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Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 09:47 AM Aug 2024

Trump couldn't land at Bozeman because the grifter owes $$$ from 2018

Last edited Sat Aug 10, 2024, 07:28 PM - Edit history (1)

https://www.nbcmontana.com/news/local/trumps-bozeman-rally-highlights-unpaid-costs-from-past-montana-visits

Trump's Bozeman rally highlights unpaid costs from past Montana visits

by Bowen WestWed, August 7th 2024 at 10:00 PM
Updated Fri, August 9th 2024 at 5:22 PM

Donald Trump makes a campaign stop in Bozeman Friday night, headlining a rally at Montana State University’s Brick Breeden Fieldhouse. But a visit from the former president comes with a cost.

Around the country, reports claim his campaign rarely pays invoices to local government for the increased police presence, security and other costs that come with hosting the event. Some places in Montana are still expecting payment.

Back in 2018, Trump visited Montana four times, holding rallies in Billings, Bozeman, Great Falls and Missoula.

Officials with Missoula County confirmed and sent NBC Montana the invoice showing $12,922.82 is still owed. That breaks down to $10,835.41 for officer salaries, $1,059.26 for dispatcher salaries, $693.72 for Office of Emergency Management and $334.43 for miscellaneous expenses.



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Trump couldn't land at Bozeman because the grifter owes $$$ from 2018 (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Aug 2024 OP
A Lannister Always Pays His Debts Deep State Witch Aug 2024 #1
You win! Gaytano70 Aug 2024 #7
DjT is NO Lannister by any stretch of the imagination. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2024 #18
Prince Joffrey ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 2024 #22
Part Lannister. But of House Barratheon. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2024 #26
Entirely Lannister actually. Both mom and dad. n/t whopis01 Aug 2024 #32
I tend to think of DjT as a "white walker" against whom the 900 ft wall of ice was built. Backseat Driver Aug 2024 #113
Uhmmm...let's call that in a official sense only. TheKentuckian Aug 2024 #87
Hmmm...Separated at birth? AZ8theist Aug 2024 #91
Are you kidding? whopis01 Aug 2024 #31
He stole every scene he was in! Ferryboat Aug 2024 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author krkaufman Aug 2024 #76
lol CatWoman Aug 2024 #97
I find this a lot more believable cyclonefence Aug 2024 #2
We need to get a fact check, the if true... Gaytano70 Aug 2024 #8
Agree, needs to be fact checked first. wordstroken Aug 2024 #30
Given the vast number... GiqueCee Aug 2024 #65
As a pilot myself I find it hard to believe airplaneman Aug 2024 #82
I don't think an airport *can* do that. But maybe TFG's crew was notified Ocelot II Aug 2024 #102
Let me take a guess.... louslobbs Aug 2024 #12
The White Leaky Beluga? dchill Aug 2024 #39
I am ashamed to say cyclonefence Aug 2024 #47
The Whiny Little Boy (Or Brat!) ChazInAz Aug 2024 #51
Well, thanks, but no cyclonefence Aug 2024 #54
Good point! ChazInAz Aug 2024 #56
For a while, we were using "TWBL" for . . . John1956PA Aug 2024 #57
I've wondered about that. tanyev Aug 2024 #23
Yep! Definitely more believable! wordstroken Aug 2024 #27
LOL! tanyev Aug 2024 #3
This should be national news malaise Aug 2024 #4
Soon to be lead headline on NYT, no doubt Pinback Aug 2024 #37
Please Please malaise Aug 2024 #83
If it's true, I absolutely agree... slightlv Aug 2024 #108
Check this thread - expose this crook malaise Aug 2024 #111
I was right! Fiendish Thingy Aug 2024 #5
Airports don't deny landings because of previous unpaid landing fees or other debts. Ocelot II Aug 2024 #35
What's the source for this statement? Raven123 Aug 2024 #6
I would like to know this as well. IL Dem Aug 2024 #15
I think the Xtweeter may be playing fast and loose with this: Celerity Aug 2024 #55
There isn't one. demmiblue Aug 2024 #98
just like the NABJ conference..Trump whined the interview was delayed agingdem Aug 2024 #9
He likely owes every city Figarosmom Aug 2024 #10
He owes Columbus, Oh from 2016 Botany Aug 2024 #48
Send that fact to WSYX, the Sinclair owned station. Boomerproud Aug 2024 #60
Years ago we had some of the men who served on the swift boat with J Kerry and tried to get ... Botany Aug 2024 #93
He cancelled a rally in Tucson some time ago because of an overdue bill. Attilatheblond Aug 2024 #62
is owing the police department $58K similar onethatcares Aug 2024 #11
Time to bring back debtor's prison but only for the Jerry2144 Aug 2024 #13
Nobody in his campaign thought of this before they decided to go there? Diamond_Dog Aug 2024 #14
Here's a local news story about unpaid campaign debts in MT. MontanaMama Aug 2024 #16
Interesting.. thank you Mama! mountain grammy Aug 2024 #20
My answer is, maybe? MontanaMama Aug 2024 #21
These are really great posts. Would you consider making them into an OP? mahina Aug 2024 #72
Mahalo mahina! MontanaMama Aug 2024 #84
Thank you! I had never heard of him and had no idea mahina Aug 2024 #86
I like Busse been following him for a few years now. mountain grammy Aug 2024 #78
"Sir, there are bill collectors on the tarmac!" NickB79 Aug 2024 #17
An attack of BattleRow Aug 2024 #42
Any corroboration for this? MineralMan Aug 2024 #19
See post# 16 for news video tom_kelly Aug 2024 #25
That video has nothing about the OP. former9thward Aug 2024 #50
Indeed it does. MontanaMama Aug 2024 #85
The OP is alleging Trump could not land at Bozeman. former9thward Aug 2024 #88
His jet did not land in Bozeman. MontanaMama Aug 2024 #94
There is no credible source for the airport/debt story. former9thward Aug 2024 #95
Really? CBS News says otherwise MontanaMama Aug 2024 #107
Really? former9thward Aug 2024 #109
He didnt land in Bozeman. MontanaMama Aug 2024 #112
Here's a little more info: MontanaMama Aug 2024 #29
If I owed any entity that amount of money, do you think I'd be arrested or allowed to run for president instead? hawkeye21 Aug 2024 #53
"When you're a candidate they let you do anything. Grab 'em by the purse. You can do anything." . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2024 #66
HA!!!!! GOOD ONE!!!!!!!!!!!! MyOwnPeace Aug 2024 #70
My, what big teeth you have... GiqueCee Aug 2024 #24
I was wondering... FirefighterJo Aug 2024 #33
GOOD ONE! GiqueCee Aug 2024 #38
Thx! I'm blushing FirefighterJo Aug 2024 #41
Double FirefighterJo Aug 2024 #44
Republican "values" are so twisted and perverted BoRaGard Aug 2024 #28
They should have been ready to seize his plane for nonpayment ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 2024 #34
If this were a true procedure, he wouldn't be able to land anywhere. nt Gore1FL Aug 2024 #40
non-xitter source: Pinback Aug 2024 #43
All that still doesn't prove that he was denied landing at that airport. IL Dem Aug 2024 #59
Good point. Updated my post with disclaimer. (nt) Pinback Aug 2024 #69
Why didn't they put one of those wheel locks on the plane? 3Hotdogs Aug 2024 #45
Wish I could find it! MyOwnPeace Aug 2024 #73
Here ya go: Wednesdays Aug 2024 #110
Deadbeat Don dlk Aug 2024 #46
Total BS story. former9thward Aug 2024 #49
The aircraft he took from Billings to Bozeman might be owned by someone else. n/t John1956PA Aug 2024 #52
"total BS story" - how are you so sure? Cheeto LIES pathologically - his Billings to Boseman story is probably a lie. AnotherMother4Peace Aug 2024 #61
The News on ABC said he took another plane from Billings to Bozeman. former9thward Aug 2024 #89
Plane, not person. No Debtor's prisons so maybe they can't arrest him Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2024 #68
A grifter and a flim-flam man. lpbk2713 Aug 2024 #58
the twitterer is confused. WarGamer Aug 2024 #63
Send in the repo man Blue Owl Aug 2024 #64
Delicious Hekate Aug 2024 #67
Would pay cash to see his plane booted Old Crank Aug 2024 #71
Is there a source for this besides Sundae_Gurl? n/t demmiblue Aug 2024 #74
Emergency landing in Billings; hydraulic leak. dobleremolque Aug 2024 #77
Well, at least they had the decency to delete their tweet. n/t demmiblue Aug 2024 #99
It's true. He owes other cities, too. Link below: surfered Aug 2024 #75
Has a single media person asked him or his staff about it? Eliot Rosewater Aug 2024 #79
Who is surprised by this? TFG has stiffed a good number of cities and local governments over the years LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #80
Kick BlueWavePsych Aug 2024 #81
WTF CloudWatcher Aug 2024 #90
Another Link Brainstormy Aug 2024 #92
Another story that does *not* mention anything about the airport! CloudWatcher Aug 2024 #100
I changed the OP n/t Dennis Donovan Aug 2024 #101
You forgot to update the title of the post CloudWatcher Aug 2024 #118
I never said he was denied - he was avoiding people he owed $$$ to. n/t Dennis Donovan Aug 2024 #119
He still flew into Bozeman! CloudWatcher Aug 2024 #120
This message was self-deleted by its author Dennis Donovan Aug 2024 #96
Cities could start demanding he pay his bills fro 2016 liberal N proud Aug 2024 #103
They should have let him land, and then put a boot on the landing gear. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #104
#DeadbeatDonald n/t Buttoneer Aug 2024 #105
Trump is a Welcher. He gambles and doesn't pay his debts. Even bookies can't trust him. Simeon Salus Aug 2024 #106
That says that "welch" is an alternative form of "welsh". sl8 Aug 2024 #117
I'm sure the magas in Bozeman will be happy to hear about the unpaid revenues to the county kimbutgar Aug 2024 #114
Another fake story gets 250+ recs TwilightZone Aug 2024 #115
It's documented that he owed Bozeman $$$ n/t Dennis Donovan Aug 2024 #116

Backseat Driver

(4,671 posts)
113. I tend to think of DjT as a "white walker" against whom the 900 ft wall of ice was built.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 09:56 PM
Aug 2024

and guarded by the Knights' Watch.

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
87. Uhmmm...let's call that in a official sense only.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 03:38 PM
Aug 2024

Usually one would have some example of the house name in their recent bloodline.

whopis01

(3,907 posts)
31. Are you kidding?
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 11:21 AM
Aug 2024

Willing to do anything to gain and stay in power?
Definitely got the Cersei vibe there.

Would rather make fun of a torment people that do his job as leader?
Channeling some Joffrey.

Cersei and Jaime / Donald and Ivanka?
Nuff said.


I think Mary Trump May have gotten the Tyrion thing going though. I don’t know if she drinks but she certainly knows things.

Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #18)

cyclonefence

(5,137 posts)
2. I find this a lot more believable
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 09:50 AM
Aug 2024

than "mechanical problems"--as if anyone would dare take TWLB into a plane that had not been double- and triple-checked before taking off.

GiqueCee

(3,229 posts)
65. Given the vast number...
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:53 PM
Aug 2024

... of complaints and lawsuits against the Trump campaign for precisely this sort of fiduciary malfeasance, it's all but guaranteed to be the reason. The Orange Gargoyle has stiffed literally thousands of people and companies throughout his dishonorable career. It's one of his defining characteristics. I've read that a few who were bankrupted by Trump took their own lives because of what he did to them. One does business with that thieving scuzz-bucket at one's peril.
In 2016 it was reported that there were more than 4,000 lawsuits pending against him, and those were just the ones that could afford the litigation. Many more just closed their doors rather than be bankrupted by legal fees.
Trump is rotten down to his DNA. Which says nothing good about the judgement or character of those mental defectives that still support him.

airplaneman

(1,363 posts)
82. As a pilot myself I find it hard to believe
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 02:22 PM
Aug 2024

I don’t believe an airport would refuse a landing because of unpaid past debt. The FAA controlers are not connected to the finances of the airport. This needs to be fact check. It’s moving my BS meter. I could be wrong but I don’t accept this at face value
-airplane

Ocelot II

(128,727 posts)
102. I don't think an airport *can* do that. But maybe TFG's crew was notified
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 07:32 PM
Aug 2024

that the FBO at BZN wouldn't sell them any more fuel until they paid a bill left over from the last visit (I can't think of any other reason for an outstanding debt as high as $12K). So they had to come up with a reason to land at BIL if they wanted to be able to buy enough fuel to get home (and probably stiff the FBO at BIL). So - they came up with some lame-ass mechanical problem that wasn't an emergency and wouldn't require an NTSB report but that they still couldn't make another 140 miles to BZN.

louslobbs

(3,416 posts)
12. Let me take a guess....
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 10:07 AM
Aug 2024

TWLB:
The Whiny Little Bastard?
The Weird Lowlife Blowhard?
The Worn out Lingering
Bachagaloop ?(Jersey definition)

cyclonefence

(5,137 posts)
54. Well, thanks, but no
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:30 PM
Aug 2024

I insist on Bitch. Because that's what he is, and that word hurts him more than any other B-word. Again, I apologize.

John1956PA

(4,693 posts)
57. For a while, we were using "TWBL" for . . .
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:33 PM
Aug 2024

. . . "The World's Biggest Loser" or "The World's Biggest Liar."

tanyev

(48,522 posts)
23. I've wondered about that.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 11:12 AM
Aug 2024

Probably the only thing he pays full price for without whining about it. Or maybe he does whine—but still pays.

slightlv

(7,279 posts)
108. If it's true, I absolutely agree...
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 08:40 PM
Aug 2024

and I lean towards it's being true. While I can't imagine any ATC refusing a plane to land if it's in trouble, one who is NOT in trouble but who has stiffed paying agreed-upon contracts, I can see them saying "move on to the next town." If this is true and it could go viral, I imagine it would take the wind out of the crashed helicopter story! Just show him to be the deadbeat and liar he is. I'm one who thinks we need to throw these words into his face every single time we have the opportunity... multiple times a day!

Fiendish Thingy

(21,820 posts)
5. I was right!
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 09:53 AM
Aug 2024

I posted yesterday that the flight diversion was a karmic inconvenience due to his unpaid bills.

Ocelot II

(128,727 posts)
35. Airports don't deny landings because of previous unpaid landing fees or other debts.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 11:28 AM
Aug 2024

Aircraft operations are under the jurisdiction of the FAA. Airports charge landing fees for larger airplanes, based on their maximum landing weight, which is about 90,000 lbs. for a 757. BZN charges only $3 per 1,000 lbs., so that fee would be only about $270 - which doesn't explain the claimed $12K. However, an FBO operator could refuse to hangar or fuel the airplane once it landed, and an amount that high might be for fuel (if he'd ever been to BZN before). Since Jet-A costs about $6 per gallon and a 757 can hold as much as 11,000 gallons, it could be that he has an outstanding fuel bill from a previous visit and was notified that he couldn't buy any more fuel at BZN until he paid the past due bill. That's assuming this claim is true in the first place.

Celerity

(53,423 posts)
55. I think the Xtweeter may be playing fast and loose with this:
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:32 PM
Aug 2024

(Bozeman is in Gallatin County btw)

Trump's Bozeman rally highlights unpaid costs from past Montana visits

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nbcmontana.com/amp/news/local/trumps-bozeman-rally-highlights-unpaid-costs-from-past-montana-visits

Donald Trump makes a campaign stop in Bozeman Friday night, headlining a rally at Montana State University’s Brick Breeden Fieldhouse. But a visit from the former president comes with a cost. Around the country, reports claim his campaign rarely pays invoices to local government for the increased police presence, security and other costs that come with hosting the event. Some places in Montana are still expecting payment.

Back in 2018, Trump visited Montana four times, holding rallies in Billings, Bozeman, Great Falls and Missoula. Officials with Missoula County confirmed and sent NBC Montana the invoice showing $12,922.82 is still owed. That breaks down to $10,835.41 for officer salaries, $1,059.26 for dispatcher salaries, $693.72 for Office of Emergency Management and $334.43 for miscellaneous expenses.



An official with the city of Billings confirmed they were never reimbursed for the cost of additional police presence totaling $45,900. On the other hand, Cascade County Commissioner Jim Larson tells us the rally in Great Falls in July of 2018 was paid off. NBC Montana emailed Larson about the payment.

“I didn’t pay any attention to it at that time, and now with your email, I called them and there never was any outstanding debt,” he said. They shared the invoice, showing the total cost was $9,372.95. Expenses included $6,000 to rent the Four Seasons Arena and $3,372.95 for miscellaneous items. The bill was paid in December 2018. NBC Montana checked with the city of Bozeman and Gallatin County to see if Trump’s rally in 2018 was ever reimbursed and if they have any projections for the cost of this Friday’s rally. We did not hear back before filing this story.

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demmiblue

(39,107 posts)
98. There isn't one.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 07:22 PM
Aug 2024

And the original tweet has been deleted.

Yet, here we are. Once again.

agingdem

(8,737 posts)
9. just like the NABJ conference..Trump whined the interview was delayed
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 10:01 AM
Aug 2024

because of an issue with the teleprompter..that was a lie.. Trump was pissed and ready to walk out because he refused to be fact-checked in real time..

Botany

(76,159 posts)
48. He owes Columbus, Oh from 2016
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:10 PM
Aug 2024

I wonder how many cities, Police, Fire Departments, and others he owes across America?

This should be brought up on t.v.spots and social media big time.

Boomerproud

(9,095 posts)
60. Send that fact to WSYX, the Sinclair owned station.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:43 PM
Aug 2024

Make them investigate and give the facts.

Botany

(76,159 posts)
93. Years ago we had some of the men who served on the swift boat with J Kerry and tried to get ...
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 05:51 PM
Aug 2024

…. them on the Sinclair stations but they refused and ran “Swift Boats for Truth” which was just a
hit piece on Senator Kerry multiple times.

Attilatheblond

(8,088 posts)
62. He cancelled a rally in Tucson some time ago because of an overdue bill.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:49 PM
Aug 2024

Tucson's female, Hispanic mayor presented the years overdue bill quite publically to Turmp's campaign. Madam Mayor is a keeper.

onethatcares

(16,949 posts)
11. is owing the police department $58K similar
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 10:03 AM
Aug 2024

to de-funding the police? Asking for no one in particular...............

Diamond_Dog

(39,575 posts)
14. Nobody in his campaign thought of this before they decided to go there?
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 10:27 AM
Aug 2024

So, of course, tell another lie to cover it up.

MontanaMama

(24,600 posts)
16. Here's a local news story about unpaid campaign debts in MT.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 10:39 AM
Aug 2024

It appears that some are paid and some are not. His debt here in Missoula is unpaid probably because we're a blue city:

?si=6mDn204vIg_Xin5D

mountain grammy

(28,575 posts)
20. Interesting.. thank you Mama!
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 10:58 AM
Aug 2024

On another note.. Does anyone have a chance of beating that thug who is currently your governor?

MontanaMama

(24,600 posts)
21. My answer is, maybe?
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 11:06 AM
Aug 2024

Ryan Busse (pronounced Bussy) is running against the thug. He's popular here in Missoula, but we're pretty blue here. My guess is that the thug will win another term and if Busse runs again, the pendulum will swing our way.

https://busseformontana.com/

Ryan Busse used to work for the firearms industry and he wrote a book called "Gunfight" blowing the whistle on the NRA. He's an interesting player here in the Big Sky.

?si=jyBagaY0R5vBFM9I

?si=d_BPIwRvWCaVW-mx

mahina

(20,292 posts)
72. These are really great posts. Would you consider making them into an OP?
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:25 PM
Aug 2024

Good luck to him and you too in beautiful Montana!

mahina

(20,292 posts)
86. Thank you! I had never heard of him and had no idea
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 03:29 PM
Aug 2024

It’s really great to hear his perspective. Thank you for sharing it and best luck to all of you again.

mountain grammy

(28,575 posts)
78. I like Busse been following him for a few years now.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:42 PM
Aug 2024

Still shocking that Montana went for the thug after Steve Bullock.

MineralMan

(150,470 posts)
19. Any corroboration for this?
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 10:48 AM
Aug 2024

As far as I know, nobody else is saying that. So, please check your source.

MontanaMama

(24,600 posts)
85. Indeed it does.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 02:43 PM
Aug 2024

The OP is about unpaid debts belonging to the Felon’s campaign in MT. The video is about unpaid debts belonging to the Felon’s campaign in MT.

MontanaMama

(24,600 posts)
94. His jet did not land in Bozeman.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 06:01 PM
Aug 2024

It landed in Billings. He had to take a charter plane to Bozeman and there are conflicting reports as to why this happened. One of the reports alleges that he has unpaid debts in Bozeman and that's the reason his jet did not land there. The Felon's campaign says there was a mechanical issue.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
95. There is no credible source for the airport/debt story.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 06:15 PM
Aug 2024

The MSM reported the correct story based on their sources. They do not rely on fake posters on X who are making up stuff.

MontanaMama

(24,600 posts)
107. Really? CBS News says otherwise
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 08:33 PM
Aug 2024
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-plane-diverted-montana/

Former President Donald Trump's plane was forced Friday to divert its landing to Billings, Montana, due to a mechanical issue, airport officials confirmed to CBS News.

Trump was holding a rally in Bozeman, Montana, Friday night, but his private plane landed instead in Billings Friday afternoon, Billings-Logan International Airport said in a statement. Bozeman is about 150 miles west of Billings.

The airport said Trump's plane "landed without incident," and Trump then departed for Bozeman on another private jet. The details of the mechanical issue were not confirmed.

Trump's Bozeman rally was scheduled to begin at 8 p.m. local time, or 10 p.m. ET, and supporters lined up hours ahead of the scheduled start time to secure a spot. He did not take the stage until about 11:30 p.m. ET, however. /b]

My son works at a private aviation company in Missoula and they were tracking the Felon's plane for fun. It landed in Billings but you probably wouldn't believe that either.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
109. Really?
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 08:46 PM
Aug 2024

There is absolutely nothing in your post that says they could not land in Bozeman because of debt issues which is what the OP said. Nothing. Try again.

MontanaMama

(24,600 posts)
112. He didnt land in Bozeman.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 09:20 PM
Aug 2024

That's what I said. I did not say he didn't land there because of debt issues.The OP isn't mine.

MontanaMama

(24,600 posts)
29. Here's a little more info:
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 11:18 AM
Aug 2024
https://dailymontanan.com/2024/08/08/when-trump-comes-to-town-he-brings-excitement-leaves-unpaid-bills/

Trump’s campaign has been notorious for flaking on bills for security. According to a 2019 report from the Center for Public Integrity, Trump owed more than $840,000 to various city governments, and likely more, as Trump’s campaign does not acknowledge a single one of these city governments as debt in his federal campaign financial disclosures.

In Billings, the protective measures put in place for his September 2018 rally resulted in 1,362 overtime hours between Billings PD and the Yellowstone County Sheriff’s office: 951 hours from the former, and 411 hours from the latter, bringing the total cost to $58,830.

While the Yellowstone Sheriff’s office did not bill Trump’s campaign for the $12,930 cost it incurred – a standard practice the office follows for all political campaigns – Billings PD did, and as of the publication date of this article, that $45,900 bill has been left unpaid.

Earlier that year, Vice President Mike Pence and Donald Trump Jr. also made stops in Billings. The vice president spoke at a public rally on July 25, also at MetraPark, organized by America First Policies. Donald Trump Jr. spoke at the Republican Convention in Billings on June 22.

According to an internal memo sent to city council on Sept. 13, 2018, Vice President Mike Pence’s July 25 visit required 647.50 hours of overtime pay, totalling $31,200. Donald Trump Jr.’s visit ran $5,000 in overtime pay, bringing the total amount spent by the Billings Police Department alone on security for Trump’s campaign rallies in Billings in 2018 to $82,100.

Billings isn’t alone. Missoula county commissioners also sent a bill to the Trump campaign in 2018 for nearly $13,000 for public safety staffing costs. The county requested $10,835.41 for officer salaries, $1,059.26 for dispatcher salaries, $693.72 for Office of Emergency Management salaries, and $334.43 for miscellaneous expenses. According to Missoula County Communications Manager Allison Franz, that bill has also not been paid.

Some municipalities, like Great Falls, don’t submit requests for payment, instead eating the cost from their own budgets. The Great Falls Tribune reported Trump’s July 5 visit to Great Falls cost the city, Cascade County and Montana Highway Patrol a total of $57,236, none of which was submitted for payment to Trump’s campaign.

In total, in 2018 alone, Trump’s campaign cost various city and state departments – whether they billed for reimbursement and weren’t paid, or never billed at all – at least $150,000 in taxpayer money.

“It’s a lot for a budget,” Lennick said. “It’s not something that’s built into our initial budget that we plan every year.”

hawkeye21

(313 posts)
53. If I owed any entity that amount of money, do you think I'd be arrested or allowed to run for president instead?
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:30 PM
Aug 2024

This is another travesty of justice, and every news outlet in America should be calling attention to this. Poor families have their power shut off for nonpayment. But an alleged billionaire can run around the country and ignore bills in the tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars with NO consequences, no accountability. That, my friends, is just plain bullshit.

Why hasn't Trump been arrested by some of these cities and counties? Why haven't his assets been seized? Why do they keep providing services for a visitor who hasn't paid previous bills?

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
66. "When you're a candidate they let you do anything. Grab 'em by the purse. You can do anything." . . . . . nt
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:56 PM
Aug 2024

GiqueCee

(3,229 posts)
24. My, what big teeth you have...
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 11:12 AM
Aug 2024

... KARMA!
All the better to bite you in the ass, you lyin', thievin' crook!

FirefighterJo

(441 posts)
41. Thx! I'm blushing
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 11:47 AM
Aug 2024

It seemed an open goal opportunity. Karmala is what has been brewing all along. Obama-Biden... Biden-Harris... and now Karmala-Coach. So happy for you girls and guys.

Pinback

(13,478 posts)
43. non-xitter source:
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 11:51 AM
Aug 2024

Last edited Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:10 PM - Edit history (1)

https://nbcmontana.com/news/local/trumps-bozeman-rally-highlights-unpaid-costs-from-past-montana-visits

(Note: This doesn’t prove Trump’s plane was turned away from the airport because of debts, just that the campaign does have outstanding debts in MT.)

Trump's Bozeman rally highlights unpaid costs from past Montana visits
by Bowen West - Wed, August 7th 2024 at 10:00 PM
Updated Fri, August 9th 2024 at 5:22 PM

Donald Trump makes a campaign stop in Bozeman Friday night, headlining a rally at Montana State University’s Brick Breeden Fieldhouse. But a visit from the former president comes with a cost.

Around the country, reports claim his campaign rarely pays invoices to local government for the increased police presence, security and other costs that come with hosting the event. Some places in Montana are still expecting payment.

Back in 2018, Trump visited Montana four times, holding rallies in Billings, Bozeman, Great Falls and Missoula.

Officials with Missoula County confirmed and sent NBC Montana the invoice showing $12,922.82 is still owed. That breaks down to $10,835.41 for officer salaries, $1,059.26 for dispatcher salaries, $693.72 for Office of Emergency Management and $334.43 for miscellaneous expenses.

- more at link above

IL Dem

(888 posts)
59. All that still doesn't prove that he was denied landing at that airport.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:39 PM
Aug 2024

Yes, he owes money to them, but there is no source that says it was a reason he had to land somewhere else.

3Hotdogs

(14,932 posts)
45. Why didn't they put one of those wheel locks on the plane?
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:03 PM
Aug 2024

Ya get'cher place back when ya fork over ....

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
49. Total BS story.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:16 PM
Aug 2024

He did land in Bozeman. He switched planes at Billings. People put anything on the internet and hope to sucker other people into believing it is true.

AnotherMother4Peace

(5,006 posts)
61. "total BS story" - how are you so sure? Cheeto LIES pathologically - his Billings to Boseman story is probably a lie.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:43 PM
Aug 2024

BUT Cheeto does have a proven history of being a grifter and leaving town without paying his bills. So I'm more inclined to believe this story, than anything that comes out of the grifters mouth. Crap - he doesn't know a lie from the truth.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
89. The News on ABC said he took another plane from Billings to Bozeman.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 03:53 PM
Aug 2024

Unless you think ABC is also lying.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
68. Plane, not person. No Debtor's prisons so maybe they can't arrest him
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:10 PM
Aug 2024

Thread headline and its source in the tweet are a little misleading that way.

lpbk2713

(43,240 posts)
58. A grifter and a flim-flam man.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:34 PM
Aug 2024


This is who the GOP wants to run for president.

They love his resume.

WarGamer

(18,209 posts)
63. the twitterer is confused.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 12:50 PM
Aug 2024

The $12k to the Yellowstone Cty police BUT they NEVER charge for political events.

Billings PD HAS sent a bill, for 46k

There is no "bill" from the airport.

Old Crank

(6,568 posts)
71. Would pay cash to see his plane booted
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:17 PM
Aug 2024

at the airport. Landing fees plus storage just like they do to poor people's cars.

LetMyPeopleVote

(173,913 posts)
80. Who is surprised by this? TFG has stiffed a good number of cities and local governments over the years
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 01:42 PM
Aug 2024

TFG has stiffed contractors and other over the years. TFG has also stiffed cities and local governments where he has held his rallies. Some cities/local governments are now making TFG pay in advance



https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-told-to-pay-up-before-rallying-in-n-j-town-he-previously-stiffed/ar-BB1maZnn

Former President Donald Trump is returning to rally in a small New Jersey city that his campaign stiffed on a five-figure police and public safety bill in 2020.

Consider that a lesson learned for Wildwood, N.J.: This time, Trump's campaign needed to pay ahead of time for the rally Trump is hosting on Saturday at Wildwood Beach.

The Trump campaign paid $54,200 for public safety and clean-up costs ahead of Saturday's rally that's expected to draw thousands of visitors, NJ.com reported.

Lisa Fagan, public information officer for the city of Wildwood, N.J., confirmed to Raw Story that the Trump campaign paid $54,200 plus an additional $150 that "covers all event costs that the city might incur."
"We are working in tandem with the Secret Service who are running all security measures," Fagan said.

All city departments work together to support such an event, Fagan said.

“Take the politics out of it and people would bend over backward for this number of people to come to their town,” Wildwood Mayor Ernie Troiano Jr., a Republican and Trump supporter, told The Philadelphia Inquirer. “We become national spotlight. They see the size of the beaches, they see the amusement parks we have to offer, our restaurants and hotels take a good hit.”

Here are some cities that have been stiffed by TFG


CloudWatcher

(2,127 posts)
90. WTF
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 04:41 PM
Aug 2024
AGAIN we have the #1 rec'd post on DU being a completely false story. His plane was not turned away because of his outstanding debts. We can do better.

Oh, and this post is likely against the rules. Flame away. I've not been hidden in a while.

CloudWatcher

(2,127 posts)
100. Another story that does *not* mention anything about the airport!
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 07:25 PM
Aug 2024

Nobody doubts that he owes a lot of money. But it has nothing to do with not landing at Bozeman in his original plane!

CloudWatcher

(2,127 posts)
118. You forgot to update the title of the post
Sun Aug 11, 2024, 01:26 PM
Aug 2024

There is no evidence that he was denied permission to land.

CloudWatcher

(2,127 posts)
120. He still flew into Bozeman!
Sun Aug 11, 2024, 01:50 PM
Aug 2024

There's no evidence he was avoiding flying into Bozeman because of his debts. He flew in later on a different plane. Unless you think they were about to confiscate his original jet? Again, there's no evidence for the linkage in your OP's title.

Trump’s plane was en route to Bozeman, Montana, when it was diverted Friday afternoon to Billings, 142 miles to the east, according to Jenny Mockel, administrative assistant at Billings Logan International Airport. Trump continued to Bozeman via private jet.

https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-trump-tester-sheehy-senate-b2030ef3b1249cafaeb21b755721920c

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

liberal N proud

(61,162 posts)
103. Cities could start demanding he pay his bills fro 2016
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 07:34 PM
Aug 2024

That would make it difficult to campaign in those cities

Simeon Salus

(1,549 posts)
106. Trump is a Welcher. He gambles and doesn't pay his debts. Even bookies can't trust him.
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 08:25 PM
Aug 2024

He is a welcher. Not welsher by the way.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/welch#English

sl8

(16,961 posts)
117. That says that "welch" is an alternative form of "welsh".
Sun Aug 11, 2024, 09:02 AM
Aug 2024

And if you look up their definition of "welsher", they say that it's an alternative spelling of "welcher".

kimbutgar

(26,636 posts)
114. I'm sure the magas in Bozeman will be happy to hear about the unpaid revenues to the county
Sat Aug 10, 2024, 10:06 PM
Aug 2024

But the MAGAs will yawn and go who cares. You can just hear them yawn. While they struggle to survive in an area that has become expensive to live in.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
115. Another fake story gets 250+ recs
Sun Aug 11, 2024, 07:40 AM
Aug 2024

We really should learn to better vet our sources or at least find some corroboration before posting.

Not holding my breath.

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