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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBreaking: The Supreme Court has refused to delay Donald Trump's sentencing until after the election.
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wryter2000
(47,940 posts)They didn't rescue the a-hole?
I can't wait for the sentencing and to see what Judge Chutkin is going to do with her case.
Tweedy
(1,284 posts)I know the rightwing Court has been inventing judicial doctrines out of thin air and corrupting the meaning (once more, the supremes did this before too) of the civil war amendments for some time now
People are, shall we say it? waking up to the fact that some billionaire wanna be inquisitors bought themselves a handful of justices. Six of them admitted wanting those sweet, sweet gratuities to start flowing their way.
This court needs to lie low
Have a switch in time that saves 9
(Or at least wait until our heads are turned watching trump and company actually defecate on something sacred to us 🇺🇸 again )
Dont you know?
Justice Gorsuchs threat yesterday was wicked weird and right out of Scarface. I bet that is one of his favorite movies.
Bettie
(19,680 posts)I figured they would rescue their pet dickhead.
Butterflylady
(4,584 posts)By anyone that has a brain. He gave orange face his blessing on immunity, so he doesn't want it to look like the court is rumps sugar daddy.
Warpy
(114,597 posts)and a few USSC clerks as to what the judge was considering.
Sending that bloated wannabe Hitler to prison for essentially a white collar crime was always a long shot, even when that white collar crime was dedicated to suppressing damaging information during an election, raising the level of smarminess. It's still white collar, and that kind of crime has never been taken seriously enough in this country.
He'll get fines, probabion, and community service (which he will not do).
Mossfern
(4,713 posts)Jim Treffinger, the Essex County Executive got a one year sentence in Federal prison.
On May 31, 2003, shortly before his trial was scheduled to begin, Treffinger pleaded guilty to one count of obstruction of justice and one count of mail fraud, admitting that he had solicited an illegal $15,000 campaign contribution in exchange for a county contract, and that he had placed two people on the Essex County payroll who instead worked on his 2000 Senate campaign. The remaining counts were dismissed as part of the plea agreement.[21][22] On October 17, he was sentenced to 13 months in prison. Treffinger had sought a lighter sentence, saying he was "a new man, a better man" after converting from Catholicism to Baptism and joining an evangelical Baptist congregation in Bloomfield after his arrest.[23][24][25][26]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_W._Treffinger
Warpy
(114,597 posts)and they should, slince it looks like he passed the payment off as a legal expense, he might see some jail time. The IRS doesn't play around.
However, they're not involved. Yet.
misanthrope
(9,484 posts)After the stunt they pulled with the immunity ruling, I was expecting them to push off the sentencing date.
birdographer
(2,937 posts)AncientOfDays
(262 posts)I think some actual jail time is needed for tRump to understand the charges and the concept of the Rule of Law.
MyOwnPeace
(17,546 posts)But yeah, I agree - he does deserve ACTUAL JAIL TIME!
democratsruletheday
(1,875 posts)lock him up for the love of god....once and for all. It would be a riot if he just got 30 days in the slam. Friggin' cretin. In all seriousness, I'd take a tether as that would emasculate him even further than losing to Harris
MrWowWow
(1,461 posts)Last edited Tue Aug 6, 2024, 07:54 PM - Edit history (2)
3 hots, a cot and a Jeffrey Dahmerisque Bunk Buddy for CONVICTED FELON tramp! Who Loves Ya Now Baby?
cojoel
(1,027 posts)is the right place. He is a convict who belongs in prison.
enid602
(9,681 posts)The Manhattan Psychiatric Center might be the right choice, given that its maximum security, and has so much expertise in dealing with the criminally insane.
Stargleamer
(2,720 posts)Think. Again.
(22,456 posts)FalloutShelter
(14,452 posts)They've been blowing through every single off-ramp, but it becomes more clear with each passing day that the GOP is doomed to extinction and it's time to cut bait.
JMHO
Ishoutandscream2
(6,783 posts)Probably part of their thinking?
moonscape
(5,714 posts)optimistic. Threw us a bone, thats all. He wont get jail time, it wont matter, and theyll resume their corruption forthwith.
MyOwnPeace
(17,546 posts)but I suspect you're not. But I will give extra bonus point for using 'forthwith!'
moonscape
(5,714 posts)lindysalsagal
(22,903 posts)Ex-con for anything?
Maru Kitteh
(31,749 posts)The state of basic civics education in this country is at least partly to blame.
Zoomie1986
(1,213 posts)Most states require teaching it. It's like anything else, though. Teachers can teach it, but they can't make any student retain the info.
MyOwnPeace
(17,546 posts)being 'guided' by ignorant idiots that won political positions based on their own bias and ignorance (yeah, LACK of education!).
Meadowoak
(6,606 posts)gopiscrap
(24,720 posts)execute the the orange traitor
MyOwnPeace
(17,546 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,172 posts)The walls are closing in on their crimes.
h2ebits
(999 posts)It would give the Republican Party a chance to remove him as he is losing popularity by the day. That would also throw the General Election into complete chaos--and we, as a Democratic Republic, may be looking at civil war before we can get back to a semblance of "normalcy."
obamanut2012
(29,357 posts)He is a felon, convicted of 34 felons lol. He has been declared a rapist is a suit he lost.
They already have chances to remove him.
Maraya1969
(23,494 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,172 posts)They will be first in line for the guillotines.
I seriously doubt the SC will do anything which endangers themselves.
Maraya1969
(23,494 posts)It is not the north vs. the south with some arbitrary line of demarcation. It would be neighbors vs other neighbors.
NoRethugFriends
(3,749 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,172 posts)They stand to lose a very lucrative and luxurious lifestyle.
One they thought they had nailed down for life.
And will face shame every time they walk out the door.
NoRethugFriends
(3,749 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,172 posts)The times they are a changing.
ProudMNDemocrat
(20,881 posts)By Judge Merchan.
House detention with no access to technology will not cut it. For CF#45 will find a way to break the rules.
Plus, he will lose on appeal.
kentuck
(115,400 posts)That the Court might refuse to get involved?
onenote
(46,135 posts)But New York made a strong case that the alleged injury wasn't to Missouri, it was really to Trump and, in any event, the injury itself was speculative since no sentence has been handed down yet and might not include imprisonment. And the gag order doesn't prevent Trump from talking about the case.
Mz Pip
(28,443 posts)can the judge move up the sentencing date? September 18 seems a long way off.
Zoomie1986
(1,213 posts)He knew the idiot would file a mountain of appeals. This way, everything gets worked out before he lays down the sentence. Doing it that way actually means that TSF will be less likely to wriggle free of whatever sentence he gets.
Or it could be that he set the date so far ahead because he was tired of looking at the tangerine toddler and wanted a good long break from him. Who could blame him if that were the case?
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,307 posts)... that is what I explained to those asking me at the time concerning Der Dingleberry appealing everything... Merchan considered that when setting sentencing date.
CaptainTruth
(8,198 posts)Kid Berwyn
(24,313 posts)
WarGamer
(18,603 posts)The NY case is on hold due to Presidential Immunity issues.
Merchan has said hell rule on the defenses requests on Sept. 6 and will sentence Trump on Sept. 18, if such is still necessary.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-immunity-hush-money-new-york-conviction-b67bafcb92b287933c6e6d54fc122117
JoseBalow
(9,459 posts)I don't trust those scRotus hacks one bit
claudette
(5,455 posts)Zoomie1986
(1,213 posts)It's simply not an option for the class of felony involved.
claudette
(5,455 posts)it was wishful thinking on my part 😊
Dem4life1970
(1,056 posts)...and he should serve some time along with a fine. The fact that he is on the ballot again is sickening considering he cheated in 2016 as this case shows (imagine if Obama or Hillary had participated in a hush money, catch and kill, scheme right before the elections in '08, '12, or '16) and is a soon to be adjudicated insurrectionist (in the coming years, assuming he loses in November).
Joinfortmill
(21,111 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,073 posts)Attilatheblond
(8,863 posts)something that would cause him to pull out, or be thrown out of the race. When JD Vance, a younger, malleable, ambitious man devoid of much actual talent beyond being anointed by Theil, was put on the ticket to keep the MAGAs amused, I figured Trump might well be gone before October.
Not gonna be surprised myself.
jcgoldie
(12,046 posts)It doesnt matter what comes out or happens.
Attilatheblond
(8,863 posts)One more legal setback for TCF today, this one in Arizona re the fake elector scheme
Jenna Ellis is AZ AG's flipper
https://www.azag.gov/press-release/attorney-general-mayes-announces-cooperation-agreement-fake-electors-case]
"This agreement represents a significant step forward in our case," said Attorney General Mayes. "I am grateful to Ms. Ellis for her cooperation with our investigation and prosecution. Her insights are invaluable and will greatly aid the State in proving its case in court. As I stated when the initial charges were announced, I will not allow American democracy to be undermined it is far too important. Todays announcement is a win for the rule of law."
Ms. Ellis had previously been charged with nine felonies including fraud, forgery and conspiracy. The case against the other 17 defendants remains ongoing.
MyOwnPeace
(17,546 posts)He'll NEVER pull out - and there's NO Repuke or even 'old' GOP people that have the courage or smarts to push him out. They know he'll destroy each individual and take ALL of the GOP money for himself, leaving them in worse shape than the people he sends away from the 'Border Crisis' - with no money, no family, and no home.
And he calls that 'Making America Great Again..........'
icnorth
(1,045 posts)is to me, an act in self preservation. I think they read the tea leaves and it doesn't look good for the chosen one. As the numbers keep coming in, the possibility the Dems could end up in total control is starting to shape up. That prospect, after the Gorsuch veiled threat, and the Alito and Thomas revelations might focus their thoughts on retribution coming down the pike. As for penalty, minimum 3 years, same as Michael Cohen. Leave some room for the sentences in the cases yet to come.
Zoomie1986
(1,213 posts)Because the jurisdictions are different. Cohen was convicted on federal charges. and TSF on state charges.
I don't know what he'll get, but I doubt it will be three years in the slammer.
LoisB
(12,992 posts)world wide wally
(21,836 posts)And NO Interviews!
LoisB
(12,992 posts)Zoomie1986
(1,213 posts)For felonies that are barely more than misdemeanors?
That won't happen. Not for such a minor felony. It would be like putting someone on life without parole for shoplifting a pack of gum.
LoisB
(12,992 posts)most likely be assessed a huge fine.
paleotn
(22,182 posts)You don't think this actually had anything to do with rule of law, do you?
Dan
(5,155 posts)Starting with Bidens ideas on the SC and Harriss agreement with him.
Thinking that if Harris wins the election - then Roberts wants some negotiating room .
I think that the America people are ready for the SC to be reined in
and if we the people get the Senate, House and White House - I think that not only term limits but we will see the removal of some of the Justices. Either by congressional action by impeachment but by legislative acts.
And as Uncle Donny says - hopefully we wont see people exercising their 2nd Amendment rights.
IMO.
Zoomie1986
(1,213 posts)after an impeachment. We'll be lucky to have the same number of seats we do now.
Dan
(5,155 posts)Share some of the same sentiments that the left has?
harumph
(3,258 posts)due to their complete lack of ethics - and the democrats may go nuclear on them.
Waterboys for billionaires - that's all they are.
jmowreader
(53,169 posts)In George Orwell's "Nineteen Eighty-Four," Room 101 was the place they sent you when you couldn't be broken otherwise. In there was "the thing you feared the most." In Winston Smith's case, Room 101 was full of rats.
The thing Trump fears most is lack of adoration. You could put Trump in a nice clean doublewide trailer inside Sing Sing's perimeter fence - from looking at Google Maps overhead of the facility there are several good places for one - never let anyone in there to worship at his feet, and he'd be thoroughly punished. Even if you gave him a nice little putting green for recreation he'd be punished worse than anything else you could do to him.
brush
(61,033 posts)Even they couldn't give him yet anotherr break.
Now the rethugs may have an incarcerated convict at the top of their ticket.
Hahahahahahhahaha!
GiqueCee
(4,201 posts)... that evil sonofabitch go down in flames, and the piss on the ashes. Trump is the worst thing that has happened to this country in living memory.
lees1975
(7,040 posts)Yes, this is an unusual situation, a former President commits crimes like he doesn't care about the law, and it poses difficulties sentencing him because of the secret service protection he requires. Secret service have to go with him wherever he goes anyway, the rest of us don't have that kind of protection and would have to take our chances. We've already resigned ourselves to the fact that our Constitution has been torn up and thrown away by this Supreme Court. Let him serve some jail time, he deserves it. House arrest won't cut it.
GenThePerservering
(3,342 posts)and barring any posting on any social media, including mouthpieces and sockpuppets, would drive him right into Bellevue.
0rganism
(25,632 posts)oh the heinzmanity
milestogo
(23,066 posts)For the rest of his miserable life.
Eliot Rosewater
(34,285 posts)where he has to watch a panel of Black Women on video explaining to him why he is a felon and he is required to sit there 5 hours a day everyday the rest of his life and LOOK at them while they tell him what a FELON he is!