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Wont be a hurricane

WATCHES AND WARNINGS
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CHANGES WITH THIS ADVISORY:
A Tropical Storm Warning is now in effect for the southwest coast
of the Florida peninsula from East Cape Sable to Bonita Beach.
A Tropical Storm Watch is now in effect for the Florida Keys south
of the Card Sound Bridge including the Dry Tortugas, the southern
coast of the Florida peninsula east of East Cape Sable to the Card
Sound bridge, and for the west coast of the Florida peninsula north
of Bonita Beach to Aripeka.
SUMMARY OF WATCHES AND WARNINGS IN EFFECT:
A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect for...
* Southwest coast of the Florida peninsula from East Cape Sable to
Bonita Beach
A Tropical Storm Watch is in effect for...
* The Florida Keys south of the Card Sound Bridge including the Dry
Tortugas
* The southern coast of the Florida peninsula east of East Cape
Sable to the Card Sound Bridge
* The west coast of the Florida peninsula north of Bonita Beach to
Aripeka
https://www.tropicaltidbits.com/storminfo/
Ligyron
(8,006 posts)Back into the Atlantic off to who knows where?
malaise
(296,098 posts)The season is just warming up
IrishAfricanAmerican
(4,471 posts)malaise
(296,098 posts)bahboo
(16,953 posts)RussBLib
(10,635 posts)...not much difference between a Cat 1 and a tropical storm.
https://russblib.blogspot.com/?m=1
malaise
(296,098 posts)This one should be about 50mph. Rain will be the issue
allegorical oracle
(6,480 posts)ironic. In 2012, a TS Debby went over the same area of Florida. A couple of major roads stayed flooded and closed for months. One small town was under about 8-10 ft of water for many days.
Have two hopes: that this earliest storm doesn't set up a "training" effect that will take later storms on the same route, and that the wind stays tolerably quiet -- I have a driveway lined in trees. And am not handy with a chainsaw.
malaise
(296,098 posts)lightning does not strike the same place twice.
Stay safe
malaise
(296,098 posts)WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (CBS12) Gov. Ron DeSantis has declared a state of emergency due to severe weather conditions.
According to DeSantis' office, a total of 54 counties are under a state of emergency. Palm Beach County was not listed.
allegorical oracle
(6,480 posts)scare me.
Happy that you brought up DeSantis. He didn't declare an emergency for 13 Fla counties. Miami-Dade, Broward ...and Palm Beach (guess who lives there). Others are tucked somewhat safely in the mid-state areas.
Problem is, DeSantis is SO inept and his staff is SO inept, it could've been accidental. But he made sure Collier County was included -- the home territory of Sean Hannity and Rick Scott. So one would've though PBeach would've been included.
(After the fact, counties can be added by FEMA for assistance, tho.)
Malaise, you're a treasure....
malaise
(296,098 posts)This looks like a watery mess for Florida. Stay safe
Nothing you post about DeathSentence is a surprise.
Sane1
(214 posts)Somebody should call Walt Nauta and tell him to get out the tarps to protect them boxes!
I think youll need a sharpie first to get Mar a Lardo in this cone 😀
mitch96
(15,802 posts)malaise
(296,098 posts)More waves coming
malaise
(296,098 posts)Looks like serious rain across the state
JustABozoOnThisBus
(24,681 posts)Enjoy the calm weather.
malaise
(296,098 posts)😀
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)I think the Gulf is pretty warm.
How's the wind shear?
malaise
(296,098 posts)Could get close to Cat1 but not much more for Florida this time.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)I hope it stays mild and churns the water surface good, mixing that top stratum. It will just miss the peak hot water.

malaise
(296,098 posts)Damn
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)The heat index/wet bulb temp is likely killing people.
malaise
(296,098 posts)our own extinction.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)industrialism and capitalism.
The few at the top have done this, since the coal-fired steam engine powered profits.
What a mess
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)If we take the enormous, bloated profit out of the equation, then we don't need to spew so much filth.

How much does that bottom 50 contribute to our problems, do you think? Compared to the massive consumption/wealth of the top percentages?
"Enough is a feast". We could be secure but not bloated in our housing and food and medicine.
(apologies if I've hijacked the thread, but I do believe I'm addressing a root cause of hurricanes.)
malaise
(296,098 posts)Climate change is real
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)orthoclad
(4,728 posts)with storm surge up to 7 ft in the bay.
malaise
(296,098 posts)Stay safe everyone.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)Seven feet is significant. Storm surge kills.
NWS site https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/214546.shtml?peakSurge#contents
malaise
(296,098 posts)To strengthen slightly.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)malaise
(296,098 posts)
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)could lead to bombogenesis, spinning up rapidly in a short time. Maybe wind shear will keep that down.
The coastline there is conducive to storm surge. The shape of the bay will help the right-hand side of the storm to blow water north and be trapped at the peak of the bay.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bend_(Florida)
Due to the width of the adjacent continental shelf (over 150 kilometers (93 mi)), low gradient slope of the coast (1:5000), and shelter from the usual wind direction of storms, the Big Bend Coast is generally subject to low wave energy, but it is subject to storm surges.[8][9][10][11]
kerry-is-my-prez
(10,281 posts)The Gulf water is warmer so were going to have a long Hurricane season.
malaise
(296,098 posts)Of the major hurricanes to hit Florida , nine were before September although I think your point may be valid overall.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)Every year we see records broken. This year was the earliest Cat5 storm, iirc.
The boat is rocking.
Conjuay
(3,067 posts)never had one of those issued before. Might be someone hit the wrong button, but I always thought cyclones were a Pacific event.
malaise
(296,098 posts)This is is a raggedy mess with lots of water.
They should have said tropical cyclone or tropical storm.
Add
Conjuay
(3,067 posts)Sorry to take so long to respond, but we are in our third day of cyclone warnings and I just dont understand how this is any different than a normal Florida summer
malaise
(296,098 posts)Stay safe
TommieMommy
(2,900 posts)I'm in Volusia county so we'll probably get a lot of rain and my street floods. I don't want any more tornados. 🙏
malaise
(296,098 posts)I too hope there are no tornados
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,897 posts)I am sure they are aware of the impending storm and are preparing for it. Where they live, there are a lot of marshes, Their subdivision is such that there is drainage for when it rains, but if the marshes get flooded, water can get to their house. I just texted my friend.
malaise
(296,098 posts)GreenWave
(12,641 posts)malaise
(296,098 posts)GreenWave
(12,641 posts)SE VA.
EX500rider
(12,582 posts)malaise
(296,098 posts)and watch out for those gators
GoodRaisin
(10,922 posts)always appreciate the heads ups.
malaise
(296,098 posts)Its getting busy in the Atlantic, Caribbean Sea and GOM
mentalsolstice
(4,654 posts)We live in the panhandle, so the slightest shift west .fortunately we have a bugout list ready.
orthoclad
(4,728 posts)"Debby will be moving over very warm waters and in a low-vertical
shear environment prior to landfall. Therefore significant
strengthening is likely through tonight, especially if the cyclone
forms a well-defined inner core"
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT4+shtml/041457.shtml?
Low shear, warm water.
Storm surge forecast hasn't changed, peak surge of 6-10 feet.
Rainfall in the low country will be severe.
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/storm_graphics/AT04/refresh/AL0424WPCQPF+gif/154938WPCQPF_sm.gif
malaise
(296,098 posts)And rain is almost covering the state. And it will be a near Cat 2 at landfall. You were right.