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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsToyota to Replace Every Single Engine in 100,000 Tundra Pickups and Lexus SUVs
There are safety recalls, and then there are really time-consuming, expensive safety recalls. Toyota is experiencing the latter, having discovered earlier this year a defect in its twin-turbocharged V-6 truck engines that power the Tundra pickup truck as well as Lexus's LX luxury SUVsat least, those 2022 to 2023 model-year variants built between November 2021 and February 2023 (or the same model years built between July 2021 and November 2022 for the LX). The issue can cause the engine stall unexpectedly; per Toyota's NHTSA recall notices to dealers:
"There is a possibility that certain machining debris may not have been cleared from the engine when it was produced. In the involved vehicles, this can lead to potential engine knocking, engine rough running, engine no start and/or a loss of motive power. A loss of motive power while driving at higher speeds can increase the risk of a crash."
When Toyota submitted documentation of the issue to NHTSA (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) in May 2024, it noted that a fix for the 102,092 potentially affected vehicles was still being determined. At the time, Toyota also estimated that 1 percent of those vehicles might actually suffer from the defect, but that was due to a quirk in NHTSA's filing requirements. As the company notes in the filing, it only estimated a 1-percent failure rate because it in fact was "unable to estimate the percentage of the involved vehicles to actually contain the defect described in Section 5. However, as the NHTSA manufacturer portal requires an integer value be entered, Toyota has entered the value 1 in response to this question in the portal. For the purpose of this report, '1' means 'unknown'."
Two months later, it seems Toyota arrived no closer to a solid estimate of how many Tundras and LX models are potentially impacted by the machining debris issue, so it's decided to remedy the problem by replacing every potentially affected engine, per reporting by Automotive News. (We've reached out to Toyota for confirmation that this is, in fact, the fix, and will update this piece when we hear back.) Toyota notes that this remedy applies only (at least so far) to the non-hybrid versions of its V35A twin-turbocharged 3.4-liter V-6 engines; the hybrid variants (available in the Tundra) can still provide motive power in the event of an engine failure, thanks to their electric motors.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/toyota-to-replace-every-single-engine-in-100-000-tundra-pickups-and-lexus-suvs/ar-BB1qGvRx
mitch96
(15,802 posts)doing the right thing...
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bucolic_frolic
(55,136 posts)Assumption that engine plus dealer reimbursement will be about 10 grand. If I owned one I'd wonder if everything will be done just right.
Mosby
(19,491 posts)Give the dealer mechanics time to work thru the little details. They also are going to have to manufacture most of the replacement engines, which might be tricky given how often parts are changed/upgraded.
pecosbob
(8,386 posts)Raftergirl
(1,856 posts)at least not yet. I havent gotten anything from Lexus and they are excellent about notifying customers of any issue.
Chuuku Davis
(607 posts)You have an Inline 4, an I4.
Raftergirl
(1,856 posts)dsc
(53,397 posts)an inline means that the cylinders are in a line so x x x x vs a v where they look like a v (without the center)
so
x x
x x
Raftergirl
(1,856 posts)WarGamer
(18,613 posts)Arthur_Frain
(2,355 posts)Never selling it either. IMHO we passed peak automotive here in the states some time ago. Aesthetically sometime in the 70s, reliability wise somewhere in the early 2000s. These days, everything looks the same, and you see silver painted plastic instead of chromed metal.
WarGamer
(18,613 posts)Initech
(108,783 posts)dalton99a
(94,115 posts)JCMach1
(29,202 posts)At this point. Their quality is pretty much even with all major manufacturers at this point.
RubyRose
(319 posts)them recently also?
hunter
(40,690 posts)... not in some dealer's busy and chaotic shop.
rictofen
(267 posts)It might've required some wireless software updates.
Angleae
(4,801 posts)Xolodno
(7,350 posts)I used to pull out engines on old vehicles with my dad when the engine needed to be rebuilt. Very labor intensive and takes awhile. My brother pulled out the engine on his older Dodge Hemi Truck when he hit 500k miles, that was like four years ago and he's just turned it into a hobby and slowly putting it back together. Engine goes out on a "newer" vehicle, I'd would just get another vehicle.