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[mysteryowl]

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[Norbert]

1. Did he?

He was a non-com. Certainly a higher ranking non-com but hardly in the know if he has a commission.

[mysteryowl]

2. "Did he" what?

What are you asking?

[Think. Again.]

10. I believe they are responding to YOUR false implication that Walz knowingly skipped out on a deployment.

...since that is the only thing their post could be responding to.

[Brainfodder]

3. Was reported that he asked 5 months before the unit he was in was to be deployed, just smoke blowing...

If he covered his own arse after in that long, I salute that choice.
Thank you for your service ya'll not just Tim.

[BeyondGeography]

4. Unless there is some new reporting on this

My understanding is that he didn’t know because he couldn’t know.

This whole thing is disgusting. He could have retired anytime after 9/11 because he already had 20 years of service in the bank and his reward for staying four extra years by which time his ears had been blown out from spending too much time around howitzer batteries is partisan slurs from people in thrall to a draft dodger who scorns the very idea of military service.

[mysteryowl]

6. No, I am not hearing anything new. The media keeps bringing it up as a "thing"

The Sunday morning M$M have it front and center as a "thing".

It is not a thing!!! No matter how they look at it, it is not thing.

It makes me so mad what they do to maintain controversy.

[Think. Again.]

12. I would like to point out that YOUR OP brings it up as a "thing".

[RandomNumbers]

5. For any civilian, non-veteran to bash Walz over this

Is utterly disgusting.

Most people in this country don't serve in the military AT ALL. So they have no f*cking clue. (Army vet here, btw. Didn't serve as long as Walz)

For a veteran like Vance to make a thing of it, well he would have standing if there was any "there" there. But there isn't. And his trying to stretch the facts to make a negative out of a record like Walz's, is pathetic.

[mysteryowl]

9. The media keeps making it a "thing" !

Plus, this had to have vetted during his multiple congressional runs and twice as governor.

[Think. Again.]

7. HE DID NOT.

[mysteryowl]

13. And my point is...

What difference does it make if he knew or not.
He retired after 24 years and went to congress. End of story.

I'm so mad about the media making it something when it is nothing.

[Think. Again.]

14. Then why are you directing people's attention to it?

[mysteryowl]

15. To make the point that it is a nothing even though the media make it so.

[Think. Again.]

18. But amplifying the media attention does the opposite.

[mysteryowl]

23. Do you want me to take down my thread for you?

[Think. Again.]

26. I am not Tim Walz.

[mysteryowl]

31. But you don't like my op and should start your own.

[Think. Again.]

32. Or, I can respond to yours.

[mysteryowl]

33. I get it that you want to fight with another DUer

I won't give you any more bait.

[Think. Again.]

34. I want you to consider that spreading rightwing talking points ...

...is something I disagree with, no matter how innocently the attempt to spread them are framed.

[Tadpole Raisin]

39. I did not get that impression from the OP at all but you keep harping on it.

Expressing frustration at the msm for bringing it up is perfectly reasonable.

If people did not post things about the bogus crap msm keeps bringing up there would be a lot less posting.

I understand your point of view as well but repeatedly complaining about it makes you seem aggressive and a bit OCD, needing to have the last word.

Duers can agree to disagree. You’ve done that.

[odins folly]

8. I agree

Being a retired USAF E-7 myself, I can’t remember anyone ever saying that a person was “abandoning” the unit when they retired. EVER.

The two yobs they claim felt abandoned by his retirement is fictitious or just outright bullshit lies. Any asshole talking head to claim disgust or any other such nonsense about a 24 year military career should give up their job. And take the oath themselves and wear the uniform.

And I am not just being pro military, I spent another 20 years after the AF as a civil servant with Homeland Security, TSA, and would echo the same sentiment about that part of my life too. Every retirement was welcomed by coworkers as a celebration of a service well spent. At some point, it is time to turn the keys over to those younger to carry the torch.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

11. No mention of Cadet Bone Spurs

Whose daddy bought his way out of military service with 5 deferments.

Or threatening to disown any of his sons should they enter military service..

Such PATRIOTISM

[mysteryowl]

17. Yeah, why not talk about this instead?

They have nothing controversial about Walz, so they have to keep going with a nothing burger.

[Think. Again.]

22. Good point, perhaps you can replace your OP with an OP on that.

[Greybnk48]

16. If we care about fact or fiction, the fact/truth is that he didn't know about deployment.

It's another MAGA lie thrown out into the ozone to fester or die, doesn't matter which. IT"S FALSE. A LIE. NOT TRUE. They should be called out on it, no matter what.

The truth should always matter.

[mysteryowl]

20. Agreed.

[Emile]

19. If they get this upset with a 24 year veteran, imagine

how upset they must be with Vietnam draft dodging bone spurs Trump!

[mysteryowl]

21. This should be the counter response if the media wants to keep this going.

[Think. Again.]

24. Yes. That should have been your counter-response.

[mysteryowl]

27. Well, if I was a journalist and thought of it

[Freethinker65]

25. He didn't. It's an attempt at creating another "but her emails" distraction

Walz didn't know if/when his unit would ever be deployed. He served over 20 years.

Walz misspoke when saying he's carried military arms IN war, when he should have said arms OF war, many years ago. He, like many currently in the military and veterans, never was involved in direct combat. That doesn't make his service less honorable. There is no stolen valor.

[mysteryowl]

29. Yep, this my stance too.

[bullimiami]

28. Apparently surrogates of bore spurs care.

[NoMoreRepugs]

30. Swiftboating Walz is another fictional issue for the Deplorables.

They sure do seem to enjoy their fantasy world.

[MaryMagdaline]

35. Seriously. He reupped after 911.

How many more years did he have to serve??

And if the government disagreed, they could have stop lossed him.

[ecstatic]

36. Exactly. It's dumb AF. Not sure who the target audience is

Democrats know it's bullshit, and trumpers do not give a fuck about the military - they support trump despite his well documented disrespect of McCain and gold star families.

"Independents" clearly don't give a fuck either since they swing back and forth between both sides.

If anyone is voting based on the military then they need to take a look at project 2025's plans. The choices that Tim Walz made after 24 YEARS of service shouldn't be their concern.

[Kaleva]

37. That's a lie that Walz knew about the deployment before returing

You should delete your bs post.

[ecstatic]

38. I think the OP is saying: even if true, so what?

After 20 years of service he's entitled to retirement regardless of the reason, and Walz stayed in for 24 years.

The right wing wants to make it messy back and forth on whether Walz knew his unit would be deploying. It doesn't matter. If you're set to retire, you have a right to do that. You're not obligated to stay for another 2 to 4 years and roll the dice one more time in a war zone. It all goes back to the "mind your own effin business" rule.