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First of all, JD Vance s as phony as they come. Probably even more than trump. trump is dumbass bullshitter and can't help himself. Vance on the other hand is super calculating and manipulative. What pisses me off most is Vance shittng on the service of US Vets. While I have never served in the military, I am the child of a deceased war casualty military veteran. My father served 26 years before he couldn't any longer. In those 26 years, he fought in Germany, did spy work in the od East Germany, served and was injured in Korea and served and was shot in Vietnam to come stateside and die from those injuries a week before Christmas when I was 7 years old. So Mr. Vance, my question is this: where in the fuck, in your conceited, selfish attitude do you get off on pissing on those who have served in the military. I for one am thankful for ALL those who have served, whether in combat or not and I grieve for the loss of families of those who have put themselves in harm's way!! So in summary, JD Vance, go fuck yourself and the couch you love!
Klarkashton
(1,181 posts)Lose this election, there is that.
Zambero
(9,474 posts)His future political career is dead.
GreenWave
(8,653 posts)little wonder Melanoma keeps her distance.
Wounded Bear
(60,172 posts)BigMin28
(1,350 posts)I think she has worked a deal with TSF that will leave Barron with whatever is left when the menace dies. She loathes his other children.
luvallpeeps
(973 posts)inside at least. So far. Wonder which hole shell be buried on. 🏌️
dchill
(39,898 posts)leftieNanner
(15,563 posts)When he loses in November, he will return to the Senate, as John McCain did in 2008.
AlexSFCA
(6,255 posts)leftieNanner
(15,563 posts)NotHardly
(1,108 posts)Dave Bowman
(3,252 posts)SWBTATTReg
(23,729 posts)My best to you.
Lovie777
(14,233 posts)the logic eludes me. Did they want a mini shithole?
2naSalit
(91,221 posts)As long as he can keep his cult followers in line, since they are the most violent group in the country, they can get whatever they want by having their peeps in the important places driving the show. He's becoming a bit problematic as he melts down prematurely for them.
LearnedHand
(3,891 posts)when TSF keels over about two weeks after the inaugural.
Okay that might be slightly exaggerated.
getagrip_already
(16,965 posts)It doesnt get much lower than that. He gets credit for being a marine, regardless of assignment or length of service, but that doesnt give him license to throw shit on the honor of other veterans or active service soldiers.
He should be recalled and court martialed.
DENVERPOPS
(9,718 posts)coming down on his bullshit comments about WALZ today????????????
Holy Crap, he and Trump can't help themselves from disparaging remarks and shit throwing good people......
Tanuki
(15,173 posts)sarge43
(29,118 posts)1. National Defense Service Medal - awarded for service from 11 Sept 2001
2. Iraq Campaign Medal - awarded from March 2003 to December 2011 for assignment in Iraq for minimum 30 consecutive day or 60 non-consecutive days.
Has his 214 shown up on the internet or he just lying his ass off again?
ElleMac
(6 posts)So here's JD's MOS (think: Military Job Description). I'm not sure he's qualified to utter the word "valor".
Marine Corps Combat Correspondent Enlisted
4341 MOS
Combat correspondents gather news and feature information for use in command newspapers, magazines, and websites, on AFN radio and television, and for internal and external release; respond to queries from the civilian media; perform media liaison functions during operations/exercises; conduct community relations programs; produce print and photographic materials; and edit/produce command newspapers and/or magazines and assist in the management and production of Marine Corps websites.
Produce SAPP compliant products; Respond to query/correspondence; Conduct interviews; Write stories; Shoot photographs; Write captions or cut-lines; Copy-edit print products
Escort media representatives; Determine the level of release authority; Conduct interview with external media; Coordinate an educators' workshop; Produce Public Affairs campaign plan; Edit a newspaper/magazine; Review newspapers/magazines; Produce phones/beepers
Skittles
(157,297 posts)did you serve in the military?
gopiscrap
(24,111 posts)I'm disgusted seeing people who never served trashing the service of others, even if it is Vance - he's a fucking asshole but he DID serve......my big issue with him is he is pimping for a guy who shits on the military, THAT is disgusting.
gopiscrap
(24,111 posts)Squidly
(867 posts)Could have done without the "dont laugh" comment, but I think EM was just pointing out his MOS description. The point I think EM was trying to make is that Vance really has no right bashing Coach for not seeing combat when he himself didn't see it either. Vance is a POS, but he did serve. As did I in case you are wondering.
Skittles
(157,297 posts)but I don't like seeing anyone who didn't serve at all judging those who did
NJCher
(37,354 posts)George Noory, one of the nation's most overrated and useless radio hosts, has a military history like that--same type of thing, press release, writing, that sort of thing. Noory, even though he is a rw jerk and gun enthusiast, at least has the savvy to apologize for his military history when it is brought up. He will even come right out and say to a guest who has service, that his record is not equivalent.
Skittles
(157,297 posts)why are we trashing the service of others? The biggest issue for me is that Vance is pimping for Cadet Bonespurs
writing a press release is not the same as risking your life fighting an enemy.
Skittles
(157,297 posts)trashing the service of another, especially if you did not serve, is not cool.....the problem is NOT Vance's military service, it's that he is pimping for Cadet Bonespurs while trashing the service of another
NJCher
(37,354 posts)Sitting behind a desk is not the same as active field involvement. It just isn't.
If a distinction is not made, many will not look any further than just saying they served. That is what you are advocating. Let Vance present himself as having done service that's equivalent to Walz's.
And keep in mind--that's my background--writing press releases and all the stuff Vance did. If anyone should know, it is I.
It's like saying a physical education degree and a physics degree are equivalent. They're not.
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also why are you putting words in the mouth of other posters? No one is trashing: just drawing attention to the fact that the jobs aren't the same., Please do not do this again.
Skittles
(157,297 posts)but they are BOTH service to one's country
people who did not serve need to STFU about the service of others, and vets like Vance who are pimping for Trump need to STFU too
DONE HERE
failure to understand the overall issue.
ElleMac
(6 posts)Under normal circumstances, I stand in gratitude for ALL men and women that sign on the dotted line with their life to maintain my freedom. All MOSs know how to shoot a gun and can be called to the front line at anytime. Vance isn't normal; he started the conversation questioning Walz's service. I'm merely suggesting that if he wants to go there....let's go there. He's judgmental. Just as he stands in judgement of the very personal choices made by women about their bodies. He doesn't get to have it both ways. IMHO
hibbing
(10,373 posts)And the delegates just thought it was so so funny. It is absolutely disgusting.
Forward
calimary
(83,613 posts)Not to mention FUCKED. Really nice and patriotic, 'eh? Make fun of the Purple Heart. Wear your stupid, idiotic, unredeemable "purple heart bandaids. Yeah, I bet those who won the Purple Heart the hard way REEEEEEEEEEALLY appreciated that.
And they say WE'RE the ones who don't respect the military...
Winning a Purple Heart "the hard way" is the only way to earn one.
keithbvadu2
(39,371 posts)SarcasticSatyr
(1,241 posts)fuck Vance.
spanone
(137,335 posts)FUCK VANCE AND THE MEDIA THAT PROMOTES THIS SHIT.
MineralMan
(147,172 posts)Warpy
(112,938 posts)was how shameul it was for a veteran to disparage another veteran's service, now matter how or where that service was done as long as it was done honorably.
I just hope there are more vets like my dad this time around and that smearing a vet who served honorably, even staying in the US, for 24 years is going to blow the shit right back into JD's stupid face.
sarge43
(29,118 posts)From your monitor to Them What Matter.
LeftInTX
(29,364 posts)Good God. He was down some rabbit hole. My dad was a pilot in Korea and later Vietnam. He was active duty 1948-69.
I'm sure some of them attended his funeral.
I'm surprised that swiftboat guy is still alive.
steelyboo
(350 posts)lpbk2713
(43,132 posts)Anyone who would be a lackey for Trump is a punk.
aggiesal
(9,343 posts)It worked on John Kerry, we can't let this work on Tim Walz.
We need to stop this where ever it happens. If you hear friends or even family, shoot it down fast.
Here is why this is happening.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/09/politics/tim-walz-service-swift-boat-attacks/index.html
Skittles
(157,297 posts)mind-boggling
kingvitamin
(101 posts)-JD Vance
I think that hes noxious and is leading the white working class to a very dark place.
-JD Vance
Mr. Trump is unfit for our nations highest office,
-JD Vance
"I'm a never Trump guy"
-JD Vance
FakeNoose
(35,045 posts)Klondike Kat
(840 posts)A "correspondent". If he came anywhere close to combat he was most likely keeping his head and arse very close to the ground.
Doodley
(10,030 posts)Clouds Passing
(1,392 posts)Generic Brad
(14,363 posts)XanaDUer2
(12,948 posts)liberal N proud
(60,839 posts)And you can do what want with him, he is not my type.
Eddie18
(55 posts)Rednecks don't know their ass from a hole in the ground
DFW
(56,051 posts)1.
In a place called Mar-a-Lago
Lives a man named Donald Trump
He is loose with his diction
Cant tell fact from fiction
No smarter than Forrest Gump
Now Donald got his bankers
To lend him a billion or two
He said just let me borrow what Ill pay back tomorrow
But thats something he would never do.
Chorus:
And its bad, bad Donald Trump
Bad for the nation like a toxic dump
Larger than old King Kong
Meaner than a right-wing blog
2.
Now Don was in the White House
Caused us a great big mess
Thought he could fudge it and destroyed our budget
Then he called it a success
Now hes come back for a replay
And its widely understood
The more we go shootin pleases his old pal Putin
But some folks think thats good
Chorus:
And its bad, bad Donald Trump
Bigger and fatter than a camels hump
Larger than old King Kong
Meaner than a right wing blog
3.
Now Donald got him a V P
A guy named J D Vance
Said, the guy sounds crazy,
And since I am lazy,
(Im) gonna bring him to the dance.
So, they flew up to Milwaukee
Confirmed peoples fears
Big nomination, but it caused no sensation
And it bored everyone to tears
Chorus:
And its bad, bad Donald Trump
Bad for the nation like a toxic dump
Larger than old King Kong
Meaner than a right wing blog
4.
But J D has his own plans
Which Donald doesnt know,
Thinks, if were elected
Then I am selected
To ditch him and run the show!
Final chorus:
And its bad, bad, J D Vance
Hell take over given half a chance
Badder than old King Kong
Meaner than a right-wing blog
Yeah, its bad, bad, J D Vance
Hell take over given half a chance
Badder than old King Kong
Meaner than a right-wing blog
Badder than old King Kong
Meaner than a right-wing blog
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**and yes, this one is already in production!!
You made my day!
DFW
(56,051 posts)Starting on the video this week.
Had me singing along from the get-go!!
Zoomie1986
(1,213 posts)For why this blanket 'thank you for your service' bleating needs to stop.
When you say that, you have no idea whatsoever if the person is deserving of it. I'm a vet, and i can assure you that not every service member was worthy of the uniform. Every veteran will tell you that they've worked with just as many idiots and toxic personalities as they ever did in civilian life.
They're people, like anyone else. Some of them have jobs where they get shot at, and those people rate a bit higher, but, in most cases during the modern era, it's still only a job where the difference from what civilians do would be the weird rules we had to follow.
I've worked elsewhere in the federal government, and, honestly, I was prouder of that work, and the job was far more demanding, than what I did for the military. But I don't get any thanks at all for the fed job, other than a cheap certificate after retiring from it.
struggle4progress
(119,618 posts)Published Aug 09, 2024 at 7:15 AM EDT
Updated Aug 09, 2024 at 4:38 PM EDT
By Ewan Palmer
... Walz, who spent 24 years in the National Guard, left in 2005 months before the battalion he led was notified that it would to be deployed to Iraq. Vance also appeared to reference previous comments from Walz in which the governor said, "We can make sure that those weapons of war, that I carried in war, is the only place where those weapons were at."
"Well, I wonder Tim Walz, when were you ever in war?" Vance said. "What was this weapon that you carried into war given that you abandoned your unit right before they went to Iraq, and he has not spent a day in a combat zone?"
Vance himself served in the Marine Corps for four years, and he also never saw combat. He worked as a combat correspondent in Iraq between August 2005 and February 2006 ...
Alexander Vindman, a retired Army lieutenant colonel, wrote ... "Vance enlisted & served 4 yrs, including 6 months in Iraq in 2005 as a reporter w/ a Public Affairs section of a Marine Aircraft Wing ...
https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-military-record-combat-correspondent-tim-walz-1936875
Figarosmom
(1,179 posts)Talk about stolen Valor. He nay have been stationed in a war zone but he was not in combat anymore than the embedded media. You're right fuck him. He's the phoney.
Crowman2009
(2,729 posts)We were too busy in what little off-time we had.
Crowman2009
(2,729 posts)I know exactly where he was at in Al-Asad during my Iraq deployment in 05' (around the same time as him as well), in a big air-conditioned bunker with the rest of 2nd MAW (FWD) HQ squadron. While me and everyone else were sweating our fuckin' asses off out in the open or in not so protective structures making sure these planes kept flying. In my case I was at the Bomb Dump on a deployment with my unit MALS-42 700 Div. (Ordnance) doing aviation ordnance operations with MALS-11's 700 Div. Last time I checked, paper pusher Cpl. Vance wasn't working near several hundred tons of explosives. May have run into that asshole while I was at the PX. So yeah, fuck him!
Linda ladeewolf
(255 posts)Look this up. Its talked about in other publicati9ns, but you should be able to access this one.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/07/jd-vance-unhumans-book-jack-posobiec-alt-right-january-6/
gopiscrap
(24,111 posts)Linda ladeewolf
(255 posts)I look up lots of things. I like to share the bits and pieces hoping it will help a little.
twodogsbarking
(11,865 posts)BlueWavePsych
(3,014 posts)musclecar6
(1,857 posts)This guy is just a fucking phony. The opposite of Tim Walz and a perfect mirror image of the orange national disgrace. Vance knows the one with the bone spurs bullshit was a draft dodger during Vietnam. Although he knows he was a draft dodger, he conveniently forgets about all that with his unbridled ambition. What a dip shit.
muriel_volestrangler
(102,193 posts)DallasNE
(7,517 posts)One is eligible for promotion to E-5 after 3 years of service. Granted, the promotion is competitive and must be earned. So, did he get promoted then busted or was he just an underachiever? Somebody needs to inquire about that. I know that I made E-5 after 3 years of service.
With his record of service, he is a fine one to be slandering somebody else's military service. Trump sure can't because of his draft dodger status (alleged bone-spurs).
Glamrock
(11,930 posts)And the couch he came in/on
.