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***BREAKING*** 🔵 Harris 48% (+4) 🔴 Trump 44% (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2024 OP
TSF is going to BLOW! Gaytano70 Aug 2024 #1
In 3 - 2 - 1! ... If people thought he was off the wall before Tadpole Raisin Aug 2024 #8
KABOOM! Gaytano70 Aug 2024 #9
SMELVIS is gonna have a conniption fit. BlueWavePsych Aug 2024 #28
Nice Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #2
How good/reliable is Morning Consult? DFab420 Aug 2024 #3
NOT good.....rated 116th by 538 democratsruletheday Aug 2024 #16
I think that positive poll results likely help to drive the way that people view Harris, wouldn't you agree? Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #18
I hear you Oopsie... democratsruletheday Aug 2024 #25
idk DeepWinter Aug 2024 #26
It does not follow. Torchlight Aug 2024 #38
Read your profile orangecrush Aug 2024 #22
Welcome to DU orangecrush Aug 2024 #19
Thanks, been here for a while but I come and go. DFab420 Aug 2024 #36
Welcome to DU orangecrush Aug 2024 #20
When the hell do they change to likely voters? jimfields33 Aug 2024 #4
Most pollsters change around September democrattotheend Aug 2024 #6
There was one published yesterday (YouGov?). Nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2024 #7
Usually after Labor Day obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #13
Looks like she's ahead. Kingofalldems Aug 2024 #14
With registered voters......... jimfields33 Aug 2024 #15
Oh. Kingofalldems Aug 2024 #37
About time they use likely voters. jimfields33 Aug 2024 #39
Widen that gap and make it stay! oasis Aug 2024 #5
538 polling average is now Harris +1.9 Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #10
Yup -- and we still have the Veep announcement and the DNC Convention obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #12
Mostly true J2... democratsruletheday Aug 2024 #17
The trends are encouraging obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #11
The trends are encouraging zeusdogmom Aug 2024 #21
Younger voters are usually not counted as likely voters kellytore Aug 2024 #23
DemocratSinceBirth.......... Upthevibe Aug 2024 #24
Oh, this one's easy. " fake poll... fake poll!!!" 👏 there you go, that was easy to fix. ashredux Aug 2024 #27
YES!!! osteopath6 Aug 2024 #29
Not good enough... lame54 Aug 2024 #30
State polls in 5-8 states are really all that matter exboyfil Aug 2024 #31
The EC is key - BUT I do think national momentum is critical in convincing TBF Aug 2024 #34
That is a good start coming into August - TBF Aug 2024 #32
This is just the beginning, folks. mwb970 Aug 2024 #33
Let's do this!!! Initech Aug 2024 #35

Tadpole Raisin

(1,977 posts)
8. In 3 - 2 - 1! ... If people thought he was off the wall before
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 01:29 PM
Aug 2024

wait until after her VP selection, convention, and post DNC bounce.

Family and aides better have EMS standing by (or a washcloth at least).

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
18. I think that positive poll results likely help to drive the way that people view Harris, wouldn't you agree?
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 02:40 PM
Aug 2024

Even if the poll isn't the most accurate or respected... not everyone who skims headlines realizes that. It's human nature to want to support a winner... so I'm not going to take a dump on ANY good news for Harris (regardless of how the polling org is ranked).

I welcome good news EVERY time, any day of the week, by ANY polling organization.

democratsruletheday

(1,880 posts)
25. I hear you Oopsie...
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 02:49 PM
Aug 2024

but someone asked how high or in this case low that morning consult was and when I checked on 538 I was kinda bummed out that they're ranked 116th. BUT....as Johnny2X has reported the 538 average is up to almost a 2pt. Harris lead when ALL polls are averaged out. That's without a VP or convention yet. So....there ya go.

 

DeepWinter

(931 posts)
26. idk
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 02:51 PM
Aug 2024

Persuasive polls rather than predictive polls gave us 2016.

I'm still uncomfortable with all the cheerleading I'm seeing we're going to wash, rinse, repeat all over again, right up until the final hour.

Torchlight

(6,830 posts)
38. It does not follow.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 06:04 PM
Aug 2024

Enthusiam does not temper votes. Indeed, its corollary is more often true than not.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
4. When the hell do they change to likely voters?
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 01:22 PM
Aug 2024

Registered voters is too broad. They need to change this yesterday.

democrattotheend

(12,011 posts)
6. Most pollsters change around September
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 01:25 PM
Aug 2024

LV screens aren't considered reliable before then. But that may get moved back a little by some pollsters as early voting becomes more prevalent.

Johnny2X2X

(24,208 posts)
10. 538 polling average is now Harris +1.9
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 01:56 PM
Aug 2024

It's been over a week since a single poll had Trump ahead and those were not well known pollsters.

In the states, it's the same trend, polling averages in the key states:
PA HArris +1.0
MI Harris +2.0
WI Harris +1.6

GA is now Trump +0.8

And New Hampshire and Maine are back to solid blue. She's narrowed the gap in NC. If the election were this week, she'd win.

obamanut2012

(29,369 posts)
12. Yup -- and we still have the Veep announcement and the DNC Convention
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 02:06 PM
Aug 2024

Which will be a bump, especially if Beyonce is there and if a bunch of GOP come onto the stage in support.

Thanks for the info, Johnny.

democratsruletheday

(1,880 posts)
17. Mostly true J2...
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 02:37 PM
Aug 2024

but still way too close for comfort obviously. Sure hope she gets a good VP/convention bounce we're all hoping for.

zeusdogmom

(1,142 posts)
21. The trends are encouraging
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 02:43 PM
Aug 2024

But in the end it is still the electoral college numbers that count. I am an optimist at heart - however there is a stubborn, deep red swath of states smack dab in the middle of the country and along the southern coast that are mighty hard to turn toward blue.

kellytore

(261 posts)
23. Younger voters are usually not counted as likely voters
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 02:45 PM
Aug 2024

so they are not represented as well in registered voter polls. If the younger voters come out for VP Harris as they probably will we could be seeing a huge blue wave.

ashredux

(2,928 posts)
27. Oh, this one's easy. " fake poll... fake poll!!!" 👏 there you go, that was easy to fix.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 02:51 PM
Aug 2024

Trump will just yell fake polling, fake election, fake, fake…. that’s all he’s got left.

lame54

(39,771 posts)
30. Not good enough...
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 03:27 PM
Aug 2024

How the fuck does he keep such a high number?

Even if we win there are too many brain dead zombies roaming the country

exboyfil

(18,359 posts)
31. State polls in 5-8 states are really all that matter
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 03:28 PM
Aug 2024

And even then how valid or they in today's climate. It is likely to be a coin flip election just like the last two. Something nauseating to consider - Trump will probably have more votes for President than any man who ever lived (at least until someone loses either his first or his second election to be President).

Trump lost the popular vote by 4.5%, but he was around 44,000 votes from tying the EV and winning in 2020 (Arizona, Wisconsin, and Georgia).

TBF

(36,669 posts)
34. The EC is key - BUT I do think national momentum is critical in convincing
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 03:45 PM
Aug 2024

swing-state voters that they are joining a winning ticket. Kamala's "we're not going back" should resonate with many, and hopefully that with the enthusiasm will bring folks aboard (and interested enough to show up to vote!)

TBF

(36,669 posts)
32. That is a good start coming into August -
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 03:42 PM
Aug 2024

folks coming back from vacation, returning to work & school

VP pick should be exciting & the tour to come should keep momentum going!

mwb970

(12,150 posts)
33. This is just the beginning, folks.
Mon Aug 5, 2024, 03:43 PM
Aug 2024

trump will retain the 33% who are MAGA morons, but not many more.

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