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LetMyPeopleVote

(176,683 posts)
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 10:17 AM Aug 2024

'Trump loses his hostage': Biden applauded for securing release of Gershkovich and Whelan

TFG kept promising the release of prisoners by Russia if and only if he was re-elected. TFG was in effect promising that he had a deal with Putin for the release of these prisoners. Putin did this deal at a time where it will help Kamala Harris and not help TFG. President Biden was able to pull of this deal that involved a good number of countries. TFG could never pull off this type of deal



https://www.rawstory.com/trump-loses-his-hostage-biden-applauded-for-securing-release-of-gershkovich-and-whelan/

The Biden administration has secured the release of Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich and former U.S. Marine Paul Whelan from Russian prisons as part of a prisoner swap, which wipes away one of Donald Trump's baffling campaign promises.

The men had been jailed on espionage charges they both deny, and the U.S. State Department has designated them as wrongly detained, and the Kremlin may also release Russian-British dissident Vladimir Kara-Murza, who was convicted of treason for criticizing the Ukraine invasion, as part of the swap.

Trump had raised eyebrows by suggesting multiple times that he had a deal in place with Vladimir Putin to release the journalist from detention if he's re-elected, saying the Russian president "will do that for me, and I don't believe he'll do it for anyone else," but president Joe Biden beat him to the punch and got the pair released.

It's not clear what terms the U.S. agreed to in exchange for the release of Gershkovich and Whelan, but social media users agreed their release was a win for Biden.

"WHOA. Another huge accomplishment from the #BidenHarris administration," said A.J. Delgado, a former Trump campaign aide in 2016 who's become an outspoken critic.......

"Gershkovich release is great news - and interesting that Putin did it now eviscerating Trump’s vile claim that he would get Gershkovich freed at once if elected as a trophy from the Kremlin," saidThe New Yorker's Philip Gourevitch.

"Thank goodness Evan Gershkovich, Paul Whelan, and others are being released from Russia due to the work of the Biden-Harris Administration and our allies,"
said attorney Mujeeb Shah-Khan. "So, guessing Mr. Trump doesn’t have the leverage he thought he did."
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'Trump loses his hostage': Biden applauded for securing release of Gershkovich and Whelan (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 OP
Thank you President Biden for pulling off this very complex deal LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #1
+1 dalton99a Aug 2024 #5
Imagine the MAGA crazies Trump would place at State trying to negotiate Prairie Gates Aug 2024 #2
It's kinda nice that Joe can get work done, not have Buttoneer Aug 2024 #3
I'd looked forward to a second term with him not having to worry about re-election. BadgerMom Aug 2024 #57
Just a great day for these families Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #4
You forgot to mention Alsu Kurmasheva, ruzzian-American woman journalist niyad Aug 2024 #10
Was she part of this? Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #13
According to articles from overseas, yes. American media had not seen fit niyad Aug 2024 #19
Excellent Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author drray23 Aug 2024 #48
Kudos to all involved. Disaffected Aug 2024 #6
It has seemed to me for quite some time that putin is pissed at trump. BComplex Aug 2024 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author BComplex Aug 2024 #28
Two theories about not waiting for the election... thesquanderer Aug 2024 #42
Yes, both plausible alright. nt Disaffected Aug 2024 #55
President Biden negotiated this deal while he was busy with other matters LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #7
Just proves the doubters wrong newdeal2 Aug 2024 #8
He pulls off miracles in the deals that he makes. wnylib Aug 2024 #29
i always thought so too et tu Aug 2024 #32
That's my president! Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #16
KInd of surprised Putin agreed to this. progressoid Aug 2024 #9
Interesting snub to TRAITOR**. Maybe putler sees the writing on the wall! niyad Aug 2024 #15
he def does. mopinko Aug 2024 #24
And maybe the bots are getting exposed in our polling? GreenWave Aug 2024 #37
NPR said putin probably knew trump could not mucifer Aug 2024 #52
Putin's way of saying, "You're fired!" ??? -nt CrispyQ Aug 2024 #53
GREAT NEWS! That is what I would describe as a Pre-emptive strike against the orange blowhard. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2024 #11
I am shocked that Putin would give Biden/Harris a "win" before the election. I am suspicious of what we gave up. surfered Aug 2024 #12
Goddess forfend that we should be happy we got some of our people back, niyad Aug 2024 #18
He knows who he'll be dealing with come January. nolabear Aug 2024 #25
This was surely in the works for months but Putin certainly had the last say underpants Aug 2024 #26
Reported that Britney Griner's release was a precipitant. nolabear Aug 2024 #33
"TFG could never pull off this type of deal..." dchill Aug 2024 #14
Exactly. TwilightZone Aug 2024 #43
Statement by President Joe Biden on Securing the Release of Americans Detained in Russia LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #17
I shed a tear reading this. Just beautiful, and so proud of our President! Thank you. liberalla Aug 2024 #36
and just like that, all of trumps headlines are samnsara Aug 2024 #21
Putin's agreement signals to the felon that he won't win the election. ancianita Aug 2024 #22
Kick in the ass for Trump orangecrush Aug 2024 #23
You're no Richard Nixon or Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush, Donald. NBachers Aug 2024 #50
So grateful these people get to go home to their families. Many do not in Russia. Or Ukraine. 58Sunliner Aug 2024 #30
I love this response by President Biden LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #31
A huge victory for Biden malaise Aug 2024 #49
All kidding aside, GOTTA hand it to President Biden. calimary Aug 2024 #58
Never trust a douchebag. It could be that Putin is doing this to hide from what he has planned to help Trump. Doodley Aug 2024 #34
Or maybe Putin has other plans for *rump . . . NBachers Aug 2024 #51
This is such GREAT news! WOW! Thank you President Biden! liberalla Aug 2024 #35
The next step jayschool2013 Aug 2024 #38
Wow... Good for the Hostages and Pres Biden & VP Harris! Cha Aug 2024 #39
It's a signal to TFG COL Mustard Aug 2024 #40
Pooty knows. moondust Aug 2024 #41
+33. Harker Aug 2024 #44
Yes Putin knows LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #61
This is why Joe Biden is so great PennRalphie Aug 2024 #45
Many people are saying this is because Putin fears ToxMarz Aug 2024 #46
Wonderful news!!! wordstroken Aug 2024 #47
President Biden is an extraordinary man. gademocrat7 Aug 2024 #54
Looks like Vlad can read the polls for America's Biggest Loser Hassler Aug 2024 #56
This statement from TFG makes me smile LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #59
Poor TFG hates seeing posts like this LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #60

LetMyPeopleVote

(176,683 posts)
1. Thank you President Biden for pulling off this very complex deal
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 10:18 AM
Aug 2024

This was a very complex deal involving multiple countries. It took a world leader like President Biden to pull off this deal



https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/08/01/russia-us-prisoner-swap/

In the largest prisoner exchange since the height of the Cold War, officials of the United States, Russia, Germany and other countries met on an airfield tarmac in Ankara, Turkey, on Thursday and were swapping at least two dozen people, the Turkish presidency said — capping months of painstaking diplomacy involving negotiations at the highest levels of multiple governments.

Those to be released included American journalist Evan Gershkovich of the Wall Street Journal, who was accused of espionage without any known evidence, and Paul Whelan, a former Marine jailed for more than five years after an espionage conviction the United States called baseless, as well as several Russian dissidents who demanded freedom and democracy or criticized the war in Ukraine, including Vladimir Kara-Murza, a Pulitzer Prize-winning Washington Post Opinions contributor.

The prisoners were released from the jails of seven countries: the United States, Germany, Poland, Slovenia, Norway, Russia and Belarus, the Turkish presidential office said, adding that they were brought to Turkey by seven planes, two from the United States and one each from Germany, Poland, Slovenia, Norway and Russia.

BadgerMom

(3,392 posts)
57. I'd looked forward to a second term with him not having to worry about re-election.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 06:51 PM
Aug 2024

I’m thrilled now with our terrific veep, but, yeah, I thought about Biden off-leash as it were in a second term and was eagerly anticipating it.

Johnny2X2X

(23,825 posts)
4. Just a great day for these families
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 10:19 AM
Aug 2024

Vogel, Gershkovich, and Whelan are the American end of the deal. Germany got 13 of their people back too.

niyad

(130,444 posts)
10. You forgot to mention Alsu Kurmasheva, ruzzian-American woman journalist
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 10:55 AM
Aug 2024

who never seemed to get mentioned whenever there was talk of jailed American journalists.

niyad

(130,444 posts)
19. According to articles from overseas, yes. American media had not seen fit
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:07 AM
Aug 2024

to ever mention her incarceration, so not surprised they do not seem to be mentioning her now.

Response to niyad (Reply #10)

BComplex

(9,802 posts)
27. It has seemed to me for quite some time that putin is pissed at trump.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:41 AM
Aug 2024

Don't know why, don't care! But it has been apparent to me for a month or so.

Response to Disaffected (Reply #6)

thesquanderer

(12,916 posts)
42. Two theories about not waiting for the election...
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 01:01 PM
Aug 2024

1. Putin didn't trust Trump to have the skills necessary to successfully complete the multi-country deal without somehow screwing it up, and/or

2. the other countries indicated to Putin their own hesitancies about being able to do the deal with Trump in the mix, and insisted that the deal had to happen now, with Biden, or it would be unlikely to happen at all.

et tu

(2,387 posts)
32. i always thought so too
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:55 AM
Aug 2024

but maybe joe can do what he wants to do while
kamala is free to campaign and still safeguard democracy
through the inauguration~

mopinko

(73,419 posts)
24. he def does.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:31 AM
Aug 2024

i bet he’s pulling the plug on his efforts to sway the election, too. too many of his ppl r getting caught anyway.

niyad

(130,444 posts)
18. Goddess forfend that we should be happy we got some of our people back,
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:02 AM
Aug 2024

as did several other nations. In reading the articles, one can see some of who we exchanged.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
25. He knows who he'll be dealing with come January.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:34 AM
Aug 2024

If he’s smart he’ll start trying to court Kamala now, because tfg is dead and gone.

underpants

(195,550 posts)
26. This was surely in the works for months but Putin certainly had the last say
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:38 AM
Aug 2024

Make sure all those ketchup bottles are popped right in front of you Orange Turd.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
33. Reported that Britney Griner's release was a precipitant.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:57 AM
Aug 2024

I’m sure we’ll know more later but you’re right. It’s been in the works for a long time.

dchill

(42,660 posts)
14. "TFG could never pull off this type of deal..."
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 10:57 AM
Aug 2024

He wouldn't have to. All he needed to do is hint at a promise. Now that's no longer operative.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
43. Exactly.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 01:08 PM
Aug 2024

He likes to brag that he would do things that aren't even in his power to impress his followers. This time, it bit him in the ass.

I'm not sure why anyone ever takes anything he says at face value. There's always an agenda, and he's almost always lying.

LetMyPeopleVote

(176,683 posts)
17. Statement by President Joe Biden on Securing the Release of Americans Detained in Russia
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:01 AM
Aug 2024


https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/08/01/statement-by-president-joe-biden-on-securing-the-release-of-americans-detained-in-russia/

Today, three American citizens and one American green-card holder who were unjustly imprisoned in Russia are finally coming home: Paul Whelan, Evan Gershkovich, Alsu Kurmasheva, and Vladimir Kara-Murza.

The deal that secured their freedom was a feat of diplomacy. All told, we’ve negotiated the release of 16 people from Russia—including five Germans and seven Russian citizens who were political prisoners in their own country. Some of these women and men have been unjustly held for years. All have endured unimaginable suffering and uncertainty. Today, their agony is over.

I am grateful to our Allies who stood with us throughout tough, complex negotiations to achieve this outcome— including Germany, Poland, Slovenia, Norway, and Turkey. This is a powerful example of why it’s vital to have friends in this world whom you can trust and depend upon. Our alliances make Americans safer.

And let me be clear: I will not stop working until every American wrongfully detained or held hostage around the world is reunited with their family. My Administration has now brought home over 70 such Americans, many of whom were in captivity since before I took office. Still, too many families are suffering and separated from their loved ones, and I have no higher priority as President than bringing those Americans home.

Today, we celebrate the return of Paul, Evan, Alsu, and Vladimir and rejoice with their families. We remember all those still wrongfully detained or held hostage around the world. And reaffirm our pledge to their families: We see you. We are with you. And we will never stop working to bring your loved ones home where they belong.

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orangecrush

(29,339 posts)
23. Kick in the ass for Trump
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 11:30 AM
Aug 2024

Who would have much preferred Vlad keeping these prisoners until right before the election, when he would announce a deal with Trump and release them after, like Reagan with the hostages in Iran.

Has Putin written Trump off?

calimary

(89,289 posts)
58. All kidding aside, GOTTA hand it to President Biden.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 08:20 PM
Aug 2024

He knows he’s leaving next January, but he’s still using his remaining Oval Office time to get some truly meaningful things done now.

He is a GREAT man.

jayschool2013

(2,611 posts)
38. The next step
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 12:36 PM
Aug 2024

Let's make sure that the WSJ reporter and other journalists in the U.S. aren't targeted and criminalized by Kash Patel, Trump's likely attorney general, who has promised to do just that.

GOTV!

 

PennRalphie

(448 posts)
45. This is why Joe Biden is so great
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 01:08 PM
Aug 2024

His foreign policy experience is unmatched. Total congratulations to our President and VP for getting these people home.

This gives Kamala great momentum on the foreign policy front!

ToxMarz

(2,797 posts)
46. Many people are saying this is because Putin fears
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 01:14 PM
Aug 2024

the next President Harris's rath and convinced of her inevitable election would rather not have to face off with her on this.

Really, if other people say this, many people are saying this!

gademocrat7

(11,840 posts)
54. President Biden is an extraordinary man.
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 02:07 PM
Aug 2024

He and Vice President Harris quietly worked tirelessly to get the hostages out of Russia. He sang Happy Birthday to one of hostages children.

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