Did Netanyahu promise Trump not to end the war before

[Funtatlaguy]

the American election when they just met at Mar-A-Lago?
That certainly wouldn’t surprise me since Bibi would rather Trump win.
And a ceasefire/hostage release before November would be good for Harris.

[onecaliberal]

1. Safe bet.

[highplainsdem]

28. I agree.

[MaryMagdaline]

2. You know that he did. And for those who think there's no difference

in the candidates??! This is a wake up call. Thirty more people died today when a ceasefire was possible.

[Wounded Bear]

3. He wouldn't be the first repub to make such a deal...

[debm55]

5. Yes, that was done to Carter.

[Wounded Bear]

7. Yep. Nixon did it in Nam, Reagan in the Iran Hostage crisis...

bunch of traitors.

[YodaMom2]

13. And what else did they all have in common?

A big, fat R after their names. It may have started with Nixon, but it sure didn’t take long for the rot to spread through the party (at least, through the electeds and their minions.)

[GPV]

8. I remember that. Just an awful thing to do.

[gopiscrap]

29. and Humphrey

[BComplex]

9. I'm thinking of Iran-Contra, too, Wounded Bear. Republicans have ALWAYS been assholes.

It's their nature to put themselves over the country. And I'd bet money that the pro-Palestinian protesters don't understand that, under a trump presidency, there will be a new trump tower in the West Bank. He looks at the entire area as a real estate development. There will be no cease fire under a trump/netanyahu alliance.

[thomski64]

10. ...Reagan Iran hostages delay..

Bibi and drumpf Putin bitches..
"a vipers brood that should go
beyond circumcision.."
Saint Paul

[FBaggins]

4. He wouldn't have to... and that cuts both ways anyhow

If he prefers Trump - he knows how to help make that happen.

[Ocelot II]

6. Like Nixon's sabotage of Johnson's Vietnam peace talks

using Anna Chennault as a secret back channel, or how Reagan engineered the release of the hostages in Iran after the election to screw Carter? Like that? More of that sort of GOP fuckery wouldn't surprise me in the least.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

11. It will leak out and the Harris campaign will jump on it.

Once elected, the DOJ will get him on Logan Act violations.

[TBF]

12. He and Trump certainly have a lot in common -

But I think Netanyahu is more concerned about keeping himself out of jail than anything else.

[Prairie_Seagull]

14. TSF should be well known for using "others" playbooks.

Not an original thought in his head.

IMO

[brush]

15. Of course he did. Even if trump wins the warmonger will want to kee the war going...

so he can stay out of jail.

[Irish_Dem]

16. This is what I think happened

Purpose of the visit.

[Sky Jewels]

17. It's not really a "war."

It's more like a one-sided decimation of a place and a people.

Also, re: the question: Is water wet?

[karynnj]

18. I think Netanyahu is motivated almost solely by his own political position.

He has 2 far right members of his government who have publicly said they will bring down the government if he commits to a ceasefire. Netanyahu's top goal is to remain PM, who would never do something like Biden did for the good of Israel. From some accounts, as many as 72 percent of Israelis want him to step down. If he does, he faces the conclusion of several corruption trials without the factor of being PM.

The other possibility is that he may have moved to agree with the Ben G'vir and Smotrich. His father was a disciple of Jabotinsky. He has occasionally spoken of a Palestinian state, only to disavow his words. Recently the Knesset passed a resolution that was against a Palestinian state.

Axios had an article, written by Barak Ravid, that spoke of how Netanyahu's comments in the US may have complicated the ceasefire work by explicitly rejecting things that were to be worked out in later phases. https://www.axios.com/2024/06/03/gaza-hostage-ceasefire-deal-netanyahu

Note Netanyahu trying to scapegoat VP Harris by saying HER comments could hurt a ceasefire. He says that any difference in US vs Israeli positions does that ignoring that Biden's position has always been different than Netanyahu's and the public statement from Harris is consistent with everything she and Biden have said.

[B.See]

46. He came to America and spoke before Congress

to divide. Like I said he would, months ago.

[karynnj]

47. Quite agree and to feed his ego

In the Congress, he knew he would be cheered and some would criticize those who did not come. I doubt there is anywhere in Israel that he could count on this response.

In addition, he thinks he makes it harder for Americans to take any nuanced opinion.

I also thinks he wants to scapegoat the Democrats for when there is no cease fire. Not in Israel, where his perfidity is known, but here.

[ChazInAz]

19. I'm still curious

About Orban's visit to Mar a Lago. Could have sworn that there was a bit in our Constitution about private citizens making treaties with foreign powers. Yet here's TCF having all of these secretive meetings with sinister leaders.

[cutroot]

20. They voted 15 times to elect McCarthy and then dumped him anyway

The same old tricks from the same old one trick pony creeps. Their theory is no matter how hard it is stuck keep pushing again and again

[joanbarnes]

21. The tRump repeatedly violates the Logan Act:

Why won't the DOJ act?

[joanbarnes]

27. ..and nothing was done about Nixon and Reagan

[chicago guy]

22. Nixon vs Carter

Nixon all over. Must be in a Republican play book

[Celerity]

36. Nixon never ran against Carter. By 1976 and 1980 (Carter's two elections for POTUS) Nixon had already resigned.

[NoMoreRepugs]

23. Start the narrative on a small website ... "Bibi and Trump conspire

to delay cease fire till after the Election” - according to sources who asked for anonymity, then use that as our source and pummel the ShitGibbon with it on social media.

Bibi was at MaraLardo, no cease fire agreed to - as long as there are threads it works. This is an F’en war for Democracy, those here who want to stay high go bake cookies - me, I’m fighting for my granddaughters future.

[KPN]

24. I hope when Kamala wins and takes office she appoints an aggressive Attorney General

and directs him/her to investigate TSF for violations of the Logan Act.

[Old Crank]

25. If so

That would be a logan act violation.
He has done that before and should be charged.

[MaryMagdaline]

26. The visuals may help Harris in Michigan. She's perceived as speaking her mind to Netanyahu.

Netanyahu then cozies up to Trump. Enough to get a few more thousand votes for us in Dearborn? Let us pray.

[rubbersole]

30. Hey, Bibi...didn't you get the memo?

"Everything tsf touches dies."

[Joinfortmill]

31. Two crooks.

[H2O Man]

32. Before

and after.

[Indyfan53]

33. Like 1968 and 1980

Nixon and Reagan fucked the Dems by pushing the conflict past the election, making deals with our adversaries.

[czarjak]

34. Hey, Bibi,

Your Boy thinks he can can be pro-Russian AND pro-Israel. Best of luck with THAT! Sucker. Pick up a New Testament and read it is Mike Johnson's advice. Huh?

[AllaN01Bear]

35. ronald ray gun did that with the hostages .

can trust em as far as i can throw em.

[surfered]

37. Vietnam, Iranian hostages redux

[global1]

38. What Bothers Me About Bibi's Meeting With Tr**p Is That It......

was scheduled after Bibi met with both first with Biden and then with Harris.

What did both Biden and Harris share with Bibi - that he later went on to tell Tr**p?

What did Tr**p learn about how Biden and Harris would approach this with Bibi?

What strategy will Tr**p now employ - now that he might have been tipped off by Bibi - how Biden and Harris would deal with this situation?

[BannonsLiver]

39. Won't matter

Most American adults have other things to worry about beyond Gaza. Fringe left antisemites aren’t going to vote for Harris anyway.

[AloeVera]

42. Geez.

It will matter to people who are being slaughtered and starved.

I can't believe I even have to say this.

[BannonsLiver]

43. Our election is the most important thing going on in the world.

[AloeVera]

45. I agree.

That's why I'm hoping for a pivot. I think it would kill two birds with one stone, and not human beings. Regardless, ignoring the slaughter for any reason is not something I'm constitutionally capable of doing.

[Bettie]

40. Netanyahu knows that if Trump is in office

he'll get US troops to help with emptying Gaza and probably the West Bank, all for the low, low price of having Trump properties in various locations (with a hearty "gratuity" as allowed by the SCOTUS to Trump himself).

[alarimer]

41. I would not put it past either one of them

Both deserve The Hague.

[onandup]

44. The end of the war is trouble for Bibi, too

Might be the only thing keeping him out of prison.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

48. The Knesset just entered the longest summer recess in history, till October 27

This will effectively keep Bibi in power until after the US electons

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