You know what I'm sensing?

[Aviation Pro]

That the white labor force, which has for a generation voted against their best interests, is waking up out of its slumber and is poised to protect itself on Nov. 5th. Projectile Vomit 2025 gave them a clear blueprint.

Let's fucking go, we're not going back.

[EYESORE 9001]

1. I've been a voice in the wilderness

and while I’ve made some inroads, there’s a lot of work to be done.

[Roy Rolling]

36. Seriously?

“The white labor force”? “For a generation has voted against their interests”?

There’s an old Yiddish saying, “for example is not proof”.

Take a step back, those are broad generalizations coupled with vague words. What exactly is the “white labor force”? Is that the opposite of “black jobs”?

[Aviation Pro]

40. Read Projectile Vomit 2025

All 922 pages.

[magicarpet]

2. Good Morning America,...

Redeem your Fascist credentials,...

And wake up to American Democracy,... then actively encourage and promote it.

Your days will be more meaningful and much brighter, rather than constantly steeping in negativity and a state of - woe is me.

[Wounded Bear]

3. Always threw me, how they loved Reagan even though he was a union buster...

[MarineCombatEngineer]

5. Because Reagan was a silver tongued devil,

he could make people feel good while stealing their wallets.
Whatever else Reagan was, he was a gifted orator.

[Wounded Bear]

6. Reagan was a B grade actor that could deliver a line in the role of his life...nt

[CrispyQ]

11. "There you go again."

I had alot of dem family & acquaintances who voted for him.

[twodogsbarking]

16. I worked with a young lady who was liberal but said she had liked Reagan. I gave her a list of

the shit that Reagan did to the country. She said she never knew.

[not fooled]

52. Yep. Ignorance

the pukes' best weapon.

[Captain Zero]

54. He had a nice family & a ranch

That's all some voters require..

[twodogsbarking]

12. You nailed it.

Ronald: Just say no to rugs.

Nanccy: No Ronnie, it's drugs.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

14. .....

[hibbing]

17. Also look where he announced his candidacy n/t

[Zoomie1986]

8. They liked Reagan because they knew one of their own

As in, he was the same kind of bigot and a*hole as all of his voters.

That's why they liked him.

Same thing with TSF, except Ronnie the Reactionary smiled more.

[twodogsbarking]

15. Ronald and Donald. May not be suitable for, well, anything.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ronald-and-donald-1480096293

[slightlv]

20. There were other tbings.

While young and still new to politics, and idealistic, I voted for Reagan once. You know why? It was the promises to the military at the time. I had just gone in and the pay was trash. I had no idea one could promise something absolutely and then renege on it so completely. Yeah, I learned my lesson that time... never trust anything coming out of a repugs mouth, including my husbands. The end of innocence. Voted Democratic ever since. But there were a bunch of us at the time brand new to this. We had been the ones just allowed finally to vote at 18. I've regretted my choice ever since. And it was my choice... from a purely selfish viewpoint. That election taught me a lot... like voting in your own self interests is gonna hit you at some point. You have to think of the best for all.

[BattleRow]

45. Chickens do come home to

roost..and they will feather their nests by plucking yours clean.

[poozwah]

24. why?

they have loved republicans since the 1968 and nixon’s southern strategy campaign for one reason….racism. it was the driving force in the south in that election and has now become the driving force in rural america. racism is our original and enduring sin. until we stop committing this sin, we are bound to go straight to hell.

[uponit7771]

48. Cause the axe handle of RayGun was made out of the trees he was cutting down.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

4. white labor force? What do you mean here

[Wounded Bear]

7. They're the one doing the non-black jobs...

[Zambero]

19. Once ID'd as being "Reagan Democrats"

The decades-long rise of income inequality would not have been possible without the unwittingly assistance provided. Obama brought a number of them back into the fold, although an unfortunate relapse occurred in 2016 ("her emails etc.). This time around, it seems that a degree of enlightenment is underway. Hope abounds!

[Celerity]

32. Labor Force Participation Rate - White (LNS11300003)

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS11300003



Units: Percent, Seasonally Adjusted

Frequency: Monthly

The series comes from the 'Current Population Survey (Household Survey)'

The source code is: LNS11300003

Suggested Citation:

U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, Labor Force Participation Rate - White [LNS11300003], retrieved from FRED, Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis; https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS11300003, August 14, 2024.

[D23MIURG23]

38. One of the ways Trump won in 2016 was by pulling an upset in Macomb County MI.

This put him on the path to winning Michigan. Who lives in Macomb? It's the home of Warren, and other majority white Detroit suburbs that are working class to middle class generally.

This is who I believe the OP meant by "white labor force".

Here are some census details if you are curious:
https://data.census.gov/profile/Macomb_County,_Michigan?g=050XX00US26099

Trump does well with these people, unfortunately. I'm hopeful, though, because Shawn Fain has done a very good job for his UAW workers, and he is vigorously making the case to auto workers that Trump is a "scab". That kind of advocacy is crucial to our chances in WI, MI, and PA especially.

[llmart]

41. Let's not forget that there is a whole lot of moblike politicians in Macomb County.

I live here. There is a rabid trumper in my neighborhood and he is very "involved" in the GOP political scene though he isn't a politician. He has no morals, ethics or consideration for others. There isn't any law or rule he thinks applies to him. He once said to one of my neighbors whom I'm very good friends with that "they can't touch me because I know people higher up at the county level". The Shelby Twp. clerk is one of the fake electors. Then there's Lucido who several women have claimed harasses them at work. Lisa McClain is my rep and she had zero experience, but the powers that be ensconced her lily white, Catholic ass in the House if she would do their bidding. Her very first vote right after being sworn in was to not certify the election of President Biden.

I could go on but I don't trust the people who run Macomb County and that includes Mark Hackel who is supposedly a Democrat but when recently questioned who he'll support in the election he waffled. My memory is fuzzy on this, but wasn't his father in trouble for something when he was the county sheriff?

[D23MIURG23]

44. I wouldn't know - I'm from the area, but live in Southfield.

I don't know a ton about Macomb county politics, but I agree, what I hear isn't all that reassuring.

I'm hoping that the fact we have firm control of the state government will help us foil any of the stupid nonsense that trumpers try to pull if/when they lose.

[llmart]

47. If you're interested, look up Stanley Grot who has been charged with 8 felonies.

He is currently running for re-election. His wife is on the Macomb County Board of Commissioners.

[Gimble]

9. Something you said

I don't mean to sidetrack the conversation, but I just want to share a goofy thought. At the end of your post you said "let's fucking go!". I think I've seen a few other posters use that term recently on DU, so maybe it's a
"thing". But it makes me think of the last line of the last episode of season 2 of Shorsey where Jared Kelso ends the scene yelling "Let's set the fucking tone!" That dude is hilarious. I think I'm going to start using that phrase.

[malaise]

10. Send them this

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=19331215

[Hugin]

13. Here's hoping.

For as long as I can remember Americans have been voting for the interests of the already wealthy and against their own interests.

[Sky Jewels]

18. A lot of white Teamsters are GQPers

("Not all" ... I know...). I hope the anti-Dem ones pull their heads out of their behinds.

[Zambero]

21. Radio frequencies super-glued to Savage, Levin et al

Bullshit repeated transforms itself into "gospel". The best hope is with the fence-sitters that might retain a degree of objectivity.

[Sky Jewels]

22. Yes, coast-to-coast hate radio is the tool

that's brainwashing these truckers.

[BattleRow]

46. Perhaps those sitting on fences

arent quite as comfortable as they used to be,feeling the tip of the spear,so to speak.

[BittyJenkins]

23. Thank Joe for the change

He opened a lot of eyes to the power of unions. He helped build them instead of destroy them.

[Cowpunk]

25. It was cultural issues that moved the white working class rightward.

Sorry, but I don't think much has changed in that area, and it seems to supersede economics for many. I would like to think that they are realizing how extreme the right has become on issues like abortion, but I'm not getting my hopes up. AM hate radio still dominates out here in flyover country.

[TBF]

30. Some of it is the churches - still a factor in small towns and suburban areas

Also think about media sources that are free like FOX - they are still watching it and it's played everywhere (waiting rooms etc). They're watching and listening to the free channels owned by billionaires. Combatting that is difficult, but the difference this time might be the apps! Even in the small towns they're on their phones and watching Tik tok. That's the brilliance of Kamala's marketing team - they are going where the people are. Those of us over 50 are not quite as tuned in to the apps (personally I look at Insta and Facebook - will watch Tik tok if someone sends me a video they liked). Those under 50 (and certainly under 40) are on their phones all the time. The next challenge - getting them to the voting booths!

[calimary]

51. If you're in a waiting room where Pox Noise is on the TV,

may be just change the channel yourself?

Hey, YOU’RE paying them for services, so doesn’t that make you their boss? (Even if only while you’re there?)

[TBF]

53. Yes - I love to do that when it's at ground level

sometimes they are mounted up on the wall. I've also turned them off it there's no one there so I can read

[OLDMDDEM]

26. I feel a blue wave that will humiliate Trump and the rethugs beyond anything we have seen in the past.

[underpants]

27. Joe's long history with labor has given light to an almost invisible element

Corporate media all but ignores organized labor for obvious reasons.

I don’t know the numbers but it sure seems like there are a lot more people joining including whole industries.

I think Covid changed a lot like working at home even a day if the week - Why the F haven’t we been doing this for YEARS?!?? People like being on their own turf and the office/workplace is the boss’s turf. That’s why they want you IN there.

Plus Trump strikes a lot of people as the ultimate dick boss.

[Kid Berwyn]

28. Yep. What it took was Tim Walz.

He speaks our language.

[tulipsandroses]

29. Eh. I'll believe it when I see it. I do think we will win. I do think we will attract new voters, some of the folks

that voted for Obama, then voted for trump will come back. Youth voters are energized. Women have not forgotten that their rights have been taken away. Bigots will not reject trump. They would rather cut off their nose to spite their face. The trump base is fueled by hate. They are not going to change. They figure he will hurt the people they hate and that is good enough for them. 74.2 million people voted for trump in 2020. They saw what he was about for 4 years and still voted for him. We may peel off a few thousand - but he will still get about the same number of votes.
Our job is to energize our base. That to me is more realistic than thinking trump supporters will vote for democrats.
Folks who have never voted and folks who voted previously but do not think this economy is working for them, is where the work needs to be done.

[TBF]

33. Absolutely - that is why Kamala was very careful with the VP selection. nt

[kozar]

31. 40 years ago,

I was 14, almost 15,, typical teen,I wanted out,from Mom and Dad.
I took a job in a grocery store. 1977. I was an athlete, I played my sports, I was blessed with the best boss ever. And I was making 13.75 an hour.
In 1977! I asked Bill, the boss, about my check,,
He told me, we are union, you have to pay your dues.
30 years later, I'm managing group homes for challenged adults,
650 a week,, salary!! I was on call,24/7 my check never changed.
Now I live on SS
Sometimes, I sit here, and think,
Wish it was 1977 again, and I could make money,
Just ,putting cans, on a shelf..

Koz

[mopinko]

34. raygun dems coming home.

[BaronChocula]

35. T'would be nice if they stayed home this time

instead of waiting to get their panties in a bunch over drag queens or some other shit that has no impact on their life in some future election. Not holding my breath.

[Skittles]

37. if people wake up that they have been voting against their own self-interests

the Greedy Old Pig party of today is OVER

[CTyankee]

39. From your mouth to God's ear, my friend.

[shanti]

42. When your Safeway bagger

is talking about Project 2025, it is reaching the intended people.

[orangecrush]

43. About fucking time.

Some of them swallowed Reagan's bullshit.

Then the factories started closing.

[Marcuse]

49. The Southern Strategy

[Bluethroughu]

50. Right on!