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highplainsdem

(62,152 posts)
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 08:16 PM Jul 2024

People, please do NOT post videos that AREN'T Harris campaign ads and say that they are.

We have an example of that at https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219258014 with more than 100 recs.

Please see my reply 25 there.

The video is from a Twitter account I'd never heard of, identified in the profile as a content creator in the UK.

Nice video, and it does give the link for Harris's website at the end, but it does NOT come from the campaign.

Please don't share videos like this and say they are campaign videos.

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People, please do NOT post videos that AREN'T Harris campaign ads and say that they are. (Original Post) highplainsdem Jul 2024 OP
WOW krawhitham Jul 2024 #1
Hey, a lot of these are VERY good, please dont ban them getagrip_already Jul 2024 #2
Those are properly identified and from groups we're familiar with. This was misrepresented as a Harris campaign highplainsdem Jul 2024 #4
Why is it still up? JustAnotherGen Jul 2024 #3
I think people assumed it was a campaign ad, and no one checked, including the DUer who posted it. highplainsdem Jul 2024 #5
Probably because no one alerted on it? Attilatheblond Jul 2024 #6
I'm guessing it was an innocent mistake by the DUer who posted it, but they need to be more careful. highplainsdem Jul 2024 #8
One of many recently mahina Jul 2024 #18
I know. highplainsdem Jul 2024 #19
And need not to post stuff moonscape Jul 2024 #22
We need a JustAnotherGen Jul 2024 #33
Meh, a tempest in a teapot. Jack-o-Lantern Jul 2024 #7
No, it isn't. The campaign chooses their messages and ads, and nothing should be misrepresented as highplainsdem Jul 2024 #9
A reminder to all of us to be mindful of what we post MustLoveBeagles Jul 2024 #28
great ad! nt ecstatic Jul 2024 #10
Their official ads are better, IMO, and this should never have been posted as an official campaign ad. highplainsdem Jul 2024 #12
Weird, isn't it? orthoclad Jul 2024 #11
More a mess than weird. highplainsdem Jul 2024 #14
Lot of weird mess going on lately. orthoclad Jul 2024 #23
+1000 nt WarGamer Jul 2024 #13
Thank you. highplainsdem Jul 2024 #15
This isn't the first time that poster has done something like this. orange jar Jul 2024 #16
I just replied to their post recommending people use a generative AI tool to ask questions about highplainsdem Jul 2024 #17
I saw that, too. orange jar Jul 2024 #20
You don't, but there are already people who are becoming AI dependent, which the AI companies encourage. Did you highplainsdem Jul 2024 #21
I participate in a lot of market research for moonscape Jul 2024 #24
There are AI tools encouraging people to use AI to write almost everything for them, especially highplainsdem Jul 2024 #25
Damage indeed. Those moonscape Jul 2024 #29
Wow. orange jar Jul 2024 #27
It's a generative AI bubble. These companies are losing billions because AI is so expensive, and there highplainsdem Jul 2024 #31
I have to whole heartedly agree. Grown2Hate Jul 2024 #26
Thank you. I've added more replies to that other thread, clearing up a misunderstanding created by highplainsdem Jul 2024 #30
kick highplainsdem Jul 2024 #32

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
2. Hey, a lot of these are VERY good, please dont ban them
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 08:21 PM
Jul 2024

Maybe just don't represent them as "official" campaign videos.

Midas touch, the lincoln project, and several other channels have posted excellent ad like videos.

I absolutely want to see those.

highplainsdem

(62,152 posts)
4. Those are properly identified and from groups we're familiar with. This was misrepresented as a Harris campaign
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 08:25 PM
Jul 2024

ad, and it's from a UK group I've never heard of. They might mean well, but their videos should NOT be presented as from the campaign.

highplainsdem

(62,152 posts)
5. I think people assumed it was a campaign ad, and no one checked, including the DUer who posted it.
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 08:27 PM
Jul 2024

God knows where it's been copied already and misrepresented as from Harris's campaign.

highplainsdem

(62,152 posts)
8. I'm guessing it was an innocent mistake by the DUer who posted it, but they need to be more careful.
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 08:39 PM
Jul 2024

moonscape

(5,724 posts)
22. And need not to post stuff
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 09:33 PM
Jul 2024

from random Twitter accounts without verifying.

If it’s not an account one is following, or which is known … that place is a cesspool. I say that as someone who is still on it for the good that’s still there, but definitely a landmine.

highplainsdem

(62,152 posts)
9. No, it isn't. The campaign chooses their messages and ads, and nothing should be misrepresented as
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 08:46 PM
Jul 2024

an official message or ad when it isn't.

The Twitter account didn't claim it was a video from the campaign. The DUer who posted it made a mistake, should have been more careful, and I hope that any DUers that posted it elsewhere as an official ad will correct those posts, or delete them if they can't correct them.

The group with that Twitter account and posting these videos SHOULD label them clearly, to avoid confusion.

highplainsdem

(62,152 posts)
12. Their official ads are better, IMO, and this should never have been posted as an official campaign ad.
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 09:00 PM
Jul 2024

orange jar

(878 posts)
16. This isn't the first time that poster has done something like this.
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 09:05 PM
Jul 2024

They've posted a few, like, painfully obvious photoshopped photos and have presented them as real endorsements/posts.

Not trying to call them out or anything, and it very well could be a well-meaning poster who just isn't aware that they're fake. But… it's definitely a pattern.

highplainsdem

(62,152 posts)
17. I just replied to their post recommending people use a generative AI tool to ask questions about
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 09:16 PM
Jul 2024

Project 2025.

Sigh. Asking flawed software that hallucinates for answers...

orange jar

(878 posts)
20. I saw that, too.
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 09:25 PM
Jul 2024

It's definitely interesting. Also, not really sure why you'd even need AI to do that.

highplainsdem

(62,152 posts)
21. You don't, but there are already people who are becoming AI dependent, which the AI companies encourage. Did you
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 09:30 PM
Jul 2024

moonscape

(5,724 posts)
24. I participate in a lot of market research for
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 09:39 PM
Jul 2024

health-related issues. In the last year, a box started popping up that one would not be compensated if one’s words were not one’s own but were AI generated.

People cheat talking about their own health?!



moonscape

(5,724 posts)
29. Damage indeed. Those
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 10:30 PM
Jul 2024

so-called peer reviewed illustrations are remarkable. Remarkably frightening.

orange jar

(878 posts)
27. Wow.
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 09:56 PM
Jul 2024

I don't even know what to say to this. Of course, I imagine that Google is encouraging the use of AI because they want people to use Gemini. Same for Google's competitors.

But, my god.

Yes, let's encourage children to use as little of their own voice as possible and stunt the development of their communication skills. That won't result in a horrifying future at all.

The way companies are increasingly trying to shoehorn AI into every single thing humans do is truly tiresome — not to mention a complete catastrophe for workers who will lose their jobs because "AI can do it." We're heading down a truly dystopian (I know that word is a bit overused these days, but it's quite accurate) road and all these corporations and tech firms do not give a single fuck. It's so depressing to watch.

highplainsdem

(62,152 posts)
31. It's a generative AI bubble. These companies are losing billions because AI is so expensive, and there
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 11:01 PM
Jul 2024

are signs the venture capital money will start drying up. Plus there are all those lawsuits for theft of intellectual property. The companies are trying to get flawed, hallucinating AI used as widely as possible not only to generate income, but to be able to argue in court that their AI models are so important to society that their IP theft should be forgiven.

Grown2Hate

(2,216 posts)
26. I have to whole heartedly agree.
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 09:55 PM
Jul 2024

Some of these ads can be inspirational and fun, when properly attributed as 3rd party.

Otherwise, they may include clips, language, or messaging that the actual campaign would be careful to avoid (in this particular ad in question, even some here questioned why they'd show an old clip of VP Harris acting giddy that President Biden was no longer the nominee).

These are fun, but the official ads are better (more careful and precise; not to say they are not hard hitting, but careful in the sense that they avoid getting the wrong message across).

highplainsdem

(62,152 posts)
30. Thank you. I've added more replies to that other thread, clearing up a misunderstanding created by
Mon Jul 29, 2024, 10:54 PM
Jul 2024

the video creator with that Truth Forward account linking to Democracy Forward's site. He has no connection to Democracy Forward. He's a Brit, and I believe his support of the Harris campaign is sincere, but he's just an individual content creator making his own ads, with his Twitter account linked to a Patreon account if people want to support him.

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