Pennsylvania Gov. Shapiro cancels Hamptons trip, days before expected Harris VP reveal

[RandySF]

Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro has canceled a trip to the ritzy New York beach enclave of the Hamptons, as he is being considered to be Vice President Kamala Harris’ running mate, according to a person with direct knowledge of the matter.

Shapiro was supposed to go to at least two events in the Hamptons, including a meet and greet with wealthy donors at the home of public relations executive Mike Kempner.

“The Governor’s trip was planned several weeks ago and included several fundraisers for his own campaign committee,” Shapiro spokesman Manuel Bonder confirmed to NBC News. “His schedule has changed and he is no longer traveling to the Hamptons this weekend.”

The meeting at Kempner’s home in Water Mill, New York, on Sunday was set to have more than 100 people attend, including those from the legal, sports and finance industries, the person explained. This person was granted anonymity in order to speak freely about a private matter.



https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/01/shapiro-harris-vp-reveal-plans.html

[Cha]

1. And the Suspense Mounts.. TY!

[honest.abe]

2. I've seen enough... Harris / Shapiro!

[JohnSJ]

3. I've seen enough. Harris/Shapiro, Harris/Kelly, Harris/walz,

Harris/Buttigieg

[honest.abe]

10. Good one!

[JohnSJ]

12. Sorry, couldn't help myself

[Trueblue1968]

86. Harris .... Kelly lets take Arizona and the whole southern western states... AZ.. NM .. Texas..

Maybe more.


Just my fantasy

[lindysalsagal]

4. Great! I wanna vote for him! Going to be a brilliant potus in 8 years

[DemocratInPa]

5. My Daughter who will be voting in her first election said..

She isn't voting if Shapiro is the VP nominee... Don't like his stance on Gaza and comparing those who voice concern to the KKK.

I hope she comes around, but I worry there are going to be many more young like her.

[RandySF]

6. .

[gab13by13]

29. Allow me to respond

Being from Pa. he/she posts a lot of negative Shapiro stuff.

I was guessing it would be Shapiro based on all the negative posts he is getting.

My daughter has always been a huge Kamala fan, no matter who she chose as VP.

Shapiro is very popular in Pa. he we will ensure 19 Electoral votes if he is the pick.

[Nimble_Idea]

7. well played, why didn't I think of this?

[Kingofalldems]

8. Yeah no.

[honest.abe]

9. Her non-vote will be swamped by other new young voters who..

don’t have issues with his position on Israel.

[democratsruletheday]

22. agree 'honest abe'.....plus it's not like

the Harris team hasn't considered this fer crissakes....just sayin'. Have some faith people...damn.

[honest.abe]

26. Yep. Im convinced the new young voters are going to come through for us in Nov in a very big way.

Shapiro will deliver PA and also help with the youth vote despite his "jewishness".

[FakeNoose]

11. Mention to your daughter that it should be Kamala's policy she should be concerned about

Anything a VP candidate might say is meaningless, it's Kamala's policies that will matter.

The main important thing the Vice President does is to preside over the Senate, and vote whenever there's a tie. Occasionally the VP steps in on official matters of state (shaking hands and greeting visiting dignitaries) when the President isn't available.

[pinkstarburst]

15. This is BS, if we are excluding Pete on the basis of

"it's a bridge too far" and other b.s. excuses. People absolutely give a darn about who is on the bottom of the ticket and young people are absolutely concerned about what is going on in the middle east right now and statements that Shapiro has made may lose us young voters, which HAS to be taken into account. It is not just about if he can have an influence in one state if he causes an entire movement of young people to cool, and loses us several other swing states with large Muslim populations.

[phoenix_rising]

18. +♾️ This!!! ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ n/t

[FakeNoose]

28. WTF??? I mean seriously, this has nothing to do with Buttigieg

I responded to someone who said her first-time-voting daughter is refusing to vote BLUE because of something Josh Shapiro said. My reaction is that anything Josh Shapiro said is meaningless in this upcoming election. Please try to keep up.

For the record - I do hope Buttigieg will be Kamala's final choice.

But even if he isn't, I'm still voting BLUE no matter who.

[gab13by13]

30. Define "we" I don't get to tell Kamala who to pick, leave me out.

I promise to donate 100 bucks as soon as the pick is made to show my support.

[Demsrule86]

40. No, winning a state like PA is what needs to be taken into account...many of these kids have already said they will vote

third party or for Trump or not at all.

[DemocratInPa]

19. You are voting for Kamala and a VP.. Remember how excited we were when Kamala was announced in 2020?

[kansasobama]

38. Tell your daughter about Trump

If Trump wins, Gaza protesters will be deported to Guantanamo or God knows where. Based on SC immunity stuff, all Trump and his AG has to do to is to say that Gaza protesters are Hamas terrorist sympathizers and then deport. A mayhem will ensure. SC will say Trump is immune. Protesting Gaza as Biden-Harris works on peace deal is a better proposition than Arab-American mayhem. Gaza will be razed and become a parking lot for Trump-Netanyahu hotels. Gaza protesters are being very naive. There are demons on both Palestinian and Israel. Both are no angels.

[Elessar Zappa]

13. There's many young people who are NOT anti-Israel.

I’m not worried at all, Gen Z will support Harris at 65%, give or take.

[DemocratInPa]

20. Maybe...

But I know places like Penn State and a lot of other Universities have a lot of young voters who are Pro-Palenstine and the fact this man compared the younger protesters who did what is within their rights to the KKK is just wrong IMO.

[gab13by13]

33. Centre County isn't exactly blue just because there's a University there.

Back in 1967 -68 when I was at Penn State, George Wallace held a rally at University Park.

[PufPuf23]

39. George Wallace was a Democratic candidate for POTUS in the 1968 primary.

Went and saw Wallace on a HS field trip at the Cow Palace in San Francisco. There were more anti-Wallace supports than Wallace supporters by many orders of magnitude. There might have been more tactical squad than Wallace supporters. Went on a HS field trip to a Hubert Humphrey rally in 1968 too; would be Vietnam War protesters and longhairs in general were not allowed into the rally.

[Demsrule86]

41. Where is the link about the KKK comment?

[DemocratInPa]

44. Google..

Its all over the place... I believe he made those comments direct sometime in late April.

[lapucelle]

65. Josh Shapiro never made the comment you claim he made.

That's why it's nowhere on Google.

[lapucelle]

63. Yeah, that never happened. "Google it" doesn't work because there is no quote.

Shapiro never "compared younger protesters who did what is within their rights to the KKK".

In a CNN interview Governor Shapiro affirmed the duty of colleges to keep Jewish students safe from anti-Semitic protestors on campus in the same way they would protect Black students from KKK marchers.

Here's the CNN interview,.

Gov. Shapiro: Peaceful protests can't be excuse for antisemitism

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2024/04/24/the-lead-josh-shapiro-college-protests-israel-hamas-democrats-primary-2024-jake-tapper.cnn

[MorbidButterflyTat]

73. It's a lie

“'We have to query whether or not we would tolerate this, if this were people dressed up in KKK outfits or KKK regalia, making comments about people who are African American in our communities,' Shapiro said on CNN in April about student protests..."

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/josh-shapiro-israel-kamala-harris-20240725.html

Fantastical deliberate defamation. IMO.

[democratsruletheday]

24. Correct EZ....

they're gonna turn out for her and Shapiro will soften his stance on Israel..guaranteed

[DemocratInPa]

45. how do you soften your stance..

after you compared protesters of genocide to the freaking KKK?

Sorry he might be a decent Gov, but after those comments, and now the UAW President condemning him.. No Thanks

[Sugarcoated]

16. My granddaughter and her college friends

are excited to cast their first ever vote, blue no matter who Harris picks

[TheKentuckian]

51. Lost cause.

Just too flakey to chase.

As soon as she gets the wrong whiff in the air it will be Kill em All Kamala anyway no matter who the VP candidate is who they will flip as well and the more they liked them the more "betrayed" they will pretend to feel.

Pogrom Pete, right around the next corner.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

71. What was your response to her?

Maybe you could explain reality to her.

[democrattotheend]

88. Me too

And if nothing else, it will bring a lot of media coverage to the issue, where our party is really divided. I'm Jewish and I live in PA (about 15 minutes from where Governor Shapiro lives), and I just have a sick feeling of dread about the prospect of him being chosen, which is so different from how I felt 24 years ago when Gore picked Lierberman.

[jujubeets]

14. Shapiro was my fav but

The PA Supreme court just revived the Ellen Greenberg case. What is with these supreme courts?!

[honest.abe]

17. Please explain for us non-PA folks.

TIA.

[DemocratInPa]

21. She was..

A Philadelphia Teacher who in 2011 was found dead.. After an investigation, then AG Josh Shapiro ruled it a suicide, but a lot of family and friends said she was murdered. Now the PA Supreme Court wants its to be reopen to see if their was any misdoings.

JS is getting a lot of ghosts in his closet.. Hard pass for me.

[honest.abe]

23. And yet he is the "most popular governor in recent memory" based on a poll in March.

(WTHM) – Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro is the most popular governor in recent memory more than a year into his term, according to a new Franklin & Marshall College Poll.

The survey found 54% of registered Pennsylvania voters believe Shapiro has done an excellent or good job as Governor.
That rating is higher than Governors Tom Ridge, Tom Wolf, Ed Rendell, and Tom Corbett at this point in their first terms.

https://www.abc27.com/pennsylvania-politics/josh-shapiro-pennsylvanias-most-popular-governor-at-this-point-in-term-poll/

[DemocratInPa]

35. Is it worth taking a chance with everything at stake?

If he is nominee the media will hammer him over the sexual harassment payout, his Pro-Israel stance, and now this..

Our democracy is at stake.. JS is amazing and in a long range election cycle I would have no issue, but this close to election night.

[Demsrule86]

42. Yes...he is a very popular governor and can deliver PA to us...

You do know that one of the attackers of Shapiro is Nina Turner and I promise you she will never vote for Democrats and her followers won't either.

[Cosmocat]

55. They will do the dirt any of them

Have we not learned anything over the last four decades?

They will use things that already exist or throw $hit at the wall till people get wore down and give in to the bs, for whoever is picked.

It's going to happen to Kamela, too.

Ds gotta learn to stick behind their candidates.

[DemocratInPa]

36. Press already on him about the NDA and pay off for the Sexual Harassment allegation..

Link to tweet

[scipan]

48. Why did you just mention your daughter when it's obviously both of you?

Hard to understand.

[DemocratInPa]

50. wait what?

I am voting for Harris regardless.. My daughter isn't it..

See she protested in the Spring at Penn State and to be compared to KKK I can understand her being upset.

Way top attack us

[scipan]

52. Why are you voting for Harris? Have you discussed your reasoning with your daughter?

[MorbidButterflyTat]

75. What "daughter"?

[pinkstarburst]

25. I think there could be problems if more of this comes out

right as he and Kamala are in the thick of it. There was the issue with the staffer and the sexual harassment case, the statement comparing students protesting the situation in the middle east to KKK (this will definitely lose us young voters and DEFINITELY differentiates his position from other potential VP candidates on Israel), and school vouchers.

He may have a positive influence as far as Pennsylvania goes, but at what cost?

[gab13by13]

34. Oh yeah, guilt by association,

I golfed with someone numerous times, never knew he carried a gun in his golf bag. The guy killed his wife and himself. I am so sorry and I apologize to everyone for not being able to see what this guy was going to do.

[Indykatie]

37. I Think Shapiro's Biggest Negative is His Embrace of School Vouchers

This is a big damn deal in the Dem party. I doubt we could come up with another high level Democrat with aspirations to run for POTUS one day that are so passionate for vouchers. Shapiro has done a good getting extra funding for education in PA but his stance on vouchers is a problem that will need to be addressed.

[Demsrule86]

43. That is not true... the voucher thing is bullshit.

[DemocratInPa]

46. Stop dude...

So the UAW President is a liar?

[Cosmocat]

56. Yes

Same as w Kelly, it's just him posturing to be a big shot.

[lapucelle]

61. What does the president of the United Auto Workers union have to do school vouchers?

What are you even talking about at this point?

Shapiro, both on the campaign trail in 2022 and as governor, has supported the idea of using public tax dollars to fund scholarships that would allow students in low-performing public schools to attend a private school of their choice. However, despite initially supporting a $100 million allocation for vouchers during the 2023 state budget cycle, Shapiro ultimately line-item vetoed the funding amid a budget impasse between the Democratic-controlled state House and the GOP-controlled state Senate.

To date, Shapiro has not signed any voucher legislation into law.

Manuel Bonder, a spokesperson for Shapiro, highlighted the governor’s accomplishments on public education in a statement.

“In his time in office, Governor Shapiro has consistently delivered historic increases in public education funding and finally, after decades of inaction, moved Pennsylvania towards adequately and equitably funding our public schools,” Bonder said. “Despite being the only Governor in the nation with a divided legislature – and despite bad faith attacks from all sides – Josh Shapiro has been a champion for public education and delivered real results.”

https://www.cityandstatepa.com/politics/2024/07/shapiros-stance-school-vouchers-comes-under-focus-amid-vp-speculation/398333/

[Demsrule86]

67. mostly out of state...this is hatchet job...

"In a letter signed by 28 organizations – many of which are from out of state – and addressed to Harris, the coalition urged the vice president to select a running mate “who unabashedly supports and defends public education.”

[lapucelle]

72. The United Auto Workers union president did not sign that letter.

Meanwhile, there's this:

Link to tweet

[Demsrule86]

68. You should stop...

[DemocratInPa]

70. No..

I am not stopping.. Shapiro has to much baggage for me right now.. I support a better candidate like Andy.. But go ahead, keep ignoring voters who have concern.

[honest.abe]

85. I think the anti-Shapiro folks "doth protest too much".

It actually doesnt matter since the decision is being made by Harris and a serious vetting team in private. The negative comments here will have zero impact.

I think its going to be Shapiro. Its common sense given the importance of PA and his amazing speaking style and his good relationship with Harris. These angry folks here will get over it or get out.

[Demsrule86]

59. The voucher thing is made up lies.

Shapiro supports education. You should support Democrats. This is DU YOU KNOW.

[Emile]

60. Haven't heard about that one.

[epreic01]

27. Beshear cancelled his plans too

They reported he cancelled all his plans for tomorrow too.
I think they had all contenders make themselves available for tomorrow.

[rzemanfl]

31. If I wash socks tonight, I can cancel my plans to wash then tomorrow.

[alarimer]

32. I don't want it to be this guy.

[valleyrogue]

47. Me neither. I hope it's Whitmer and shock the socks off of the media. n/t

[scipan]

49. PA is really really important. I think PA will pay more attention to the VP pick than other states if it's him.

We need PA.

[K19]

53. Shades of 2000

sorry but it will doom the Democrat party if he is the pick, given the war in Gaza, the fact Kamala's husband is already Jewish, and people will refuse to vote for her on these principles, it would be very stupid to pick him as the VP, if Gore had a non Jew on his ticket I would be willing to bet he would have won in 2000 especially since he running against a Born Again Christian

[RandySF]

54. Your concern is noted.

[lapucelle]

69. It seems as if the oppo book on Josh Shapiro has been exposed all over the internet this week,

and it is thin gruel indeed.

It's never too early to start establishing fact-based talking points to counter anti-Democratic Party narratives and storylines concerning a Democratic governor and potential VP candidate.

FACT:

Governor Shapiro line-item vetoed a school voucher provision in the PA state budget.

https://www.cityandstatepa.com/politics/2024/07/shapiros-stance-school-vouchers-comes-under-focus-amid-vp-speculation/398333/

FACT:

Josh Shapiro never compared peaceful pro-Palestinian campus protestors to the KKK.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2024/04/24/the-lead-josh-shapiro-college-protests-israel-hamas-democrats-primary-2024-jake-tapper.cnn

[Cosmocat]

57. Liebermans issue wasnt being jewish

nm

[Emile]

58. Lieberman, Manchin and Sinema all called themselves moderates.

We don't need someone who calls themselves a moderate on the ticket to win a national election.

[DeepWinter]

64. idk

There's an awful lot of moderate Democrats, Independents, swing voters who beg to differ. DU type liberals and progressives are locked in. We're trying to convince and bring over as many to the right of them as possible.

[Emile]

76. I remember their opposition to a potential "public option" within Obamacare.

[honest.abe]

62. "Doom" ?!? LOL. I would bet the farm that you are completely wrong.

Im also sure you have never seen him speak.

[jujubeets]

66. NonZionist jews deserve a voice

This is an aside, but I feel it is important. People can easily be educated to the fact that not all jews, probably the majority in the US, are are not observant of the entirety of the Talmud any more than most Christians have read the entire Old Testament. Same for extreme violent Zionism. Most Zionists are peaceful, they're just not influential. Extremists are noticed and everyone gets painted with the same broad brush. Clearing the national air is important.

Thanks for letting me get that off my chest. I worry for my Jewish friends just living normal everyday lives.

[SocialDemocrat61]

74. Democrat party????

It's name is the Democratic Party!

[honest.abe]

82. So who tends to use the term "Democrat" party?

Makes you wonder the motivation.

[lapucelle]

77. Sorry, but there is no "Democrat" party.

[honest.abe]

81. There's a clue

[lapucelle]

87. Indeed.

[KS Toronado]

78. Welcome to DU.

[Chakaconcarne]

79. Notice that all of the potential VP's are "cancelling plans"....

This is coordinated, IMO, to not forecast the pick and to announce at the last moment so MAGA can't build a narrative before-hand..

Who wants to bet?

[RandySF]

80. Kamala is meeting 1-on-1 with the finalists.

[pinkstarburst]

84. This would be my bet

This is a person she will have to work with for 8 years. There needs to be a good working relationship. She will want to feel confident that she's making the right choice with so much at stake.

[honest.abe]

83. Very well could be. The Harris campaign is very savy.