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(607 posts)I cant believe they suspended him for showing an ear. It is wrong.
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)He had on a bandaid yesterday.
Brenda
(2,087 posts)The FBI report is just weird limiting it to bullet or bullet shrapnel instead of plastic, wood, other metal shrapnel from the bullet hitting something else before the shrapnel hit Chump.
What DID the bullet hit, FBI, IF it was bullet fragment? Bullets don't just fall apart.
I don't see any wound or aftermath of even a bump from something much less a cut. Bruising lasts a long time on old body parts.
I still have bruises from taking blood thinner shots after my surgery and they ran out a month ago. I'm 65.
iluvtennis
(21,526 posts)Orrex
(67,390 posts)They apparently haven't recovered the projectile, and it also seems apparent that Trump hasn't released any medical assessment of his "bullet" wound, so how can the FBI say with confidence that a bullet caused it.
riversedge
(81,525 posts)Rebl2
(17,925 posts)X would suspend him.
allegorical oracle
(6,584 posts)wound, I'll accept his judgement.
Never did think the wound was a big thing -- there wasn't that much bleeding. Head wounds of any sort usually bleed like crazy. Especially with ears. Blood vessels are very near the surface in the ears of all mammals because they serve as a bodily cooling mechanism. If you wonder whether your dog or cat has a fever, feel their ears.
brewens
(15,359 posts)instead of that stupid gauze pad. Usually, the bandage is around the head to hold gauze in place for a serious ear wound.
He had what most likely could have been covered by a band-aid. If he had a growth removed there, he probably would have worn a flesh-colored bandage we couldn't even see.
allegorical oracle
(6,584 posts)after the injury don't display heavy bleeding. A trickle has come from the outer ear area and a second trickle appears from perhaps behind the ear, dripping from gravity. When he was pushed face-down by the SService, the blood dripped towards the front of his face and lips. It seems to be a minor grazing wound.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,486 posts)rectangular, stiff, non-contouring gauze pad was so obviously unnecessary & attention seeking. Another example of how his cult cannot see the blatant dishonestly that is the essence of Trump.
Skittles
(172,835 posts)no INDEED
Wingus Dingus
(9,173 posts)Dave Bowman
(7,451 posts)Oops, at first I misread one of these two words.
Attilatheblond
(9,223 posts)Maybe he was injured by a vanity device that busted loose when the Secret Service knocked him down? Just... you know... sorta wondering
Perhaps a member of his detail has a rough ring or watch band? It couldn't have been much of a scratch cuz someone enlarge the photo and there was NO sign of even a scab.
allegorical oracle
(6,584 posts)CentralMass
(16,994 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,292 posts)ArkansasDemocrat1
(3,213 posts)LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,292 posts)Will this asshole ever die? I'd piss on his grave, but I hate to stand in lines.
central scrutinizer
(12,655 posts)Would have given a drunken Ronny Jackson a rusty scalpel, bit down on a rawhide chew toy, and said, make me into a martyr.
Pinback
(13,648 posts)Just a week ago that was the most hurt ear youve ever seen! (Soon to come from the MAGAloons if its not out there already.)
livetohike
(24,417 posts)would make an interesting front page story. Why arent they shouting at him for answers?
senseandsensibility
(25,503 posts)They've made that very clear.
alterfurz
(2,682 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 28, 2024, 08:28 AM - Edit history (1)
...from The Onion, America's Finest News Source: "Passersby were amazed at the unusually large amounts of blood..."
Dave Bowman
(7,451 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)Dave Bowman
(7,451 posts)Orrex
(67,390 posts)MFM008
(20,042 posts)Be bruising. Old people bruise and it lasts forever. I'm still bruised from surgery 2 months ago.
Jilly_in_VA
(14,624 posts)I get massive bruises from just banging my arms and legs on things at the shelter! Of course I'm on Plavix and baby aspirin, but even before that I did. So spare us the histrionics, Donny!
Orrex
(67,390 posts)As soon as the pics were released, it seemed obvious to me that either he didn't actually know that he was in danger, or that he knew that he wasn't actually in danger.
Whatever else can be said about the man, he is a coward through and through. He is not the type to fight his way above his contingent of Secret Service agents in order to issue a brave rallying cry.
MerryBlooms
(12,400 posts)Unbitten
(17 posts)Turns out the photo is from 2022.
Lucid Dreamer
(589 posts)Unbitten
(17 posts)Thanks! Ive read the site forever, but never got a profile. Im glad I finally did!
Scrivener7
(60,065 posts)Farmer-Rick
(12,786 posts)Then a lot of this conjecture would disappear.
My theory, he was on blood thinners, and his ear was slightly grazed, it would account for a lot of blood.
It's only been 2 weeks and it looks like it's all healed up. My daughters very sterile ear piercing took much longer to heal.....weird.
Brenda
(2,087 posts)As I've gotten older I notice bruises (from bumping into a cabinet or some such, NOT being hit by a bullet) happen easier and last longer. And I am much younger than Chump.
If anything it brings into question what the big fucking white bandage was for? So everyone would imagine he had half his ear blown away? Still gushing blood days later? Or maybe a prop just in time for his convention? Ahhh the sympathy vote, how heroic.
Clouds Passing
(8,189 posts)JoseBalow
(9,738 posts)
twodogsbarking
(19,326 posts)BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)avoid at all costs.
Musk has his nose up The Felon's butt.
NoMoreRepugs
(12,227 posts)Farmer-Rick
(12,786 posts)Let me get my shoes. How did they come off? Was he in stocking feet at the podium? Why didn't the media report on that?
Let Kamala or Biden take their shoes off and it would be front page news at the NYT with them questioning their fitness for the presidency
Skittles
(172,835 posts)that's why he asked for their immediate return - can't have people seeing the LIFTS
JoseBalow
(9,738 posts)Skittles
(172,835 posts)his narcissism is off the charts
dchill
(42,660 posts)...and I saw no damage.
NonPC
(405 posts)I looked for the photo in question, and AP says the online conspiracy theory is using a photo of Trump from 2 years ago. Did they pull the photo?
Rob H.
(5,913 posts)This is the photo VOA used, snd its the same shot:

Easterncedar
(6,471 posts)Doctors, big men, big doctors are always coming up to him with tears in their eyes saying Sir, how do you do it?
2naSalit
(103,806 posts)surfered
(14,261 posts)Then after Trump associates called for him to resign, the FBI issues a press release saying it was a bullet?
Why is this so damn important to them?
Skittles
(172,835 posts)why won't they?
onenote
(46,227 posts)A bullet fragment is "shrapnel" according to the Oxford English Dictionary?
I get why repubs are claiming the FBI changed its position, but I don't get why so many here are agreeing with the repubs.
rubbersole
(11,275 posts)..from bronzer and AquaNet.
Mr. Scorpio
(73,778 posts)Probably would have taken off half his face. He was never struck by a round.
SlimJimmy
(3,251 posts)Please get your facts straight before putting out information that could be shared and help to spread conspiracy theories. DU is better than that.
sarisataka
(22,829 posts)AKA the "Obliterator". It is because of the Geneva Conventions. The weapon is too powerful to be used on the battlefield.
Rounds fired from an AR-15 can cause disfiguring injuries even with a near miss. There have been reports from hunters of animals being nearly completely disintegrated when hit by rounds fired from them.
The M-16 and AR-15 fire the same rounds (5.56/.223). Terminal ballisitcs are identical (given comparable setup).
Additionally, this round is arguably the least powerful among medium game projectiles.
sarisataka
(22,829 posts)A dump truck full.
I have twenty years experience with the M-16 and have seen first hand what it can (and can't) do. Since I have retired the .223 is my preferred varmint round fired out of a Ruger Mark II bolt action. Good for prairie dogs to coyotes.
tusk
(8 posts)I love shooting .223...
I mostly shot turtles or beavers, but have taken a few deer with my Mossberg MVP Scout...
liberalla
(11,217 posts)calimary
(90,761 posts)I know next to nothing about guns of any sort, so I can't add any more to this discussion.
DiamondShark
(1,167 posts)5.56/.223 are not acceptable for deer hunting, but .300BLK and 7.62 are fine for deer but not elk.
tusk
(8 posts)AL & MS are 2 of them...
sarisataka
(22,829 posts)The smallest rifle, I have for deer is a .243. But I have yet to actually fire it at a deer, I get lazy about having to dress it out and end up taking a picture.
SlimJimmy
(3,251 posts)The only difference between the AR and the 16 is the method of fire. Other than that, they a nearly the same. Typically though, the AR uses .223 as a round.
stopdiggin
(15,636 posts)a 'round' has to meet something with significant resistance before those kind of things happen. Clipping a small portion of ear (or a leaf, or blade of grass, etc., etc.) ... Isn't going to produce all that you claim.
Lucid Dreamer
(589 posts)I was going to pare down a big long essay about terminal ballistics as related to the .223 "massive damage" myths related to "reports" of incidents of hearts exploding from fingertip hits. They aren't true.
no_hypocrisy
(55,369 posts)lindysalsagal
(22,996 posts)GreenWave
(12,795 posts)Joinfortmill
(21,668 posts)Botany
(77,850 posts)How did his ear after being hit by a high .223 round which is an ultra high velocity round
heal so quickly? A wound let alone a bullet wound doesnt heal that quickly.
Those rounds are made to tumble after they hit something to cause maximum tissue
damage so the enemy dies of trauma and loss of blood. I dont know if an ear is
structure enough to cause the bullet to tumble.
How did the shooter get up onto the roof of a building with a direct line of sight of
Trump and stay up there?
I might be very wrong but something just doesnt pass my smell test.
sarisataka
(22,829 posts)In something other than twitter? I have learned to be skeptical.
egduj
(881 posts)Just from two years ago.
So we went from a teleprompter, and not a bullet, took a chunk out of his ear, to the day never happened.
stopdiggin
(15,636 posts)Tommy Carcetti
(44,585 posts)stopdiggin
(15,636 posts)Also want to point out that some people are pointing to this and saying there was no injury period. Again, WRONG!
Tommy Carcetti
(44,585 posts)sarisataka
(22,829 posts)Old photos passed off as new on twitter. I am simply wondering where the original was published. We have some saying it was taken in 2022.
Tommy Carcetti
(44,585 posts)And Doug Mills is the Times photographer assigned to cover the Trump campaign.
So yeah, it was today.
sarisataka
(22,829 posts)Unfortunately I am just on my phone and can't do an image search
druidity33
(6,933 posts)if you zoom in and look at the very top of his ear. A small slightly discolored divot.
Kid Berwyn
(25,073 posts)First Amendment beats Censorship every time.
NAZIs just hate the truth.
spanone
(142,052 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 27, 2024, 08:17 PM - Edit history (1)
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)Putin.
Beartracks
(14,653 posts)Apparently, relying on data, truth and science is no longer part of the "town square" discussion that Elon once claimed to foster at X.
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bucolic_frolic
(55,802 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(181,996 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(181,996 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)No visible damage.
Meowmee
(9,212 posts)That is what happens there. The most attacked accounts are usually by far pro Israel accounts. Many of those have been suspended erroneously and have been reinstated. Even my account was attacked for no reason and it is protected. I still have hundreds of followers there and some friends due to a lovely Jewish Iranian friend. Twitter / X is a bit nuts but I can get accurate immediate worldwide news there that I cant get anywhere else.
As far as his ear goes I always had my doubts and thought that the injuries were not severe enough for a direct hit from a bullet. But he will never release any med records assuming they would show what happened.
ashredux
(2,956 posts)Mountainguy
(2,145 posts)you can see a flesh colored bandage when you zoom in. Clearly something wrapped around his upper ear.
Trump got shot by a republican who was looking for notoriety for shooting anyone famous he could. That's the beginning and the end of it.
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