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Dennis Donovan

(23,500 posts)
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 07:15 AM Aug 12

KO: "It is hard to quantify how much damage Trump did to himself with this post"



Keith Olbermann
It is hard to quantify how much damage Trump did to himself with this post

There were large groups of holdouts in the middle and right who disagreed with us who've recognized he's been insane all this time

As of today, they know.


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Keith Olbermann
To my point. Norm actually thought this was a choice of some kind by Trump:

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KO: "It is hard to quantify how much damage Trump did to himself with this post" (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Aug 12 OP
If he wasn't so dangerous, this would be boringly tedious. But he is dangerous. VOTE. Joinfortmill Aug 12 #1
If he wasn't so dangerous COL Mustard Aug 12 #11
As of today they know malaise Aug 12 #2
Ugh Cosmocat Aug 12 #3
He's really gone to La La land, hasn't he? Ray Bruns Aug 12 #4
Yes, yes, that's right grandpa swimboy Aug 12 #5
The old saying DENVERPOPS Aug 12 #50
I'm thinking maybe with cookies and milk. Permanut Aug 12 #52
Bats are now referring to fellow Bats as "Trump-shit crazy." 3Hotdogs Aug 12 #6
Snicker!!! niyad Aug 12 #24
LOL Seinan Sensei Aug 12 #31
Psychologists have a term for this kind of behavior. multigraincracker Aug 12 #7
The first reporter to shout to trump "what the f*** are you talking about" should win a Pulitzer Prize. Srkdqltr Aug 12 #8
Hear Hear, Sir The Magistrate Aug 12 #12
Sadly, the gutless t#### media whores will not do so. niyad Aug 12 #25
Indeed, they're more likely to shout that at Harris. Wednesdays Aug 12 #29
Sadly true!!! niyad Aug 12 #30
lemme find a press pass IzzaNuDay Aug 12 #57
I'm hoping it's Kamala at the debate... druidity33 Aug 13 #62
This isn't damaging for him in the elast Johnny2X2X Aug 12 #9
Sadly you are correct. LeoWhalen1933 Aug 12 #54
Donald how do you know the Maintenance man was not a plant to make you look decreped? gordianot Aug 12 #10
I can just hear the TLP ad, with a woman's soft, insinuating voice. niyad Aug 12 #26
The paper bag full of water is ready to burst ouija Aug 12 #13
Who cheats donnie? KS Toronado Aug 12 #14
A fake image is election interference? Dem2theMax Aug 12 #15
Stormy says Donnie AIs it in the bedroom Johonny Aug 12 #16
No matter how unhinged or out of touch with reality he is liberal N proud Aug 12 #17
I think part of the problem is that so many have entwined their religion with travelingthrulife Aug 12 #18
They already have birdographer Aug 12 #33
It's not dementia but his malignant narcissism Zoomie1986 Aug 12 #42
Cult mentality on full display MyMission Aug 12 #45
It's not just timms139 Aug 12 #19
What evidence has trump offered for his claim? mwb970 Aug 12 #20
He said it. Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 12 #41
he included a picture tweeted to him by some random dude named "Charline" Skittles Aug 12 #53
Psychiatrists will not accept Trump for evaluation bucolic_frolic Aug 12 #21
They like to get paid, as well. usonian Aug 12 #37
I believe somewhere inside his drug-addled brain he is positioning himself for a possible loss. Scalded Nun Aug 12 #22
How does this damage Trump? lees1975 Aug 12 #23
Except that is not what is happening. whopis01 Aug 12 #34
The con man is projecting Quiet Em Aug 12 #27
Strawberries ... marble falls Aug 12 #28
Such a good actor. Bogart made you believe he was Queeg ..nt ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 12 #40
Good flick, good cast, good script. marble falls Aug 12 #46
So glad you posted this BattleRow Aug 12 #55
I am proud to say I posted the 1st Cain Mutiny Botany Aug 12 #58
It would require David Copperfield BattleRow Aug 12 #59
This is just more of the same, not a wakeup call for anybody. hay rick Aug 12 #32
Trump's Achilles heel is going to be whopis01 Aug 12 #35
Who is this maintenance worker? Do his coworkers agree? keithbvadu2 Aug 12 #36
Trump still believes that if he farts, then yells, "WHO FARTED?!" that no one will suspect that it's him. LaMouffette Aug 12 #38
Lying and corrupt, yes. Mad? I'm not sure. Straw Man Aug 12 #39
trump is reaching Hitler in the bunker mode...nt Wounded Bear Aug 12 #43
You try to teach kids not to lie SCantiGOP Aug 12 #44
Someone's got a sore head Astraea Aug 12 #47
It's not that he's nuts, k55f5r Aug 12 #48
I find it hard to believe this changed anything. It's par for the course with Trump. D23MIURG23 Aug 12 #49
Is over energized Don Jr. and Eric repeating this garbage? n/t hibbing Aug 12 #51
If Trump is the best BattleRow Aug 12 #56
Dump is gone.... real gone.... Blue Owl Aug 13 #60
"We get to create our own reality." czarjak Aug 13 #61

COL Mustard

(6,721 posts)
11. If he wasn't so dangerous
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 08:03 AM
Aug 12

He'd be a laughingstock. As it is, he might end up with the nuclear codes. VOTE!

malaise

(276,345 posts)
2. As of today they know
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 07:20 AM
Aug 12

Many DUers knew this years ago - ask Waterman.
I remember folks criticizing us for calling him mad.
Stark raving mad is kind

swimboy

(7,303 posts)
5. Yes, yes, that's right grandpa
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 07:50 AM
Aug 12

You’ve always had the biggest crowds.
Now, let’s get you back to your room and ready for bed.

druidity33

(6,530 posts)
62. I'm hoping it's Kamala at the debate...
Tue Aug 13, 2024, 06:21 AM
Aug 13

and that she says it with an eye roll. He might just explode.



Johnny2X2X

(21,273 posts)
9. This isn't damaging for him in the elast
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 08:01 AM
Aug 12

He's losing and I thnk he's freaking out at that, but no one cars about his crazy Tweets anymore.

And remember the golden rule for Trump, whenever he accuses someone of something, it's because he's already doing it or will be doing it very soon.

LeoWhalen1933

(1 post)
54. Sadly you are correct.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 05:20 PM
Aug 12

While I agree with Keith on the potential consequences that should happen after this action taken by Trump, it will be forgotten about in a day when he says something else nutty. We just need to vote.

gordianot

(15,450 posts)
10. Donald how do you know the Maintenance man was not a plant to make you look decreped?
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 08:02 AM
Aug 12

They are all plotting against you Donald.

KS Toronado

(18,928 posts)
14. Who cheats donnie?
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 08:27 AM
Aug 12

Someone who was there with a cell phone camera should start a social media page "Send in/post
your pictures of the rally with Air Force 2 in the background."




Dem2theMax

(10,153 posts)
15. A fake image is election interference?
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 08:28 AM
Aug 12

TSF says Kamala should be disqualified because he claims she is doing this? Now, let's think about who HAS been putting out fake images about their rallies.

Hmmm, I can only come up with one name, and it's not Kamala.

liberal N proud

(60,865 posts)
17. No matter how unhinged or out of touch with reality he is
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 08:45 AM
Aug 12

His cult will stay with him.
They see reports of this as the media persecuting him.

I don’t think any psychologist will ever determine what makes a MAGA so dumb and ignorant

travelingthrulife

(319 posts)
18. I think part of the problem is that so many have entwined their religion with
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 09:00 AM
Aug 12

their politics and now they can't deny one without denying the other.

birdographer

(2,322 posts)
33. They already have
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 10:15 AM
Aug 12

Books are written about it. Authoritarianism. They need someone to submit to, and when that person hates the same people they hate, they glom onto him. It's a very deep-seated need. If trump died (please, god), they would simply shift to another authoritarian figure.

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
42. It's not dementia but his malignant narcissism
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 12:13 PM
Aug 12

That explains everything about him. When narcissists feel challenged or threatened, they'll say anything to win, to make themselves feel superior to you, and truth doesn't matter. He doesn't care about truth in the least. Only about trouncing the challenger or threat.

I'm glad you never had to deal with such a person, or didn't realize you were, but that doesn't change the fact that everything about him makes sense only through the lens of malignant narcissism. That explains it all--even that thing on top of his head.

MyMission

(1,974 posts)
45. Cult mentality on full display
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 12:46 PM
Aug 12

They will likely need deprogramming.
And yet I see many republicons connected to cult 45 magats refuse to support him.

His cult is a smaller percentage of that party than it was. It's still a lot of crazy brainwashed people, to be sure, but I know a number of republicons who will not vote for tfg. Some are voting for Kennedy, some for Harris, some may write in a name or not vote.

He's displayed crazy criminal behavior and rants throughout his private and political life. So many times I've read a headline on DU about him loosing it, melting down, etc.. Each episode mentioned helped to erode a small part of his support out there, from those who had accepted his behavior while not enthusiastically supporting it. From immigration to workers to family and reproductive rights challenged he lost some support; from criminal activity to prosecution and conviction he lost some support; from reality TV star to political failure he lost some support; from his theft of documents to his attempts to stay in power, foment insurrection with an authoritarian agenda he lost some support, and so on. Small numbers have fallen away with each action or rant. The ones that still proudly support him are among the most deranged and delusional themselves.

I see this rant as a bit more deranged and unhinged than anything else he's posted, which is saying a lot...not that I read many of his posts, just what I read from here. This is a toddler temper tantrum rant, which will help to erode his support further. Not fair!?! Not prepared or able to wage his campaign against Kamala Harris and Tim Walz!?! Poor tfg! Next he'll churn up the hate.

As you point out, his cult will stand by him. Some on the fringes will not. More will slip away.
Some republicon donors will probably want tfg to step down and try to exert influence, but there are too many crazies in their party to manage any significant agreement. We still need to work hard and GOTV. They can't challenge a landslide victory. Ok, they can and will challenge any victory we have, where they've set up circumstances to be able to change or challenge the results.
GOTV for a blue wave, tsunami, landslide!

timms139

(168 posts)
19. It's not just
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 09:13 AM
Aug 12

Trump that our country has to fear. The project 2025 group and others have been planning for over 20 years to take over control of the gov. They have screwed with who can vote ,they have stacked the federal courts with people who are now making unhinged moves and Mitch along with Trump got the SCOTUS where they want it . WE have Rubio,Johnson, Jordan ,Cruz, and a host of others that would carry out their plans if they could get them into the white house. These people just don't have the lure like Trump to our crazy minority of people who vote without knowing the real reason who or what people should vote for. I am sure that removing Trump will not stop the battle we are fighting for the future of our democracy .

Skittles

(157,406 posts)
53. he included a picture tweeted to him by some random dude named "Charline"
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 04:34 PM
Aug 12

and there are people who wouldn't mind Trump with the nuke codes

Scalded Nun

(1,323 posts)
22. I believe somewhere inside his drug-addled brain he is positioning himself for a possible loss.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 09:25 AM
Aug 12

Crazy may keep him out of jail, because that is where he is going after the big loss in November.

lees1975

(5,389 posts)
23. How does this damage Trump?
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 09:32 AM
Aug 12

The news media will ignore it and his followers will believe it. It will be a secret they all keep.

whopis01

(3,683 posts)
34. Except that is not what is happening.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 10:16 AM
Aug 12

Just looking right now I see the story of Trump's lies about Harris' crowds on CNN, MSNBC, AP, Seattle Times, New York Times, Washington Post, Forbes, Hindustan Times, etc.

Are you going to see this on Fox or OAN? No - of course not. But there isn't some conspiracy across the news media to keep this a secret.

BattleRow

(775 posts)
55. So glad you posted this
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 07:55 PM
Aug 12

as I don't know how..but I have been thinking of The Caine Mutiny all this past week.

Anyone hear Trump jingling his coins yet?

Botany

(72,029 posts)
58. I am proud to say I posted the 1st Cain Mutiny
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 09:00 PM
Aug 12

Thread on DU as I watched his train wreck in front of the Association of Black Journalists
interview. Even Trump’s people know he is
nuts and is going to lose and that he is nuttier than a squirrel turd. They have been trying to hide him for some time now.

hay rick

(8,104 posts)
32. This is just more of the same, not a wakeup call for anybody.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 10:10 AM
Aug 12

It's Trump lying all the time with impunity, making easily disprovable claims, often about trivial matters.

The important difference, in my mind, is people are exhausted by Trump and see Kamala as an off ramp to get away from his lies and fear-mongering. The fact that Trump spouts so many obvious lies makes it really easy to grab one and get off the train.

whopis01

(3,683 posts)
35. Trump's Achilles heel is going to be
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 10:19 AM
Aug 12

that he can't tell the difference between 2000 supporters and 1000 supporters who yell twice as loud.


He is pushing so hard on things that get his die-hard supporters even more excited and worked up. I am sure it is because he loves the feedback and affirmation they give him. But it does nothing to increase his votes.

LaMouffette

(2,203 posts)
38. Trump still believes that if he farts, then yells, "WHO FARTED?!" that no one will suspect that it's him.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 11:40 AM
Aug 12

He is clinging desperately to his old trick of projection, flinging accusations at Kamala of things he himself is guilty of:

"Kamala CHEATED!"

"This is the way Democrats win elections, by CHEATING!"

"She had nobody waiting and the 'crowd' looked like 10,000 people!"

Plus the recent news from the Trump campaign that Iran hacked their campaign. More projection, based on Russia hacking Hillary's emails and the DNC. Plus so unoriginal. All they can come up with to accuse Harris of is the dirty tricks that they themselves pulled in 2016.

Morans.


Straw Man

(6,739 posts)
39. Lying and corrupt, yes. Mad? I'm not sure.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 11:46 AM
Aug 12

If he believed it, yes he would be insane. I don't think that he does, though. It's just another con, a play to the rubes to keep them pumped up. Yes, it's a very stupid one, and one could argue that the real insanity lies in thinking that this will be successful.

SCantiGOP

(14,139 posts)
44. You try to teach kids not to lie
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 12:22 PM
Aug 12

I recall learning around 7 years old never to lie when there was clear evidence that you were lying. Not because it was wrong, but because you were going to get caught.
Trump hasn’t learned that yet, or, just as likely, he doesn’t even realize when he is lying because no one close to him will ever call him out.

k55f5r

(352 posts)
48. It's not that he's nuts,
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 02:18 PM
Aug 12

He is using the same superpower that has worked for him all along.
His dad's best friend was Norman Vincent Peale of "The Power Of Positive Thinking" fame. He taught tRump that you can influence people by making them believe that you believe. And he is really good at it.

D23MIURG23

(3,033 posts)
49. I find it hard to believe this changed anything. It's par for the course with Trump.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 02:22 PM
Aug 12

This asshole told a national audience that he thought we might be able to cure covid by injecting disinfectant or using shortwave UV internally, and somehow that didn't hit. He said that to a national audience at a time when a large fraction of the country had nothing to do but follow news.

He's been a senile lunatic since day one. People don't care because they expect it from him, and they've been conditioned to believe it doesn't matter.

BattleRow

(775 posts)
56. If Trump is the best
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 08:10 PM
Aug 12

that the Republican party can come up with,what in God's name does it say about the rest of it's members?

Is this really who they want to represent us to the rest of the world?

Or to be a role model for children here at home?


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