Chuck Todd actually said something profound about trump

[tulipsandroses]

Well it wasn't his original idea- He said that someone in trump's circle told him this.

One reason trump has not been able to launch an effective attack against VP Harris is that he really wanted to " avenge" his 2020 loss against Biden. He really wanted to beat Biden to say that " See, 2020 was an aberration". That has been taken away from him and he has not been able to get over that.

Of course, I don't think that is the only reason, but it does make sense. He has spent the last 4 years planning to beat Joe Biden. Not just to say he beat him, but to say I am better than him. I was better than him in 2020 and it was taken from me.
He's not able to pivot to VP Harris because he's still mad that he won't get his " revenge" against President Biden.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

1. I kind of got that impression

Now that Biden is out, the fight has gone out of TFG.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

2. That makes sense,

Been A Dick is all about revenge and lies.

[skip fox]

14. I half-agree.

It makes Donald-sense. It's actually the kind of thing that would bother him forever.

After al, he might have originally run over an Obama's joke at a correspondents dinner.

[sdfernando]

30. That's true but

oranganus knew that he couldn't beat Obama and his twisted, demented mind couldn't handle being beaten by a BLACK MAN!....and now he has to contend with a very strong BLACK WOMAN.

Oh, you can't make this stuff up!!!

[Lonestarblue]

38. Being beaten by a black man would have been bad enough. Beaten beaten by a black woman will be soul crushing.

And that is why Trump’s allies like lawyer Cleta Mitchell are doing everything they can to steal the election for him.

[vanlassie]

55. On top of the various black female officers of the

judicial system that are beating him up.

[CincyDem]

58. All those black women...they ain't black women...they're AI-"d" white guys.

of course.

[MoseShrute]

42. Reason #2,453,989

Just another reason donOld isn’t fit to be president. What a petty man-child.

[OMGWTF]

16. "Bein' a Dick Donald" (Benedict Arnold) is one of the many monikers I have for him.

[Seinan Sensei]

59. Love it

That's a moniker that just rolls off the tongue

[Maeve]

3. Yep. Now it is forever that Biden beat him

And he knows he lost, no matter what he says.and he'll never win against Biden again

[BattleRow]

12. Revenge is a dish best when

served very cold.when hell freezes over..

Donald the Revenger..

[pat_k]

4. In Trump's psyche Biden equals Obama

And Obama's mockery of trump at the correspondents' dinner in 2011 is a big driver for the man.

There is a reason trump says Obama when he means Biden so often.

Biden's win just reopened the wound to trump's eggshell ego suffered that night in 2011. The wound has been eating at the man, and will continue to, for the rest of his life.

And now he will never get his revenge on either of them.

He's a poor, sad, dangerous, bitter, and horrible human that can't be allowed to remain center stage in our politics.

[ShazzieB]

21. Oh, good point!

I never thought about that, but it makes perfect sense!

Donald couldn't get direct revenge on Obama, so he settled for the secondary satisfaction of running for potus in 2016. When he found himself running against Biden, Obama's v.p., in 2020, it must have brought back his resentment of Obama bigly, and losing to Biden was an even greater blow to his wounded pride than losing to someone else would have have been.

In 2024, he thought going up against Biden again would finally be his chance to get the revenge he so craved. Having to run against Kamala instead must be a huge disappointment to him!

I guess that's how life goes when you're a petty, sociopathic narcissist who is driven only by greed, the need to win at any cost, and and a desperate thirst for revenge. What a pathetic loser he is.

[pat_k]

27. Yes. Extremely pathetic.

If he weren't such a a powerful and dangerous existential threat to any sense of unity and political will to enact policies that reflect our highest, rather than lowest impulses, he would be deserving of compassionate intervention.

As it is, as one Republican put it (very rough paraphrase) Trump and MAGA extremists are a cancer that must be eliminated from the political board.

[lastlib]

41. And it's why F*ckFace put so much into repealing Affordable Care Act.

To accomplish that meant erasing Obama's biggest accomplishment, thus diminishing the man he couldn't beat head-to-head. Again, it was a revenge crusade.

[pat_k]

57. +1 His vindictive narcissism and thirst for revenge are...

...as boundless as his delusions of grandeur.

With him, everything is personal. Those who stroke his ego are allies, those who slight him, even in minor ways are targets of his wrath.

And having a person with true power, gravitas, intelligence, and reach mock him is unbearable. Nothing short of utter destruction of those he names enemy can actually "settle" the score for him because he is just too emotionally immature and fragile.

[unblock]

5. Yeah, but then again, not really.

Sure, there's something to that argument.

But if Donnie wasn't depressed due to the suddenly being in a losing position to a girrrl, never mind a biracial minority, and possibly also having ptsd from the shooting, he'd simply say he clobbered Biden so bigly he forced him to give up before the election.

Under "normal" circumstances, he'd be crowing loudly about an unprecedented victory even before the election, and now he gets to clobber the backup candidate, democrats on the run, whatever.

So at a minimum, there's more going on than just annoyance at the change in plans. That said, they certainly did go all-in on a Biden-bashing story and are struggling to find a strategy that works against Harris.

It's a testament to one of the flaws of the politics of personal destruction. Had they been attacking administration policies, that would have easily carried over to a campaign against the vice president. Instead they hammered very personal stuff like hunter and Biden's age. Pretty useless now that Harris is the candidate.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

6. Poor broken down little man!

He can call Kamala Harris all sorts of derogatory names, but denied his "revenge" is a sweet thing to savor indeed.

For what she has said about him on the campaign trail so far has been the TRUTH.

SUCK ON THAT DONNIE! You're toast!

[ZonkerHarris]

7. Trump doesn't know how to run against a black person without calling them the N-word.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

53. Or a woman without using the bit*h word.

[Cheezoholic]

8. That is lame Chuck Todd or whoever BS. The Felon can't pivot because he's out of lottery tickets

He can't "pivot" because he doesn't have anything to "pivot" with. This kind of garbage puts the demise of Repukes solely on The Felon which IS NOT TRUE! Repukes MUST feel the pain of the infectious fuck their ratfuckery has for years brought to fruition. He didn't take over the Repuke party. He had no policies to begin with, he's always just danced to their tune only out in the open. This is the Repuke party on parade.
Fuck this stupid lame ass statement.

[ShazzieB]

24. I thought that statement was very insighyful.

But I agree that his not having anything to pivot with is also part of the picture, along with Harris' race and gender, and other things as well. None of these factors are mutually exclusive.

[Cheezoholic]

35. It's excusing republican behavior by laying all the blame at his feet. This is a propaganda tactic

I'm seeing more and more statements in MSM like this. It effectively allows the Repuke party to wash their hands of what he represents under a dry faucet. The infection on that side is deep, very deep. They silently can't wait to get him out of the way so they can get a smarter version of him in place like a Cotton or a Youngkin who will do exactly what they are doing now without the baggage. Statements like this remove the focus from what's driving this fascist parties attempt at burning this experiment in self governance to the ground. We cannot forget how many traitors, whether they have silenced themselves or not when it comes to The Felon, are crawling all over our Capitol. I could care less if someone makes an excuse for whatever the hell this is he's doing.

Plus, Chuck Todd. Can't disappear fast enough.

[chia]

77. I saw a truck recently that had a big banner over the tailgate reading "Trump 2024 Revenge Tour"

So yeah, I think that tracks. And revenge, more than avenge, because avenge can have an element of justice to it - a good person can avenge a wrong so it's a more positive word, while revenge carries more of an implicit desire to harm in retaliation.

[twodogsbarking]

9. It is very real revenge, no quotations needed.

[central scrutinizer]

10. Seems tenuous to me

SCOTUS has offered him a prize beyond value if he can win. A kingship and the ability to enrich himself beyond measure. I can’t believe he is going to piss that away. He can get his revenge by having Biden and Obama executed on the Mall.

[Irish_Dem]

29. It's a part of it but not all

I agree it is a bit off.

[AZ8theist]

11. What a joke. Trump is not "better" than ANYONE.

The dogshit in my backyard would make a better president than Dotard....

[ShazzieB]

25. Might smell better, too!

[FoxNewsSucks]

13. Also, she's better than him and he knows it.

[Renew Deal]

15. I believe it

One of his first statements after Biden dropped out signaled it. He seemed to be obsessed with Biden, which didn't make sense.

[hibbing]

17. Poor guy just can't get a break n/t

[Biophilic]

18. And that is just the kind of thinking that I want for the man in the White House to have. Not.

Why has anyone ever thought this man should be in charge of anything? I know that historians will be hashing this period over for decades because it is just filled with so many mysteries and "how could that be?" questions. It is truly a troubled time in our history and hopefully we will emerge stronger and better than before, but I still worry.

[jaxexpat]

19. Imagine that, a narcissist obsessing about something.

Also in the news, sky often blue.

[lees1975]

20. Biden would have beaten him anyway.

When it came down to it, and people walked into the voting booth, Trump wouldn't have come out on top. The media kept beating it's "he's too old" drum and manipulating the mostly Republican-funded polling data to the front of the pile. Trump has convinced just about every American he can possibly convince to vote for him, and that's not nearly as many Americans as he convinced the past two times. He was well behind Biden in financial support. And the one person who keeps making the case with good reasons for not voting for Trump is Trump. Every time he opens his mouth, he inserts his foot.

He's incapable of sustaining a campaign for as long as he wanted to make this. And none of those people threatening to withhold support from Biden if he didn't quit would have just let Trump take it because Biden didn't do what they wanted. Anyone who knew the stakes wouldn't have allowed that to happen.

Age, not the achievements or accomplishment, or agenda, was the biggest issue. The Democrats are still running on exactly what Biden would have run on. They just changed the demographics.

Whether he knows it or acknowledges it or believes it, Kamala Harris running for President was Biden's idea, and he's the one who brought it about.

And it looks like he's going to lose to Joe again.

[Bucky]

22. Good example of his terrible judgement

He wants to govern by insult and personal animus.
Just like all fascists do.

[robleb]

23. Let's not give much intellectual approval of Todd

... but yes, that makes a lot of sense.

[Pacifist Patriot]

26. I've been saying that since Biden dropped out.

His narcissism can't cope with the fact that he's been robbed of an "I told you so" moment.

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

31. He's spent the past 3.76 years plotting his revenge against Joe, doing research and suborning the Punditocracy

Now he has 85 days to gin all that up against Kamala and Tim. Don't think it'll work, but if he wins, I'm getting my passport. I have no desire to live here if he does.

[not fooled]

28. JFC what a loon

Only morons think he's suited for the presidency.

[TheKentuckian]

67. Even morons should know better though.

Chump has to be on the short list of least suited for the office alive.

I don't actually know anyone less fitting myself.

Nary a soul, even among Republicans and even extending to those I am aware of but do not know he probably is still near dead last.

Perhaps Stephen Miller is worse though more capable but it gets tough after that.

[onecaliberal]

32. And now a strong black woman is going to kick his ass in epically historic fashion.

[PCIntern]

33. What I don't understand is that when the Obama diatribe

at the Correspondents Dinner is mentioned, it is almost never reiterated that Trump was doing the Birth Certificate thing day and night, with a combination of bullshit and utter and complete bullshit. It isn’t that this materialized out of thin air.
President Obama was just getting his end in.

[doc03]

34. What if he gets beat by a black girl. I think he will have that long overdue nervous

breakdown.

[Warpy]

36. Even Chuckles knowsTFG's bunch were caught fllatfooted

by the change of candidate. They were all ready to go with the shopworn and overdone "Sleepy Joe" bullshit. They have no idea in tyhe world how to go after Harris. TFG's pejoratives just won't do.

It's been fun to watch them scramble bur it won't last long. They'll come up with some scurrilous lie and the major media will megaphone it all over the airwaves. We know it's coming. They'll reduce her to a body part and/or a sex act. I will most likely backfire.

[FHRRK]

37. Another reason he should be nowhere near the office of POTUS

Hell the inability to deal with a changing environment is something any mid level manager should be able to manage

[Bernardo de La Paz]

39. Revenge fixation for imagined injuries. Spanning decades. . . . nt

[LoisB]

40. Understandable but I still believe that in the end Joe would have beaten him.

[Bev54]

43. I have no doubt about one thing - Chuckie Todd has a lot of sources in the Trump camp.

He is one of them.

[BradBo]

44. When the history books are written Todd will be a part of the Trump Team. An enabler$

[NoMoreRepugs]

45. His narcissistic personality has been overwhelmed by the enthusiastic response to the Harris campaign

and he can't handle it - credit to Jeff Tiedrich for pointing this out.

[Zoomie1986]

63. Tiedrich is hardly unique or original with that assessment

Plenty of people right here on DU have been saying it for years now.

[Jarqui]

46. I recall with Hillary, Republicans were test marketing adds against her in FL and

at least one other battleground state in 2013.

They've been gunning for Joe ever since he won (in the wake of gunning for him before he won).

I'll bet they already had ads in the can for October and an October surprise planned.
I'm sure they had all kinds of stuff planned to whack Joe down the stretch.

They spent a lot of resources trying to tear him apart.
All that money and a lot of their effort - largely paid for by the MAGAts is down the political toilet.

[Johonny]

47. He's also crazy

And stupid.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

48. TFG is fixated on President Biden

TFG is a sick puppy

[BlueWavePsych]

49. Kick

[Skittles]

50. it's pretty obvious

that's why Trump cannot seem to "quit Biden"

[usonian]

51. Ain't enough sharpies to rewite all his Biden attacks.

Nor to reprogram both neurons in his brain.
Iceberg spotted! FULL RAMMING SPEED AHEAD

Joe beat him WITHOUT EVEN RUNNING.

Joe is the greatest.

[bullimiami]

52. If Todd said it it's probably wrong.

[Zoomie1986]

64. Even broken analog clocks are right twice a day.

So there's that.

[bullimiami]

66. So you are saying, with a precision of 1 sec, cChuck Todd is likely to be correct 1/43200ths of the time?

[Mike Nelson]

54. Not sure...

... about Chuck's theory. I differ... I think most people are just sicker of Trump than ever. Harris is fresh. I believe Trump wants to win the vote more than anything. I hear GWB wanted to win the vote very badly after the Supreme Court decision. Trump wants to win more than the Electoral College. or, maybe he really thinks he got more votes than Clinton or Biden? In any case, I think he's not effective because the available Trump voters are sick of him.

[cstanleytech]

56. Its also funny home much money Trump and the Republicans wasted to rally their base against Biden.

For the last four years, they worked on that to cash in on it in the 2024 elections and now it's all for nothing.

[czarjak]

60. Who's YOUR retribution, Donnie?

[TlalocW]

61. That's almost a, "Well, duh," thought

Of course, Trump was wanting revenge. It's one of the few things he lives for. Connecting it to his inability to run his campaign now is something people may not make the connection on. But wanting revenge? Oh, yeah.

[keithbvadu2]

62. Excellent topic! Especially liked "politics of personal destruction. ... Pretty useless now that Harris is the candid

Especially liked "politics of personal destruction. ... Pretty useless now that Harris is the candidate."

And then they whine about all the money spent on Biden.

[NewLarry]

65. I hope he runs against Joe until Election Day!

[Emile]

68. He can't stand being known as a BIG LOSER.

[GoneOffShore]

70. 81,282,916 votes to 74,223,369 votes The Biggest Loser

[LetMyPeopleVote]

69. TFG is really upset about not running against President Biden

[poozwah]

71. upchuck

this reasoning from todd is like a dose of zofran.

[OnDoutside]

72. It would be nice if Joe could follow up that he's retiring undefeated, and Trump never beat him !

[D23MIURG23]

73. This actually makes a lot of sense.

I'm glad Biden jumped out, even though I wanted him to stay in. The move has been disruptive in all the right ways.

[MadMike47]

74. You know what they say......

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[moniss]

75. That's a headline that's a rarity. nt

[czarjak]

76. Gee..

Imagine my poor feelings in 2000 & 2016 when we was robbed. Remember, rubes? Except, reasons, though?