A Warning For Voting Day

[Rubyshoo]

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[oasis]

1. Post self deleted

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[mahina]

20. Hey Oasis, aloha. This op is completely untrue

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[oasis]

22. Aloha mahina

Big mahalo to you for passing that along.

[mahina]

34. Thanks brother

Hope you are well and the continent is treating you both kindly. Hawaii has changed in so many ways

[oasis]

35. Those were lovely days at "the Fishpond"

with our good friends Opihimoimoi, may he rest in peace, and Kamaaina.
Sadly, I left Hawaii in 2006 and never returned.

Hope all is well with you.

[mahina]

37. Yes! They were. Opihi had so much aloha.

Same to you!

[Traildogbob]

2. Thank you

But fuck them!!

[mahina]

36. This op is not true.

See sl8’s post below. It’s FUD

[wendyb-NC]

3. Thank you, for that

I absolutely plan to vote. I will be a Poll Observer, for at least 1 shift election day, and several before, for early voting. I will watch out for any suspicious behaviors.

[brooklynite]

4. Before you obsess about Republican cheating...

…ask yourself “how”?

Reminder that Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Arizona have Democratic Governors, Attorney’s General and Secretaries of State. Also that almost every County Board of Elections are bipartisan.

As the saying goes, exercise proper caution…

[GiqueCee]

21. None of that means...

... that they won't try. Republicans are fundamentally dishonest people, otherwise they wouldn't be Republicans.
Remember that John Roberts and John Bolton were among the so-called "Brooks Brothers Revolt" that stopped the counting of "hanging chads" in a Florida precinct even before the corrupt Rehnquist Court anointed Dubya 24 years ago. Look where Roberts is now, and Bolton is still running around loose.

[brooklynite]

25. Florida (Republican SOS) had already certified the election at that point...

[ZonkerHarris]

27. Those local boards may be bipartisan, but we have already seen examples where the Republicans on those boards

Refuse to certify elections during the primaries.

[brooklynite]

28. In which case, Democratic State officials will step in.

[aggiesal]

30. This would usually happen in ...

high (R) precincts.
Why? Well because it a high (R) precinct.
Knock off a dozen votes from Non-Trump voters, in a high (R) precinct, who's going to notice a 77%-23% (R) win over a 75%-25% (R) win?

[brooklynite]

39. Hiw are you "kicking off. A dozen votes from Non-Trump voters.

The registrations aren’t managed by the precinct. They’re managed by the BiPartisan County Election Bord. Nd the precinct is watch by Republican and Democratic officials and poll-watchers.

[aggiesal]

40. This is not kicking off voters from voter rolls or invalidating your registration form, ...

this is invalidating ballots on election day.

If you go and vote at your precinct, next to your name is your party affiliation.
If a poll worker is a registered (R) & notices the (D) next to your name, when they hand you the ballot, a simple ink mark, like a slash, would invalidate your ballot.
Most people might not notice that slash or asterisk ✳️, on their ballot, and just vote with that ballot. Precinct workers are trained to look for any writing on the ballot and could invalidate that ballot.

[brooklynite]

41. And the Democratic poll worker would do nothing?

Ditto the Democratic poll watcher?

Add to which the ballot scanner would reject the ballot and you’d request a new one.

That’s a lot of work for low likelihood of success.

[aggiesal]

42. If they notice it, sure ...

The chances of this happening is low, but it still could happen.
There are not Poll Watchers at all precincts. Here in SD County there are close to 2000 voting precincts.

You have to understand, the (R) party went full bore into recruiting people as Precinct workers, Precinct Captains and Poll Watchers. All to minimize the (D) vote. They were systematic in recruiting.
They will challenge everything they could possibly challenge.

Republicans slowly rev up poll monitoring operation ahead of election, but questions remain about its scope.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/republicans-poll-monitoring-operation-rcna154763

[brooklynite]

43. I've work as an election Judge, poll watcher and voter protection observers in multiple States.

I’m not worried about the Harris campaign’s preparation or the ethics of most election workers.

[aggiesal]

44. The key word is ''most''. ...

I've worked as a poll watcher.
Poll Watchers don't have that much authority.
But (R)'s seem to think Poll Watchers can intimidate & harrass voters.
I think they will be surprised when they find out, they can do much of anything.

[underpants]

5. ✅

[MagickMuffin]

6. The only marking should be the signature of the presiding judge

People just need to be extremely cautious when receiving ballot, filling out ballot, clarifying you voted for your candidates and delivering the ballot to the tabulators.


Be observant is a requirement for voting as well as every day life.


Be Observant!

[ananda]

7. Yes, this is critical!

We need lots of well trained people to watch
the polls and make sure people are on the
rolls and able to get to the polls.

[sl8]

8. This is false and you should delete it.

Snopes:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/poll-workers-ballots-invalidated/

And many others, including a least a couple of state representatives.

WaPo uses it as an example in their article about teaching kids how to spot misinformation.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2020/10/22/teaching-kids-spot-misinformation-social-media-whether-enough-is-being-done-get-rid-it/

[DENVERPOPS]

23. Whether this is true or not

it is profoundly PATHETIC that there is so much tampering with elections, that we even have to think about it happening....

[sl8]

26. Absolutely.

To me, that makes it all the more important to not spread misinformation about it. Not only does it dilute the real information, do it enough and people don't know who or what to believe.

[DeepWinter]

46. Thank you

Got some "Bothsiderisims" going on here. Because Republicans continually accuse Democrats of cheating.

Every legitimate third party investigation I've looked into has shown there is a little. But very little. And mostly at local elections. Your energy is far better spent turning out the vote rather than looking for cheats.

[Ms. Toad]

9. Every jurisdiction I'm aware of (more than half of the country), and any I've worked in as an Ohio observer

(A Republican county, a mixed county, and a Democratic county) are required to pair election workers (One Republican, one Democrat) working side by side precisely to prevent monkey business. And Democratic observers are trained to watch for a single worker interacting with a voter in any circumstance in which the worker can see the ballot, as well as anything a worker could do that would invalidate a ballot.

That said, none of the election workers I have ever interacted with (the three counties in Ohio (the Boards, higher up workers, as well as workers hired for election day) or the higher up officials in counties/states across the country) have ever had any interest other than running a fair election.

As to the specific comment, once a ballot is read it can't be unread - there is no way to separate the ballot after the fact. A mark on the ballot would only invalidate it if it is made in the area of the timing marks or the voting area. Both would cause the machine to reject the ballot and require either an override (if marked in the voting area and it resulted in an overvote) or would require a new ballot (if the marks were in the timing area, causing the ballot to be unreadable entirely).

So it's good to pay attention - always. That's why the Democrats have had observers in as many counties as we can place them. But this specific concern is not (as stated) a concern beyond checking to make sure your ballot is actually read (and you don't override an error message unless you deliberately over- or under-voted).

[mahatmakanejeeves]

16. Here in 'Ginny, a scanner looks over my completed ballot

for problems before it is accepted.

[Ms. Toad]

24. They are all designed that way.

The ballot has to be readable (marks capable of being interpreted) or it won't be accepted in any jurisdiction/with any machine that I'm familiar with.

Beyond that, jurisdictions can generally program their machines to kick out ballots for non-votes, under-votes, and over-votes. Most jurisdictions program their machines to kick out over-votes (since voting for more candidates than permitted invalidates the vote for that office entirely). Most don't program their machines to kick out non-votes (since it is a pretty regular occurrence for a voter to choose not to vote at all on a particular race/issue). The practice is less universal for under-votes - some program them to kick them out just to be sure (for example) that a voter who only voted for one candidate knew they were permitted to vote for two candidates. Others don't - for the same reason that they don't generally program them to kick out non-votes - it requires way too many ballots to be checked and overridden by the voters in order to be counted.

[PortTack]

10. Great info....we need to spread this far and wide!

[birdographer]

29. No, because it is false and was started in 2020

Read all the comments here and follow the Snopes link.

[surfered]

11. His incentive: to stay out of jail,

[AllaN01Bear]

12. thanks . any ballot tampering for that matter .

[bucolic_frolic]

13. Expect hundreds of election day lawsuits

[Fla Dem]

14. Never new that and I've been voting since the late 1960's!

[sl8]

15. It's not true. nt

[Fla Dem]

31. Thanks, didn't see your post above.

[sl8]

32. De nada.

[SCantiGOP]

17. This is not true, and makes this site look foolish to post it

Please delete, and at least check before posting to make sure you aren't passing on false statements.

[mahina]

18. This is false and you should delete it.

As sl8 said.

File under garbage and filling the zone with crap

[IronLionZion]

19. It's a good idea for our side to vote early

I would expect high turnout and long lines at many blue areas this year

[TBF]

33. I'm in Texas & always vote early. I can pull the raw sheets on the clerk's website to make

sure they've counted my vote. My name & address will be listed on the spreadsheet for that particular day.

[Scrivener7]

38. This is misinformation, and you still haven't deleted it.

[B.See]

45. While Snopes has determined the story included in the op to be false

The introductory statement (by one 'Brad' in the provided link) is TRUE. Trump and the Republicans ARE going to cheat (or at least try) in MANY ways to change voter outcomes in their favor, in their quest to take over the country, establish Trump as its DICTATOR and end democracy itself via the plans outlined in Trump's Agenda 47, Trump's Project 2025, and the RNC party platform.

And YES, we should make ourselves aware of what they're planning, and familiarize ourselves with voting laws.

They are planning on mobilizing so-called "poll watchers" and ordinary voters, who Trump himself incites to "watch the vote" and have already put into place other methods and laws to invalidate our votes.

One example being that which I posted about only yesterday, a law passed in Georgia (SB189) which allows anyone (even not necessarily from Georgia) to challenge the legitimacy of ANY number of voters, any number of times, and with little requirement for substantive proof. Allowing for the removal or suspension of voting eligibility as little as 45 days before an election.

New Georgia law makes voter intimidation easier, critics say; affects Black voters most - USA Today via Yahoo

In yesterday's post, I also posted THIS:

Big Lie-Pilled Officials Are Now In Charge Of Election Admin In Counties Across The U.S. - TPM – Talking Points Memo


So yes, we SHOULD very much be wary and be careful of all efforts at intimidation and obstructing our RIGHT TO VOTE. We all should check now and OFTEN, right up to the election, on our eligibility (voting status) to vote, at VOTE.GOV or at each of our local voting registrars.

[Rubyshoo]

50. Plus... If ANYBODY Writes ANYTHING On MY BALLOT before handing It To Me, I Will Throw A Fit

Keep YOUR INK off of MY BALLOT.

[Wounded Bear]

47. Damn, I love our all mail-in voting system here in WA...nt

[GenThePerservering]

48. Yes! I just completed my ballot in the comfort of my own home...

using the voter's guide, etc., to check several of the candidates' positions, able to read and study. The guide even has helpful definitions of various offices and responsibilities. Now I'll take the ballot down the hill and drop it into the fortress-like ballot collection box next to city hall when I go to the gym.

It's a good system, and one that's difficult to fraud also given the tight security around ballot collection.

[applegrove]

49. That is brutal.

[flying_wahini]

51. Not true in Texas. Official ballots are numbered and counted and initialed by the Poll leader.

They are invalid if they aren’t.

[Cosmocat]

52. If this would occur the machine

Would notify you when you put it in to scan.

Said another way, it "reads" every ballot before it scans it, and you are notified of any vote irregularities, and given a choice to take your ballot back (and have them give you a new one) or have it accepted.

[orthoclad]

53. Context?

There are an awful lot of blank posts here lately, just links to Musk.

It would be courteous to supply some context. A few lines of text, or a copy and paste. It's not hard.

I won't monetize Musk.