Behind Closed Doors...

[kentuck]

Republicans are huddled. They are worried. They chose a convicted felon as their nominee for President and he is dropping like a rock in the polls. This does not bode well for many of them. They could lose their seats.

Unfortunately, they have made their bed and they have to sleep in it.

If the American people wake up and recognize what these political criminals have hoisted on them, they are in deep trouble.

There is no joy in Mudville.

[marble falls]

1. It's nice to hear you change your tune!

[kentuck]

2. ???

explain.

[marble falls]

5. The possitivity, that you haven't given up, that you know TFG is going down bigly. It's refreshing!

[kentuck]

8. It's easy to get depressed in these times.

I try to remain as optimistic as possible.

[Hope22]

37. We aren't human if this doesn't hit us hard.

The media has had this #ell show stoked for almost 10 years. This….is a very slow train wreck. Keep on keeping on. Peace and love to you. 💗🙏🏼💐

[Prairie Gates]

4. If there is any sustained sign of down ballot erosion, things could get interesting

As it stands, I still think the election is a coin toss, and top of the ticket at this point won't affect down ballot.

[moonscape]

6. It will via turnout

[kentuck]

7. In my opinion...

the top of the ticket could very much affect down ballot. If the support for Harris and Walz continues to grow, it could send a lot of Republicans home.

[Prairie Gates]

9. It could

In my view, we're not close to there yet, and it's just as likely that the electorate will divorce the top of the ticket from down ballot races because Trump's presence is so strange.

[wnylib]

47. Republicans and Independents who don't like Ttump

will probably split their ticket, voting for Harris/Walz, and for Rs down ticket.

But a large turnout of enthusiastic Dems might mean Dem winners down ticket.

[brush]

56. Maybe, but the Dobbs decision to take away abortion rights will still be...

a factor with millions of women and loved one. And some will blame republicans.

[no_hypocrisy]

10. Four weeks ago, it was the Democrats huddled together,

worried about losing down-ticket races because of Joe Biden and Republicans were gloating.

[cloudbase]

11. They had two chances to be rid of him.

I've no sympathy for their predicament.

[surfered]

12. What depresses me and scares me is how many of my fellow Americans support Trump.

[edisdead]

13. Don't let it get you down.

Don’t let it get you down. They have always been here. Long before Trump. You can’t change that. But you can recognize there are many many good people around you.

Case in point I was at a large outdoor bar and restaurant last night. There were a few dudes wearing Trump garb. One of the people on our party commenting on how many douchebags were there. It started to bring the mood down. I exclaimed, “Look we are having a good time and we are pissing it away because of 3 people”

There is a lot more to be happy about than not. Focus on the good. Focusing on the bad rarely helps anything.

[surfered]

16. No, I'm good. Just disappointed that he has such a large following

[OverBurn]

33. It's just unbelievable how many like that lunatic. I've never seen one redeemable attribute in him, he is so revolting.

[liberalla]

35. Revolting! Yes, and I remember him as far back as to 80's! I've always had a "gut level" dislike for him.

He was just so obnoxious, self centered, conceited... I didn't really know a lot about him, and certainly had NO desire to know more.
blech!

[Unwind Your Mind]

42. Yep, I remember the thing with Marla Maples and the tabloids

I thought he was gross then and I was young

[Chalco]

39. Yesterday as I was driving home from the gym in Santa Clarita California

There was an at least 3 mile long parade of Trumpists with banners, flags, etc. driving the other way. Sad.

[Roy Rolling]

43. Flags don't vote

I’ve never found that choosing the best manager in business was the personnel candidate flying the biggest flag on their pickup truck. Call me old-fashioned. The rolling armada of cult members is more annoying than attractive. A shit show.😏

[usonian]

14. They can't drop him. They can't keep him. Makes you wonder if they wouldn't "welcome" an accident.

Spoiler Alert for those who have not read James Thurber's "The Greatest Man in the World". Do so now.

https://loa-shared.s3.us-west-2.amazonaws.com/static/pdf/Thurber_Greatest_Man.pdf

The L.A.Times framed it in 2015. Comparing Trump to Aviation Hero Smurch:

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/opinion-la/la-ol-donald-trump-greatest-man-world-20150916-story.html (no paywall for me, and I substitute orange makeup for tobacco juice. )

the “greatest man” in the world was a low-rent criminal and a cheap, orange-smeared vulgarian.


And a befuddled government makes him have an accident, interestingly, falling out a window, to save the embarrassment.

The article has full spoilers.

2015:

The quandary for the sober-sided Republican leadership is, do they try to throw Trump out the window, make it look like an accident, and give him a fancy political funeral where they can, like Thurber’s men of substance, carry on about how well Trump served his party and his country?

Or is Trump truly so big – “really huge” – that he doesn’t need those GOP stiffs and mugs? Just maybe, he could wind up tossing the GOP establishment from the window instead, as the crowd in the street cheers.

Yes, he did. And now, the tables are turned, but will the completely neutered GOP toss him out a window? Instead, they might "hope" that someone on a rooftop ...

[mucholderthandirt]

20. My opinion is, that's what the "assassination" was about.

Either a feeler to see how something happening to Trump would go over with the base, or a failed attempt. Set up the shooter, going to kill that fool, no martyring him, take out the orange bastard. But, they neglected to make sure the fool could actually shoot straight.

My conspiracy theory is, Vance goes, then Trump either strokes out, or falls out a window, or the next shooter gets him. As long as he's done, buried, soon to be forgotten, it matters not. Then whoever the new VP choice is, really who they think can beat Kamala Harris, takes over, gets a ton of sympathy votes, and sails into the White House. Even if they lose, they're set up for the next cycle. No more crazy on the outside, keep it all inside and the real bosses are running the country.

The big money people don't give a shit about Trump, or Vance, or the base. All they want is a puppet they can control. Last one was GWB, he might have been an idiot, but he apparently wasn't totally batshit crazy. I think the money people lost control of the MAGA base, which is why we have people like Empty Green and the Bobo. Those kind weren't supposed to end up elected. A little crazy, like Mike Johnson, maybe, but full-out, needs to be in a nut ward? Nah.

The course will correct itself. I predict we get two terms of Harris/Walz, and then it's back on.

[birdographer]

38. This is interesting

and I like it. If some of us are coming to this conclusion as the only feasible way out for them, we have to know that it has occurred to them. I firmly believe trump had Epstein killed because he was going to testify against him. He had become a liability. This seems to be the way they think. And now trump is a liability. If the stress was going to take him out, it would have by now. His whole life has been a matter of living in chaos and uncertainty (will the banks still lend him money? Will the casino go belly-up?) and skating on the edge; he's too used to this to succumb to it naturally. His base will accept any authoritarian bigot they put on the ballot. I don't think they considered the possibility that the shooter would miss such a big target.

[wnylib]

48. I think it's simpler than that.

Trump will stay on the ticket but his handlers will keep him as much in the bavkground as possible, considering it's Trump. Vance will continue to be the campaign spokesperson who does interviews and rallies.

If they pull off a win by hook or crook, Vance will be running the show, just like Cheney ran the show under Bush the Lesser, and Bush the Elder ran the show under St. Raygun. It would be possible for the MAGA backers to sideline the Orange Criminal after the election because, by election day, he will be so out if it that all they'd have to do is medicate him and prop him up occasionally for the public. Within the first 6 months he would be out of office and in a nursing home after a public announcement of some sort of debilitating disorder. They would never admit that his brain was mush.

But, I do not believe that he will win. The MAGAs will try to steal the election, and will hold up the results as long as possible OR will make a quick claim to win and try to take over, but will be pushed back down.

[NJCher]

51. what about Walz

this guy could be president after Harris does 2 terms.

I could totally see that. He has the kind of personality that makes people love him, kind of in the same way Biden is loved.

[usonian]

53. I sense some nasty things set in motion before Walz was chosen.

Trump has been shot at, his plane is down for maintenance. What?

Too many accidents

And my own little conspiracy theory:
https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19307454

Biden had an "accident" too, just before that debate. Jet lag? You don't recover quickly from that.

I didn't have a pick for VP, but Walz is amazing me with his energy, enthusiasm and style.

[Escurumbele]

22. I believe that many republicans who play to their base will vote against trump in November, I am convinced that

will happen. Some may not vote for Harris/Walz, but they will not vote for the buffoon while telling their base otherwise, and some will vote for the Democratic ticket because they understand it is the right thing to do. Republicans are sick of the buffoon, most except the MAGA republicans who also make other republicans sick.

I want Harris/Walz to win by a landslide on both the popular vote and the EC (the EC must be abolished), for Democrats to take the Congress and the Senate to allow good policies to be passed without their constant obstruction.

Also, to increase the number of judges in the corrupt supreme court, and maybe even impeach Alito and Thomas.

[Rafi]

24. Wouldn't doubt it. And a heart attack can be induced without a trace with the right drug.

It Drump continues to slide, he may slide six feet under.

[getagrip_already]

27. Hes been paranoid of that his whole life believe it or not...

Thats why he insists on small bottles or cans of diet pepsi that he can see being opened.

And why he likes fast food. He has said its perfect, they have no idea who you are, or that you are coming, so they dont mess with your food.

He knows what happens to people who fall out of favor with russian money. And he has a lot to fear there.

[NJCher]

52. that is very interesting

but even closer to home....his own family. As DU poster GoCubsGo thinks it could be even closer to home:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19323337

[mahina]

15. A reminder that every house seats is up too

Tick tock all you bastards

Not you OP

[Botany]

25. The winds of Roe-Vember might be very strong on Republican members of the house.

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The top of the ticket is a convicted felon, Laura Trump is looting the RNC to pay Donny’s
legal bills, and women and those of us who love them are pissed off about their loss of their
rights.

[Escurumbele]

17. "Unfortunately, they have made their bed and they have to sleep in it." One small change on your statement "Fortunately"

"Fortunately, they have made their bed and they have to sleep in it."

[kentuck]

19. Yes, fortunately for the rest of us...

"Unfortunately" for them.

[spanone]

18. K&R

[markie]

21. maybe no sleep...

but they will lie in it ....restlessly

[Botany]

23. And Trump installed his daughter in law as head of the RNC who is taking in donations and sending them

…. to Donny to pay his skyrocketing legal bills and civil penalties so the RNC will have little
money to help all the other down ballot republicans. And a little fun fact is that to raise money
you need money to begin with so this election might be a true blue tsunami.

Link to tweet

?lang=en

[BrianTheEVGuy]

26. They can't say they were not warned

Even back in the Bush years, GOP strategists warned they needed a more tolerant and appealing GOP. Instead they smoked the MAGA crack, and the side effects are deadly.

[BComplex]

41. That is exactly what happened, BrianTheEVGuy!

That time they were smoking the tea party crack, but it's the same MAGA crowd that will never listen to sane people, and the republicans turned their entire party over to their crazies.

[BattleRow]

44. The inmates have taken

over the asylum...

[wnylib]

49. They were desperate to defeat Hillary so they

embraced Trump's crude "social rebel" behavior and gaslighting as tools to defeat her because normal political discourse couldn't win against her knowledge and experience.

But Trump was a one trick pony, effective just that one time with backing from a racist backlash after Obama and help from Putin. He embraced the racist extremists and social misfits who identified with his rebellion and social outsider "bad boy" image.

His tactics failed to create a red wave in 2022. He revived the outsider bad boy image for 2024 by bragging about his indictments and showing off his mug shot. But his behavior in his election interference/hush money trial made him look weak. Harris's background as a prosecutor and her confidence, strength, and sanity as a candidate destroyed his image as a heroic outlaw. Her charisma is genuine, coming from a sincere liking of people. Trump's charisma was just a gaslighting impression of the real thing.

Remember how much he bragged about his indictments and sold images of his mug shot? Notice that he doesn't do it anymore? It's a liability now in this campaign, not an asset.

[HagathaCrispy]

28. Still, if trump said they would build giant gas ovens to shove us in

He would still win 40% of the vote and 90% of mississippi alabama white voters.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

29. JD's arracks are not landing!..PROJECT 2025 getting boos!..

No positions on policy!

No wonder MAGAts are panicking. Good!

Sho no quarter Kamala and Tim.

[randr]

30. Now is the time to start kicking them

Do not let them lay claim to any dignity. Cover them with the mud they have brewed.

[Freddie]

31. They have to carry their ticket to term

No exceptions!

[BattleRow]

45. Carry their ticket full term

because they cannot legally abort.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

32. This will be fun to watch

TFG has hurt down ballot GOP candidates in prior election

[liberalla]

36. Your post makes me feel all warm and tingly inside!

May the Republics have no joy and feel great worry.
And may they be going down, down, down!

[KS Toronado]

40. People in Mudville enjoy mud

they make pies to eat, wallow in it like pigs, throw it, spread it far & wide and somewhere along the
way they totally forgot about soap & water and voters are beginning to notice they smell like shit.

[Emile]

46. Great post kentuck! K & R

[C Moon]

50. They not only chose trump, they shouted about his greatness.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

54. Behind Closed Doors ... Just a Dress Vance gets his jollies. . . . . nt

[The Wizard]

55. How much did George Soros pay Trump

to undermine the Republican Party?