So Should The DNC Spend Money in Texas And Florida

[gab13by13]

Colin Alred can beat Ted Cruz with some help.

With David Plouffe on board now, I feel good about decisions like this.

Oh and Ohio may be up for grabs if we just get the votes out in the big cities.

[obamanut2012]

1. Florida for sure for down ballot Dems and the two Amendments

[OLDMDDEM]

2. Quick answer. YES!

[getagrip_already]

3. Thats up to internals.....

Not what we can see, unless they let it out.

Internal polling measures completely different parameters than the horserace stuff the media puts out.

Im fine letting the pros decide.

[surfered]

4. Please, please support Colin Allred over Ted Cruz

[fierywoman]

5. YES.

[Bad Thoughts]

6. No other way to turn Texas blue!

We know it can happen, but the party needs to make a concerted effort to spread the message, not retreat to battlegrounds.

[Conjuay]

7. "Please sir, more?

Florida quoting 'Oliver'.

[List left]

8. YES

The 50 state strategy helped Obama win and Abandoning it helped Hillary lose.

[Funtatlaguy]

9. Yes, if it helps us win those Senate seats.

[GoreWon2000]

10. I think the Texas/Florida repug abortion bans are really starting to hurt the repugs

Another woman in Texas has now come forward and filed a lawsuit against a Texas hospital for failing to treat her ectopic pregnancy in time which resulted in her losing one of her fallopian tubes which now means it'll be much harder for her to have future children. The hospital emergency room gave the woman a pamphlet and told her to "let nature take it's course", never mind that ectopic pregnancies are always fatal. 3 days later the woman went back to the emergency room with a now ruptured fallopian tube. She nearly died because the hospital failed to provide the emergency care she needed and that's required by federal law. The maga SCOTUS radicals refused to rule on another case of emergency room denial of care in Idaho this term in an effort to protect the orange turd and his extremists after watching them get clobbered in the 2022 elections because of their overturning Roe vs Wade. The publicity of these cases of women with very wanted pregnancies having their future health and lives dangerously affected by the overturning of Roe is getting more and more publicity and I think it's really starting to hurt the repugs in these states. Florida has an equally bad repug abortion ban as well and has an amendment on the ballot this year to restore women's reproductive rights. It might well be worth it for the DNC to spend money in both of these states given that there are also extremist maga repug U.S. senators also up for re-election that might also now be in play.

[yardwork]

11. Definitely in Ohio. We need Sherrod Brown to win.

It's possible Harris Walz could win OH, but it's a long shot. However, the Senate seat is essential.

[AmBlue]

12. oh yes!!

Either one, or BOTH, would be the delicious cherry on top of what I'm sensing may be a landslide for Democrats.

Even though Florida now has a million more Republican registered voters than Democrats, I think that with some party help we might actually sway a big chunk of them to vote BLUE. Just a guess, but there is definitely momentum with the Dems now.

[ColinC]

13. They should spend money in every state.

Some more than others though

[LakeArenal]

14. Why wouldn't we? The new ticket has lots of money.

Lots of those donations are from those states.

Haven’t we learned when DNC ignored Wisconsin in 2016?

Now the new ground game in WI and other swing states are paying dividends.

[Gore1FL]

15. All 50 and DC. NT

[MagickMuffin]

16. It appears when you ignore your base

There isn’t much enthusiasm for people to vote. The DNC has ignored Texas for decades. Perhaps if the DNC decided all voters matter then perhaps they would show up at the polls.

Being ignored is an effective way for voters not to care. Texas IS NOT A RED STATE. It is a non voting state and that’s probably because we don’t feel like we matter.

Obama and Clinton campaigned here in the 2008 cycle. I went to the Obama event and missed seeing Hillary. I can’t remember if anyone else has held a rally here. It’s mostly fundraising when they come here.


I think Harris/Walz should campaign here. They would draw huge biggly crowds.

[yellowdogintexas]

37. they certainly would, MagickMuffin!!!

You are so correct about Democrats feeling for years like they didn't matter.

We had the votes in Tarrant County to defeat Cruz in 2018. In a state with as many registered voters as Texas, 300,000 votes should have been easy to pick up. If another 5% of registered voters statewide had gone to the polls, it would have been a landslide and Beto O'Rourke would be running for his second term.

We can beat Cruz this time. Having some big names campaign here is not going to hurt a thing. Obama filled the AA center in 2004. Even if Walz was the only one who came, and barnstormed all our big cities it would give Colin the edge. I won't hold my breath on Harris/Walz carrying Texas but I think Colin can do it.

[MagickMuffin]

39. Yep, exactly, if only ALL States Mattered

We could all be considered swing states.

I saw Obama at the FW Convention center. It was packed.

True story don’t know if you knew about it. After Obama gave the keynote speech at the DNC, a group of people started the Tarrant County for Obama. They apparently were having meetings. Hubby worked on their website. We went to several of there meetings.


When voters feel forgotten they certainly don’t feel the need to be supportive.

yellowfogintexas!

[ProudMNDemocrat]

17. By all means, YES...

Texas, Florida, and Ohio are within reach. We have good Dems running there for the US Senate.

They could use the coattails effect.

[ananda]

18. Yes, please get behind Allred ...

He needs more than puny donations
from people like me.

[JT45242]

19. YES. Project 2025 is that unpopular...we need to curb stomp the Republican party and destroy it like the Whigs

This is the election that Lindsay Graham is proven correct. Following TFG will destroy them, and they will deserve it.

EVERY STATE that has a substantial population should be targeted. Ohio, Florida, Texas included. Even if we do not get the electoral college votes, it will help to protect and flip the congress.

The population is not 50-50 as MSM would have you believe.

There are about 20-25% hardcore republicans. Maybe 30-40% DEmocrtas. The rest are independents. Make every independent realize how radical, reactionary , and just plain weird that Project 2025 and its supporters are.

Push what Project 2025 says about abortion, birth control, IVF, and no fault divorce to push independent women
Push what Project 2025 says about the Dpeartment of Education to collge kids and their parents (no more government backed student loans).
Push what P2025 says about gutting social security, medicare, and medicaid to seniors (looking at you Florida)
Push what P2025 says about mass deportations and arresting anyone with an undocumented person in your household to immigrants, first generation, etc.
Push what P2025 says about privatizing NOAA to people who live in hurricane and tornado areas and let them know thta they will have to pay for weather alerts.

We could go on, but the Republicans literally wrote all their bad, unpopular policy positions down and put them in one place on the internet. Use it.

For the first time, the R party cannot hide behind vague generalities. There are details in the document.

Burn it to the ground so that in 100 years, grade school kids will ask who were the Republicans? like Gen X said, who were the Whigs?

[rogerballard]

20. Yes to Florida / Obama 2008 Electoral Map

Yes to Florida! Such a lovely map!

[Chipper Chat]

29. Notice Indiana is blue.

11 EVs (more than Wisconsin).
Send Walz there to campaign. Hoosiers do not like JD Vance.

[spooky3]

35. Obama was great, but McCain/Rs were saddled with the housing bubble and recession then

(and with the self-inflicted Palin). We can't realistically hope for that good a result this year, but we don't have to do that well to win it all.

[awesomerwb1]

21. My heart says YES

my brain says no. So maybe a little?

[yonder]

22. It (I assume it's the DNC) is spending money in Idaho, why not?

For the last couple of weeks, the Boise broadcast TV market at least, has been blanketed with plenty of Kamala Harris ads. I figure both parties always consider Idaho to be a red state lock, so much less is ever spent here. I can’t say I’ve ever seen this much top ticket campaign advertising, this early, in Idaho. This year is different. It's good to see, I say keep it up and spread it out.

[Stinky The Clown]

23. YESSSSSSS!!!!!

[Rubyshoo]

24. YES !!!

Hell yes !!!

[nycbos]

25. Too early to tell.

A lot can happen between now and November. As we've seen with Harris catching fire. Given there are very good people running this campaign I suspect they will do a careful sober analysis of this question and make an appropriate decision. I

[Prairie Gates]

26. Oh Lord

[NoMoreRepugs]

27. Spend money? Hell, BORROW if you have to - DEMOCRACY is at stake for christsakes.

[HelpImSurrounded]

28. YES! STOP ABANDONING US!

[duncang]

30. From 2000 to 2020 Texas went from

38% to 46% democrat on the presidential election. So it’s moving in the right direction

[Upthevibe]

31. gab13by13..........Cruz vrs. Allred...

I made a post on 8/12.....I don't know how to post it but you can find it by date and my user name....

Here were the numbers then. Cruz was ahead of Allred as follows:

54 Cruz
46 Allred
(per 538)

53 Cruz
47 Allred
(The Hill)

47.2 Cruz
39.6 Allred
(Real Clear Polling)

Now it looks like Allred is gaining some ground...

Texas Senate polls, Cruz vs. Allred
Cruz has a 6.1% lead based on 18 polls.
Aug 14, 2024

https://elections2024.thehill.com/texas/texas-senate-cruz-allred/

Should we spend money in TX? Hell yes if it's there to spend and it doesn't take away from other races.

[spooky3]

32. We should not overlook the fact that Jen Dillon is an excellent campaign chair

She also headed Biden's successful 2020 campaign.

Julia Chavez Rodriguez is the campaign manager.

I get the respect for Plouffe, but women deserve respect for their effectiveness too.

https://ballotpedia.org/Kamala_Harris_presidential_campaign_staff,_2024

[Bev54]

33. Absolutely, put money wherever they have a really good candidate even in red states.

Dems need to realize this is the year to cover all races, there is something going on.

[Zambero]

34. To bolster Senate candidates

and who knows, the national ticket might also be able to pull off a surprise or two. First and foremost, the "blue wall" needs to hold. Then the other four swing states + NE-01. If those are all deemed secure and resources are available, it would sweet to pull in a few others. But at this time, as for the two states in question, sending Cruz and Scott packing are key to retaining control of the Senate.

[LongtimeAZDem]

36. No. AZ, MI, NV, PA WI, and WV. Maybe NC.

[Upthevibe]

43. LongtimeAZDem

I responded if there's money to spend and it doesn't take away from other races....

Here's my long post that I made on 8/12.....

Something to think about......
Sometimes it's uncomfortable for me to bring things up but I need to express my feelings.

During this critical time, it seems to me (my opinion) like we need to be really mindful when we post. I'm referring to various situations in the states. I guess the only measuring tool we have right now are the polls, and I realize there are issues with them.

I have a group of friends who are very politically aware (we're part of the LGBTQ+ community) but not political junkies like I am. They come to me asking where I think their help would best be utilized (monetary donations, phone banking, etc.). I try to give them as educated guess as possible.

For example, when looking at the Amy McGrath/Mitch McConnell race in 2020, I and everyone I know would have, of course, LOVED for McGrath to win! However, the polls NEVER showed that Amy had a chance. The final numbers ended up being:

Mitch McConnell 57.77%
Amy McGrath 38.24%

In 2020, a friend (before speaking with me) donated money to McGrath's campaign. Had she come to me, I could have given her some more viable options. The money could have gone to a closer race (for The Senate or The House). I was looking at some close Senate races from 2020 and I realize the North Carolina race between Cunningham (D) and Tillis (R) was very close but from what I can tell a sex scandal was the nail in the coffin for Cunningham.

DU is a wonderful place to discuss a wide variety of issues. It's fun to talk about hopes and dreams, who we'd love to see in V.P. Harris' cabinet, etc.! Having said that, when we're talking about facts and figures, I think it's really import to stick to the facts and figures. I'm NOT saying that I don't think we should share our feelings that unexpected results can occur, maybe we have information on a candidate that could effect the race, etc.

What prompted this post is the speculation that Colin Allred (D) and Ted Cruz (R) are in a close race (TX). I've spent almost the past year and a-half working in TX and was born and raised there until I moved to CA in '88 (and am happy to be back home in CA now). As much as most of us absolutely DETEST Ted Cruz, here are the current polls. And, BTW, the progressives I know there don't think Allred has a chance........ I can't express what my joy would be if I'm completely wrong about this!

Cruz is ahead of Allred as follows:

54 Cruz
46 Allred
(per 538)

53 Cruz
47 Allred
(The Hill)

47.2 Cruz
39.6 Allred
(Real Clear Polling)

I don't want to be a buzz kill and I'm over the moon with excitement about the Harris/Walz campaign! I'm just feeling we should be mindful regarding what we post if we're framing it in a way that could be misleading. BTW, I'm a very spiritual person (NOT religious) who actually believes in miracles!

I hope folks understand what I'm saying in the spirit in which it's intended. If not, pile on..... I can take it...

[LongtimeAZDem]

45. I don't believe in miracles, and we have to win this one

[Upthevibe]

46. LongtimeAZDem

I understand......... (about miracles - I'm just thankful that I do because of my life experiences)....

We MUST win this one. That's it. We must win. If there's money that could go to a winnable state instead of a state we 99.9% can't/won't win, IMHO it MUST go to the possibly winnable state.

Also, we need money to go to The Senate and The House.....And even state elections....

[democrattotheend]

38. I'm starting to think Florida might be worth it

We probably won't win but could force Trump to spend time and money there, which would probably get under his skin by humiliating him. I was in the camp of don't go down that rabbit hole again until today, but there was a poll showing it within 2 points, and I remembered that it looked out of reach until the very end in 2012.

[TheKentuckian]

40. Yep, we should have the resources to at least spread the Republicans thinner if nothing else.

Always be attacking.

[lpbk2713]

41. In Florida many young people will be voting.

And they will offset a lot of retirees.

[Ping Tung]

42. Yes. Especially if the Dems start looking like a possible win. The Pubs will have to respond with their own money

from the campaign in the real battleground states.

[Mz Pip]

44. Looks like we have the money

The RNC can ill afford to spend money in states they thought were locks. They’re going broke defending the 🍊 🤡 lawsuits.

So yeah, make them work for it. We could even win.