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malaise

(296,098 posts)
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 12:10 PM Aug 2024

The good news for Florida - will be Tropical Storm Debby - Update now hurricane at landfall

Won’t be a hurricane




WATCHES AND WARNINGS
--------------------
CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:

A Tropical Storm Warning is now in effect for the southwest coast
of the Florida peninsula from East Cape Sable to Bonita Beach.

A Tropical Storm Watch is now in effect for the Florida Keys south
of the Card Sound Bridge including the Dry Tortugas, the southern
coast of the Florida peninsula east of East Cape Sable to the Card
Sound bridge, and for the west coast of the Florida peninsula north
of Bonita Beach to Aripeka.

SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* Southwest coast of the Florida peninsula from East Cape Sable to
Bonita Beach

A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect for...
* The Florida Keys south of the Card Sound Bridge including the Dry
Tortugas
* The southern coast of the Florida peninsula east of East Cape
Sable to the Card Sound Bridge
* The west coast of the Florida peninsula north of Bonita Beach to
Aripeka


https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/



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The good news for Florida - will be Tropical Storm Debby - Update now hurricane at landfall (Original Post) malaise Aug 2024 OP
That model has it exiting the mainland on the Ga/SC border. Ligyron Aug 2024 #1
I noticed that malaise Aug 2024 #2
Probably be a lot of flooding. IrishAfricanAmerican Aug 2024 #3
Looks like you're right malaise Aug 2024 #53
heading to KW in November....better now than then.... bahboo Aug 2024 #4
Tropical storms can be quite destructive RussBLib Aug 2024 #5
True but I'll take a TS over a hurricane every way of the week malaise Aug 2024 #6
Same here. The cone's east turn goes about over my house. This storm's name is allegorical oracle Aug 2024 #9
Well let's hope malaise Aug 2024 #10
Looks like serious flooding will be the major issue here malaise Aug 2024 #25
You're so nice. Thx. I'm high and dry in an area known as an "uplift". No floods, but tornadoes allegorical oracle Aug 2024 #50
Thanks malaise Aug 2024 #51
Somebody Call Walt Nauta! Sane1 Aug 2024 #7
LOL malaise Aug 2024 #8
Yup, the sharpie weather predictor will move it away....nt mitch96 Aug 2024 #11
He might need to malaise Aug 2024 #40
Did you call him malaise Aug 2024 #54
More good news: it misses Jamaica completely. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2024 #12
We got some needed rain malaise Aug 2024 #26
Hoping there's no rapid intensification orthoclad Aug 2024 #13
Might have happened if it moves across to the Western Gulf but not enough time malaise Aug 2024 #14
Lotta warm shallow water between Cuba and Tampa Bay orthoclad Aug 2024 #15
That's a lot of hot water malaise Aug 2024 #16
Look at the Persian Gulf and Red Sea orthoclad Aug 2024 #17
Humans have assumed dominion over malaise Aug 2024 #18
Humans did OK until orthoclad Aug 2024 #19
Yep malaise Aug 2024 #20
Knowing the source makes it fixable orthoclad Aug 2024 #21
You did not hijack the thread malaise Aug 2024 #22
And fixable. orthoclad Aug 2024 #23
Forecast to hurricane landfall now, orthoclad Aug 2024 #47
You were right malaise Aug 2024 #48
WATCH THAT STORM SURGE! orthoclad Aug 2024 #49
Looks like the drift to the West gives it time malaise Aug 2024 #27
Fingers crossed orthoclad Aug 2024 #35
There is ow a hurricane watch in the Panhandle malaise Aug 2024 #39
Crossing over hot water that orthoclad Aug 2024 #43
Florida doesn't usually get hit until late Sep.-Oct kerry-is-my-prez Aug 2024 #24
Reminder - Andrew was August malaise Aug 2024 #29
"usual" might not apply anymore orthoclad Aug 2024 #38
we got a 'cyclone' warning for last nights' thunderstorm. Conjuay Aug 2024 #28
Where are you? malaise Aug 2024 #30
Central Florida. Conjuay Aug 2024 #55
You'll know in the next 10 to 15 hours malaise Aug 2024 #56
I hope it's not bad TommieMommy Aug 2024 #31
A lot of water malaise Aug 2024 #32
I have friend living in Brunswick, Georgia. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2024 #33
Hope the flooding misses them malaise Aug 2024 #36
See you this Friday Debby! GreenWave Aug 2024 #34
Where are you? N/t malaise Aug 2024 #37
I am here! (Sorry MST binge watching again!) GreenWave Aug 2024 #46
It's been raining so much lately though we are going to have some severe flooding due to the saturation EX500rider Aug 2024 #41
Stay safe malaise Aug 2024 #42
Thanks, as always for the storm warnings. Us eastern North Carolina folks GoodRaisin Aug 2024 #44
YW - stay safe malaise Aug 2024 #45
Thanks Malaise, still keeping my eye on this one. mentalsolstice Aug 2024 #52
Latest NHC discussion orthoclad Aug 2024 #57
This will be a flood mess malaise Aug 2024 #58

Ligyron

(8,006 posts)
1. That model has it exiting the mainland on the Ga/SC border.
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 12:20 PM
Aug 2024

Back into the Atlantic off to who knows where?

malaise

(296,098 posts)
6. True but I'll take a TS over a hurricane every way of the week
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 01:12 PM
Aug 2024

This one should be about 50mph. Rain will be the issue

allegorical oracle

(6,480 posts)
9. Same here. The cone's east turn goes about over my house. This storm's name is
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 01:46 PM
Aug 2024

ironic. In 2012, a TS Debby went over the same area of Florida. A couple of major roads stayed flooded and closed for months. One small town was under about 8-10 ft of water for many days.

Have two hopes: that this earliest storm doesn't set up a "training" effect that will take later storms on the same route, and that the wind stays tolerably quiet -- I have a driveway lined in trees. And am not handy with a chainsaw.

malaise

(296,098 posts)
25. Looks like serious flooding will be the major issue here
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 08:15 AM
Aug 2024
https://cbs12.com/news/local/gov-ron-desantis-issues-a-state-of-emergency-for-54-florida-counties-florida-august-1-2024

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (CBS12) — Gov. Ron DeSantis has declared a state of emergency due to severe weather conditions.

According to DeSantis' office, a total of 54 counties are under a state of emergency. Palm Beach County was not listed.

allegorical oracle

(6,480 posts)
50. You're so nice. Thx. I'm high and dry in an area known as an "uplift". No floods, but tornadoes
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 06:24 PM
Aug 2024

scare me.

Happy that you brought up DeSantis. He didn't declare an emergency for 13 Fla counties. Miami-Dade, Broward ...and Palm Beach (guess who lives there). Others are tucked somewhat safely in the mid-state areas.

Problem is, DeSantis is SO inept and his staff is SO inept, it could've been accidental. But he made sure Collier County was included -- the home territory of Sean Hannity and Rick Scott. So one would've though PBeach would've been included.

(After the fact, counties can be added by FEMA for assistance, tho.)

Malaise, you're a treasure....

malaise

(296,098 posts)
51. Thanks
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 06:37 PM
Aug 2024

This looks like a watery mess for Florida. Stay safe
Nothing you post about DeathSentence is a surprise.

Sane1

(214 posts)
7. Somebody Call Walt Nauta!
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 01:42 PM
Aug 2024

Somebody should call Walt Nauta and tell him to get out the tarps to protect them boxes!

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
13. Hoping there's no rapid intensification
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 04:14 PM
Aug 2024

I think the Gulf is pretty warm.

How's the wind shear?

malaise

(296,098 posts)
14. Might have happened if it moves across to the Western Gulf but not enough time
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 04:33 PM
Aug 2024

Could get close to Cat1 but not much more for Florida this time.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
15. Lotta warm shallow water between Cuba and Tampa Bay
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 04:41 PM
Aug 2024

I hope it stays mild and churns the water surface good, mixing that top stratum. It will just miss the peak hot water.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
17. Look at the Persian Gulf and Red Sea
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 04:51 PM
Aug 2024

The heat index/wet bulb temp is likely killing people.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
19. Humans did OK until
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 04:58 PM
Aug 2024

industrialism and capitalism.
The few at the top have done this, since the coal-fired steam engine powered profits.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
21. Knowing the source makes it fixable
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 06:23 PM
Aug 2024

If we take the enormous, bloated profit out of the equation, then we don't need to spew so much filth.



How much does that bottom 50 contribute to our problems, do you think? Compared to the massive consumption/wealth of the top percentages?

"Enough is a feast". We could be secure but not bloated in our housing and food and medicine.

(apologies if I've hijacked the thread, but I do believe I'm addressing a root cause of hurricanes.)

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
43. Crossing over hot water that
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 02:52 PM
Aug 2024

could lead to bombogenesis, spinning up rapidly in a short time. Maybe wind shear will keep that down.

The coastline there is conducive to storm surge. The shape of the bay will help the right-hand side of the storm to blow water north and be trapped at the peak of the bay.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bend_(Florida)

Due to the width of the adjacent continental shelf (over 150 kilometers (93 mi)), low gradient slope of the coast (1:5000), and shelter from the usual wind direction of storms, the Big Bend Coast is generally subject to low wave energy, but it is subject to storm surges.[8][9][10][11]

kerry-is-my-prez

(10,281 posts)
24. Florida doesn't usually get hit until late Sep.-Oct
Fri Aug 2, 2024, 07:32 PM
Aug 2024

The Gulf water is warmer so we’re going to have a long Hurricane season.

malaise

(296,098 posts)
29. Reminder - Andrew was August
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 08:28 AM
Aug 2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Florida_hurricanes

Of the major hurricanes to hit Florida , nine were before September although I think your point may be valid overall.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
38. "usual" might not apply anymore
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 12:55 PM
Aug 2024

Every year we see records broken. This year was the earliest Cat5 storm, iirc.

The boat is rocking.

Conjuay

(3,067 posts)
28. we got a 'cyclone' warning for last nights' thunderstorm.
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 08:24 AM
Aug 2024

never had one of those issued before. Might be someone hit the wrong button, but I always thought cyclones were a Pacific event.

malaise

(296,098 posts)
30. Where are you?
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 08:29 AM
Aug 2024

This is is a raggedy mess with lots of water.
They should have said tropical cyclone or tropical storm.
Add

Conjuay

(3,067 posts)
55. Central Florida.
Sun Aug 4, 2024, 02:16 PM
Aug 2024

Sorry to take so long to respond, but we are in our third day of “cyclone warnings” and I just don’t understand how this is any different than a normal Florida summer

TommieMommy

(2,900 posts)
31. I hope it's not bad
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 08:30 AM
Aug 2024

I'm in Volusia county so we'll probably get a lot of rain and my street floods. I don't want any more tornados. 🙏

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,897 posts)
33. I have friend living in Brunswick, Georgia.
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 08:41 AM
Aug 2024

I am sure they are aware of the impending storm and are preparing for it. Where they live, there are a lot of marshes, Their subdivision is such that there is drainage for when it rains, but if the marshes get flooded, water can get to their house. I just texted my friend.

EX500rider

(12,582 posts)
41. It's been raining so much lately though we are going to have some severe flooding due to the saturation
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 02:32 PM
Aug 2024

GoodRaisin

(10,922 posts)
44. Thanks, as always for the storm warnings. Us eastern North Carolina folks
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 02:59 PM
Aug 2024

always appreciate the heads ups.

mentalsolstice

(4,654 posts)
52. Thanks Malaise, still keeping my eye on this one.
Sat Aug 3, 2024, 06:41 PM
Aug 2024

We live in the panhandle, so the slightest shift west….fortunately we have a bugout list ready.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
57. Latest NHC discussion
Sun Aug 4, 2024, 04:27 PM
Aug 2024

"Debby will be moving over very warm waters and in a low-vertical
shear environment prior to landfall. Therefore significant
strengthening is likely through tonight, especially if the cyclone
forms a well-defined inner core"
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT4+shtml/041457.shtml?

Low shear, warm water.

Storm surge forecast hasn't changed, peak surge of 6-10 feet.

Rainfall in the low country will be severe.
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT04/refresh/AL0424WPCQPF+gif/154938WPCQPF_sm.gif

malaise

(296,098 posts)
58. This will be a flood mess
Sun Aug 4, 2024, 04:37 PM
Aug 2024

And rain is almost covering the state. And it will be a near Cat 2 at landfall. You were right.

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