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gopiscrap

(24,111 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 01:40 PM Aug 9

Fuck JD Vance

First of all, JD Vance s as phony as they come. Probably even more than trump. trump is dumbass bullshitter and can't help himself. Vance on the other hand is super calculating and manipulative. What pisses me off most is Vance shittng on the service of US Vets. While I have never served in the military, I am the child of a deceased war casualty military veteran. My father served 26 years before he couldn't any longer. In those 26 years, he fought in Germany, did spy work in the od East Germany, served and was injured in Korea and served and was shot in Vietnam to come stateside and die from those injuries a week before Christmas when I was 7 years old. So Mr. Vance, my question is this: where in the fuck, in your conceited, selfish attitude do you get off on pissing on those who have served in the military. I for one am thankful for ALL those who have served, whether in combat or not and I grieve for the loss of families of those who have put themselves in harm's way!! So in summary, JD Vance, go fuck yourself and the couch you love!

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Fuck JD Vance (Original Post) gopiscrap Aug 9 OP
Vance is finished in the Senate and is going to Klarkashton Aug 9 #1
From elegy to eulogy Zambero Aug 9 #4
So everything Trump touches dies, GreenWave Aug 9 #5
She's just waiting out her pre-nup...nt Wounded Bear Aug 9 #15
She is holding out for Barron BigMin28 Aug 9 #57
She's definitely dead already... luvallpeeps Aug 10 #73
Just had to add a small "u." dchill Aug 9 #22
Small correction, unfortunately leftieNanner Aug 9 #7
but, hopefully, won't get reelected in a few years. AlexSFCA Aug 9 #17
Now THAT would be happy news! Nt leftieNanner Aug 9 #46
Vance is a real "Manchurian" candidate created by a billionaire NotHardly Aug 9 #12
OT but I absolutely have to watch this movie again. Well, the original one. Dave Bowman Aug 9 #32
Well said. And these people talk about 'stolen valor'. What massive hypocrites. SWBTATTReg Aug 9 #2
Still scratching my head on why the rich asshole donors wanted him........................ Lovie777 Aug 9 #3
Useful idiot. 2naSalit Aug 9 #9
They've lined him up to fast track Project 2025 LearnedHand Aug 9 #28
Soiled valor..... getagrip_already Aug 9 #6
Did you see the top Military Brass DENVERPOPS Aug 9 #60
For the sake of comparison... Tanuki Aug 9 #8
There's missing medals on Weirdo Jr's list. sarge43 Aug 9 #20
JD Vance Military Assignment (don't laugh) ElleMac Aug 9 #27
I'm just curious Skittles Aug 9 #34
No I did not, but I have deep respect for those that do gopiscrap Aug 9 #50
..... Skittles Aug 9 #52
totally agree gopiscrap Aug 9 #53
I dont think EM was trashing his service Squidly Aug 9 #63
I know Vance is a POS hypocrite Skittles Aug 10 #67
equivalent jerks apologize for this NJCher Aug 9 #35
why should someone apologize for their military history? Skittles Aug 9 #36
because NJCher Aug 9 #39
there's nothing wrong with a military desk job Skittles Aug 9 #40
no, you're wrong NJCher Aug 9 #42
I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE THE SAME JOB Skittles Aug 9 #44
this is a NJCher Aug 9 #45
Service is Service.... ElleMac Aug 9 #49
Same playbook, John Kerry, purple bandaids hibbing Aug 9 #10
It was HIDEOUSLY disgusting. calimary Aug 9 #51
And, Wednesdays Aug 9 #55
Trump and Dubya both got a Purple Heart, but it was given, not earned. keithbvadu2 Aug 9 #58
I'm a veteran . . . . SarcasticSatyr Aug 9 #11
What pisses me off more is the media treating it as a legitimate accusation. spanone Aug 9 #13
He's not my type. MineralMan Aug 9 #14
One of the things my right wing father said when he announced he was voting for Kerry Warpy Aug 9 #16
Especially in public in front of civilians sarge43 Aug 9 #23
I dunno. My dad wss involved with the Swiftboats LeftInTX Aug 9 #56
No way, even if I was the last futon on Earth! steelyboo Aug 9 #18
Vance is a punk. lpbk2713 Aug 9 #19
It's called Swiftboating ... aggiesal Aug 9 #21
that Vance does this while pimping for Cadet Bonespurs Skittles Aug 9 #24
I like marines that aren't flip-floppers. kingvitamin Aug 9 #25
I think Vance says whatever Peter Thiel tells him to say FakeNoose Aug 9 #41
Vance was a REMF Klondike Kat Aug 9 #26
Fuck JD Vance? If you don't mind, I'd rather not! Leave that to the couch! Doodley Aug 9 #29
I'm sorry for your loss Clouds Passing Aug 9 #30
I like how you couched your opinion of Vance in the vernacular Generic Brad Aug 9 #31
He's too icky, I'm not a couch XanaDUer2 Aug 9 #33
He was selected because he is as phony as tfg liberal N proud Aug 9 #37
... and the cat he rode in on Eddie18 Aug 9 #38
For anyone who remembers Jim Croce (Bad, Bad.....) DFW Aug 9 #43
Tip of the hat BattleRow Aug 9 #59
Soundtrack completed DFW Aug 10 #69
Love it! Squidly Aug 9 #66
He's the best example I can think of Zoomie1986 Aug 9 #47
Vance's military record under scrutiny struggle4progress Aug 9 #48
He served 4 years as a reporter Figarosmom Aug 9 #54
Trust me, no one in my squadron read any of his shit. Crowman2009 Aug 9 #62
One time I even out-ranked JD Vance and was in the USMC at the same time he was! Crowman2009 Aug 9 #61
This is what Shady Vance stands for Linda ladeewolf Aug 9 #64
thanks gopiscrap Aug 9 #65
You are welcome Linda ladeewolf Aug 10 #68
He is a supreme asshole. Leave the military out of it, supreme asshole. twodogsbarking Aug 10 #70
JD Vance is such a WEIRDO BlueWavePsych Aug 10 #71
Obviously musclecar6 Aug 10 #72
... and the couch he rode in on! (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 10 #74
Why Was JD Vance Only An E-4 When He Got Out After 4 Years? DallasNE Aug 10 #75
Yeah fuck JD Vance Glamrock Aug 10 #76
"more cushon for the pushin" BlueWavePsych Aug 10 #77

BigMin28

(1,350 posts)
57. She is holding out for Barron
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:12 PM
Aug 9

I think she has worked a deal with TSF that will leave Barron with whatever is left when the menace dies. She loathes his other children.

luvallpeeps

(973 posts)
73. She's definitely dead already...
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:31 PM
Aug 10

inside at least. So far. Wonder which hole she’ll be buried on. 🏌️

leftieNanner

(15,563 posts)
7. Small correction, unfortunately
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 02:05 PM
Aug 9

When he loses in November, he will return to the Senate, as John McCain did in 2008.

Lovie777

(14,233 posts)
3. Still scratching my head on why the rich asshole donors wanted him........................
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 01:54 PM
Aug 9

the logic eludes me. Did they want a mini shithole?

2naSalit

(91,221 posts)
9. Useful idiot.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 02:33 PM
Aug 9

As long as he can keep his cult followers in line, since they are the most violent group in the country, they can get whatever they want by having their peeps in the important places driving the show. He's becoming a bit problematic as he melts down prematurely for them.

LearnedHand

(3,891 posts)
28. They've lined him up to fast track Project 2025
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 04:00 PM
Aug 9

when TSF keels over about two weeks after the inaugural.

Okay that might be slightly exaggerated.

getagrip_already

(16,965 posts)
6. Soiled valor.....
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 02:00 PM
Aug 9

It doesnt get much lower than that. He gets credit for being a marine, regardless of assignment or length of service, but that doesnt give him license to throw shit on the honor of other veterans or active service soldiers.

He should be recalled and court martialed.

DENVERPOPS

(9,718 posts)
60. Did you see the top Military Brass
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:15 PM
Aug 9

coming down on his bullshit comments about WALZ today????????????

Holy Crap, he and Trump can't help themselves from disparaging remarks and shit throwing good people......

sarge43

(29,118 posts)
20. There's missing medals on Weirdo Jr's list.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 03:15 PM
Aug 9

1. National Defense Service Medal - awarded for service from 11 Sept 2001
2. Iraq Campaign Medal - awarded from March 2003 to December 2011 for assignment in Iraq for minimum 30 consecutive day or 60 non-consecutive days.

Has his 214 shown up on the internet or he just lying his ass off again?

ElleMac

(6 posts)
27. JD Vance Military Assignment (don't laugh)
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 03:58 PM
Aug 9

So here's JD's MOS (think: Military Job Description). I'm not sure he's qualified to utter the word "valor".

Marine Corps Combat Correspondent Enlisted
4341 MOS
Combat correspondents gather news and feature information for use in command newspapers, magazines, and websites, on AFN radio and television, and for internal and external release; respond to queries from the civilian media; perform media liaison functions during operations/exercises; conduct community relations programs; produce print and photographic materials; and edit/produce command newspapers and/or magazines and assist in the management and production of Marine Corps websites.
Produce SAPP compliant products; Respond to query/correspondence; Conduct interviews; Write stories; Shoot photographs; Write captions or cut-lines; Copy-edit print products

Escort media representatives; Determine the level of release authority; Conduct interview with external media; Coordinate an educators' workshop; Produce Public Affairs campaign plan; Edit a newspaper/magazine; Review newspapers/magazines; Produce phones/beepers

Skittles

(157,297 posts)
52. .....
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:41 PM
Aug 9

I'm disgusted seeing people who never served trashing the service of others, even if it is Vance - he's a fucking asshole but he DID serve......my big issue with him is he is pimping for a guy who shits on the military, THAT is disgusting.

Squidly

(867 posts)
63. I dont think EM was trashing his service
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:47 PM
Aug 9

Could have done without the "dont laugh" comment, but I think EM was just pointing out his MOS description. The point I think EM was trying to make is that Vance really has no right bashing Coach for not seeing combat when he himself didn't see it either. Vance is a POS, but he did serve. As did I in case you are wondering.

Skittles

(157,297 posts)
67. I know Vance is a POS hypocrite
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:03 AM
Aug 10

but I don't like seeing anyone who didn't serve at all judging those who did

NJCher

(37,354 posts)
35. equivalent jerks apologize for this
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 04:16 PM
Aug 9

George Noory, one of the nation's most overrated and useless radio hosts, has a military history like that--same type of thing, press release, writing, that sort of thing. Noory, even though he is a rw jerk and gun enthusiast, at least has the savvy to apologize for his military history when it is brought up. He will even come right out and say to a guest who has service, that his record is not equivalent.

Skittles

(157,297 posts)
36. why should someone apologize for their military history?
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 04:19 PM
Aug 9

why are we trashing the service of others? The biggest issue for me is that Vance is pimping for Cadet Bonespurs

Skittles

(157,297 posts)
40. there's nothing wrong with a military desk job
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 04:42 PM
Aug 9

trashing the service of another, especially if you did not serve, is not cool.....the problem is NOT Vance's military service, it's that he is pimping for Cadet Bonespurs while trashing the service of another

NJCher

(37,354 posts)
42. no, you're wrong
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 05:10 PM
Aug 9

Sitting behind a desk is not the same as active field involvement. It just isn't.

If a distinction is not made, many will not look any further than just saying they served. That is what you are advocating. Let Vance present himself as having done service that's equivalent to Walz's.

And keep in mind--that's my background--writing press releases and all the stuff Vance did. If anyone should know, it is I.

It's like saying a physical education degree and a physics degree are equivalent. They're not.

-------------

also why are you putting words in the mouth of other posters? No one is trashing: just drawing attention to the fact that the jobs aren't the same., Please do not do this again.

Skittles

(157,297 posts)
44. I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE THE SAME JOB
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 05:22 PM
Aug 9

but they are BOTH service to one's country

people who did not serve need to STFU about the service of others, and vets like Vance who are pimping for Trump need to STFU too

DONE HERE

ElleMac

(6 posts)
49. Service is Service....
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 07:56 PM
Aug 9

Under normal circumstances, I stand in gratitude for ALL men and women that sign on the dotted line with their life to maintain my freedom. All MOSs know how to shoot a gun and can be called to the front line at anytime. Vance isn't normal; he started the conversation questioning Walz's service. I'm merely suggesting that if he wants to go there....let's go there. He's judgmental. Just as he stands in judgement of the very personal choices made by women about their bodies. He doesn't get to have it both ways. IMHO

hibbing

(10,373 posts)
10. Same playbook, John Kerry, purple bandaids
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 02:37 PM
Aug 9

And the delegates just thought it was so so funny. It is absolutely disgusting.

Forward

calimary

(83,613 posts)
51. It was HIDEOUSLY disgusting.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:38 PM
Aug 9

Not to mention FUCKED. Really nice and patriotic, 'eh? Make fun of the Purple Heart. Wear your stupid, idiotic, unredeemable "purple heart bandaids. Yeah, I bet those who won the Purple Heart the hard way REEEEEEEEEEALLY appreciated that.

And they say WE'RE the ones who don't respect the military...

spanone

(137,335 posts)
13. What pisses me off more is the media treating it as a legitimate accusation.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 02:51 PM
Aug 9

FUCK VANCE AND THE MEDIA THAT PROMOTES THIS SHIT.

Warpy

(112,938 posts)
16. One of the things my right wing father said when he announced he was voting for Kerry
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 03:04 PM
Aug 9

was how shameul it was for a veteran to disparage another veteran's service, now matter how or where that service was done as long as it was done honorably.

I just hope there are more vets like my dad this time around and that smearing a vet who served honorably, even staying in the US, for 24 years is going to blow the shit right back into JD's stupid face.

LeftInTX

(29,364 posts)
56. I dunno. My dad wss involved with the Swiftboats
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:01 PM
Aug 9

Good God. He was down some rabbit hole. My dad was a pilot in Korea and later Vietnam. He was active duty 1948-69.

I'm sure some of them attended his funeral.


I'm surprised that swiftboat guy is still alive.

aggiesal

(9,343 posts)
21. It's called Swiftboating ...
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 03:16 PM
Aug 9

It worked on John Kerry, we can't let this work on Tim Walz.
We need to stop this where ever it happens. If you hear friends or even family, shoot it down fast.

Here is why this is happening.

With ‘Swift Boat’ architect at the helm, Trump campaign uses familiar playbook against Walz

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/09/politics/tim-walz-service-swift-boat-attacks/index.html

kingvitamin

(101 posts)
25. I like marines that aren't flip-floppers.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 03:49 PM
Aug 9
“I can't stomach Trump,”

-JD Vance

“I think that he’s noxious and is leading the white working class to a very dark place.”

-JD Vance

“Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office,”

-JD Vance

"I'm a never Trump guy"

-JD Vance

Klondike Kat

(840 posts)
26. Vance was a REMF
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 03:54 PM
Aug 9

A "correspondent". If he came anywhere close to combat he was most likely keeping his head and arse very close to the ground.

DFW

(56,051 posts)
43. For anyone who remembers Jim Croce (Bad, Bad.....)
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 05:16 PM
Aug 9

1.
In a place called Mar-a-Lago
Lives a man named Donald Trump
He is loose with his diction
Can’t tell fact from fiction
No smarter than Forrest Gump

Now Donald got his bankers
To lend him a billion or two
He said just let me borrow what I’ll pay back tomorrow
But that’s something he would never do.

Chorus:
And it’s bad, bad Donald Trump
Bad for the nation like a toxic dump
Larger than old King Kong
Meaner than a right-wing blog

2.
Now Don was in the White House
Caused us a great big mess
Thought he could fudge it and destroyed our budget
Then he called it a success

Now he’s come back for a replay
And it’s widely understood
The more we go shootin’ pleases his old pal Putin
But some folks think that’s good

Chorus:
And it’s bad, bad Donald Trump
Bigger and fatter than a camel’s hump
Larger than old King Kong
Meaner than a right wing blog

3.
Now Donald got him a V P
A guy named J D Vance
Said, “the guy sounds crazy,
“And since I am lazy,
“(I’m) gonna bring him to the dance.”

So, they flew up to Milwaukee
Confirmed people’s fears
Big nomination, but it caused no sensation
And it bored everyone to tears



Chorus:
And it’s bad, bad Donald Trump
Bad for the nation like a toxic dump
Larger than old King Kong
Meaner than a right wing blog


4.
But J D has his own plans
Which Donald doesn’t know,
Thinks, “if we’re elected
“Then I am selected
“To ditch him and run the show!”

Final chorus:
And it’s bad, bad, J D Vance
He’ll take over given half a chance
Badder than old King Kong
Meaner than a right-wing blog

Yeah, it’s bad, bad, J D Vance
He’ll take over given half a chance
Badder than old King Kong
Meaner than a right-wing blog

Badder than old King Kong
Meaner than a right-wing blog
-----------------------------------
**and yes, this one is already in production!!

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
47. He's the best example I can think of
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 06:30 PM
Aug 9

For why this blanket 'thank you for your service' bleating needs to stop.

When you say that, you have no idea whatsoever if the person is deserving of it. I'm a vet, and i can assure you that not every service member was worthy of the uniform. Every veteran will tell you that they've worked with just as many idiots and toxic personalities as they ever did in civilian life.

They're people, like anyone else. Some of them have jobs where they get shot at, and those people rate a bit higher, but, in most cases during the modern era, it's still only a job where the difference from what civilians do would be the weird rules we had to follow.

I've worked elsewhere in the federal government, and, honestly, I was prouder of that work, and the job was far more demanding, than what I did for the military. But I don't get any thanks at all for the fed job, other than a cheap certificate after retiring from it.

struggle4progress

(119,618 posts)
48. Vance's military record under scrutiny
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 06:43 PM
Aug 9

Published Aug 09, 2024 at 7:15 AM EDT
Updated Aug 09, 2024 at 4:38 PM EDT
By Ewan Palmer

... Walz, who spent 24 years in the National Guard, left in 2005 months before the battalion he led was notified that it would to be deployed to Iraq. Vance also appeared to reference previous comments from Walz in which the governor said, "We can make sure that those weapons of war, that I carried in war, is the only place where those weapons were at."

"Well, I wonder Tim Walz, when were you ever in war?" Vance said. "What was this weapon that you carried into war given that you abandoned your unit right before they went to Iraq, and he has not spent a day in a combat zone?"

Vance himself served in the Marine Corps for four years, and he also never saw combat. He worked as a combat correspondent in Iraq between August 2005 and February 2006 ...

Alexander Vindman, a retired Army lieutenant colonel, wrote ... "Vance enlisted & served 4 yrs, including 6 months in Iraq in 2005 as a reporter w/ a Public Affairs section of a Marine Aircraft Wing ...

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-military-record-combat-correspondent-tim-walz-1936875

Figarosmom

(1,179 posts)
54. He served 4 years as a reporter
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:51 PM
Aug 9

Talk about stolen Valor. He nay have been stationed in a war zone but he was not in combat anymore than the embedded media. You're right fuck him. He's the phoney.

Crowman2009

(2,729 posts)
61. One time I even out-ranked JD Vance and was in the USMC at the same time he was!
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 11:08 PM
Aug 9

I know exactly where he was at in Al-Asad during my Iraq deployment in 05' (around the same time as him as well), in a big air-conditioned bunker with the rest of 2nd MAW (FWD) HQ squadron. While me and everyone else were sweating our fuckin' asses off out in the open or in not so protective structures making sure these planes kept flying. In my case I was at the Bomb Dump on a deployment with my unit MALS-42 700 Div. (Ordnance) doing aviation ordnance operations with MALS-11's 700 Div. Last time I checked, paper pusher Cpl. Vance wasn't working near several hundred tons of explosives. May have run into that asshole while I was at the PX. So yeah, fuck him!

musclecar6

(1,857 posts)
72. Obviously
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 11:28 AM
Aug 10

This guy is just a fucking phony. The opposite of Tim Walz and a perfect mirror image of the orange national disgrace. Vance knows the one with the bone spurs bullshit was a draft dodger during Vietnam. Although he knows he was a draft dodger, he conveniently forgets about all that with his unbridled ambition. What a dip shit.

DallasNE

(7,517 posts)
75. Why Was JD Vance Only An E-4 When He Got Out After 4 Years?
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 04:11 PM
Aug 10

One is eligible for promotion to E-5 after 3 years of service. Granted, the promotion is competitive and must be earned. So, did he get promoted then busted or was he just an underachiever? Somebody needs to inquire about that. I know that I made E-5 after 3 years of service.

With his record of service, he is a fine one to be slandering somebody else's military service. Trump sure can't because of his draft dodger status (alleged bone-spurs).

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