Katy Tur opens her hour previewing the Tim Walz Union rally by saying "he still has questions about is military service"

[DFab420]

Unbelievable.

[PCIntern]

1. She's out of her pea-size mind

Somebody needs to school this “lady”.

[CrispyQ]

32. "You're just jealous cuz she's so beautiful."

That was a response on DU to someone complaining about her.

[senseandsensibility]

38. I remember that

Unbelievable. It was funny, but very telling at the same time.

[usaf-vet]

44. See Adam Kinzinger's defence of Walz's retirement. Katy T. if you can't understand this you are in the wrong job.

LET Adam Kinzinger SCHOOL HER!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19322983

This USAF veteran is PISSED at this Swiftboating attempt against Walz.

[Trueblue1968]

63. I cant stand her

[FSogol]

2. You aren't required to watch crappy shows.

[SCantiGOP]

57. But it also won't damage you

🤔

[senseandsensibility]

3. Horrible

She is so biased for cheato that she interrupts anyone who is calling him out now (yesterday it was Micheal Steele).

[canuckledragger]

60. I saw that.

Steele tried to answer her 4-5 times in row, with Tur butting in and talking over him every time, pushing her propaganda.

[Rebl2]

78. She asked

Steele a question and kept interrupting when he was trying to answer. Finally he got to answer and she just made a goofy looking smile as he finished his answer, like I really don’t care about what you are saying.

[hlthe2b]

4. Yes... Heard it, wanted to write a nastygram to PTB, but decided it would go nowhere...

So, I reluctantly turned on CNN. Better for the moment, at least. I DETEST Tur. She is so damned in the can for Trump (and even if she were not--so damned snide, rude, snarky, and nasty) that MSNBC should dump her butt on Trump's campaign plane and let her soak up all the Jeffrey Epstein "VIBES."

[Conjuay]

84. - and odors.

[NoMoreRepugs]

5. KatyTurd needs to relocate to Fox.

[unblock]

6. Hey turd! I have a question about Donnie's military service!

How much did the doctor charge to help captain bone spurs dodge the draft?

Follow-up question, is it stolen valor if we call him captain bone spurs?

[notinkansas]

13. Don't think he ever rose to the rank of Captain.

Just Cadet Bone Spurs.

[unblock]

17. Follow up follow up question, which service did he avoid?

Oh, right. All of them....

[notinkansas]

26. Yup.

That sort of thing is for 'suckers and losers' don'tcha know.

[Drummer1]

50. That's "Cadet Bone Spurs" if you please.

[Kaleva]

7. I wonder why people here watch her.

Nothing more productive to do?

[DFab420]

8. Yee I'm stuck at home recovering from medical stuff and pretty much laid out for the next month or so.

[LiberalFighter]

19. I'm currently watching Perry Mason shows that I've recorded.

Got nearly a month I have been seeing doctors and getting different tests.

[DFab420]

21. Best wishes for a recovery and good health with whatever challenges you are facing

[Walleye]

51. I like those old Perry Masons, and some of the half hour 50s westerns

[punguin54]

64. Gunsmoke

My favorite. 20 years it was on. I remember watching it when I was a kid. Now my wife and I check out the DVDs for free!

[Walleye]

79. Yes. I loved Kitty Russell too. An independent woman.

[phylny]

20. That's what HGTV is for.

If you can stand white and gray kitchens 🤣

I hope you heal well!

[DFab420]

92. Thank you!

[jrthin]

27. You could always watch paint dry. I think it would be far more interesting.

Hope you get better fast.

[DFab420]

91. Thank you!

[Ferrets are Cool]

37. There are dozens of Liberal Youtubers with hundreds of hours of content.

[Kaleva]

43. Well, you have a pretty good reason

It's kind of a time killer for you as you recover!

Personally, I'd watch something else.

[hlthe2b]

11. She had been on vacation, so it is likely many (like myself) flipped channels

without realizing she was back. I answer a very long string of work emails this time in the afternoon. So, if working from home, that is my "white noise." Is that okay? (No one here should have to justify their viewing or listening habits to you, Kaleva. That is just insulting).

[senseandsensibility]

16. I have been tempted to answer this poster in the same vein

Like you, I have my reasons for watching/not watching. But as you say, it's not their business (call out to Walz there) so I don't. I try to point out sarcastically that their advice is not needed or asked for. Anyway, you don't owe an explanation to anyone on this board for how you spend your time and most of us know that.

[Kaleva]

47. If a person posts something here, they should expect responses

And not all of them will be positive. Sometimes one can get serious blowback

This is a discussion board and not an echo chamber.

As Skinner has said in the past, it helps to have a thick skin

[senseandsensibility]

48. More advice.

Thanks.

[hlthe2b]

53. "Mansplaining"

Some feel totally self-entitled to make demands, explain, and critique the rest of us--or so they believe. Many used to come to the feminist forums to do so (that poster, included).

[senseandsensibility]

54. Yup

This poster even told someone above that they guessed they had a good reason for watching what they were watching. Gee thanks for the approval that no one was asking for. As Walz says, no one is asking for this. It's just weird.

[Kaleva]

59. Here are the posts I made in the History of Feminism group

I searched from 2011, as far back as advanced search allows, to today's date.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/125549798

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=49804

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=49805

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=43302

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1255&pid=58945

[hlthe2b]

61. LOL

Sure...

[Kaleva]

73. You are a star member. Do an advanced search

[hlthe2b]

74. MORE DEMANDS from you! Case in point....

[Kaleva]

42. Then people shouldn't whine about what they choose to do

This is like telling people to quit stabbing themselves in the face with a screwdriver when they complain about the pain it causes.

[hlthe2b]

45. Wow. Would you listen to yourself?: "Then people shouldn't whine about what they choose to do"

Who the hell are YOU to tell other DUers what to watch, what to listen to, how to feel about it, and whether or not they CAN complain? Good gawd, Kaleva. In the words of Tim Walz: "MIND YOUR OWN (DAMNED) BUSINESS!"

[Kaleva]

62. This is a discussion board and I'm free to express my opinions

As long as I stay within the rules .

A whole lot of attempts at censorship going on. People don't like what is said on cable news by certain pundits and some members here want other members to stay quiet or only post what they approve of.

People don't need to watch cable news if what is said upsets them. People are free to not read what I post or they can also place me on ignore. I don't really care.

You are allowing me to control your emotions even though that is not my intent when it should be you in control.

[hlthe2b]

65. Tim Walz said it best. You are free to have your own opinions but you don't get to inflict them on others...

There are boundaries. Constantly following posters to harass them with the same refrain in every damned thread falls way outside those boundaries.

[Kaleva]

67. Who am I following from thread to thread?

[Torchlight]

83. And shouldn't whine about what others choose to do as well.

A traditional example of criticizing six of one while defending a half dozen of the other.

Let the goalposts move...

[Kaleva]

87. I asked a question

Here it is:

"I wonder why people here watch her.

Nothing more productive to do?"

[Cirsium]

80. not about personal choice

Politics is not about personal choice, as though it were shopping. One person changing the channel, one person checking their voter registration, one person suing a corporation, one person figuring out how to get healthcare - those are not solutions to the social problems involved, and politics is about social issues. People are objecting to Tur's political views ad the potential influence she has. Turning her show off doesn't change that. Critiquing her might have an effect.

Politics is not a matter of avoiding or ignoring the things we don't like. To the contrary, polities means facing and dealing with social problems. Mass media propaganda controlled by a handful of corporations, is a social problem, not a personal choice issue.

[senseandsensibility]

81. Very good point

What kind of politics would we have if we ignored everything we were powerless to change? I would argue none at all. It's similar to some posters yelling that cheato is not required BY LAW to answer certain questions, so the questions shouldn't be asked. Sounds to me like a way to stifle dissent.

[hlthe2b]

96. Yes. Absolutely the point (but if you look at the call-out posts, they just want to imply

those watching on tv have nothing better to do--thereby interjecting their disdain. It isn't subtle.

[awesomerwb1]

9. Why do you watch her? Serious general question.

[Kaleva]

40. I also would like to know the answer to that

[hlthe2b]

55. Tim Walz has an answer for you:

?v=1723038117

[Kaleva]

66. No, I will not

You are not going to win this.

You are already letting me control your emotions even though I'm not striving to do so

[hlthe2b]

69. I'm betting virutally NO ONE on this thread believes that. LOLOL

Hon, just take your little mansplaining exercise and run along now. I wouldn't want your pride to be hurt by my telling you to "MIND YOUR OWN DAMNED BUSINESS" but apparently they have.

[Kaleva]

72. I can do this for days

Alert on my posts that you truly think are out of bounds. You have the right to do so.

[hlthe2b]

76. Knock yourself out. What you do is your thing and your projection is just that.

Demanding that others do your bidding is the line. Knock yourself out. As they say in the South, "bless your heart!"

[Kaleva]

86. Yes, I'll keep doing what I'm doing.

Like I said, you can alert on any of my posts that you think are out of line.

If you did, the juries must have voted that my posts were fine.

If you haven't, then you think my posts are ok too

[hlthe2b]

88. And the rest of us will simply be reminded of your doppelganger, "Mrs. Kravitz"...

since you can't manage to follow the example of Tim Walz and "mind your own damned business."


Chronicles of a Nosy Neighbor

Enjoy!

[Kaleva]

93. Did you alert?

If you didn't, you then have no problems with any of my posts.

[hlthe2b]

94. Gee, you mad, "bro?" You sure are fixated on someone alerting, even though

you believe your posts are just fine. Nope, I don't want to do that anymore than my neighbor's cat, who is engaged in her usual "torment the little mouse" routine at this moment. She doesn't want to hurt the bossy little mouse. Just make it really mad, I guess.

I suspect that if the mouse just minded his own business and stopped trying to boss around everyone in the neighborhood, so too would the cat, (Think there is an allegory in that, Kaleva? ) .

[Kaleva]

95. So you are fine with my posts

In your view, they meet community standards.

And I'll just keep doing what I'm doing .

[Kid Berwyn]

10. Did Katy Tur know what a Command Sergeant Major is a month ago?

She might have, but going from the words that spill out her gob, I doubt it very much.

[Funtatlaguy]

12. I'd love to see the 4-11pm MSNBC hosts asked

What happened to Tur.
She was nothing like this when she was a reporter and not an anchor and back when she was dating Keith Olbermann.
Maybe it was marrying that CBS Morning Show anchor that tur-Ned her.

[hlthe2b]

14. Is he (her CBS-employed husband) like that? I haven't seen him that much but he never struck me

as politically biased. (but again, I've not watched him much at all except to think, "damn, poor guy, married to Tur!"

[Funtatlaguy]

30. I've never watched that show.

[moonscape]

25. Yeah, a reporter covering the Menace's

rallies in 2016, being called out by him, witnessing the violence he promoted, being harassed, in a cage, etc.

Why is it I remember that and she doesn’t?

[kristndem]

15. I turned it off

Right away. Went to youtube to wait on Walz to start speaking.

[PedroXimenez]

18. next: Harris still has questions about what race she is n/t

p.s. has she ever retracted her reporting that Trump was humbled by getting shot? Because she reported it, and it obviously is not true, so that calls for a retraction.

[durablend]

82. "What else is Walz hiding?"

Wait for it.....

[ecstatic]

22. I do not watch her show on purpose

During the 3pm hour, you can check out CNN (usually safe in that specific time period) or the MeidasTouch channel on Youtube. lol.

[Deek1935]

23. Oh piss on her!

[ZonkerHarris]

24. the bad choices you have made like watching Katy Tur. That's on you.

[airmid]

28. She's terrible...was her mentor Andrea Mitchell?

[H2O Man]

29. My dog barked

this morning. The cat meowed. The hen clucked.

[JustAnotherGen]

31. She's worthless

And all of the 'trauma' over her dad? She has a tendency to take out on Democratic / Liberal Men. She's a real piece of work.

[yorkster]

33. Hey Katy - Tim Walz is live on C-Span. Ciao.!

[Botany]

34. He was voted or made Nebraska's National Guardsman of the year in 1989 and when he was a Jr. in

High School his dad got cancer and he took over working at his dad’s job to help the
family out. The man is solid. Katy

[Ferrets are Cool]

35. Un-fucking-believable.

[uponit7771]

36. +1, ... the only reason TFG is anywhere near Harris is the US M$M wants money. That's how much they hate the rest of ...

... the country, they want money so make a race between a rapist and women close.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

39. Katy Tur needs to fired

Link to tweet

[Mysterian]

41. Only a piece of shit like Tur would comment like that

There are no questions about his military service, you filthy, lying, incompetent asshole.

[Codifer]

46. I usually

do not watch news in the AM (except for Ali Velshi on the weekends.

As soon as I heard her say this crud today I switched to reruns of M#A#S#H even though I binged all eleven seasons last month during the "troubles".

I would imagine that she is told what to say...... and she has neither spine nor standing to disagree.

[ellemb]

49. I used to watch her and Chris Jansing and Andrea Mitchell.

No more. Can't stomach them.

[Drummer1]

52. Kur and Dana "Wood Post" Bash are in a race to the telejournalist bottom

[pamdb]

56. Katy turd

If trump wins, she wants to be his press secretary.

[Warpy]

58. Sh'e's a nasty piece of work. I don't know what persuaded MSNBC to hire her

That snide "there are questions" says all I need to know about who she is and what calibre of reporter she is.

Yeah, Katy, I've got a lot of questions about you that are completely unanswered. All the questions about Walz's service, which was long and honorable, have already been answered.

(Insert dirty filthy nasty pejorative here because you know I said it)!

[VGuerra276]

68. Lodge a complaint

I doubt it will help but here's the email to lodge a complaint. Maybe they'll listen if enough of us show our discontent.

[e-mail]

[Red Raider 85]

70. screw the lame ms media. bastards.

[miyazaki]

71. Turpentine's toxic fumes get worse by the day.

Sad pathetic troll that she is.

[nwduke]

75. I rarely watch CNN anymore

but especially when Donald J Tur comes on!🤮

[Blue Owl]

77. Swiftboat Skanks for Putin

[Jarqui]

85. I'm still steamed but I have something to add

I concur with everything Adam Kinzinger said and felt.

I can back up much of what I'm going to saw with links but I have literally hundreds now. I'm still researching
I'm going to focus on two aspects (I use bold to help distinguish aspects of one vs the other).

In 2002, Walz' troubled hearing was assessed to see if he could continue serving. Eventually, they went along with allowing him to continue to serve but there had to be some reservations because he had hearing problems that left his service in doubt from all the years of heavy artillery. That is a documented fact as are most of what is below

In 2003-4, Walz unit served in Operation Enduring Freedom in Italy, in part securing air bases armed with nuclear weapons from terrorists. (And they say he didn't carry weapons of war to do that so sling shots and pocket knives ...? unbelievable ..) Walz also trained soldiers heading to combat in the use of weapons including heavy artillery (a specialty of his) .

During his service in Italy 2003-4, Walz became close with some of the others in his unit. He spoke of his desire to serve in Congress where he believed he could do more good.

Fox News reported Nat'l Guard said they got Walz request for retirement "5-7 months" before he retired which would be between Oct 16th-Dec 16th, 2004. (he retired May 16, 2005)
@votevets reported they confirmed Walz filed for retirement months before he retired.

In Jan, 2005, Walz attended the Wellstone Camp to learn about running for Congress.

In Feb, 2005, Walz filed paperwork to run for Congress

In Mar 2005, the Nat'l Guard advised they might be calling units up but they were uncertain about which units.

In Apr 2005, Walz talked with his superior who wanted him to stick around. Walz told him they hadn't settled on whether he would be a candidate for congress yet. If he wasn't, he'd try to stick around. His superior doesn't tell it quite that way.

That's when they gave Walz the promotion 4/1/2005. That opened the door for them to whine that he had agreed to longer service when he'd been thinking about running for Congress for months if not longer and applied to run in Feb 2005 which he told them. That is probably why Walz went around that guy - up the chain of command.

Walz was looking into it and found out he could not run for Congress as a partisan and remain in the military. He also had concerns about the Hatch Act - similar reasoning. Further, he needed a million dollars for his campaign and his school teacher bank account couldn't provide that. He had to raise it. If he deployed, he'd have to wait 2 more years and wouldn't begin service in Congress until Jan 2009 ... four years from that time. So that had to factor into his thinking.

Walz had his hearing checked. It was further damaged beyond 2002 from his service. Shortly after his retirement, Walz underwent stapedectomy surgery, a procedure in which damaged bones inside the ear are replaced with a prosthesis. His hearing was damaged after 24 years of heavy artillery and noise from his occupation. You cannot fly for 2-3 months after the surgery. It is not a 100% cure - it helps. His reenlistment eligibility was RE-3 - he couldn't come back without a waiver. So the swiftboaters wanted him to blow out the rest of his hearing by deploying him to combat when combat is not safe with compromised hearing?? That is where I really lost it. He never got his hearing all back. He still complains of tinnitus. I have no problem with the guy saying "You got to damage my ears for 24 years. Sorry, you can't have what is left of my damaged hearing - damaged while doing my duty"

So they swiftboat a guy injured in the line of duty who should never have returned to what he'd done with artillery or combat. For me, it doesn't get much lower than that.

Boston Herald spoke with the Nat'l Guard
https://www.bostonherald.com/2024/08/12/minnesota-national-guard-officials-weigh-in-on-walz-service/

Any assertions that Walz’s unit was warned of a possible deployment ahead of the July 14 (2005 - 2 months after his retirement) mobilization order is questionable, according to DoD officials, as they amount to little more than repeated and misplaced barracks rumors.

There was nothing concrete about his unit being deployed when he retired according to the Nat'l Guard. First concrete news of that came 2 months later (7-9 months after FOX News said he filed papers to retire)

In my opinion, the people that smeared him are despicable.

[kimbutgar]

89. She should send her resume over to Fox

[keithbvadu2]

90. By his own standards, Vantz abandoned his fellow Marines.

By his own standards, Vantz abandoned his fellow Marines.

JD, your country and comrades-in-arms could have continued to use your skills.

Yet, you just abandoned them to depart the military service.

Our country was still in Iraq in 2007. Not just maybe going there.
Actual fighting going on.

Maybe your tour was too arduous?