When are we going to stop the major discussion ABOUT CROWD SIZE.

[LakeArenal]

Mine is bigger than yours.

It seems like penis envy. Why can’t media ignore that trump lie? It’s such a stupid frame of reference.

[BlueInPhilly]

1. How about NEVER?

Your concern is duly noted. Thank you.

[WA-03 Democrat]

55. How about non stop for the next 87 days

People want to be at a Harris Walz event and the size is a reflection of the demand. Trump’s act is old and tried. We are not going back.

[peachpit24]

59. This is

Politics. Not please be nice. Democrats have tried that for too long. It's time we do what really bothers him. He's bullied us enough. Give him a taste of his own medicine.

[Oopsie Daisy]

2. I enjoy mocking his small crowd. I enjoy his reactions and how "triggered" he is.

[Raven123]

26. Exactly. It's making him nuttier than his baseline nuttiness

[Oopsie Daisy]

29. And his outrageous, demonstrably false statements are the cherry-on-top.

[Maeve]

3. It's funny because tsf is obsessed with lying

And now that Kamala is drawing bigger crowds, it gets under his thin skin and makes him crazy (well, crazier) and yeah, weirder

[Sympthsical]

4. It hits Trump in just the right place

His ego and narcissism are everything. Anything that pricks it drives him into making crazier and more outlandish claims. It unhinges him.

So highlighting Harris crowds vs. Trump crowds drives him batty and leads to him looking more unhinged than his usual base level of batshit.

It's useful for us to get him riled up. Getting him frenzied then letting him talk in public is a useful tool. Just in general, it's a good look for us. But then comparing it to a controlled, competent, and happy Harris/Walz campaign, and it's drawing a very deep contrast in appealing to voters.

[dalton99a]

32. +1.

[gab13by13]

5. Keep it going

it keeps the narrative with us. Who controls the narrative is important.

Now, I wish I could get people to stop calling a fence a wall.

[Metaphorical]

6. Because we're in a ratings war

Seriously, there's nothing that says successful campaign like shots of large auditorium filled with people, and nothing that says flailing campaign like half-empty venues. The corporate media is increasingly facing online competition with bloggers putting up youtube videos and getting more eyeballs than your 24/7 "news" channels, and they can only not show these things for so long before they get scooped.

Moreover, people ARE influenced by these things. A campaign that seemingly has a lot of energy and excitement gets people out to vote, but one that seems boring and dull makes people less likely to vote. They want to belong to the winning team.

[yankee87]

7. NEVER

It shows the rapist is constantly lying and also our enthusiasm

[kentuck]

8. Small crowds, small intellect, small fingers...

'nuff said.

[Autumn]

9. Does it bother you? It bugs the shit out of Demented Don. And it should be talked about, Kamala

is drawing remarkable crowds. Know why? People are hopeful and joyful and just plain unafraid for the first time in a long, long time.

[randr]

10. When tfg stops bragging about his crowd size

[lees1975]

11. It gets mentioned as an aside by Democrats, because Trump makes such a huge deal out of it

and it gets under his skin, clearly. Big time. Not like it's some kind of major emphasis of the campaign, like it is for him.

If it distracts him and makes him waste time addressing such a trivial and insignificant detail, then why not? Though it is worth mentioning that the Harris/Walz rally in Glendale, Arizona was perhaps the largest such political gathering in state history.

[anciano]

12. Exactly....

Apparently it's his Achilles heel.

[magicarpet]

61. It pisses trDUMP off royally that Kamala

... would draw larger crowds that he does.

The fact that it is demonstrably easy to prove - makes it all that much better. A wall of full seats compared to a wall of empty seats do not lie. It is a visual reminder how much of a prevaricating fucking liar this trDUMP clown is.

We would be foolish not to drive this point home each and every chance we get.

[Keepthesoulalive]

13. When he is no longer a threat

It withers his little narcissistic heart and I am good with that. Oh and Stormy let us know about the size of his acorn ,so much for penis waving contest.

[JohnSJ]

14. As far as I am aware there was only ONE PERSON who started this, and that was the

pathological liar.

[Johnny2X2X]

15. Trump cannot let it go

It’s a weakness for him. Egg him on and troll him. Makes him sound more unhinged and petty.

[valleyrogue]

16. Crowd size has no bearing on election results. None. Zip.

I mentioned in another post that in 2004 in Reno, Bush and Cheney, especially the latter, drew small crowds. It had no bearing on the election results.

[displacedvermoter]

47. But this is an entirely different time and place

and we are talking more about setting a tone that will lead to positive election results. Watch Trump go crazy, for example, if crowd size gets brought up during the ABC debate. It could completely go haywire for him and make him look demented on live TV.

Trump has made the last three campaigns about optics, and the discussions about crowd size, are key to that whole optics vibe.

[Zoomie1986]

71. Don't insult our intelligence as if we're too stupid to know

What wins campaigns.

Democrats know, better than anyone, that crowd size doesn't win elections. After all, we saw in primaries during 2016 and 2020 that crowd sizes didn't win a nomination. Did you forget how Hillary and Biden both beat Sanders, and how it made his looniest fans lose their minds over it, into making ridiculous accusations of cheating their dear leader out of the nomination? How could HRC and Biden beat their hero when they didn't get rallies to turn out for him?

Been there, done that.

Pointing out how well-attended the Harris rallies are is rubbing the other guy's nose in it, because we know that he is the one who thinks that crowd size correlates to chances of winning. It's to goad him into making mistakes and saying stupid things.

And since you don't seem to have noticed, it's working.

Do keep up.

[lastlib]

17. We can't HARpoon him, so we have to LAMpoon him....

Anything to get under his skin and diminish him in the eyes of his cult. Taking him down a few pegs is the way to beat a narcissist.

[LizBeth]

18. I saw Harris did and Dems never talk about crowd size. It was a hit at Trump

I am sure she cares, we all does it matters, but we do not put the same stock or at least out loud as Trump. But what Harris did was for a reason.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

22. I LOVED how Tim addressed the size of the crowd in AZ..

"Not that anyone cares about crowd size!." Meaning CF#45 cares!

[ProudMNDemocrat]

19. CF#45 has ALWAYS had a pre-occupation with SIZE...

All it shows is the SIZE of his INSECURITIES!

[edisdead]

20. Bwahahahaha

[tavernier]

21. When he stops comparing his crowd size with MLK

and Obama. He will never stop, but his audience sees the posted crowd comparisons and pretty soon even they have to admit that he is just blowing smoke.

[Lysol2020]

23. These tactics

Are making Trump spiral out of control. Keep up with crowd size, couches, and whatever else it takes.

[Voltaire2]

24. All campaigns for decades have been covered

over inane nonsense. Understanding that, finally, is our party adapting to reality.

[MaryMagdaline]

52. Exactly this

[ananda]

25. Not now, obviiously.

[Klarkashton]

27. Sure when Harris wins in November due to

Large crowd sizes.

[DJ Synikus Makisimus]

28. Oh You're No Fun Anymore

[Zambero]

30. Polls, ratings, and crowd sizes

The three pillars of Trump's fragile ego. He repeatedly lies about all of them, and evidence to the contrary reveals him to be the lying fool that he is.

[BannonsLiver]

31. Because enthusiasm is important.

[Happy Hoosier]

33. When the press stops being obsessed with it NT

[paleotn]

38. No, when it stops riling Donny the orange.

I say we metaphorically stab him with it until he's a bloody mess.

[Happy Hoosier]

40. He will NEVER stop being obsessed with it.

I agree... it totally galls him. And we should kick him with it every chance we get. When he is galled, he is more unhinged than usual.

[Deuxcents]

49. As long as he keeps bringing it up, we should keep making him miserable 😆

[paleotn]

34. It's an effective weapon. Why not use it?

In this fight for the survival of American democracy NOTHING is off the table. NOTHING. You can worry about your sensibilities later.

Not saying you're one of them but the purists drive me fucking nuts. Do they not understand what's at stake here? Jebus!!

[Wounded Bear]

35. As long as it bugs trump and his acolytes, I say swing away...

One of democrats' problems over the years is that we've been ignoring shit like this. But if something bothers trump and gets him off on one of his silly tangents where he exposes his narcissism and basic childishness to the public it should be fair game. You seldom succeed agains bullies by "playing nice."

trump's whole bullshit game is "neener neener, I'm better than you are" which isn't based in any reality. Mocking helps deflate the ego.

[Think. Again.]

36. Yes, let's talk about sofa-sex instead!

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

50. Yes! Let's put the X in teXtiles ...nt

[Think. Again.]

53. Cushion-nookie!

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

54. Sex-tional Sofa ...nt

[Think. Again.]

58. They don't call'im "Lazy-Boy" for nuthin'!

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

63. Wait until he finds the 'massage' button on his recliner! ...nt

[Think. Again.]

64. The "cup" holder is a convienient feature too!

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

65. Now I'll have to ask myself "Is this fuckable?" when I go furniture shopping ...nt

[Think. Again.]

66. Remember, slipcovers hide a multitude of sins.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

67. The Sins of Sofas, next on Cinemax Late Nite

The famiar music begins to play as a young unshaven man in a darkened room wearing a Hugh Hefner robe strides over to the couch and runs a curious finger along a seam...

Screenplay by Davenport and Futon.

[Think. Again.]

69. (You forget to add the "smokey eye" make-up)

[Think. Again.]

37. Can we stop with all the "let's stop" stuff?

Or is it too effective for ya?

[paleotn]

39. Bingo. I'm with ya there.

[NYC Liberal]

56. Some people still want to keep "going high" when it flat does not work.

The GOP literally nominated a convicted felon. Any one of Trump’s many scandals would have not only ended a person's candidacy in the past, it would have ended their career. Nowadays, they’re barely blips.

The old rules do not apply and people need to start realziing that.

[Think. Again.]

60. No sense in going high when they're pulling the ladder out from under you..

[orange jar]

72. Yes.

I'm seeing a lot of that lately. It's like some genuinely do not want to win. Is it petty? Yes, but it works — it pisses Trump off and causes him to have even more public meltdowns. Voters are sick of his whiny bullshit.

It works in Harris' favor. That's what's most important.

[grumpyduck]

41. I dunno...

To me, thinking about debunking his lies feels like letting him live inside my head rent-free. Even for a minute.

[The Third Doctor]

42. When Trump does.

Personally I don't care but anything that pisses off Trump and his Magats I'm all for. It makes no sense to hamstring yourself in a war.

[milestogo]

43. Everything is a performance to TFG.

And since he doesn't get television ratings, crowd size is his only indicator.

But nobody gives a hoot any more.

[JustAnotherGen]

44. Because Harris' campaign is leaning into it

Yes - it's a 45 Lie.

All Harris has to do is show her crowd size - and she knocks the lie down.

Donald measures its' worth by crowd size. It's bothering 45.

[Scrivener7]

45. Why would we do that?

[Demsrule86]

46. Never...why allow asshats lies to continue unchallanged?

[LuvLoogie]

48. As soon as trump zips it back up

Fuck the trumplicker media.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

51. I despise all of them

[Happy Hoosier]

57. Why all the sudden posts hand-wringing about tactics that are working? NT

[33taw]

62. The strategy of is working on trump - he is melting down over this.

[Raftergirl]

68. It's driving him batshit crazy. That is why.

[Zoomie1986]

70. Why would we need to?

It triggers Tangerine Twitler, and that throws him off his game.

That's the point that's going over your head.

[newdayneeded]

73. Jeesuz, and STILL ANOTHER

please be nice to republicans post!!

[ecstatic]

74. We can stop when he stops

He's the one making it an issue. We beat him with no crowds in 2020.