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*WI 🟦 Harris: 51% 🟥 Trump: 42% -- MI 🟦 Harris: 48% 🟥 Trump: 43% -- PA 🟦 Harris: 49% 🟥 Trump 45% * (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2024 OP
That Wisconsin number is something senseandsensibility Aug 2024 #1
When you disparage Milwaukee Norbert Aug 2024 #14
Walz? JJ101 Aug 2024 #26
TFG must be having heart palpitations at this point. Metaphorical Aug 2024 #2
Fantastic Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #3
Confirms the NYT/Sienna polls DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2024 #5
Yup Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #7
I wouldn't use NYT/Siena as the standard. lees1975 Aug 2024 #19
Huh? Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #20
They are the #1 ranked polling group by 538. RedSpartan Aug 2024 #24
legit polls do not work like that (and the NYT/Siena poll is a legitimate poll) Celerity Aug 2024 #46
I don't think President Biden's decision to drop out was strategic COL Mustard Aug 2024 #17
I have been saying pretty much the same, MOREOVER ... usonian Aug 2024 #34
The PA numbers are particularly encouraging mnmoderatedem Aug 2024 #4
This has been a decidedly poor summer for Mr. trump. Torchlight Aug 2024 #6
MFer is TOAST! Keep the pressure on!!! Happy Hoosier Aug 2024 #8
Until 8pm Hawaii time on Nov 5th! ...nt ArkansasDemocrat1 Aug 2024 #33
Yes, keep the pedal to the metal! SunSeeker Aug 2024 #39
Looks great, but what do we know about this poll? LAS14 Aug 2024 #9
Just one data point Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #10
From their website... progressoid Aug 2024 #16
No partisan bias there. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #27
The crucial point about it: Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #44
Campaign in Florida, Texas, Nebraska, and other places Democrats are running. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2024 #11
I bet FAU is polling right now.... bagimin Aug 2024 #35
I don't think it would hurt if Democrats would invest Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #45
Awesome!!!! Sugarcoated Aug 2024 #12
At this point, is it too soon to suggest a........ jaxexpat Aug 2024 #13
Also from the poll...Which candidate would you feel more comfortable babysitting your child? progressoid Aug 2024 #15
I can't believe anyone would trust donOLD SEX ABUSER with their kid Tribetime Aug 2024 #21
Those 20%ers are his most ignorant or violent cultists. Justice matters. Aug 2024 #31
what about RFK Jr? n/t PedroXimenez Aug 2024 #25
As dead as that bear peppertree Aug 2024 #28
My child? Wednesdays Aug 2024 #43
As much zs I feel compelled to take polls with a geain of salt, this is very good news. ShazzieB Aug 2024 #18
This is good GregariousGroundhog Aug 2024 #22
She is going to blow him out ouija Aug 2024 #23
And trump thinks he is going to turn this around with an interview with musk. Hahahaha Klarkashton Aug 2024 #29
Ba-Bam! applegrove Aug 2024 #30
And the convention has not even started yet! No complacency though. Justice matters. Aug 2024 #32
I am hoping for massive voter registration and GOTV efforts in Philly, Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta, Phoenix, Vegas, and OrlandoDem2 Aug 2024 #36
From Huffpost: this bump is in part by young voters onetexan Aug 2024 #37
Michigan is a solidly blue state - all branches of government controlled by dems AlexSFCA Aug 2024 #38
This was a Bullfinch poll Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #40
According to Ari just now, it's a statistical Deminpenn Aug 2024 #41
Ari may know rap lyrics but he'd better brush up oasis Aug 2024 #47
Women's 4X400 relay in track and field Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #48
This is awesome news! But let's not take our foot off the gas! Wednesdays Aug 2024 #42

Norbert

(7,844 posts)
14. When you disparage Milwaukee
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 03:48 PM
Aug 2024

You may need to expect things like this. All the orange malignancy needs to do is keep talking and he will do the work for us. Lol

Johnny2X2X

(24,390 posts)
3. Fantastic
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 02:34 PM
Aug 2024

Know this, a few weeks ago numbers like this in the opposite directon caused Joe Biden to withdraw from the race.

These back up the NY Time Sienna polling we just saw showing Harris +4 in each of these 3 states.

Johnny2X2X

(24,390 posts)
7. Yup
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 02:40 PM
Aug 2024

And I think there was a prominent pollster who had Trump in MI +7 right before Joe withdrew, I think that poll was a big contributor to Biden's decision.

And of course there is internal polling that the party has that shows these trends too.

lees1975

(7,167 posts)
19. I wouldn't use NYT/Siena as the standard.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 04:12 PM
Aug 2024

Looks like the pressure is forcing them to acknowledge she is winning.

Johnny2X2X

(24,390 posts)
20. Huh?
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 04:13 PM
Aug 2024

You think the NY Time Sienna is biased because people pressured them into these results? Were they biased when they had Trump +8?

RedSpartan

(1,766 posts)
24. They are the #1 ranked polling group by 538.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 04:22 PM
Aug 2024

Not that 538 is the be-all, end-all, but still...

Celerity

(54,801 posts)
46. legit polls do not work like that (and the NYT/Siena poll is a legitimate poll)
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 07:13 PM
Aug 2024
forcing them to acknowledge she is winning


COL Mustard

(8,345 posts)
17. I don't think President Biden's decision to drop out was strategic
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 04:10 PM
Aug 2024

But man, what it accomplished:

Waited until the Republican convention was over and they had their ticket set.
Pulled the rug out from under TFG and made him reset to run against Kamala. No Sleepy Joe there!
Took away any satisfaction TFG could ever have gotten by winning against JRB in November.
Totally re-energized the entire anti-Trump universe.
Introduced us to the term "tonic masculinity" and one hell of a good guy in Walz.
Made Shady Vance look even weirder.

Maybe it was 6D chess, maybe it wasn't and we can't coast on it until November but Damn it's fired up a whole bunch of people!

Thank you President Biden for all your years of service and for one final act of self-sacrifice.

usonian

(26,423 posts)
34. I have been saying pretty much the same, MOREOVER ...
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 05:09 PM
Aug 2024

He gets an energetic team to accomplish all that he couldn't, with a congress full of howler monkeys and walking dead,

AND he doesn't have to take any more s*** from anyone. He can call his lawyer from the beach, and sue the living daylights out of his detractors for threats and defamation,

plus he gets his pick of Secret Service guards, even on the beach.

mnmoderatedem

(3,913 posts)
4. The PA numbers are particularly encouraging
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 02:35 PM
Aug 2024

Perhaps the most critical swing state, and it seems that is the swing state trump had his biggest leads.

And that's with Kamala NOT selecting Shapiro as her running mate.

Torchlight

(7,006 posts)
6. This has been a decidedly poor summer for Mr. trump.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 02:38 PM
Aug 2024

His campaign lack any real vim or vigor, while his base has become an actual laughing stock in national discourse, and his troll army is reduced to copying and pasting tired variations on 'I'm so very concerned about If, Ands and Buts! Why Aren't You?"

All in all, a meek start to his campaigning season.

Johnny2X2X

(24,390 posts)
10. Just one data point
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 03:38 PM
Aug 2024

Doesn't matter how legit this poll is, it backs up the NY Times Sienna poll.

progressoid

(53,351 posts)
16. From their website...
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 03:50 PM
Aug 2024

Our Mission

Leaders who support centrist common sense compromise are at risk.

‍Each election results in more extreme candidates, thriving on division to propel their fame… at our expense.

The Independent Center’s mission is advocate for the millions of Americans who believe we share common ground.

Centrist independent voters are the majority. It’s time we raise our voices to support leaders who will work together to solve our challenges with tolerance & compromise.

Through our research, events & outreach we will promote & support candidates who share our values.


https://www.independentcenter.org/poll-toplines/exclusive-poll-election-2024-survey-of-swing-states
 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
44. The crucial point about it:
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 06:49 PM
Aug 2024

Yes, the MOE per state is a bit high at 4.38, but they polled likely voters, always the best indicator of the election day outcome.

This is an excellent poll for Harris, pre-Labor Day.

I have a strong feeling that those first post-summer polls will be crushing for Cheatolini.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,974 posts)
11. Campaign in Florida, Texas, Nebraska, and other places Democrats are running.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 03:42 PM
Aug 2024

Last edited Mon Aug 12, 2024, 07:17 PM - Edit history (1)

The ketchup will really hit the walls if Kamala is within striking distance in Florida, ties, or takes the lead there.

Though do not underestimate Ronnie D. He cannot prevent Kamala Harris from coming to Florida or Abbot regarding Texas.

bagimin

(1,706 posts)
35. I bet FAU is polling right now....
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 05:15 PM
Aug 2024

rec. pot is also on the FL. ballot. Could it be a perfect storm?

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
45. I don't think it would hurt if Democrats would invest
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 06:59 PM
Aug 2024

In the big cities of Texas. Ignore the rest of the state--it's a lost cause. But DFW, San Antonio and Houston?

Getting all of those areas fired up wouldn't hurt anything, and might help Allred a great deal. Metro DFW, Houston and San Antonio combined are half of the Texas population, and greater than the entire population of any swing state.

Those cities need some love, though, to put together some ferocious GOTV operations.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
13. At this point, is it too soon to suggest a........
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 03:45 PM
Aug 2024

50 state blitz to claim both houses of congress (in a meaningful way) to pass a few constitutional amendments which have been sorely missing for decade

Like:
Equal rights amendment
Eliminate the electoral college
Term limits for USSC justices
Outlaw for-profit prisons
Universal healthcare
Dental and vision care Medicare
Outlaw lite beer and loud music playing at gas pumps........... who's with me?

Justice matters.

(10,021 posts)
31. Those 20%ers are his most ignorant or violent cultists.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 04:58 PM
Aug 2024

They want a violent dictatorship that will terminate the constitution.

ShazzieB

(22,823 posts)
18. As much zs I feel compelled to take polls with a geain of salt, this is very good news.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 04:11 PM
Aug 2024

Foe one thing, we know those numbers are extremely important to TSF, which means they may have a demoralizing effect on him (and certainly won't be helpful to him).

Also, the fact that poll after poll is coming in so favorable to Harris doesn't seem likely to be a mere coincidence.

GregariousGroundhog

(7,593 posts)
22. This is good
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 04:21 PM
Aug 2024

If Harris keeps Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, she can lose Georgia, Nevada, and Arizona and still beat Trump 270-268.

Klarkashton

(5,395 posts)
29. And trump thinks he is going to turn this around with an interview with musk. Hahahaha
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 04:34 PM
Aug 2024

Musk will be smoking a big blunt and letting trump lie his ass off. Pathetic desperate Hail Mary.

Justice matters.

(10,021 posts)
32. And the convention has not even started yet! No complacency though.
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 05:00 PM
Aug 2024

Keep working for a record Blue Wave!

OrlandoDem2

(3,240 posts)
36. I am hoping for massive voter registration and GOTV efforts in Philly, Milwaukee, Detroit, Atlanta, Phoenix, Vegas, and
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 05:21 PM
Aug 2024

Charlotte.

We can win if we find the unregistered voters, get them registered, and then GOTV.

Lesssss gooooooooooooo

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
37. From Huffpost: this bump is in part by young voters
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 05:24 PM
Aug 2024
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/election-2024-live-updates_n_66b3ac49e4b05d0bc280816b/liveblog_66b9eecce4b04b3eb251ae0e
HuffPost Staff
Aug 7, 2024, 01:36 PM EDT

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Vice President Kamala Harris and her running mate, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, campaigned through five battleground states this past week.
"Harris Leads Trump Among Young Adults In Battleground States, New Poll Finds
A new poll of 18-to-29-year-olds in battleground states conducted by John Della Volpe for Won’t PAC Down, first reported by Politico Playbook, showed Harris’ approval rating with this group of voters has risen by 16 percentage points since July.

The poll also found Harris leading Trump by 13 percentage points in a two-way race."




AlexSFCA

(6,321 posts)
38. Michigan is a solidly blue state - all branches of government controlled by dems
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 05:25 PM
Aug 2024

MI Governor, AG, SoS, state senate and house - all controlled by dems. Both US senators from MI are dems. It’s not even close to a purple state in 2024. Harris will easily carry MI (even Biden would have).

PA and WI are not far either. Biden won PA by a significant margin > 100k votes and the state has become only more blue in the last 4 years. Governor, AG, SoS, both US senators and state house - all dems. State senate is in GOP control, hopefully, not for long. In other words, all statewide elections have been won by dems in recent years in PA.

WI appears much more purple than MI and PA as both state senate and house are controlled by GOP. Still, all statewide races have been won by dems in recent years including governor, AG, SoS and both US senators.

The good news is that all three states appear to have strong election systems - all controlled by dems unlike GA.

I am very optimistic that we will carry all states than Biden did in 2020 with bigger margins with the possible exception of GA which has serious issues with voter registration and access. On the other hand, we will have a realistic chance of winning in NC where Biden would have lost.

oasis

(53,891 posts)
47. Ari may know rap lyrics but he'd better brush up
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 07:32 PM
Aug 2024

on his knowledge of “MOMENTUM” and the effects thereof.
Kamala/Walz&Co. are on their way to steamrolling the entire MAGAbot outfit.

Wednesdays

(23,041 posts)
42. This is awesome news! But let's not take our foot off the gas!
Mon Aug 12, 2024, 06:24 PM
Aug 2024

Keep working as though we were still behind! Get out the vote!

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