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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(15,232 posts)
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 07:42 AM Jul 2024

Project 2025 plan calls for demolition of NOAA and National Weather Service

Among its many sweeping calls for change in American government, a conservative platform document known as Project 2025 urges the demolition of some of the nation’s most dependable resources for tracking weather, combating climate change and protecting the public from environmental hazards.

“Break up NOAA,” the document says, referring to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and its six main offices, including the 154-year-old National Weather Service.

“Together, these form a colossal operation that has become one of the main drivers of the climate change alarm industry and, as such, is harmful to future U.S. prosperity,” the document says.

The call to dismantle a vital federal department has raised the hackles of experts who say NOAA provides not only important free data, such as weather forecasts and satellite observations, but also life-saving information about hurricanes, heat waves, atmospheric rivers and other extreme events — many of which have been shown, through myriad studies, to be worsening due to global warming.

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“This industry’s mission emphasis on prediction and management seems designed around the fatal conceit of planning for the unplannable,” the document says. “That is not to say NOAA is useless, but its current organization corrupts its useful functions. It should be broken up and downsized.”

https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2024-07-28/project-2025-targets-noaa-and-national-weather-service

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Project 2025 plan calls for demolition of NOAA and National Weather Service (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd Jul 2024 OP
Stick head in sand bucolic_frolic Jul 2024 #1
That should work out well Island Blue Jul 2024 #2
They've wanted to privatize NOAA/NWS for years - since the Bush admin Dennis Donovan Jul 2024 #3
AccuWeather Diraven Jul 2024 #4
Yep. Sen. Santorum underpants Jul 2024 #6
AccuWeather? Disaffected Jul 2024 #7
Santorum tried to privatize weather when he was a Senator underpants Jul 2024 #5

Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
3. They've wanted to privatize NOAA/NWS for years - since the Bush admin
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 07:57 AM
Jul 2024

They're still mad about Alabama not being in the cone.

Diraven

(1,959 posts)
4. AccuWeather
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 08:26 AM
Jul 2024

The real reason for this is these public agencies compete with the for profit business of AccuWeather, whose owner Joel Myers has been pushing to have them shut down or at least forced to give all their data to AccuWeather instead of directly to the public since 2005, so they can have a monopoly on weather forecasting in the US.

Disaffected

(6,635 posts)
7. AccuWeather?
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 10:48 AM
Jul 2024

These characters provide temperature, cloud cover and precipitation forecasts for three months in advance (at least for my area) which is non-sensical.

WTH needs an outfit like that to replace national weather services??

underpants

(197,470 posts)
5. Santorum tried to privatize weather when he was a Senator
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 08:27 AM
Jul 2024

in favor of Accuweather who’s owner was a big donor to him.

First of all, all the local weather on TV and weather apps all rely on NOAA which is free content.
Second, NOAA reports on climate change. A controlled system probably won’t.
Third, the US Navy relies on accurate weather forecasts worldwide for daily operations. I don’t know how much their weapons systems rely on them but they could. The Army/Marines M1 Abrams have a complete weather update at least every morning. I witnessed this with tanks in my Cav Scout unit. Wind, barometric pressure, etc affect the accuracy of the main gun and they only shoot one at a time. Reloading can be fast but once you’ve fired, everyone knows you’re there and where you are.

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