Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

kentuck

(115,615 posts)
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 11:16 AM Aug 2024

How do you think Judge Chutkan will eventually rule on Trump's immunity claims?

I suppose that is partly the reason she has called a meeting for the 16th of this month. She is moving quickly. She has already shot down two of Trump's requests to dismiss the case.

So it seems she is not ready to accept everything, or anything, as "official" duties of the President when it comes to criminal activities, no matter what Trump may have assumed the Supreme Court meant by their ruling.

It appears that a court will hear the evidence in the case and there is plenty. Still, Trump and his lawyers will appeal, eventually back to the Supreme Court. At least, that is my understanding at this time..

Perhaps some legal scholars can further enlighten us about what to expect from Judge Chutkan?

9 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
1. Lying, cheating, selling defense secrets, and trying to overthrow America are all evil
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 11:24 AM
Aug 2024

So she should lock his Felonious republican ass up, and throw the key away.

lees1975

(7,188 posts)
2. The Supreme Court has already displayed its contempt for the Constitution by defying all lower court rulings that were
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 11:30 AM
Aug 2024

based on the law, in issuing this ridiculously ignorant and contemptible statement on presidential immunity. Nothing he did related to January 6th had anything to do with official duties of the President by any legal standard. So I hope she rules in such a way that it will make the Supreme Court look even more partisan and anti-Constitutional than they do now.

It's too bad there's not some way for the people to have the court members who don't follow the Constitution arrested, tried and imprisoned for subverting the Constitution.

kentuck

(115,615 posts)
3. With their "official" duties ruling, I think it was just ambiguous enough...
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 11:38 AM
Aug 2024

...to create time for the felon to make it thru the election. I doubt that Judge Chutkan will waste much time with what is "official" or what is not and will not cut a lot of slack to the felon. It's not a good look to have your nominee facing such charges just before an election.

haele

(15,592 posts)
8. I'm sure the judge has already had staff go through the charges
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 04:03 PM
Aug 2024

And sorted out what is definitely constitutionally official, definitely unofficial, and what needs to be adjudicated.
They've probably also already defined the boundaries as to official, unofficial, and grey areas as tightly as they could per a constitutional argument.
My guess is they're ready to rumble.

Haele

ProfessorGAC

(77,268 posts)
9. Agree On Official Duties
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 04:05 PM
Aug 2024

As all actions were specifically connected to the election, it seems they were associated to his CANDIDACY. They're actions in support of a candidate, not the official actions of the office.
Of course, I'm not talking about fine points of law. Just seems obvious to me that these actions were part of a campaign for a person that lost.
Now, they could try to pass the tale that he needed to act because he was obligated to do something about a rigged election. I think that's weak because they've had 45 months to present evidence & none yet exists.

Hugin

(37,992 posts)
5. It's now obvious that the SCrOTUS ruling on bribery...
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 12:18 PM
Aug 2024

Uh, I mean “gratuity” was front running the Egypt $10 M cash drop to Trump. I thought ipsopostfacto was frowned upon in jurisprudence?

kentuck

(115,615 posts)
7. I think so, too.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 03:53 PM
Aug 2024

The felon is not going to get off that easy, in my opinion. He may delay, but if he loses the election, he may as well leave the country.

Kick in to the DU tip jar?

This week we're running a special pop-up mini fund drive. From Monday through Friday we're going ad-free for all registered members, and we're asking you to kick in to the DU tip jar to support the site and keep us financially healthy.

As a bonus, making a contribution will allow you to leave kudos for another DU member, and at the end of the week we'll recognize the DUers who you think make this community great.

Tell me more...

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»How do you think Judge Ch...