Yamiche Alcindor just swift-boated Tim Walz

[DFab420]

Another disappointing performance from someone I thought I could respect.

[CTyankee]

1. Do you have a link?

[DFab420]

3. Was just live on MSNBC, she's hosting the hour. Was discussing it with Jim Clyburn, she brought it up 2 seperate times.

[Ocelot II]

2. What did she say?

[DFab420]

7. Parroted the Republican strategist attack about "did he really carry a weapon of war", when Clyburn demured she

actually brought it up again , then interrupted Clyburn as he answered to ask it AGAIN.

24 years of service, the man carried fucking weapons of war. It's disgusting to watch "journalists" carry Republican talking points as actual "People are saying" horseshit.

[Ocelot II]

11. Apart from content, I've always found her reporting a little irritating

because she talks very, very fast, barely stopping to breathe, and often talks over whoever she's interviewing. Sounds like she did it again this time.

[Deek1935]

4. Corporate media is FUCKING GARBAGE. Shut the stupid shit off.

[calguy]

5. Let 'em talk

It's not going to have any effect whatsoever.

[Klarkashton]

6. Swift boating isn't working. Back then

It was tangled up with Kerry's anti Vietnam war stance and that corsi clown.

This is making Vance look even worse.

[agingdem]

22. True..

and millennials and GenZ were either babies or years from being born to actually know what swift boating means or care....while Trump and his keepers are running a multi prong campaign..1930's/Hitler/purge..1950's Bull Connor/white supremacy...2024/Trump/demagogue..voters have tuned out the cable gasbags and tuned into podcasts/social media platforms..

[spooky3]

8. She seems to be in the same category as Katy and Andrea

Everyone in the media needs to listen to Lawrence o’s media critique.

[rsdsharp]

9. I saw that. I was livid.

I was shouting at my TV, that she can ask that question after she asks a Trump surrogate, if Trump should say HE “misspoke.”

About EVERYTHING.

[yorkster]

10. I thought she was asking Jim Clyburn if

he thought Walz needed to further clarify.
Then she talked over him and I couldn't make out what she said.
Wasn't thrilled with her question, but I didn't think she was swiftboating..open to correction if someone heard more than I did.

On edit - just heard her ask the same question of Denver Riggleman. He had a great response. So, that makes it 3 times
that she's asked about Walz's military record. Very disappointing.

[JoseBalow]

12. She just did it again with Rep. Riggleman

WTF is her deal?

[XarmyGal]

13. When I was in the Army

Everyone was assigned an MOS and a weapon of war. At one point or another, we use our weapon of war, whether for training purposes or for war...Correct me if I'm wrong if things have changed. To say, if Walz carried a weapon of war is just someone saying something they know nothing about. We did our MOS but we were also trained to use our weapons of war. I would like to see some of these talking heads to spend 24 years in the service! They wouldn't have lasted no where near that long!...

[haele]

24. Hell, I made sharpshooter on the Navy Colt and marksman on the M16.

However, every time I tried the shotgun, it knocked me on my ass.
I never used the M16, carried the Navy Colt when I was on Security watch,
And I fired an SM2-BLK1 as part of my re-enlistment when I was stationed on the USS Norton Sound (guided missile seaplane tender/AEGIS test ship - now rusting in the ocean somewhere)
A bigger weapon of war than most of those Meal Team Six types ever fired.

But, hey. I was never in a combat zone. Because back when I was active duty, the military had an informal zone designation called "the Maybelline Zone" - if there was a unit with women assigned to it in a combat zone, that area was not considered a combat zone even if they were being fired on.

There was a female lieutenant MP in Panama whose post came under fire when they were going after Noriega, she and her unit ended up in a firefight -and they held their post, driving the Panamanian unit off. Every other unit that came under fire like hers got combat ribbons, but her unit had wimmin, and wimmin can't fight, they just aren't made for combat...

Anyway, I digress. 100% of everyone who is in the military, be they active duty, reserves, or ancillary services (like Merchant Marines and MAC), have to know how to handle a weapon.
Because one never knows when combat will come to them.

Haele

[roscoeroscoe]

28. Every Soldier qualifies at the range

Even the Guard goes at least once a year, right?

Now a CSM may carry a pistol instead of an M-16 or what not. Still qualifies.

Walz was field artillery, ask him about hiw whole career. Gun bunny, towed or track artillery? Yeah buddy, king of battle

[Rebl2]

35. Husband was

in Air Force in early 70’s and he was trained in using guns. He was never in Vietnam, but was stationed in Guam and Thailand. I thought everyone in the military was given training in use of guns. My husband occasionally had to carry a pistol, but think he trained on other weapons as well. He also loaded bombs onto planes. He hated being in the military. He also understood it was a necessary evil.

[3catwoman3]

33. I'd like to see them spend 24...

...days, or in some case, probably 24 hours. Most couldn't cut it.

And, depending on one's career/skill set (in the AIr Force, the equivalent to MOS is AFSC - Air Force Specialty Code), you may not be involved with weapons at all. I was a 9756, which is the code for nurse, with a suffix B, denoting pediatric nurse practitioner. I took care of the children of the active duty folks. No weapons.

[GP6971]

36. Not me. I qualified on the .45 and M16

at the end of my army officer basic course. The first 2 units I was assigned to were non deployable...not only were we not issued any weapons, we were not issued any field gear. I didn't see or qualify on any weapon until I reached my third unit.














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[JaneQPublic]

14. She asked at least two guests the same question.

"Should Walz admit that he misspoke" about his military record?
I've read every fact-check published on the subject, and he has nothing to admit or apologize for.

[DFab420]

17. Clearly received her marching orders from those who sign her paycheck. Zero integrity hack.

[JaneQPublic]

23. At least Denver Riggleman stood up to her.

He asked why the media doesn't make a huge issue over all the problems on the other ticket --- that Trump lies constantly, but reporters just let it slide.

He also defended Walz's military career in detail and pointed out that Trump's campaign chief is the same guy who swift boated Kerry.

Yamiche seems determined to make her career off this issue

[Ms. Toad]

34. While I agree there's nothing to admit or apologize about,

He was speaking loosely and using repetition of a word or phrase to add punch for the purpose of making a point. If taken literally, his statement was technically incorrect. But hardly misleading or the false valor claim Vance is making.

What he said was, "We can make sure those weapons of war, that I carried in war, are only carried in war." While he certainly carried weapons of war during his time in service, he was not actually deployed in combat to be able to "carr(y them) in war."

To be accurate, he might have said, "We can make sure those weapons of war, that I carried in as a member of the National Guard, are only carried in war." But it doesn't make the point as cleanly. And the point of his comment wasn't to claim he was on the battlefront. It was to say that as a member of the armed services, he knows first hand that weapons of war should be limited to war.

[BeyondGeography]

15. This has been dealt with, Yamiche needs to STFU

The campaign has already said Walz misspoke by saying he carried those weapons “in war.” Clyburn should have been briefed on that (or brushed up on this before going in the air). If he was he could have told Yamiche to do her homework.

Link to tweet

?s=46&t=UDtLaS-w7g67AF4Q2Xb1mg

[DFab420]

19. He did begin say that then she spoke over him to reiterate the talking point.

[BeyondGeography]

20. Thanks...what an awful display by her

[Skya Rhen]

16. I've always viewed her as being more aligned with the GOP

[Skya Rhen]

18. She proved me right.

[Thrill]

21. Pushing their talking points as Trump humiliates her

Every chance he gets

[struggle4progress]

25. Trump on avoiding STDs: Vaginas Are 'Landmines ... It Is My Personal Vietnam'

By Ale Russian
Published on October 15, 2016 08:02AM EDT

... "It's amazing, I can't even believe it. I've been so lucky in terms of that whole world, it is a dangerous world out there. It's like Vietnam, sort of. It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave solider," Trump said in the interview when Howard Stern asked how he handled making sure he wasn't contracting STDs from the women he was sleeping with.

The business-mogul-turned-politician elaborated on the fact in the interview, calling women's vaginas "potential landmines" and saying "there's some real danger there" ...

https://people.com/politics/trump-boasted-of-avoiding-stds-while-dating-vaginas-are-landmines-it-was-my-personal-vietnam/

[walkingman]

26. IMO, anyone making an issue of this is looking for a reason to diss Walz. Not that complicated.

As far as Yamiche Alcindor, I think her appeal has dropped dramatically in the last year. Maybe she is trying to get some headlines in an effort to boost herself - not a very good idea.

[getagrip_already]

27. He had hearing loss from firing artillery

Artillery is kind of a weopon of war, no?

[roscoeroscoe]

30. Yep yep

I was FA too. The gun line is loud af

[Bucky]

29. Why do DUers post shit like this without a link?

Sorry, that's just lazy. We're a fact based community. You need to show sources of your gonna put someone down

[lynintenn]

32. the media will sell their souls to the devil to be onTV.

CNN will take aa bone and run with it for days.

[dem4decades]

37. Yamiche Alcindor? If I ever watch the news again, I'll have to remember to turn her off.

[dchill]

38. Yamiche Alcindor - weapon of war.