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Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 12:21 PM Aug 2024

Rachel's warning

Last week, and again last night, Rachel reported that Trump and the MAGAs are not counting on winning the presidency. They are focused on stealing it.

In many states, the positions of electors, (the people who certify votes in each county of a state), are now filled by MAGAs. If Harris/Walz win, these electors will not certify them, which will throw the election into chaos in many states. Theoretically, thie election could end up being decided by the congress, or the courts. And if the courts get involved, you just know it will end up in the SCOTUS. We saw a Supreme Court appoint a president in 2000, (George W. Bush), by stopping the vote recount in Florida. Do you really have to guess what our current Supreme Court would do?

Democrats are aware of this, but it must become general knowledge. Everyone needs to know what they're up to. Widespread knowledge will help stop their plan.

I believe that Kamala Harris and Tim Walz are going to win this election in a blowout. And a Democratic House and Senate will ride to power along with them.

But stay aware, and tell everyone you know, about the Republican plot to steal this election. Widespread public awareness is a powerful weapon that can be used to stop them.

On Edit: Click below for the video of the segment of her show on which she discusses this issue.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/maddow-pro-trump-administrators-are-already-in-place-to-subvert-the-2024-election-216510533698

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Tbone421

(40 posts)
2. Can anyone explain.....
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 12:24 PM
Aug 2024

Can anyone explain what exactly happens with all of the other things on the ballot if Republicans try stalling or refusing to certify the votes? Can they do this for the presidential election without impacting all of the other races on the same ballot? If the other ballot items are impacted, what exactly happens?

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
6. In Arizona there was one county that tried it
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 12:53 PM
Aug 2024

The supervisors were arrested and the ballots were certified. I believe they wouldn't have counted the ballots at all had they not been certified, and that would've tipped a couple races to the Democrats.
Right now the important swing states are Dem. controlled, and the counties that are threatening to not certify are all red counties. This cannot be terribly well thought out.
Also remember that the TFG courts almost unanimously rejected 60-odd challenges from TFG - including the same SCOTUS.

Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
7. Don't know, but I've edited the OP to add the
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 12:55 PM
Aug 2024

segment of her show in which she discusses the issue. Go up to the OP and click on the link.

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
3. The Bible warns against thievery. repubes don't care.
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 12:24 PM
Aug 2024

If it takes sins and crimes, the repubes will do it.

As they demonstrate repeatedly, repubes are weirdly immoral, but love to claim that they are "holier than thou,"

Americans won't swallow that crap

travelingthrulife

(5,179 posts)
9. They are on a mission for God
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 12:59 PM
Aug 2024

So the end justifies the means. Their God is very weak apparently and needs a lot of help.

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
14. You have a problem here
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 02:46 PM
Aug 2024

Jacob steals the birthright of his twin brother through an extremely dodgy subterfuge.

Rachel stole images of God from her own father, without punishment.

The deity told the Jews in Egypt to 'borrow' and 'spoil' from the Egyptians for the Exodus. It's a common trick for criminals to 'borrow' something and then leave town to avoid paying for what they take. It's exactly the same thing as stealing.

The deity told tthe Benjamites to kidnap (steal) and rape the women of Shiloh to force them into marriage.

At least two of the Gospels discuss Jesus having some minions acquire a donkey that doesn't belong to any of them.Two of the four accounts (Matthew and Luke) are suspiciously silent on whether or not they ever got the consent to do so.

So the guy in the sky seems not to mind too much about stealing when his flock need something they can't otherwise get. I mean, if it's okay for Jacob and Rachel and even Jesus himself to do it, then why would you think the Republicans wouldn't consider it okay for them to do it, too?



keepthemhonestO

(628 posts)
4. Right
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 12:25 PM
Aug 2024

Hopefully this will become common knowledge like project 2025 quickly got around. I hope there are enough safeguards in place to override their attempts.

Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
5. We have Marc Elias!
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 12:25 PM
Aug 2024

The greatest election lawyer going! What was he, 59 for 59 in 2020?

They can try their shenanigans, but he's a bulldog in court!

Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
13. He was a guest on her show last night.
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 01:31 PM
Aug 2024

I've added a link to the OP of the segment of her show that covers this issue, and in which she interviews him.

JCMach1

(29,202 posts)
8. This strategy requires it to be 1 or 2 states close...
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 12:58 PM
Aug 2024

Of course some will try it anyway just out of bitterness (GA???).

I totally believe them when they say shite like they did.

eppur_se_muova

(41,947 posts)
12. If a state fails to certify its results in time, is it recorded as "not voting" when the Electoral College meets ??
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 01:19 PM
Aug 2024

I really don't know. The EC is a mystery to most of us.

I hope so -- if the voters of a state see their votes didn't count because of election deniers, the MAGAts may finally get the violent reaction they've been trying to provoke -- only they'll be on the receiving end of it !

LetMyPeopleVote

(179,869 posts)
15. I am nervous. Rachel did a great job explaining the risk
Tue Aug 6, 2024, 04:28 PM
Aug 2024





Truth teller Rachel #Maddow delivers a sobering warning: when Trump named & thanked 3 GA election board members at his rally - he’s telling them exactly what he wants them to do: block the certification of the election, because if a county doesn’t certify the election, its state can’t certify the election, preventing the vote count & potentially throwing the decision to the Supreme Court or the GOP controlled House - that are both in Trump’s pocket. Another coup in plain sight.
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