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Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
Thu Aug 15, 2024, 07:34 AM Aug 2024

Vance's grandmother remarks have heavy underlying message

The message from the patriarchy as embodied in Vance to women:

Not only should you be raising kids and not working in your reproductive years, but you should not be working in your grandma years because you should be raising grandkids. Never mind that us men rightfully get to frolic and play and muck around with power and creativity and destructiveness.

Women, forget about working and careers and influence. Raise kids and provide for your man. It's your life and your life-long purpose. And if you don't produce progeny, we'll take away your vote.

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Vance's grandmother remarks have heavy underlying message (Original Post) Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2024 OP
His owner Thiel has long been famous for saying women's right to vote was the beginning of the downfall of America nt lostnfound Aug 2024 #1
Ugh, I looked up what you're writing about arlyellowdog Aug 2024 #2
Theil must really hate women. I guess they were only necessary to give birth to his adopted children. flying_wahini Aug 2024 #15
According to these Fascist clowns,... magicarpet Aug 2024 #3
A winning strategy -- for 1904. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2024 #7
... turning back the pages of time,... magicarpet Aug 2024 #8
I'm thinking more like evolves Aug 2024 #13
"Er, we will say out loud that the 'bad girls' should be stoned but spooky3 Aug 2024 #11
Careful,... magicarpet Aug 2024 #19
hee hee! nt spooky3 Aug 2024 #21
A friend of mine would make her husband Zoomie1986 Aug 2024 #30
That's quite weird and creepy. Scrivener7 Aug 2024 #31
I'd love to hear what Usha Vance thinks of this mainer Aug 2024 #4
He probably has little to do with her aside from putting her down. flying_wahini Aug 2024 #17
.... the wife is probably putting iching powder in his underwear. magicarpet Aug 2024 #22
I hope she has a secret plan to get the hell out before her will is broken Hekate Aug 2024 #23
I'd love if she left him during the campaign. CrispyQ Aug 2024 #27
What about the Aunts? MissB Aug 2024 #5
No wonder his grandmother set his grandfather on fire maxrandb Aug 2024 #6
What did I miss? 😳 n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2024 #26
From "Silly-Billy-Eulogy" maxrandb Aug 2024 #28
holy shit! Thx for the info. n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2024 #29
That book was bizarre from start to finish. It's not Appalachia, Jimmie. It's your weird gene pool. Scrivener7 Aug 2024 #32
Meanwhile men in the same age group malaise Aug 2024 #9
The 4 ages of women as regressives see the world sanatanadharma Aug 2024 #10
Yeah, you got it, just about right.........if your a MAGAT male! machoneman Aug 2024 #12
Ohio 10 year olds Dear_Prudence Aug 2024 #14
Fuck you, JD!!! ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2024 #16
Crazy sh*t. What world does he live in. He needs to wake up to reality. n/t iluvtennis Aug 2024 #18
what is that? are you assuming she said that/felt that way? where are orleans Aug 2024 #20
I wrote the OP. Grandmas are not patriarchy. I should have put "about grandmas" for "grandmother" in title. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2024 #24
I think it's the sentence structure that's confusing. haele Aug 2024 #25

lostnfound

(17,520 posts)
1. His owner Thiel has long been famous for saying women's right to vote was the beginning of the downfall of America nt
Thu Aug 15, 2024, 07:44 AM
Aug 2024

arlyellowdog

(1,430 posts)
2. Ugh, I looked up what you're writing about
Thu Aug 15, 2024, 08:16 AM
Aug 2024

Women and the poor are the biggest pain to Libertarians. Hey, JD and Peter, you know what is the most important job a woman can do after a certain age? After 35, she can run for president, save our democracy, and shut you the hell up.

flying_wahini

(8,275 posts)
15. Theil must really hate women. I guess they were only necessary to give birth to his adopted children.
Thu Aug 15, 2024, 10:20 AM
Aug 2024

Surprised he shows little to no respect as to what women are about. So he can’t be THAT smart.
I wonder who screwed him up? When you dismiss half the people on earth as disposable…..

magicarpet

(18,515 posts)
3. According to these Fascist clowns,...
Thu Aug 15, 2024, 08:23 AM
Aug 2024

A woman's only job should be subservience to her man, keeping him happy, catering to his each and every need, and finally bearing and caring for his children.

If she deviates from that well defined course as establish by the patriarchy - she is nothing but a common street whore and a filthy prostitute - who should be stoned until dead.

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《Thoughts, mind experiments, mental exercises, and daily wisdom tidbits - brought to you by JD Vance the couch humping fornicator and masturbator.》

trDUMP/Vance - 2024

Oy-vey,.. what a winning strategy.

spooky3

(38,634 posts)
11. "Er, we will say out loud that the 'bad girls' should be stoned but
Thu Aug 15, 2024, 10:01 AM
Aug 2024

we need to keep enough of them around for our own recreation. The wife can just turn the other cheek. "

magicarpet

(18,515 posts)
19. Careful,...
Thu Aug 15, 2024, 10:23 AM
Aug 2024

You're going to end up on the couch for both sleeping and fornicating the cushions. Or worse yet,.. out in the dog house in the backyard of the neighbor's house. Fifi will be your new room mate.

 

Zoomie1986

(1,213 posts)
30. A friend of mine would make her husband
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 05:34 AM
Aug 2024

Sleep in the dog house for real when he did something beyond the pale. He could sort of fit because they had one of those enormous hounds (wolfhound?) that was almost as big as a pony.

I almost felt bad about how I was part of why he had to spend yet another night in the doghouse after we met. Almost, but not quite. He really shouldn't have loped over to me with that big drooly doggie grin of his to say, 'So you're Zoomie! Wow, you really fill out that top! What's your cup size?'

Oh no you didn't-- And that's when the wifehammer came down.

After the rough start, I grew to like him well enough, but he had zero filter between his brain and mouth.

magicarpet

(18,515 posts)
22. .... the wife is probably putting iching powder in his underwear.
Thu Aug 15, 2024, 10:36 AM
Aug 2024

... after every load of laundry.

CrispyQ

(40,970 posts)
27. I'd love if she left him during the campaign.
Thu Aug 15, 2024, 04:25 PM
Aug 2024

Then goes & campaigns for Harris!

But I'm sure she's the dutiful little wife. So sad.

maxrandb

(17,428 posts)
28. From "Silly-Billy-Eulogy"
Thu Aug 15, 2024, 04:51 PM
Aug 2024

Last edited Tue Aug 27, 2024, 08:35 AM - Edit history (1)

Grandpa came home drunk once too often, so Vance's grandma doused him with booze, struck a match and set him on fire.

I come from the same background and area of Ohio/KY/WV that JD does, but my grandmother never set anyone on fire. Guess my family's values were a little "less weird" than JD's.

Scrivener7

(59,522 posts)
32. That book was bizarre from start to finish. It's not Appalachia, Jimmie. It's your weird gene pool.
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 06:53 AM
Aug 2024

malaise

(296,118 posts)
9. Meanwhile men in the same age group
Thu Aug 15, 2024, 09:21 AM
Aug 2024

can stock up on viagra, reproduce or have vasectomies with no government interference.

In other words women of all ages are men’s playthings to be given orders as they pull strings.

Fuck that.

Dear_Prudence

(1,172 posts)
14. Ohio 10 year olds
Thu Aug 15, 2024, 10:11 AM
Aug 2024

Are not excused from compulsory reproduction. Your summary is horrifying in its clarity, but I would quibble that "child" (a 10 year old) and "baby maker" are not exclusive for regressives. Maybe their view is:

Prepubescent
Baby maker
Baby sitter

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,898 posts)
16. Fuck you, JD!!!
Thu Aug 15, 2024, 10:21 AM
Aug 2024

As a mother, I raised kids! Cooked and cleaned house for my man! Then I worked outside the home, 2 jobs at the same time when my man was offered to leave his career job at IBM in 1992 after almost 26 years in with the promise of retirement after 30 years in 1996! We needed the money as we had two kids still in high school, Bills, etc!

As a Grandmother, I love my Grandchildren! But it was the responsibility of my children to raise them! Not me!

So JD can take his Bullshit and shove it where the sun does not shine!

orleans

(36,927 posts)
20. what is that? are you assuming she said that/felt that way? where are
Thu Aug 15, 2024, 10:23 AM
Aug 2024

you getting this from?
btw - the only link on google for that first line is your post on du

rather misleading imo

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
24. I wrote the OP. Grandmas are not patriarchy. I should have put "about grandmas" for "grandmother" in title. . . . nt
Thu Aug 15, 2024, 03:37 PM
Aug 2024

haele

(15,404 posts)
25. I think it's the sentence structure that's confusing.
Thu Aug 15, 2024, 03:48 PM
Aug 2024

Instead of "Vance's Grandmother remarks", it should be "Vance's remarks about Grandmothers."
Both are correct in theory, but the first lacks direction; if you don't know the context, one could think his grandmother was a bitter, emotionally immature woman who thought she would have more control and comfort in her life playing the perpetual victim and guilt-tripping him to get whatever she wanted than actually taking responsibility for her future.
Of course, she very well could have been a woman like that.

Haele

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