BREAKING: Roy Cooper pulls out of VP vetting

[democrattotheend]

Per NYT. Nobody knows why.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/29/us/politics/roy-cooper-kamala-harris-vp.html

[elleng]

1. WOW!

Hope he's ok.

[LisaL]

4. Somebody here posted a little while back that his wife didn't want him to go for it.

Who knows?

[elleng]

10. Makes sense.

[LisaL]

15. That post stuck in my mind because the poster claimed inside knowledge.

But people post a lot of things and it's hard to know if they actually have inside information.

[bullimiami]

2. Ok. He's a decent governor but too milquetoast.

[MattNC2021]

35. He's a good governor. A great attorney general...

But too reserved for what we need.

[Renew Deal]

3. Maybe he thought he wasn't going to get it

Or maybe something was found. It’s too bad. I didn’t think he was the right choice but I liked his enthusiasm.

[LisaL]

5. Somebody here claimed that they didn't think he would go for it because his wife

didn't think he should do it.

[Music Man]

14. It's certainly understandable.

Perhaps from their point of view, Cooper had just finished his second term as governor, and they were looking forward to retirement. Unlike, say, Biden in 2008 who was about the same age Cooper is now but who clearly still had big ambitions, I don't get that vibe from Cooper.

We shall see!

[JanMichael]

48. He mentioned his age in one article

Kind of like "too old for this shit".

Seriously doubt it is a scandal in his past.

[Renew Deal]

23. That's a pretty good reason

[dsc]

19. I highly doubt something was found

He has been a statewide elected politician here for a couple of decades and there haven't even been rumors of anything. We aren't Delaware or Vermont but we aren't California or Texas either. I can't see him being able to hide a huge secret for that long in a fairly smallish state.

[LisaL]

27. I don't think anything was found either.

At his age he could be ready to retire instead of starting a new job. Also, he withdraw his name. If something was found, he could have just been not selected.

[relayerbob]

6. Wasn't a finalist

So just move on. Or, perhaps they found something in background they didn’t want to deal with.

[LisaL]

9. Really he is at an age most people are retiring.

Maybe he just didn't want to do it.

[bucolic_frolic]

7. He was in a difficult position

He would be expected to deliver NC. No easy task. He would be blamed if we didn't capture MI PA WI. Not enough winning on the table, or at least that's how I see it.

[pat_k]

8. Huh

Maybe he and his wife were looking forward to starting a normal life at the end of his last term as governor (term limited).

[LisaL]

11. That's what I am thinking.

At his age most people are looking forward to retirement.
Not starting a highly demanding new job.

[Renew Deal]

25. For up to 8 years

And he’s 67. All understandable

[getagrip_already]

31. And then another 8 if he runs for potus.....

67 + 16 ......

Thats tough to pull off.

[moonscape]

33. And ... Secret Service and never-ending

death threats. I can well imagine wanting a more peaceful life.

[nycbos]

16. A reasonable thing to want.

[NNguyenMD]

12. My money is that it's going to go the balanced ticket route...

Andy Beshear or Mark Kelly… doesn’t hurt the ticket and potential upside for swaying the swing voters.

Pete Buttigieg is my personal favorite, and the perfect messenger.

[elleng]

13. *Ms. Harris's vetting process began last week and is expected to run through this weekend.

She has yet to meet in person with any of the potential running mates. The initial candidate interviews with members of her campaign staff have begun over video calls.'

[Traildogbob]

17. This may be

A good thing for my State. I heard a political lawyer
On the Michelangelo show say that when a governor leaves a state to “let’s say campaign,” the Lt. Governor assumes all duties of the Governor. That would mean Mark Robinson would become acting Gov in NC while Cooper is away, and our criminal supermajority would be able to do all kinds of bullshit in Cooper’s absence. And this NC legislature has proven how fucked up they will go to fulfill GQP wet dreams.

[Island Blue]

21. I deleted what I just typed

because you explained it better.

[Traildogbob]

30. Who knows

What kind of voter suppression Robinson and the GQP supermajority could pull off while Copper would be on the trail with Kamala to give Robinson the win and the idiot running as Secretary of education (or no education allowed except Jeebus). Maybe Cooper is trying to preserve what democracy we have left here. Which is hanging by a thread.

[Island Blue]

43. I'm sure Robinson

was chomping at the bit for a chance to pull off some evil shenanigans!

I think Cooper will now put his heart & soul into campaigning for Kamala (& Josh Stein, etc.) in North Carolina!

[Traildogbob]

44. He looks

Like he is well versed in chomping too.
Evil POS. And fully supported by the SuperMajority.
Just look at how they got that power. Worst gerrymandering in the Nation. So bad the FEC said we are not to be considered a democracy.
And a lying ass woman ran as a pro choice Democrat, switched parties after elected and went fun in zero abortion.
We need a liberating force to come save us and give the leaders the Sadam treatment.

[Island Blue]

45. Agreed

We have one (small) town in my county that is gerrymandered into two house districts. It’s like the only semi-reliable blue town in the county. Go figure. 🙄

[JJ101]

32. Oh my

That is a terrific reason to withdraw.

[Celerity]

34. I saw MSNBC hosts say several days ago that the Lt Governor is very limited in NC in terms of what they can do when the

Governor is out of the State.

[Traildogbob]

40. I had no idea

But this attorney on Michael’s show was adamant about what he was saying. His law degree was in political regulations, and some states do not turn over control with an absence, but NC specifically does.
I really like Cooper and he has kept us surviving the criminality of the likes of Meadows Cawthorn and Virginia Fox. He has been our only lifeline.
The thought of Robinson with a once of power in terrifying.
And it’s been proven NC GQP could give a fuck about legal procedures.
But I am only passing on what this lawyer was very fired up about.
I had no idea, and it scared the shit out of me.

[Traildogbob]

42. And!!!

Katy Tur and Mitchell are MSNBC Hosts🤔

[Raven123]

20. He said earlier that his wife was looking forward to being away from politics

May have had an impact.

[LisaL]

26. My guess it is the reason.

They would have to leave NC and start a whole new demanding job.

[obamanut2012]

22. He is a Tarheel through and through

And, at 67, why do he and his family want this stress?

Ie his schooling was in NC and his life is in NC.

[ColinC]

24. Who's left? Shapiro Kelly and Walz?

[Polybius]

28. Andy Beshear too

[Prairie Gates]

29. Hmmmm...the framing of that is not great

[Thrill]

36. As I stated before

Here in NC we know. He’s a good man and has done a good job as governor but he doesn’t like Politics. And this is going to be to big of a nasty election for him. They probably told him what he would have to do and he likely just didn’t want any part of it.

He should however replace Garland as AG

[TBF]

37. Once they start vetting you it gets real -

maybe he and his wife just decided it was too much to take on if they had been looking forward to retirement soon. Even Joe Biden had retired & was pulled back in - and he had run for president more than once.

[ITAL]

38. He was my choice

Oh well!

[Sky Jewels]

39. Damn. Too bad.

[dsc]

41. I am not seeing the News and Observer (Raleigh's Paper) reporting this yet update from the horse's mouth

Last edited Mon Jul 29, 2024, 07:30 PM - Edit history (1)

I wonder if the Times is correct here. Here is his statement on this.

Link to tweet

[In It to Win It]

46. His biggest weakness is having a Republican Lt. Governor. He can't campaign outside of NC

Not his fault but that's the hand he was dealt.

He can't physically leave the state without a RWNJ becoming acting governor and assuming all powers of the governorship.

[Red Mountain]

47. THe Lt. Gov. seldom bothered

He has no power. He wasn't left with the keys.