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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCheato knows he's losing and this was the biggest tell:
He lied that the Justice Dept. wanted to indict Hillary while he was president (no evidence of this of course) but that he was very protective of her and didn't think the wife of a former President should go to jail.
So basically, he knows Kamala is going to win and is trying to work the refs so that Kamala will let him off without jail time. He's so transactional and stupid and he thinks Kamala is too.
Skittles
(171,717 posts)I just DREAM of the day I don't have to see him or hear him or read about him on a daily basis.....I just want him GONE.
Volaris
(11,705 posts)Anything less is letting him off easy, and if (for whatever reason) he gets to have a phone and Twitter in prison, so much the better that he lets us know just how fucking miserable he is every day till he dies.
Jarqui
(10,909 posts)BattleRow
(2,450 posts)the comb over!
THATS must see T.V.
Jarqui
(10,909 posts)Akakoji
(520 posts)No body padding, either.
lostnfound
(17,520 posts)He really needs to go to jail for the documents case, first and foremost.
not fooled
(6,680 posts)Especially because he came close (and I won't count my chickens before they hatch so we are still in some peril) to ending even the flawed quasi-democracy we have in this country. The list of crimes is endless...no pass for this crook.
brewens
(15,359 posts)I picture the whole Trump klan huddled in a crumbling MAGA-Lardo. Not even able to leave because they can barely afford security for their compound.
People fly drones over to harass them and show their misery. Overgrown golf course and algae contaminated pool. Kimberly might even try and cut herself another deal and get out of there.
Bongo Prophet
(2,753 posts)Skittles
(171,717 posts)I'm just saying him being out of the news would be HEAVEN...
Fritz Walter
(4,370 posts)...his obsequious sons will visit him and spread the lies on his behalf. The first time he tries to incite violence (through them) should result in complete isolation. And swift prosecution of the messengers.
AltairIV
(1,043 posts)But ... I also want him in jail .
Island Blue
(6,287 posts)to play golf all day on his own damn golf course & eat unlimited cheeseburders in the club house - as long as I never have to see him or hear from him ever again, Ill be fine with that.
TBF
(36,671 posts)I certainly agree too.
I don't care where he goes, I just want him gone.
That day is coming and soon
kimbutgar
(27,248 posts)He is one evil selfish MFer. Who needs major karma inflicted upon him.
hay rick
(9,605 posts)Dulcinea
(10,094 posts)...when he LOSES again, he needs to go away & stay away. The only reasons he needs to be in the news EVER again are:
1. He's convicted of more crimes;
2. He's going to prison;
3. He has finally shuffled off this mortal coil.
One of these will definitely happen. I'll crack a bottle of Moet Chandon when it does.
NNadir
(38,051 posts)bucolic_frolic
(55,143 posts)It was his criteria for debates.
Raven123
(7,797 posts)TwilightZone
(28,836 posts)He's talking about himself. As others noted, he's trying to set the stage for Harris to pardon him.
peppertree
(23,344 posts)The queen is in the counting house, counting out the money.
And then asking the doctors: "How much longer do you think ze fat bastard has, dahlink?"
"From how he looked at today's presser, not much longer m'am."
Duncanpup
(15,651 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,605 posts)Otherwise how could we trust it really happened?
His "doctor": "Trump look fine."
Duncanpup
(15,651 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,277 posts)He hates his opponents, and he would love to hand out any cruelty to a Dem.
He is angling for a pardon from Kamala.
Dave Bowman
(7,166 posts)Irish_Dem
(81,277 posts)And stay out of it.
senseandsensibility
(24,978 posts)That's all I ask.
Irish_Dem
(81,277 posts)Trump is a serial rapist, traitor, felon, insurrectionist, etc.
Way too many crimes to pardon.
She is all about rule of law.
MadameButterfly
(4,039 posts)This is a whole different level of crime. Nixon went away and didn't bother us anymore. Trump isn't capable of that.
Irish_Dem
(81,277 posts)The depth and width of Trump's crimes are astounding.
There can be no pardon.
And yes, Nixon went quietly into the night and bothered no one.
Trump will keep trying to burn it all down as long as he can.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)where he is TOTALLY removed from any and all contact with society, until the day he dies, is:
COLORADO SUPERMAX PRISON...................
Cells are basic, with stool table and bed made out of concrete. Double cell doors, soundproof along with the cell so they cannot yell or communicate with any other prisoners. All meals are shoved thru the door. Once a day, two guards escort him to the shower or a small walled in area for exercise. The walls of that area are very high, so he can only see the sky, same for the tiny window in his cell.
He has no contact with the outside world. No Cell Phone, No Computer, No Email, etc etc etc. Rarely allowed visitors, and then only immediate family. Etc Etc Etc.....
Supermax was designed for the top worst criminals, that qualified to literally be removed from society forever.
The guy that blew up the Federal Center, Timothy McVeigh got sent there. Six months later, he begged the Judge to give him the death penalty. He said Supermax was far worse than death. The Judge obliged him........
Irish_Dem
(81,277 posts)He is a serious and dangerous career criminal.
His theft of classified documents is the worst national security breach in US history.
He will burn down this country to get what he wants.
He poses a severe threat to the people of this country as long as he is free.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)or sold to other countries, including the Saudis
will be the gift that keeps on giving for a long time to come.
Other allies of ours had shared their intelligence with the U.S. so he sold THEIR Intel also. It will be a long time before those other countries Intelligence communities share anything with us........
Irish_Dem
(81,277 posts)It is incalculable.
Yes the damage will be significant and long term.
Yes our allies cannot trust us.
This is only one piece of the fall out.
But a serious one.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)being "turned out" by Cheney/Rumsfeld..............Anyone IN THE WORLD who had contact with her, was history within 24 hours, including a bunch of other CIA agents. A lot of people around the world would die, just so Cheney/Rumsfeld could get even for Plame's husband speaking publicly about the lie that Saddam had Yellowcake Uranium.......
Irish_Dem
(81,277 posts)Put lives in danger. Yes some folks were killed or disappeared.
Soon after Trump took office there was an uptick in CIA asset deaths and missing.
We know why.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)what Jared gave them for the TWO BILLION dollar grubstake in a non-existent corporation, and with him having absolutely Zero experience in high finance......His and Ivanka's only experience with large sums of money, was the un-fathomable amount of money the two of them grifted from controlling the entire PPE inventory in the U.S and selling it to the highest bidders or giving it to Political Supporter's states..........Maybe he and Ivanka "Off Shored" their revenue from the PPE sales with the Saudi's and they were just money laundering the money back to him.
My bet is, that Jared gave the head of the Saudi Government, the ENTIRE intelligence of the U.S. Military and other NATO country's Military.... That Intel was a complete analysis of the U.S and other countries military capabilities, location of weapons, types of weapons, numbers of weapons, etc etc. The Saudis would be particularly interested of every country's military, etc with in a two thousand mile radius of the Saudi's.....
Irish_Dem
(81,277 posts)Jared has no investment skills to the tune of $2B.
Good point, Jared we know had been systematically embezzling and defrauding the US gov't and
taxpayer. Was he sending that money to a Saudi bank under the protection of the Saudi Govt?
Who then laundered it for him via the fake business deal?
And/or what did he give to the Saudis? For that kind of money it had to be along the lines you suggest.
Serious, critical intelligence information.
Probably some of both, and more wrong doing we cannot even imagine.
Jared was the money man, the bag man I believe. He knew right away that the Trump voters could be fleeced, so he monetized them. Then monetized the federal gov't too.
I wish someday the truth would come out about him and Ivanka.
She was in on it too.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)During the Trump occupation of the white house something Jared did.
Jared made a horrifically bad investment in real estate like his Father In Law is known for.
Jared had a Million and a half dollar payment due in a week, and he didn't have any money.
Jared flew down, on the taxpayers expense, and with a full SS detail to visit the Head of the Saudi Family, and delivered a small briefcase, Then he immediately went back to the U.S.................. Out of nowhere, he suddenly had a Mill and a half to make the payment............
What did he deliver in the briefcase/????
The next week, certain members of the Saudi Family, and high ranking officials in the Saudi Government went missing, never to appear again.......
Jared had obviously delivered to the head of the Saudi Family, all the intelligence available from the U.S. Intel and other allied countries Intel, reports on who were faithful to the head of the Saudi's government, and which ones were not loyal to him........
And recall that the people who give Security Clearances in the U.S. rejected Jared, Ivanka, and even Donald..........Trump overruled the objections and granted them all Top-Top Secret Clearances.......same with many others of Trump's closest advisers........
Trump and the Republican's knew that the hyper religious and evangelicals were known for being "followers".... Easy Pickings.... So they hijacked that crowd as easily led automatic followers who didn't think for themselves. Then like you said, he immediately fleeced these sheeples for money and voters for his totally corrupt causes.......
Irish_Dem
(81,277 posts)We suspect that Jared provided the intel which allowed the head of the Saudi family to do a purge.
And yes of course Jared et al were complete security risks. They should never have been given a clearance.
Remember when Jared said the government medical supplies during covid belonged to him and Trump.
This was his outlook on everything in the federal govt.
I also believe that Trump had no idea which gov't classified documents to steal.
I think Jared was the bag man. He knew exactly what documents were wanted by whom and
what they were worth. And told Trump what to steal. Jared made the deliveries and picked up the cash.
Just like you describe.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)sent THREE times the requested shipment of PPE to DeSantis in Florida at no cost........
And sent nothing to Blue State Massachusetts????????? Mass was overcome with massive numbers of Corona Virus Victims....
Ivanka and Jared were having EVERY shipment of PPE from other countries, to the U.S. confiscated by U.S Customs and sent to Fed. Gov't warehouses..........Then Ivanka and Jared distributed all the incoming foreign shipments, at ludicrously high prices. That was after they had already sold the huge stockpiles from U.S. Government warehouses located all over the U.S........
So didn't the Mass Governor, turn to the owner? of the Patriots? to send his personal cargo planes to China and pick up a huge order the Governor had placed.....The Governor ordered the pilots to bring the cargo planes direct to Boston Airport, and to NOT go to Customs as required, but sit out on the tarmac.....He had the ARMED Mass Nat Guard surround the planes. They were all unloaded on to the owner's tractor trailer trucks, and then were escorted by the Mass State Patrol to where the supplies could be distributed to all the hospitals in Mass......
Dave Bowman
(7,166 posts)Well that place is perfect for the orange creature. When can he move in?
NH Ethylene
(31,348 posts)Nixon was a Boy Scout compared to TFG.
MadameButterfly
(4,039 posts)and now he thinks we will buy this?
agingdem
(8,851 posts)Dave Bowman
(7,166 posts)senseandsensibility
(24,978 posts)You noticed?
lees1975
(7,046 posts)You have to commit a crime to get indicted. I get blank stares from right wingers when I put this to them. What crime should Hillary have been indicted for? Being a liberal? That's not a crime. Was there something specific she did that was against the law? I never heard anything.
Cartoonist
(7,579 posts)Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi
mtngirl47
(1,243 posts)and supposedly classified documents that they wanted to "lock her up" for.
Now it's ok in their little pea brains for Trump to have classified documents because Hillary and Joe Biden.
not fooled
(6,680 posts)and helped her evade accountability. Just like the Biden Crime Family. Or so say the loonier of the maggots who've told me their views.
Dave Bowman
(7,166 posts)And let not forget:
The Illuminati at Area 51 who are in league with The Freemasons and who are plotting to bring Alien Invaders to probe us all did save Hillary's butt, or something...
Mblaze
(1,040 posts)Was not an independent entity. Barr answered to Trump.
Bev54
(13,431 posts)Durham wanted so bad to get her and tried to get her lawyer and it bombed in his face. Don't kid yourself he wanted to jail Hillary.
ouija
(465 posts)ashredux
(2,928 posts)He sees the writing on the wall . And Im sure he understands from the Bible what thats all about .. you know he knows his Bible 😊
senseandsensibility
(24,978 posts)Escurumbele
(4,094 posts)Hmm, and investigation on Melania is in order, she must have done something that can put her in jail in the buffoon is blabbering about "protecting Hillary", the wife of a former president.
dameatball
(7,669 posts)BoRaGard
(7,591 posts)Correct diagnosis. republicon felon once again wanting to squirm away from responsibility for his crimes.
unblock
(56,198 posts)Botany
(77,324 posts)
. them told Trump they found no evidence any crime or crimes committed by the former Sec. of State.
and they looked too. He was also found guilty of trying to bribe and or strong arm Ukraines President
Zelenskyy to make up evidence of crimes committed by Joe Biden too by Congress in his first impeachment.
The only question is will Trump flee before or after the election because he knows that his
run to be President this time is just a grifting way to stay out of prison.
not fooled
(6,680 posts)I needed a reminder...the firehose of sh*t from red don obscures history.
Botany
(77,324 posts)
. and this was part his protecting her and then had Bill Barr hide his real crimes.
The mother fucker needs to be in prison.
Escape
(469 posts)If Trump was pardoned, he would return to full form criminality within an hour.
He MUST be imprisoned for the rest of his life. The United States of America is not safe as long as Donald Trump is a free man.
The only way to guarantee that he is not pardoned is to physically eliminate him in prison. Treason is still a capital offense.
bullimiami
(14,075 posts)will maybe not be prosecuted.
Metaphorical
(2,634 posts)She is very likely counting the days to the election so that she can serve divorce papers after the winner is declared.
DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)that she entered and worked in this country as an illegal alien to begin with..............She was looking for a rich guy, to marry, then have her "anchor" child with......
bullimiami
(14,075 posts)DENVERPOPS
(13,003 posts)I remember them reporting that Trump had one of his all out childish temper tantrums when he learned HE had to pay for the inaugural celebrations out of his pocket. He thought all the donations flowing in for the celebrations were for him personally, and that the Feds footed the bills for the entire inauguration, parties and everything.......He kept screaming THAT'S MY MONEY, THAT'S MY MONEY.
So they billed the donations for absolutely ludicrous amounts, and lots of stuff that was never done, and then kept the money for themselves.....
barbtries
(31,308 posts)comfort themselves by saying everyone lies. Well, everyone does not lie the way TCFSF lies. he's definitely weird that way.
generalbetrayus
(1,861 posts)"Richard Nixon is a no good, lying bastard. He can lie out of both sides of his mouth at the same time, and if he ever caught himself telling the truth, he'd lie just to keep his hand in."
skip fox
(19,502 posts)viva la
(4,598 posts)Anyway, if she COULD have been indicted, Bill Barr WOULD have indicted her. But he didn't.
JoseBalow
(9,489 posts)GreenWave
(12,641 posts)OMGWTF
(5,131 posts)Emile
(42,293 posts)republianmushroom
(22,326 posts)HarryM
(464 posts)Penniless, without his Secret Service protection, and the rest of his conspirators along with him.
Brainfodder
(7,781 posts)Those fools in numbers apparently don't want healthcare!
They are so sensible, their candidate says he is the best ever, and they believe him!
Are we going to get a fresh set of future felons like their candidate?