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Shall we take bets on when tRump will change his VP?? or will he stay with AKA, whatever his name will be?? (Original Post) a kennedy Jul 2024 OP
That's a good question....will his ego let him admit he made a mistake? sboatcar Jul 2024 #1
Dems should torch him if he makes a change Renew Deal Jul 2024 #2
CF#45 will BLAME his sons.... ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2024 #10
That's what I think too, he always needs someone to throw under the bus sboatcar Jul 2024 #16
Well, the slimy slithering fat ass is as slippery as they get and always has an alibi. KPN Jul 2024 #11
Ask Peter Thiel -- if he tells Vance to drop out, he will obamanut2012 Jul 2024 #3
I'm not sure which would be the biggest loser....Trump for dumping his VP walkingman Jul 2024 #4
Vance is backed by money... FarPoint Jul 2024 #5
I doubt it. TFG loves firing people, but his sons Beavis and Butthead chose JD, Ocelot II Jul 2024 #6
I call the sons Uday and Qusay. yellowcanine Jul 2024 #12
Ha! Ocelot II Jul 2024 #15
Polymarket betters at 13% servermsh Jul 2024 #7
If it happens, it will be during convention when kamala is nominated getagrip_already Jul 2024 #8
You're right! Bobstandard Jul 2024 #13
Haley would be nuts to accept it now. yellowcanine Jul 2024 #9
What is the mechanism to do that? TexLaProgressive Jul 2024 #14
McGovern dropped Eagleton 2 weeks after the Dem convention in 1972 Ocelot II Jul 2024 #17
Reading this it's pretty messy TexLaProgressive Jul 2024 #20
It looked like CNN was already heading down this road ScratchCat Jul 2024 #18
Denial in elections Johnny2X2X Jul 2024 #19

sboatcar

(866 posts)
1. That's a good question....will his ego let him admit he made a mistake?
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 10:57 AM
Jul 2024

He seems like the type that will go down with the ship rather than admit he made a mistake with such an important decision.

Renew Deal

(85,349 posts)
2. Dems should torch him if he makes a change
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 10:58 AM
Jul 2024

Everyone associated with him quits, gets fired, or ends up in prison. Nothing ever changes and it's time we end Trumps political career and get him out of our lives once and for all.

KPN

(17,509 posts)
11. Well, the slimy slithering fat ass is as slippery as they get and always has an alibi.
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:10 AM
Jul 2024

JDV might just go away on his own, after TSF gives him an offer he can't refuse?

obamanut2012

(29,511 posts)
3. Ask Peter Thiel -- if he tells Vance to drop out, he will
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 10:59 AM
Jul 2024

Because Vance has to drop out, he cannot be dropped.

walkingman

(11,152 posts)
4. I'm not sure which would be the biggest loser....Trump for dumping his VP
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:00 AM
Jul 2024

Last edited Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:34 AM - Edit history (1)

after the grandiose announcement or Haley for accepting it if asked.

These folks are clearly mentally challenged.

FarPoint

(14,938 posts)
5. Vance is backed by money...
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:00 AM
Jul 2024

I forget the name of his $$$ buddy...anyways, tRump is dead weight and Vance will stay because they want Vance to sit in WH...tRump will be forced out even if elected

Ocelot II

(131,217 posts)
6. I doubt it. TFG loves firing people, but his sons Beavis and Butthead chose JD,
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:01 AM
Jul 2024

so that would make it even harder for him to admit he made a mistake. Anyhow, many of Vance's qualities that we find weird and repulsive are considered virtues in Trumpworld. He's arrogant, misogynistic, hateful, and wears makeup. He's perfect.

Ocelot II

(131,217 posts)
15. Ha!
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:25 AM
Jul 2024

They're sort of caricatures of Uday and Qusay, which makes them meaner, crazier versions of Beavis and Butthead.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
8. If it happens, it will be during convention when kamala is nominated
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:04 AM
Jul 2024

Just steal thunder.

It would just be a simple announcement, that he has lost the faith of tsf and the party, and he is doing it for the good of the country.

Tsf will then choose either a hard core magat or ivanka. Maybe flynn.

IF. Not saying it will happen.

Bobstandard

(2,373 posts)
13. You're right!
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:15 AM
Jul 2024
It would just be a simple announcement, that he has lost the faith of tsf and the party, and he is doing it for the good of the country.


If JD bails yours is the framing they’ll use, the ‘ol good-of-the-country trope.They’re that shameless.

yellowcanine

(36,826 posts)
9. Haley would be nuts to accept it now.
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:08 AM
Jul 2024

I don't see any upside for her - right now she will at least retain some support from the anti Trump wing of the party and Trumpers would find a way to blame her for a Trump loss.

TexLaProgressive

(12,785 posts)
14. What is the mechanism to do that?
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:17 AM
Jul 2024

My understanding is that tRump and Vance are locked in, only death, extreme illness or injury can remove them from the ballot now.

This was the beauty of Joe waiting until they were locked in before dropping out of the race. tRump is stuck with his choice.

If there's a way to drop Vance from the ticket, educate me.

Ocelot II

(131,217 posts)
17. McGovern dropped Eagleton 2 weeks after the Dem convention in 1972
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:28 AM
Jul 2024

and the ticket had been officially nominated. Technically, Eagleton withdrew, he wasn't removed involuntarily. I don't know what the party's rules about such things were at that time, but nobody challenged it.

ScratchCat

(2,753 posts)
18. It looked like CNN was already heading down this road
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:31 AM
Jul 2024

Yesterday with their Jake Tapper 20 minute Nikki Haley interview(I mean, who cares what she thinks, right? unless you have some agenda). It would be hilarious if not so transparent and sad.

Johnny2X2X

(24,434 posts)
19. Denial in elections
Fri Jul 26, 2024, 11:44 AM
Jul 2024

If your party is in denial, they are losing, and the longer they stay in denial, the more assured they will be to lose.

Doesn't mean you can't stay positive or be rah rah, but there must be a sober acceptance of the facts to have a chance to change the momentum. Vance is a disaster for the GOP, he brought nothing to the ticket even under the best circumstances. And now, with Harris he brings even less. He's a liability and will drag Trump down.

And another bit of denial I am seeing from Trump's side now too is the polls narrative they're pushing. 'We expect the excitement of the Harris nomination will put her up in the polls, but that will even out before the election." Harris is probably at her low point polling right now. She's got a natural boost coming as she gets out there more. Every show will want her on. Her every move will be followed and covered. Plus she's going to get the VP boost Trump didn't get when she picks one. And the late Democratic Convention is going to boost her further. So basically, the next month solid she will see a big boost in the polls. Then the GOP will go full poll truther on us.

I don't think people are accounting fully for the millions of voters who were begging for any choice that wasn't Biden or Trump. Those people got one and I think they'll accept it and stick with it. Bill Maher should be interesting this weekend.

All that being said, it has been Dems that were in denial before the last week. Biden was getting beat clearly and there was no path left to victory. It was Dems that were poll truthers. Now I still think the polls are liely off in favor of Trump, but it's not a massive error of the several points it would have taken for Biden to have a chance.

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