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LetMyPeopleVote

(179,859 posts)
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 04:21 PM Aug 2024

JD Vance is vegetarian



I hate to break it to MAGA boys, but JD Vance is vegetarian. 44% of Hindu households are solely plant-based and an additional 39% seriously limit the amount of meat they consume. Usha praised JD for adapting to her diet. So enjoy that tidbit MAGA carnivores!
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JD Vance is vegetarian (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 OP
He's still a meathead underpants Aug 2024 #1
And full of BULL Zambero Aug 2024 #10
Wasn't hitler a vegetarian? JohnSJ Aug 2024 #2
Yes, Hitler was a vegetarian kansasobama Aug 2024 #6
Of course not, I am vegetarian myself JohnSJ Aug 2024 #23
No, that was Nazi propaganda. Hitler was never a vegetarian. Coventina Aug 2024 #16
False. He was a vegetarian later on in his life, up until his death. Celerity Aug 2024 #32
No he was a vegetarian during the war... Jk23 Aug 2024 #37
Untrue. former9thward Aug 2024 #40
I'm trying to find a link Diamond_Dog Aug 2024 #3
Here it is - he is feeding his daughter in it FreeState Aug 2024 #14
Thank you! Diamond_Dog Aug 2024 #18
So this is more bullshit embraced on DU? Arthur_Frain Aug 2024 #44
It's entirely possible he eats his wife's vegetarian Indian cooking when home Diamond_Dog Aug 2024 #47
Wouldn't doubt it for a minute. MontanaMama Aug 2024 #51
Shit nor Chumps dick are vegetables. TheKentuckian Aug 2024 #4
That's considered pretty "woke" to lots of right-wingers. Not just LeftinOH Aug 2024 #5
HE WANTS TO GET RID OF YOUR CHEESEBERDERS!!!!!!!! rsdsharp Aug 2024 #7
I can't wait for all the "soy boy" epithets... keep_left Aug 2024 #8
No way he doesn't cheat when she's not looking cpamomfromtexas Aug 2024 #9
I know several vegetarians who are very heavy. former9thward Aug 2024 #11
A lot of them are very fat nowadays espicailly the young ones. Jk23 Aug 2024 #38
I wouldn't say "a lot". milestogo Aug 2024 #55
My brother's wife is Indian. He has multiple mistresses...all of them bacon cheeseburgers. PeaceWave Aug 2024 #12
Not necessarily. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2024 #17
Plenty of vegetarians are obese Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #50
That pork ball? tavernier Aug 2024 #13
I doubt it. n/t valleyrogue Aug 2024 #15
Does that put Texas in play? nt hvn_nbr_2 Aug 2024 #19
It's worse than that dpibel Aug 2024 #20
What's funny is this is kinda a redeeming quality of his that he going to hide like his life depends on it ColinC Aug 2024 #22
It's gotta be tough being a closet herbivore Zambero Aug 2024 #30
If he were a Democrat, MAGA would call him a cuck NickB79 Aug 2024 #25
What a snowflake ColinC Aug 2024 #21
He's still got the world's most punchable face FakeNoose Aug 2024 #24
He looks like Sara huckabee mercuryblues Aug 2024 #34
... FakeNoose Aug 2024 #36
That's rare Arthur_Frain Aug 2024 #45
D'ya think he'll keep the beard? keithbvadu2 Aug 2024 #56
The patented Republican "I'm pretending to be serious" sour puss Diamond_Dog Aug 2024 #58
He looks different without the eye makeup. willamette Aug 2024 #42
I don't believe that bucolic_frolic Aug 2024 #26
Unfortunately that isn't the truth FreeState Aug 2024 #33
A high carb diet is not a healthy vegetarian diet. bucolic_frolic Aug 2024 #35
In these modern times the vegetarians are often fatter than average. Jk23 Aug 2024 #39
French fries and regular Coke are vegan... RockRaven Aug 2024 #53
Quite often the fries are not, especially in the US. For example: Celerity Aug 2024 #61
SCANDAL!! Bayard Aug 2024 #27
Hitler was a vegetarian. (NT) The Wizard Aug 2024 #28
Some hard-core evangelicals believe vegetarianism is demonic-adjacent, because Timeflyer Aug 2024 #29
Little do they know... hunter Aug 2024 #43
But he LOVES a nicely stuffed leather sofa! BamaRefugee Aug 2024 #31
I don't think right-wingers care about this as much as we think they do Polybius Aug 2024 #41
Yeah, but Elon fits into their chosen racist, fascist, asshole flvegan Aug 2024 #46
"Yeah, but Elon fits into their chosen racist, fascist, asshole" Polybius Aug 2024 #49
Well, that explains a lot. And not in a good way. Meat, it's what's for dinner. And sanity. mucholderthandirt Aug 2024 #48
Care to explain yourself? flvegan Aug 2024 #60
So no McDonald's with his convicted felon running mate? kimbutgar Aug 2024 #52
There's a segment of the far right who adopt vegetarian or vegan lifestyles. orange jar Aug 2024 #54
"Usha praised JD for adapting to her diet." keithbvadu2 Aug 2024 #57
It was probably a requirement for them to be together JI7 Aug 2024 #59

kansasobama

(1,750 posts)
6. Yes, Hitler was a vegetarian
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 04:26 PM
Aug 2024

Being vegetarian does not mean they will be good to humans.

Coventina

(29,731 posts)
16. No, that was Nazi propaganda. Hitler was never a vegetarian.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 05:03 PM
Aug 2024

They were trying to make him seem soft and cuddly, like he wouldn't even hurt animals, much less humans.

When this lie is repeated now, it's mostly to try and draw an equivalency between the two:

Hitler = vegetarian
therefore
Vegetarians = Hitler

It was always just Nazi propaganda.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
32. False. He was a vegetarian later on in his life, up until his death.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 06:36 PM
Aug 2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Hitler_and_vegetarianism

Near the end of his life, Adolf Hitler (1889–1945) followed a vegetarian diet. It is not clear when or why he adopted it, since some accounts of his dietary habits prior to the Second World War indicate that he consumed meat as late as 1937. In 1938, Hitler's doctors put him on a meat-free diet, and his public image as a vegetarian was fostered; from 1942, he self-identified as a vegetarian. Personal accounts from people who knew Hitler and were familiar with his diet indicate that he did not consume meat as part of his diet during this period, as several contemporaneous witnesses—such as Albert Speer (in his memoirs, Inside the Third Reich)—noted that Hitler used vivid and gruesome descriptions of animal suffering and slaughter at the dinner table to try to dissuade his colleagues from eating meat.

An examination carried out by French scientists on a fragment of Hitler's skull in 2018 found no traces of meat fibre in the tartar on Hitler's teeth. Some modern-day analyses have speculated that Hitler's vegetarianism may have been for health reasons due to Richard Wagner's historical theories, or even a psychological reaction to his niece's death rather than a commitment to animal welfare. In contrast, several eyewitness sources maintain Hitler was a vegetarian because of his concern for animal suffering, noting that he was often distressed by images of animal cruelty and suffering, and was an antivivisectionist.

Contemporary records

In a 1937 article, The New York Times noted "It is well known that Hitler is a vegetarian and does not drink or smoke. The lunch and dinner consist, therefore, for the most part of soup, eggs, vegetables and mineral water, although he occasionally relishes a slice of ham and relieves the tediousness of his diet with such delicacies as caviar ...". In another 1937 article Times magazine noted "Strictly vegetarian and teetotaler Adolf Hitler made the great exception last week of nibbling clear through the State banquet he gave Benito Mussolini and toasting his guest in sweet German champagne. Menu: caviar, soup, sole, chicken, ices and fresh fruit". In November 1938, an article for the English magazine Homes & Gardens describing Hitler's mountain home, The Berghof, stated that in addition to being a teetotaler and a non-smoker, Hitler was also a vegetarian. Ignatius Phayre wrote, "A life-long vegetarian at table, Hitler's kitchen plots are both varied and heavy in produce. Even in his meatless diet Hitler is something of a gourmet – as Sir John Simon and Anthony Eden were surprised to note when they dined with him in the Chancellery at Berlin. His Bavarian chef, Herr Kannenberg, contrives an imposing array of vegetarian dishes, savoury and rich, pleasing to the eye as well as to the palate, and all conforming to the dietic standards which Hitler exacts."

According to stenographic transcripts translated by Hugh Trevor-Roper of conversations between Hitler and his inner circle which took place between July 1941 and November 1944, Hitler regarded himself as a vegetarian. These conversations were gathered together under the title Hitler's Table Talk. Written notes taken at the time were transcribed and then were edited by Martin Bormann. According to these transcripts dated 11 November 1941, Hitler said, "One may regret living at a period when it's impossible to form an idea of the shape the world of the future will assume. But there's one thing I can predict to eaters of meat: the world of the future will be vegetarian." On 12 January 1942, he said, "The only thing of which I shall be incapable is to share the sheiks' mutton with them. I'm a vegetarian, and they must spare me from their meat." In a diary entry dated 26 April 1942, Joseph Goebbels described Hitler as a committed vegetarian, writing,



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Jk23

(455 posts)
37. No he was a vegetarian during the war...
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:11 PM
Aug 2024

The Nazis kept records about everything including Hitler's meals. He almost always had vegetarian dishes and would complain if they were not to his liking. Hitler was also an animal rights advocate as well. He had some strange views for well Hitler.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
40. Untrue.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 09:59 PM
Aug 2024

Hitler was a vegetarian. To suggest it was Nazi propaganda is ridiculous. Germans love their meat.

Diamond_Dog

(40,575 posts)
3. I'm trying to find a link
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 04:24 PM
Aug 2024

But when he ran against Tim Ryan he aired a commercial cooking bacon for his daughter for breakfast (in someone else’s kitchen)

He is about as vegetarian as Trumpy.

Diamond_Dog

(40,575 posts)
47. It's entirely possible he eats his wife's vegetarian Indian cooking when home
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 08:25 AM
Aug 2024

and then chows down on Big Macs when he’s away from home, don’t you think?

LeftinOH

(5,648 posts)
5. That's considered pretty "woke" to lots of right-wingers. Not just
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 04:26 PM
Aug 2024

"woke" -- but borderline communist.

keep_left

(3,210 posts)
8. I can't wait for all the "soy boy" epithets...
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 04:37 PM
Aug 2024

...from all the 4chan incel MAGA chuds. They certainly hurled the insults when they were at CPAC.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219284180#post12

 

Jk23

(455 posts)
38. A lot of them are very fat nowadays espicailly the young ones.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:12 PM
Aug 2024

These are not seventies style vegetarians with healthy diets. These are processed food eating junk food devouring vegetarians.

milestogo

(23,082 posts)
55. I wouldn't say "a lot".
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 04:10 PM
Aug 2024

But its possible to be a "junk food vegetarian" - which is a way to describe someone who abstains from meat but still eats a steady diet of junk food, especially sweets.

dpibel

(3,943 posts)
20. It's worse than that
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 05:24 PM
Aug 2024

Not merely vegetarian, but vegetarian because his wife made him do it.

That seems far more damning to the incels.

ColinC

(11,098 posts)
22. What's funny is this is kinda a redeeming quality of his that he going to hide like his life depends on it
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 05:26 PM
Aug 2024

FakeNoose

(41,634 posts)
24. He's still got the world's most punchable face
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 05:36 PM
Aug 2024


JD Vance - beardless - looks like a wise-ass 18-year-old kid.


mercuryblues

(16,413 posts)
34. He looks like Sara huckabee
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 07:19 PM
Aug 2024

Come to think of it, I've never seen them in the same room together.

FreeState

(10,702 posts)
33. Unfortunately that isn't the truth
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 07:12 PM
Aug 2024

I've been vegetarian for over 25 years. I have been overweight and met lots of vegetarians that also have been overweight.

There is lots of junk food that is vegetarian:
Various cold cereals
Semi-Sweet Chocolate Mini-Chips
Duncan Hines Chewy Fudge Brownies
Airheads
Cracker Jack
Doritos (depending on the type)
Fritos
Potato Chips
Granola bars
Ritz Crackers
Wheat Thins
Chocolate Syrup
Tator Tots
Oreos
Jellos pudding
Lots of candy
etc

There are also lots of studies that show its not the case:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15941875/

Results: The prevalence of overweight or obesity (BMI >/= 25) was 40% among omnivores, 29% among both semivegetarians and vegans, and 25% among lactovegetarians. In multivariate, adjusted logistic regression analyses, self-identified vegans had a significantly lower risk of overweight or obesity [odds ratio (OR) = 0.35; 95% CI: 0.18, 0.69] than did omnivores, as did lactovegetarians (OR = 0.54; 95% CI: 0.35, 0.85) and semivegetarians (OR = 0.52; 95% CI: 0.43, 0.62). Risk of overweight or obesity remained significantly lower among lactovegetarians classified on the basis of the food-frequency questionnaire (OR = 0.48; 95% CI: 0.30, 0.78).
 

Jk23

(455 posts)
39. In these modern times the vegetarians are often fatter than average.
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 08:15 PM
Aug 2024

So many pre-made vegetarian meals are filled with processed junk and tons of salt.

RockRaven

(19,373 posts)
53. French fries and regular Coke are vegan...
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 04:04 PM
Aug 2024

I could walk into the nearest fast food place of any type and get 1000+ calories of food and drink which is vegetarian or even vegan without any hassle or thought.

Celerity

(54,407 posts)
61. Quite often the fries are not, especially in the US. For example:
Sun Aug 11, 2024, 03:13 AM
Aug 2024
https://sentientmedia.org/are-mcdonalds-fries-vegan/

Are McDonald’s Fries Vegan?

Unfortunately, McDonald’s french fries are not vegan, and the animal-based ingredient may surprise you.

McDonald’s French Fries Ingredients
The ingredients of McDonald’s french fries are:

Potatoes
Vegetable oil (canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, hydrogenated soybean oil, natural beef flavor)
Dextrose
Sodium acid
Pyrophosphate
Salt

Why Are McDonald’s Fries Not Vegan in the U.S.?

Many people assume the beef flavoring in french fries is the key component that takes them off the menu for vegans. While this is true, there is another culprit: milk. The “natural beef flavor” is actually derived from dairy products, making this product unsuitable for vegan customers. This is also true of McDonald’s other potato products, like hash browns.

It’s possible that the chain’s french fries are non-vegetarian as well. Companies are not required to disclose the ingredients of their natural or artificial flavorings (with the exception of common allergens like peanuts or milk). Since McDonald’s has not voluntarily revealed the chemical ingredients of their “natural beef flavoring,” other than wheat and milk derivatives, it’s unclear if the fries are vegetarian either.

McDonald’s has a long history of obscuring ingredients that aren’t vegetarian or vegan. In 2002, they paid millions of dollars to Hindu groups to settle a lawsuit based on advertisements that falsely stated their french fries contained no beef additives.

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Bayard

(29,686 posts)
27. SCANDAL!!
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 05:48 PM
Aug 2024

Next you'll have dogs living with cats, cats living with dogs, father rapers and mother stabbers!

Timeflyer

(3,756 posts)
29. Some hard-core evangelicals believe vegetarianism is demonic-adjacent, because
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 05:52 PM
Aug 2024

the deity created all those beasts, etc. for human consumption. (Not kidding--saw this in "Philadelphia Trumpet" magazine published by the Philadelphia Church of God. Someone had slipped a copy amongst the waiting room magazines at my doctor's office--if my doctor actually subscribed, I'd find another)

Polybius

(21,900 posts)
41. I don't think right-wingers care about this as much as we think they do
Fri Aug 9, 2024, 10:14 PM
Aug 2024

They love Elon, and he's pro-electric.

flvegan

(66,279 posts)
46. Yeah, but Elon fits into their chosen racist, fascist, asshole
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:18 AM
Aug 2024

wanna-be-douchebro demographic, so his whole "electric" thing gets a pass. Especially since he's allegedly helping Trump.

Oh, and fuck Elon. And Tesla.

Polybius

(21,900 posts)
49. "Yeah, but Elon fits into their chosen racist, fascist, asshole"
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:36 PM
Aug 2024

Well so does Vance.

As for Elon, he's actually getting them to buy Tesla's. Wouldn't it be funny if Elon is pretending to be a right-winger just to get them to go electric?

orange jar

(878 posts)
54. There's a segment of the far right who adopt vegetarian or vegan lifestyles.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 04:04 PM
Aug 2024

Usually to coincide with racist stereotypes against Asians, or to appease their fake viking ancestors, or because of their Nordic pagan religion (not disparaging paganism as a whole — just the far right variant), or because they're the conspiracy theorist raw naturalist types.

Of course this will cause the nutballs who make fun of imaginary avocado toast liberals twist themselves into pretzels explaining how it's okay if Vance is one, but many won't care. Hell, it may score him some points with the vegan white nationalists who think Trump is too friendly to Jews.

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
57. "Usha praised JD for adapting to her diet."
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 04:20 PM
Aug 2024

JD apologized that his wife is not white.

Some of his own party members are criticizing him for it.

JI7

(93,616 posts)
59. It was probably a requirement for them to be together
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 05:12 PM
Aug 2024

It's kind of a common thing even among Hindus where some vegetarians will require the person they are dating to become vegetarian also in order to stay together or get married.


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