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Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:46 AM Aug 2024

JD Vance is accusing Retired Four Star General Barry McCaffrey of stolen valor?

Last edited Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:48 AM - Edit history (1)



Ben Meiselas
So now JD Vance is accusing Retired Four Star General Barry McCaffrey of stolen valor? McCafrey served in the United States Army for 32 years and at retirement was the most highly decorated serving General. He was awarded three Purple Heart medals, two Distinguished Service Crosses and two Silver Stars for valor.
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JD Vance is accusing Retired Four Star General Barry McCaffrey of stolen valor? (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Aug 2024 OP
republicons continue to piss on America's protectors and defenders BoRaGard Aug 2024 #1
What is amazing. Woodwizard Aug 2024 #77
Seriously, they are fast running out of voters PatSeg Aug 2024 #83
Fear only works for a while Woodwizard Aug 2024 #85
Yes, you have to keep all that hate fresh, PatSeg Aug 2024 #88
From 2022, so it's a feature not a bug. madaboutharry Aug 2024 #2
He hates himself BattleRow Aug 2024 #18
Who could look in a mirror... dchill Aug 2024 #23
Why isn't his eyeliner tattooing mentioned? Talk about f'in weird.... Evolve Dammit Aug 2024 #52
Here here!!! wolfie001 Aug 2024 #74
Ignore. Found all the previous posts. Too funny. ratchiweenie Aug 2024 #75
I think you agreed wolfie001 Aug 2024 #79
Certainly as plausible as any of their assertions! Evolve Dammit Aug 2024 #87
Are Donald Trump and JD Vance drag queens? Marcuse Aug 2024 #82
all fair questions! Evolve Dammit Aug 2024 #86
And his time in Iraq was spent at a desk BonnieJW Aug 2024 #48
This prick has a lot of nerve. Docreed2003 Aug 2024 #3
No kidding. So right. FalloutShelter Aug 2024 #4
Somebody needs to... 2naSalit Aug 2024 #80
This is a legit question. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #6
Gee, does that sound familiar? birdographer Aug 2024 #57
Bingo. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #58
His loyalty is with money and the facade of success. Midnight Writer Aug 2024 #9
Mirror reflection of Trump BattleRow Aug 2024 #22
He does musclecar6 Aug 2024 #24
Yea I was gonna say having three Purple Hearts KS Toronado Aug 2024 #51
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2024 #5
This 100% blows me away Leghorn21 Aug 2024 #7
I'm beginning to think he's doing it intentionally. Ilsa Aug 2024 #89
Shady Vance gademocrat7 Aug 2024 #8
Considering the guyliner, BattleRow Aug 2024 #31
That's A Keeper, Sir The Magistrate Aug 2024 #40
Shady JD Seinan Sensei Aug 2024 #71
No, its not "so now" ScratchCat Aug 2024 #10
"Media" AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2024 #14
Acctually isn't this a failure of vetting? Although it does sound like something Trump would say karynnj Aug 2024 #32
The original exchange between Vance and McCaffrey happened in 2022 FakeNoose Aug 2024 #33
Has Vance ever disavowed what he said? bluesbassman Aug 2024 #60
Does jd Vance even know that Ukraine invaded Russia a couple of days ago? Bookreadingliberal53 Aug 2024 #11
Sounding like the Couch cut him off. Kid Berwyn Aug 2024 #12
No more diving in BattleRow Aug 2024 #28
Waitwaitwait; holdonholdon. Aristus Aug 2024 #13
He's fond of the accusation "stolen valor" so I'm wondering..what valor does his service record show? Deuxcents Aug 2024 #35
I guess no one's told him disrespecting service members doesn't fly with us. mucholderthandirt Aug 2024 #15
B. F. Vance MattBaggins Aug 2024 #16
Blue Falcon Vance. DinahMoeHum Aug 2024 #27
REMF MattBaggins Aug 2024 #30
Vance is a REMF atreides1 Aug 2024 #36
Even more so than Cotton, but that's a low bar ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 2024 #44
Stolen Valor Tom Cotton had to delete his lies about his service from his bio. keithbvadu2 Aug 2024 #64
Gray Man Ranger Cotton should shut his fucking mouth Aviation Pro Aug 2024 #66
What's a "gray man ranger" ?? DinahMoeHum Aug 2024 #67
A Gray Man is someone who flies under the radar at one of the service academies Aviation Pro Aug 2024 #70
I had no idea. MontanaMama Aug 2024 #72
The Blue Falcon soars! orangecrush Aug 2024 #49
JD Stooge. I like it. twodogsbarking Aug 2024 #17
Not worthy of being one of the Three Stooges. Sneederbunk Aug 2024 #19
Not even Joe Besser ...nt ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 2024 #45
In Vance's view, You are not an honorable member of our military WestMichRad Aug 2024 #20
His knees BattleRow Aug 2024 #26
That sums it up orangecrush Aug 2024 #50
People can spot a phony from a mile away and it's you j.D Tribetime Aug 2024 #21
Way to score military and veteran "loser and sucker" votes, Fancy Pants Vance Rocknation Aug 2024 #25
Typo alert, General Rocknation Aug 2024 #29
So lonely bird Aug 2024 #34
MISSION ACCOMLISHED!!! Donald drumph had to pick a running mate that is a bigger douche, liar, and POS than drumph Comfortably_Numb Aug 2024 #37
This garbage would appeal to but a segment of his MAGA constituents. Ligyron Aug 2024 #38
Damn, E-4 Mafia much, Flipper the Couch Fucker? Aviation Pro Aug 2024 #39
Milwaukee Irish julmur Aug 2024 #41
As a veteran, slightlv Aug 2024 #42
"I hope with all my heart VoteVets starts digging into Vance a lot deeper than they have so far." BumRushDaShow Aug 2024 #62
Excellent! Thank you so much for posting this! slightlv Aug 2024 #65
National security is for libtards. Turbineguy Aug 2024 #43
From 2022 jimfields33 Aug 2024 #46
I just listened to Linda ladeewolf Aug 2024 #47
It's the same swiftboating shit since Kerry; same deplorables bankrolling and catapulting the propaganda Evolve Dammit Aug 2024 #53
these desperate scumbuckets are out of control LymphocyteLover Aug 2024 #54
The little traitor is unfit to shine McCaffrey's boots dalton99a Aug 2024 #55
Awfully big words for a Old Crank Aug 2024 #56
Vance is a fucking idiot and full-blown toadie. He does not even realize the circumstances Scalded Nun Aug 2024 #59
Trump got a Purple Heart. Dubya also. keithbvadu2 Aug 2024 #63
JD Vance is a fucking traitor Miami Blue Aug 2024 #61
Is Vance trying to lose the election for Trump? area51 Aug 2024 #68
Junior Varsity claims stolen valor ironman99 Aug 2024 #69
Looks like Vance is suffering madamesilverspurs Aug 2024 #73
Rs continue to smear everyone and everybody to provide cover for the biggest piece-of-shit Sibelius Fan Aug 2024 #76
WHY? Trying to get the spotlight off The Devil's Taint? Normalizing absolute batshit crazy? Brainfodder Aug 2024 #78
If I stepped in a pile of JD Vance, I wouldn't scrape it off... GiqueCee Aug 2024 #81
It really seems like the republicans are living in some sort of different reality than the rest of the world. BComplex Aug 2024 #84

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
1. republicons continue to piss on America's protectors and defenders
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:50 AM
Aug 2024

so frikking un-patriotic.

Disgraceful.

Woodwizard

(1,332 posts)
77. What is amazing.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 07:38 AM
Aug 2024

Is the Republicans hit what I think are so many third rails. Women's reproductive rights, social benefits cuts, trying to strip healthcare. Lack of environmental planning actually just flat out mocking climate change.

Trumps suckers and losers and now this idiot running his mouth.

It really shows how many Americans just do not pay attention to what is going on.

PatSeg

(53,284 posts)
83. Seriously, they are fast running out of voters
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 09:09 AM
Aug 2024

to alienate. About all they have to sell is hatred and fear and they aren't even good at that anymore.

PatSeg

(53,284 posts)
88. Yes, you have to keep all that hate fresh,
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 11:38 AM
Aug 2024

but now it has become stale and redundant. Even many of the idiots are starting to catch on.

madaboutharry

(42,034 posts)
2. From 2022, so it's a feature not a bug.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:51 AM
Aug 2024

His demeaning other’s military service is apparently a pattern.

J.D. Vance is a punk and a fraud. He demeans people for the same reason all bullies behave that way, he hates himself.

wolfie001

(7,853 posts)
74. Here here!!!
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 06:20 AM
Aug 2024

I've mentioned it multiple times here and nothing but crickets. This is so pathetic. Is he trying to present his pudgy face as scarier/intimidating? I don't get it but it's a very "Grinder-ish" thing to do. Maybe he hooked up with Peter Theil after one of those meetings? Just a theory.

Marcuse

(9,064 posts)
82. Are Donald Trump and JD Vance drag queens?
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 09:00 AM
Aug 2024
The Republican party, known for its strong stance against drag queens, is being represented by a candidate who wears more orange makeup than any drag queen and a vice-presidential candidate known for his heavy use of eyeliner. This raises an interesting question: If someone paints their face for a performance and dances, does that qualify as drag? Trump is known for his heavily made-up appearance and his dancing at rallies, sometimes to the Village People’s “Y.M.C.A.” So, could Trump be considered a drag queen? And if so, shouldn’t Republicans follow their own advice and protect children from drag performances? Why, then, do people bring their children to see Trump in drag? Do they think they’re bringing their child to see Ronald McDonald?
https://epgn.com/2024/07/29/are-donald-trump-and-jd-vance-drag-queens/

Docreed2003

(18,714 posts)
3. This prick has a lot of nerve.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:51 AM
Aug 2024

I seriously wonder where Vance's loyalties lie because they sure as hell don't seem to align with American interests.

FalloutShelter

(14,551 posts)
4. No kidding. So right.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:54 AM
Aug 2024

We are truly in the upside down, where this kind of shit does not get you bounced from the race.

Jeebus Rice… I hope McCaffrey rips him a new one.

Irish_Dem

(81,964 posts)
6. This is a legit question.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:01 AM
Aug 2024

Vance does not seem to land on the side of the US on any issue.

And taking on a decorated four star general is pure stupidity unless
there are ulterior motives.

Midnight Writer

(25,590 posts)
9. His loyalty is with money and the facade of success.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:07 AM
Aug 2024

Not much balance on the Republican ticket. Two men who hate America, hate its heroes, hate its people, hate its principles.

musclecar6

(1,884 posts)
24. He does
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:57 AM
Aug 2024

Have some nerve doesn’t he? Barry McCaffrey got two silver stars wounded three times in Vietnam and no way would he ever be described except with reverence the way he should be. Obviously, this guy is a real piece of garbage. He isn’t worthy to be the dirt under Barry McCaffrey’s shoes.

KS Toronado

(23,733 posts)
51. Yea I was gonna say having three Purple Hearts
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 12:24 PM
Aug 2024

proves the General knows combat first hand.

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Leghorn21

(14,101 posts)
7. This 100% blows me away
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:01 AM
Aug 2024

What a fucking PUNK this snake is turning out to be
Absolutely unbelievable
Absolutely
JFC

Ilsa

(64,474 posts)
89. I'm beginning to think he's doing it intentionally.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 11:42 AM
Aug 2024

He really still hates Trump and is trying to make him lose without being obvious about it.

ScratchCat

(2,750 posts)
10. No, its not "so now"
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:12 AM
Aug 2024

Because this was two and a half years ago. Another example of what's wrong with the media.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
14. "Media"
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:33 AM
Aug 2024

I'd describe it as "a youtube channel and twitter feed that panders to people on Facebook who don't know how social media works" - hence they can share a two-year-old tweet and pretend it's new for clicks.

karynnj

(61,043 posts)
32. Acctually isn't this a failure of vetting? Although it does sound like something Trump would say
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:06 AM
Aug 2024

This was not something he said as a twentysomething at Yale or even in the army. It is something he should have to answer for. Remember they brought up things Obama said in elementary school and John Kerry's courageous and eloquent protests of Vietnam.

I am curious as to whether Mcaffery's peers will respond. Response is easy. He was important to the first Gulf War having bee. As successful as it was. (I was against the war, but the military did its job well. )

FakeNoose

(42,041 posts)
33. The original exchange between Vance and McCaffrey happened in 2022
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:09 AM
Aug 2024

... when Vance was first running for the Senate.

It's been brought up by Meidas Touch as recently as today, or yesterday. That's why it's back in the social media stream. Meidas Touch is reminding us that Vance is disrespectful to America's heroes, anti-military, and a pawn of Putin. Ain't he just like Chump?

And Repukes are voting for these assholes?

bluesbassman

(20,384 posts)
60. Has Vance ever disavowed what he said?
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 12:48 PM
Aug 2024

If he hasn’t, and I not yet heard anywhere that he has, then while it may not be “new”, it’s still relevant as to what a flaming bag of porch shite he is.

11. Does jd Vance even know that Ukraine invaded Russia a couple of days ago?
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:15 AM
Aug 2024

And that Russia hasn’t even responded?

Aristus

(72,373 posts)
13. Waitwaitwait; holdonholdon.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:28 AM
Aug 2024

Some desk jockey corporal is questioning the service of a retired general now?

Deuxcents

(27,400 posts)
35. He's fond of the accusation "stolen valor" so I'm wondering..what valor does his service record show?
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:13 AM
Aug 2024

mucholderthandirt

(1,789 posts)
15. I guess no one's told him disrespecting service members doesn't fly with us.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:33 AM
Aug 2024

That couch fucker needs to shut his mouth before someone does it for him. That's not a threat, by the way, listening government stooges, that's a prediction.

You'd think a former Marine would have more sense, and more respect, but that is obviously not so. I served four years and was closer than he ever was to being in combat, and I never left the USA.

DinahMoeHum

(23,649 posts)
27. Blue Falcon Vance.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:59 AM
Aug 2024

Considering he himself was a rear-echelon pogue (pogey bait), Vance has fucking nerve calling someone with Purple Hearts and Silver Stars "stolen valor"



Aviation Pro

(15,680 posts)
66. Gray Man Ranger Cotton should shut his fucking mouth
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 01:51 PM
Aug 2024

And take a major minus for flapping his fucking gums.

Aviation Pro

(15,680 posts)
70. A Gray Man is someone who flies under the radar at one of the service academies
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 03:56 PM
Aug 2024

Or courses of significance (Ranger School, Special Forces Qualification Course, BUD/S, etc.).

Ranger Cotton completed Ranger School and is authorized to wear the Ranger tab, however many in that community don't consider tab wearers as Rangers, a distinction that belongs solely to the 75th Ranger Regiment.

WestMichRad

(3,331 posts)
20. In Vance's view, You are not an honorable member of our military
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:42 AM
Aug 2024

… unless and until you have bended a knee to TSF.

Rocknation

(45,008 posts)
29. Typo alert, General
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:00 AM
Aug 2024

Didn't you mean to write "His comments are those of ANOTHER stooge for Russian aggression"?


Rocknation

lonely bird

(2,995 posts)
34. So
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:09 AM
Aug 2024

This is from when the POS known as JD Vance was running for senate in Ohio? Makes me wonder what Russian assets his hedge fund was invested in. Also pisses me of because the DNC dropped the ball on Ryan’s campaign, imo.

Comfortably_Numb

(4,188 posts)
37. MISSION ACCOMLISHED!!! Donald drumph had to pick a running mate that is a bigger douche, liar, and POS than drumph
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:17 AM
Aug 2024

himself. JD Vance checks all of the disgusting pig shit vomit inducing “alpha” dick behaviors. Exceeds expectations on his performance review.

Ligyron

(8,009 posts)
38. This garbage would appeal to but a segment of his MAGA constituents.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:19 AM
Aug 2024

Even quite a few of them would find his slight unworthy even though it is McCaffrey.

Aviation Pro

(15,680 posts)
39. Damn, E-4 Mafia much, Flipper the Couch Fucker?
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:20 AM
Aug 2024

I've had soldiers like this little motherfucker in a couple of the units I commanded. They are toxic in the unit and the best thing to do for them is to help them separate from the service.

julmur

(222 posts)
41. Milwaukee Irish
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:21 AM
Aug 2024

This shit seriously needs to be called out by the media ( I know, eye roll on that happening) and lawmakers on both sides, vance is a total piece of garbage

slightlv

(7,865 posts)
42. As a veteran,
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:30 AM
Aug 2024

you have no idea how infuriating this is to me. I served during peacetime, but I have the utmost respect for those who served and fought during wartime. For someone who had a single hitch in a damned PR office to think he has the right to say *anything* with regards to anyone else's service, it's insane.

AFAIC, THIS is the bottom of the barrel. I may have run into some generals I didn't particularly like (especially those with old-time opinions of women in the military), but I kept them to myself and I always respected the rank and person holding the rank while in uniform. To do anything else is the height of arrogance, IMO.

I hope with all my heart VoteVets starts digging into Vance a lot deeper than they have so far... and then publicize it. Vance should NOT get away with this kind of crap. But I do wonder... there are magas who served in the military. McCaffrey is pretty damned well known. And if this is just the start of the swiftboating that Vance is going to do, what do THEY think of the denigration of their former/current service people?

I would love to see this get as much play as crazy childless cat ladies. We started a movement with that (I'm not childless, but at my age and with my brood, I do fall under the cat lady moniker). We veterans need to ensure we start a movement over Vance's comments, too (and not to mention all the denigration that has come from the original bone spur deferment guy).

BumRushDaShow

(171,092 posts)
62. "I hope with all my heart VoteVets starts digging into Vance a lot deeper than they have so far."
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 12:52 PM
Aug 2024

They are starting to ride him....




VoteVets
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JD Vance has a LONG record of attacking US Troops and Veterans. In less than two years in Congress he voted:

➡️NO on a pay raise for US Troops
➡️NO on funding for the VA
➡️NO on expanding home care for Veterans
➡️NO on aid to Israel, Ukraine, and Taiwan
➡️NO on border security
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4:56 PM · Aug 7, 2024





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Why did @JDVance vote against this?? Add this to the questions we're waiting on Vance to answer.

MORE: https://stripes.com/theaters/us/2023-12-13/senate-ndaa-defense-budget-military-pentagon-12353473.html
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12:43 PM · Aug 9, 2024


slightlv

(7,865 posts)
65. Excellent! Thank you so much for posting this!
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 01:01 PM
Aug 2024

Now, if we could only break thru the oligarch-controlled media!

Turbineguy

(40,147 posts)
43. National security is for libtards.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:36 AM
Aug 2024

The Old Soviet Union would have wished they had these kind of people in charge of the U.S.

Linda ladeewolf

(1,142 posts)
47. I just listened to
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:54 AM
Aug 2024

A duty to warn YouTube by Frank Shaeffer on Shady Pants. He was talking about the book Vance wrote a blurb for. Apparently the title is called “Unhuman”. Kevin Roberts, the author is apparently a fan of Pinochet, and other tyrants. He describes what needs to be done to leftists. It’s not pretty. If Vance is that type of person, he should never be within a heartbeat of the presidency. Just sayin. The books covers material they don’t want us to read until after the election and it’s too late. I may not have my description too accurate, so forgive my faulty memory. I read an article about Pinochet afterwards.

Evolve Dammit

(21,804 posts)
53. It's the same swiftboating shit since Kerry; same deplorables bankrolling and catapulting the propaganda
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 12:31 PM
Aug 2024

Scalded Nun

(1,720 posts)
59. Vance is a fucking idiot and full-blown toadie. He does not even realize the circumstances
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 12:43 PM
Aug 2024

surrounding the award of a Purple Heart.

The other awards distinguish him as well, but the PH is awarded for literally bleeding for your country in time of conflict.

If the balloon ever does go up you can probably find him, along with Donny bone-spurs, Ted Nugent, all members of the Heritage Foundation, 95% of the country's millionaires/billionaires and most elected GOPers hiding in some cave shitting their pants.

Miami Blue

(377 posts)
61. JD Vance is a fucking traitor
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 12:49 PM
Aug 2024

Prima donna Corporal JD Vance is a fucking loser and a sucker who went to Iraq for only six months to work as a correspondent inside a very comfy building with air conditioning.


FY
TraitorVance
🖕🏻

ironman99

(156 posts)
69. Junior Varsity claims stolen valor
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 03:37 PM
Aug 2024

So a Corporal in the 4377th Typewriter Division thinks he is man ienough to attack a 4-Star Flag Officer. Dude, you made Corporal based on time not talent.

My Staff Sargent father and WWII Engineering Brigade father-in-law would slap the taste out of your mouth and tell you to shave that silly assed beard off. My father-in-law hit all the tourist spots of WWII: El-Alemaine, Sicily, Italy Normandy and the Battle of the Bulge. In fact, he was one of the first ones to enter those locations. Meanwhile you were working doing work on MS Word on a computer.

Talk to my relatives about who has stolen valor!!!!!!!

Sibelius Fan

(24,850 posts)
76. Rs continue to smear everyone and everybody to provide cover for the biggest piece-of-shit
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 07:27 AM
Aug 2024

the modern world has ever seen. They are throwing out the rule of law and our very democracy to protect a lawless authoritarian. One man.

GiqueCee

(4,517 posts)
81. If I stepped in a pile of JD Vance, I wouldn't scrape it off...
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 08:40 AM
Aug 2024

... I'd burn the fuckin' shoes. That asshole has the moral compass of a rabid hyena.

BComplex

(9,940 posts)
84. It really seems like the republicans are living in some sort of different reality than the rest of the world.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 09:23 AM
Aug 2024

Something is seriously wrong with what is going on with them. They really do want a war, because it's obvious they aren't looking for actual human voters.

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