Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Desert grandma

(1,074 posts)
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 02:18 PM Jul 2024

Why I think Tim Walz is the best VP pick.

We have so many outstanding VP contenders, and thus have a very deep bench. I did not know much about Tim Walz until I heard him being interviewed on a television program. Biden/Harris won the election in 2020 against an incumbent. Joe Biden appealed to blue collar workers, labor, and came across as a straight shooter and the "kid from Scranton." Tim Walz, it seems to me, offers a similar voice as Biden in 2020. He has strong union and labor support as well as the ability to re-frame Republican talking points. He is a straight talker that appeals to younger voters too. He has been victorious in winning a Congressional seat in a rural area of Minnesota. He is likable, as was/is Biden. Another factor in his favor is his military experience as an enlisted man, and thus his strong support of veteran and military issues in Minnesota. I think we will do well with any of the choices, but the choice of Tim Walz reminds me of the winning Biden/Harris ticket in 2020. We will win in November because we are on the right side of history with the positive vision for the future.

71 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Why I think Tim Walz is the best VP pick. (Original Post) Desert grandma Jul 2024 OP
His background will make it possible for him to win over rural voters rzemanfl Jul 2024 #1
Um ... why bother with rural voters? speak easy Jul 2024 #36
Biden beat Trump due to over performing in that group crimycarny Jul 2024 #40
I can see why you say that, go for the more numerous voters, but I also like stomping tRUMP into the ground SWBTATTReg Jul 2024 #56
If rural voters thought the Dems would "bother" with them, maybe they wouldn't rzemanfl Jul 2024 #58
It would be nice to switch from East/west coast candidates. LakeArenal Jul 2024 #2
I like the best too mahina Jul 2024 #3
I just listened to a couple of his videos... LizBeth Jul 2024 #4
I think he would be great! cubbie Jul 2024 #5
I think he appeals to the midwest senseandsensibility Jul 2024 #6
He would be an amazing choice. spicysista Jul 2024 #7
I'm beginning to agree with you CanonRay Jul 2024 #8
Yep yep I really like him awesomerwb1 Jul 2024 #9
Nice Interview here with Tapper, great command of thought. OnDoutside Jul 2024 #10
This is how you respond to them love it Tribetime Jul 2024 #12
Awesome! pattyloutwo Jul 2024 #61
Yes, that was the first decent length interview I've OnDoutside Jul 2024 #66
He's my number one choice too TexasBushwhacker Jul 2024 #11
He sounds like the ideal candidate, but has anyone asked him this... FakeNoose Jul 2024 #13
is there anything about him that makes you think that? edisdead Jul 2024 #15
I don't know anything about Tim Walz, other than what is posted here FakeNoose Jul 2024 #19
If he has a 23 year old daughter, he's totally familiar with taking orders from a woman..trust me on this! BComplex Jul 2024 #30
WTF? Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #43
I know, right? Skittles Jul 2024 #69
Seeing how he has conducted his self PlutosHeart Jul 2024 #48
It certainly looks that he wants the job of VP. LisaL Jul 2024 #53
I cannot imagine that being a factor n/t Lulu KC Jul 2024 #64
WTF Skittles Jul 2024 #68
I'm coming around to this too. alarimer Jul 2024 #14
Not a fan of Shapiro PlutosHeart Jul 2024 #49
Think about how OLD he looks in a campaign now energized by switching to a more youthful candidate. nt DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #16
He's the same age as Harris. Besides young people gravitate to bold and exciting ideas. Bernie Nanjeanne Jul 2024 #17
Ya, I agree, it just doesn't blend well with our messaging and what created the enthusiasm at this time. nt DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #21
Well if Trump drops Vance we can grab him up. He's really young! Nanjeanne Jul 2024 #22
There are millions of people that have as youthful appearance as Harris, we can do better from that pool than Vance nt DontBelieveEastisEas Jul 2024 #24
David Hogg in Florida thinks he will attract young voters Tribetime Jul 2024 #46
Hahaha! BComplex Jul 2024 #32
Haha n/t Lulu KC Jul 2024 #65
He is 60, but he does look more grandpa like. irisblue Jul 2024 #20
This was from 1995 and hasn't affected his elections so if this is the worst they can find, Nanjeanne Jul 2024 #26
Oh yeah I saw the date. But RW authoritarians will go at that. irisblue Jul 2024 #27
Have you investigated what Alpha News actually is? Really shouldn't even be quoted here on DU. Nanjeanne Jul 2024 #29
Which is why in my post #26 I noted that is right leaning. I'm not willing to go into an argument with you. irisblue Jul 2024 #35
Why would I block you and I didn't think I was having an argument. I thought it was a discussion. Nanjeanne Jul 2024 #37
More info on the origin of this story from Daily Kos back in 2006 Nanjeanne Jul 2024 #33
In a still photo he looks older but in moonscape Jul 2024 #25
I'm starting to think that too. honest.abe Jul 2024 #18
He knows how to talk about gun control too. Nanjeanne Jul 2024 #23
So great! pattyloutwo Jul 2024 #62
I like Tim Waltz but we need PA. Thus Shapiro is a better pick. Demsrule86 Jul 2024 #28
I believe Tim Walz would appeal to Pennsylvania voters too crimycarny Jul 2024 #45
A dear friend since 2005 ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2024 #31
He's a good governor. Great leadership. mn9driver Jul 2024 #34
IKR? PlutosHeart Jul 2024 #50
Being a teacher elevates him in my eyes, because wingnuts hate teachers. Diamond_Dog Jul 2024 #38
When young people see PlutosHeart Jul 2024 #51
He's delightful epreic01 Jul 2024 #39
I agree crimycarny Jul 2024 #41
Same! Sky Jewels Jul 2024 #42
David Hogg really likes him & that's a strong rec in my book. TBF Jul 2024 #44
Have you seen this? "We're not gonna stay in their frame... Passages Jul 2024 #47
Agree. obnoxiousdrunk Jul 2024 #52
Is he a better pick than Brashear? I kind of like that guy. dem4decades Jul 2024 #54
Same Dunnjen Jul 2024 #59
I'm remembering Joe Lieberman, more concerned with himself looking presidential than dem4decades Jul 2024 #60
What is so attractive to me and I think will be attractive to voters is that he can dress in a suit or in Nanjeanne Jul 2024 #55
He gives us a great chance to win TheFarseer Jul 2024 #57
He is growing on me very quickly n/t Lulu KC Jul 2024 #63
when I saw his smile and heard about his school lunch program The Wandering Harper Jul 2024 #67
Fingers crossed. Maybe we'll find out today. FailureToCommunicate Aug 2024 #70
I posted Gov Walz was my choice on July 28 Desert grandma Aug 2024 #71

rzemanfl

(31,257 posts)
1. His background will make it possible for him to win over rural voters
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 02:22 PM
Jul 2024

in swing states. He doesn't Gaza war issues and is pro-labor.

speak easy

(12,595 posts)
36. Um ... why bother with rural voters?
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 04:48 PM
Jul 2024

Why not double down on women and the suburbs? There are more of them, and they are more receptive to our messenging.

crimycarny

(2,069 posts)
40. Biden beat Trump due to over performing in that group
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 05:00 PM
Jul 2024

Having grown up in the Midwest I know the type of voter Tim Walz would appeal to and those are the same voters who helped Joe Biden edge out Trump in some of those Midwest states. I think Tim Walz helps make the tent bigger.

SWBTATTReg

(26,144 posts)
56. I can see why you say that, go for the more numerous voters, but I also like stomping tRUMP into the ground
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 05:38 PM
Jul 2024

and beating him MASSIVELY. A few extra million here and there extra million votes will put him away for good, make him never to consider running again for any office (because of his incompetence, his age, his disturbing mental status since he's missing up words a lot, making up his own language that no one understands, etc. In other words, he is disturbed and his mind is shot, probably from all of the nose candy that he's snorted up his nose.

rzemanfl

(31,257 posts)
58. If rural voters thought the Dems would "bother" with them, maybe they wouldn't
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 05:49 PM
Jul 2024

vote for lying Republican assholes. The Repukes are going to try to steal this election, we need all the votes we can get.

LizBeth

(11,222 posts)
4. I just listened to a couple of his videos...
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 02:32 PM
Jul 2024

So much fun, love the guy. Was in Minneapolis last couple years and liked how he handled a handful of things but listening to him was fun. Very comfortable.

cubbie

(11 posts)
5. I think he would be great!
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 02:33 PM
Jul 2024

I live in rural western NC and he was so right about public schools being vital to rural communities. Our schools are our biggest employer here. He is interesting to listen to and such a refreshing contrast to J.D. Vance. He also smiles and laughs alot like Kamala!

senseandsensibility

(24,401 posts)
6. I think he appeals to the midwest
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 02:34 PM
Jul 2024

which is VERY important, but I am not a midwesterner and I really like his style. It's hard for me to imagine anyone who wouldn't like him. And can you imagine him against wooden, sour JD in a debate?

awesomerwb1

(5,037 posts)
9. Yep yep I really like him
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 02:55 PM
Jul 2024

Had never seen him on tv/streams so I had no idea who he was. Been watching a few of his interviews and ......I'm leaning Walz now.

If the younger voters are ok with him, he should be the one. Great speaker, funny, charismatic and fun.

pattyloutwo

(517 posts)
61. Awesome!
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 06:05 PM
Jul 2024

Thanks for posting this. I love how he frames the issues - making sure kids have breakfast and making sure women can control their bodies - what a monster! 😂

OnDoutside

(20,862 posts)
66. Yes, that was the first decent length interview I've
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 02:08 AM
Jul 2024

seen him in and I'm impressed too.

Actually I've an idea for a thread 😉

FakeNoose

(40,705 posts)
13. He sounds like the ideal candidate, but has anyone asked him this...
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 03:13 PM
Jul 2024

Is he willing to work for a woman boss? It takes a special kind of guy to be able to handle that.

The media rarely mentions this, but Joe Biden worked for a black man who was younger (and in many ways less experienced) than him. And yet PBO and Joe forged an ideal partnership and continued their friendship even to this day.

An excellent Governor such as Tim Walz still needs to accept that he would no longer be captain of the ship. He'd be taking orders from a woman, and not every guy can do that. I hope the answer is yes, but we'll see...

edisdead

(3,396 posts)
15. is there anything about him that makes you think that?
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 03:57 PM
Jul 2024

did he have
problems with Pelosi when he was in the house? Is there anything you onow of from his past that would make it seem so?

Or is it solely because he is a man?

FakeNoose

(40,705 posts)
19. I don't know anything about Tim Walz, other than what is posted here
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 04:11 PM
Jul 2024

I was hoping someone else would know the answer.

BComplex

(9,802 posts)
30. If he has a 23 year old daughter, he's totally familiar with taking orders from a woman..trust me on this!
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 04:38 PM
Jul 2024

I have one such daughter, and believe me, her dad learned early on how to take orders! ❤️ Walz can handle this easily. Call it on the job training/experience.

PlutosHeart

(1,445 posts)
48. Seeing how he has conducted his self
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 05:11 PM
Jul 2024

and also listened to his AG I feel confident that he would work very well with Harris both as a listener and someone who had valuable input.
He is my Governor. I do not want to loose him but for the sake of the country would give him up.

LisaL

(47,365 posts)
53. It certainly looks that he wants the job of VP.
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 05:26 PM
Jul 2024

Isn't he "auditioning" when he is giving those interviews? I am sure he is willing work with a woman in charge.

 

alarimer

(17,146 posts)
14. I'm coming around to this too.
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 03:44 PM
Jul 2024

I don't know how important the VP really is. But I definitely am hesitant about Shapiro and Kelly but for different reasons.

Nanjeanne

(6,530 posts)
17. He's the same age as Harris. Besides young people gravitate to bold and exciting ideas. Bernie
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 04:07 PM
Jul 2024

is old and had no problem energizing young people. Right now I think Walz has the attention of young people because of his bluntness, energy, humor and policies.

Vance is young. Just saying.

irisblue

(37,051 posts)
20. He is 60, but he does look more grandpa like.
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 04:18 PM
Jul 2024

He also had a DUI in




(that news site is listed as right leaning)

Shrub Bush had a DUI in 1976

Source-https://cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/11/02/bush.dui/

Americans do seem to like the redemptive second acts after a screw up. Yes, I do understand Republicans & conservatives get away with alot.

Nanjeanne

(6,530 posts)
26. This was from 1995 and hasn't affected his elections so if this is the worst they can find,
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 04:27 PM
Jul 2024

I am not concerned. I’m sure Walz has had to explain himself many many times since then.

Nanjeanne

(6,530 posts)
29. Have you investigated what Alpha News actually is? Really shouldn't even be quoted here on DU.
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 04:37 PM
Jul 2024
https://abetterminnesota.org/2022/02/the-truth-about-alpha-news/]

Murky origins

Alpha News launched in 2015, headed by a group of Tea Party Republicans, many of whom wouldn’t even reveal their identities. Some of Alpha News’s “articles” don’t even have bylines. According to the Society for Professional Journalists code of ethics, that’s a major red flag. And that’s just one of many professional standards that Alpha News fails to meet.

An extremist agenda

Alpha News’s sketchy background is untrustworthy, but even that is nothing compared to the actual content hosted on their site. Posts on Alpha News’s website include baseless conspiracy theories, Islamophobic rhetoric, and bogus data.

An independent analysis calls Alpha News a questionable source, citing low credibility and far-right bias. Basically, Alpha News is fake news.


https://www.startribune.com/the-mysterious-launch-of-alpha-news/295815641/]

The launch of Alpha News was first promoted today by the Minnesota Tea Party Alliance on Facebook. Many of the initial news stories from Alpha News cover issues which have been advocated by the Minnesota Tea Party

In response to a request to interview any of the board members or staff with Alpha News, Erynn said many of the people "behind Alpha News would like to remain anonymous."

According to Alpha News' website, Erynn attended the University of Minnesota and served as Miss Minneapolis 2014. Erynn, a self-described Libertarian, also served





irisblue

(37,051 posts)
35. Which is why in my post #26 I noted that is right leaning. I'm not willing to go into an argument with you.
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 04:43 PM
Jul 2024

I do not have time to argue. You can block me.

Have a good evening

Nanjeanne

(6,530 posts)
37. Why would I block you and I didn't think I was having an argument. I thought it was a discussion.
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 04:48 PM
Jul 2024

Don’t be so sensitive. Relax and enjoy your night.

But if you are that stressed please feel free to block me. I won’t be insulted.

Nanjeanne

(6,530 posts)
33. More info on the origin of this story from Daily Kos back in 2006
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 04:42 PM
Jul 2024
Republican incumbent Gil Gutknecht has been running scared for a while now ... running from his rubberstamping voting record, running from the Bush Administration and desparately hoping for something to distract voters in southern Minnesota from the real issues.

The Republicans may have found it. In 1995, Tim Walz was pulled over for speeding and arrested for DUI. The only problem for the Republicans Lie Machine is he wasn't drunk. Tim has significant hearing loss. He couldn't hear the officer who pulled him over. The judge threw the case out.

Tim's loss of hearing stems from serving as an artillery gunner in the Minnesota National Guard. Gil Gutknecht's problems stem from voting as the Bush Administration would like him to vote over 90% of the time. Call the Gutknecht Campaign and ask them to stop the dirty smear campaign:
202-225-2472
507-252-9841
800-862-8632
507-238-2835

This attack originated from MN slime-meister Michael Brodkorb and his blog MN Democrats Exposed. Broadkorb has a long (in blog-years) history of lies, innuendo and a distinct inability to check his facts.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2006/9/9/244487/-]

moonscape

(5,653 posts)
25. In a still photo he looks older but in
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 04:27 PM
Jul 2024

interviews he’s youthful, fluid, energetic, quick, which is why he is catching on with all ages.


.

crimycarny

(2,069 posts)
45. I believe Tim Walz would appeal to Pennsylvania voters too
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 05:06 PM
Jul 2024

Strong labor supporter and against school vouchers, which were unpopular in Pennsylvania when Shapiro supported them.

At least it's nice to have such a strong bench to choose from!

mn9driver

(4,833 posts)
34. He's a good governor. Great leadership.
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 04:43 PM
Jul 2024

I would hate to lose him to Washington, but yeah, he would make an excellent VP.

Diamond_Dog

(40,076 posts)
38. Being a teacher elevates him in my eyes, because wingnuts hate teachers.
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 04:51 PM
Jul 2024

I personally think we need someone more hip and young looking. I’m not saying he’s not a great candidate,and overall good person, but we need someone younger looking, please. Shapiro or Buttigieg.

PlutosHeart

(1,445 posts)
51. When young people see
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 05:19 PM
Jul 2024

Shapiro's lack of doing anything on the environment and throwing wrenches in things they might not like him. I know I do not.

crimycarny

(2,069 posts)
41. I agree
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 05:03 PM
Jul 2024

I didn't know much about Tim Walz at all, never heard of him to be honest until he's been on the stump. You mention that you did not know much about Tim Walz and now you think he might be the best pick. I do too.

So to come from no one knowing who you are, to going viral on Tiktok and other social media (for his "weird" comments on Trump), and for you, me, and others to go from not knowing him to thinking he might be the best pick. That speaks volumes.

TBF

(35,975 posts)
44. David Hogg really likes him & that's a strong rec in my book.
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 05:06 PM
Jul 2024

I still like Shapiro best, but I also see the benefits of everyone who has been suggested. This is a good problem to have.

Dunnjen

(82 posts)
59. Same
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 05:56 PM
Jul 2024

However, I realized that he is very quiet on the national stage and seems to be focused on doing his job in Kentucky. I don't doubt that he's good at his job, but we also need a dynamic personality that doesn't pull punches. I'm remembering Tim Kaine, a quiet, interesting and steady guy. No bounce.

dem4decades

(13,852 posts)
60. I'm remembering Joe Lieberman, more concerned with himself looking presidential than
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 06:00 PM
Jul 2024

Taking the fight to Bush and especially Cheney.

He cost Gore the election as far as I'm concerned.

Nanjeanne

(6,530 posts)
55. What is so attractive to me and I think will be attractive to voters is that he can dress in a suit or in
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 05:38 PM
Jul 2024

normal, working class clothes and it doesn’t look like an act. He comes across as an authentic man, comfortable in his own skin and that’s appealing. With Kamala, he is an enthusiastic supporter of hers, but can also reach out to a constituency that might not be willing to give her a first look. I think they would make a super team, reaching voters across the spectrum. Lawyer - teacher. Prosecutor — football coach. Classy woman from a blue coast state. Regular guy vibe from a Midwest state. Both with great sense of humor and fun.

TheFarseer

(9,761 posts)
57. He gives us a great chance to win
Sun Jul 28, 2024, 05:46 PM
Jul 2024

Especially rust belt states and states with rural populations like AZ, NV, NH. I’m not sure he translates to the South as much. He would destroy Vance in a debate and any appearances. But I see this as an investment in the future. This could at worst, plant a seed in rural America that Republicans are not helping you. They are a bunch of demented demagogues trying to say what they think rural people want but they actually just represent big business.

Desert grandma

(1,074 posts)
71. I posted Gov Walz was my choice on July 28
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 11:02 AM
Aug 2024

I was so happy to learn that he was the one Vice President Harris picked. Because he is a Midwesterner, a veteran, and is very familiar with rural values, I think he will bring a balance to the ticket and a vibe that is reminiscent of the Biden/Harris team. We have a winning team!!!

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Why I think Tim Walz is t...