It's time for drastic action to get SalmonEnchantedEvening back...

[Atman]

Someone call CATMAN!

[spanone]

1. bwahahahahaha... i'm with ya!

k&r

[haikugal]

2. I'm with you.....Catman just say the word!!

[CherokeeDem]

3. Love it!

With you all the way!

[kiva]

4. Let me know if he needs a loyal sidekick.

I have two unemployed kittehs that could part-time it.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. And this cat, too:

[Hekate]

99. Kello, Kitty

Long ago I didn't have a cat carrier for trips to the vet, and my kitty did exactly that. The accompanying yowls on the drive were enough to scare the bejayzus out of me -- I kept imagining what would happen to me if he managed to actually get all the way out.

That is a Very Scary picture.

Hekate

[pinboy3niner]

6. Quick--the Cat Signal!

[Danmel]

58. OMG

you owe me a new keyboard

[DonRedwood]

7. abracatabra!

[snappyturtle]

8. Do your stuff Catman....and pronto! nt

[LadyHawkAZ]

10. This guy is on the case!

[annabanana]

11. QUICK!

[malaise]

12. K & R

I had no idea what was going on

[femrap]

13. For all who want

to know, one of SalmonEnchantedEvenings friends (Patiod) emailed me about my objections to the Superman comic that appeared on Sunday's Lolz Cats.

So here you go. This is what Patiod (Bob's friend) wrote me and my response. I have never emailed Bob. He wrote me a not so nice one. I deleted it.

And if anyone wants to email me about my reaction to the Superman comment, I won't respond so save your tender typing fingers. Bob wrote me and told me that 'You own this.' I did not respond. So now you have all the words, pictures, etc. And maybe you'll understand why I reacted as I did. Or not. I don't care. You can all put me on Ignore and go merrily along with your lives.

Thank you, Atman, for your thread. And I am glad to see that Bob is getting all the attention he needs.

To femrap:

> I just saw that in the Sunday LOLz thread, you implied that my friend Bob (also known as SalmonchantedEvening) is probably not really a nice guy.
>
> Here's the thing: I know Bob in real life. He and I met because we realized (via DU) that we had both attended the same high school, and had moved back to the homes we grew up in to take care of an aging, immobile parent (his mom, my dad).
>
> He's also a Facebook friend, and he posts daily on a wide variety of Progressive issues, including lots of really positive feminist messages. I know men who profess to be feminists who are actually passive-aggressive about women. That's not him. Years and years of Facebook posts, and none belie so much as a shred of misogyny. Misanthropy? Absolutely - lots of "I Hate the General Public" posts, but you would expect that from someone who also holds down a job serving the general public.
>
> He's a sincerely good-hearted, truly Progressive guy.
>
> Your post about the Superman cartoon was completely off-base, and this is coming from a woman who has no problem telling her (male) partner's (male) friends why the expressions "man up" and "grow a pair" are both insulting and stupid. I didn't find the cartoon all that funny, either, but you have to be looking really, really, hard to find it offensive.
>
> My suggestion is that you do exactly what you said - put Bob on "ignore", which will spare you from any more potential Sunday LOLz outrage, and spare those of us who know and respect Bob from your uninformed guesses about his character.
>
> - Pattie O'Donnell/patiod
>
> Pattie,

I have been looking at Bob's animal photos for a while. In fact, I look forward to seeing them. I've even forwarded them to a couple of friends. I like animals better than most people....I'm sure you can see why.

This is the first time I saw a comic in his post NOT about animals. I was like WTF. As I said it stuck out like a sore thumb. I just didn't get it. It seemed so out of place. When I saw it, all I thought of was 'SPLAT' like the people who jumped from the WTC. That is what it triggered in me. That is how I felt. It was not funny to me. I can still hear that horrible sound. If you and Bob can't handle my experience to the comic then I suggest you put ME on IGNORE.

Would it be too much to ask that Bob consider, 'Gee, I never thought of how that comic might appear to others. Humor can be a really emotional issue.' No apology needed. Just the realization that others may view comics/humor in a very different light.

I, too, have had to move back to my hometown to care for my 85 year-old mother. And aren't you lucky to have a friend with whom to share the experience of parent-caring. This past year has been simply torturous for me. And none of my aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. have lifted a finger to even bring a plate of home-cooked food to their sister/aunt. And one of them lives right across the street, while two live within two blocks. It has been a real eye-opener for me.

I don't care about Facebook, Twitter, etc. I don't have time for social media. I just get the news from a couple of sites and make comments when something grabs my attention.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go get Xmas decorations from my mother's garage and try to make her home look somewhat festive. My tiny apartment is still filled with stacks of unopened boxes, empty shelves, and a sofa covered with papers and mail. There will be no Xmas decor at my place. I'm too damn tired.

And btw, my mother's home is very small with only two bedrooms and the second one is used for sewing, the computer, and yes, an old typewriter which she still uses because of her tremors....just so you understand why I have an apartment.

I see no reason for further communication.

femrap.

eta: for clarification

[Marrah_G]

14. What a piece of work you are

Welcome to ignore. I hope everyone else ignores you to. Then you can have all the fun you want ranting to fucking nobody.

[msanthrope]

17. You know, posting someone's name is pretty crappy. And your critique of

SCE is one of the silliest I've ever read.

You are not a nice person.

[LadyHawkAZ]

18. While I'm sorry you're having real-life problems

1) taking it out on others and then blaming them for it is not acceptable and

2) the ignore button works two ways. The now-hidden posts were nasty and unnecessary.

I sincerely hope things get better for you.

ETA 3) you do know posting real-life information on other people is a TOS violation, right?

[Bonobo]

21. That is a real betrayal.

That person wrote you a genuinely polite and personal message and you betrayed her by posting and including her name.

Shame on you.

[Patiod]

127. And Irish "Smith" or "Jones"

There are tons of people with my last name all over the place, so that provides some anonymity right there.

And as for "polite" - I've always firmly believed that each and every email written for business or personal reasons could get into the hands of the subject of the email or be put out in public. This belief has saved my sorry ass on many, many occasions.

[mac56]

22. I have never felt so pleased to put someone on ignore.

If that's genuinely how you felt about the Superman comic, why didn't you send Bob a private text message to discuss it?

I won't have the pleasure of reading your possible reply, but let me kindly suggest that you get over yourself.

[anneboleyn]

96. Me too. I wish one could "ignore" multiple times.

And amen to this jerk's constant need for attention. It is not okay to shame and deliberately humiliate others to draw attention to one's own p.o.v. or to post NAMES on a political website where (like!) the point is to have some degree of anonymity.

[Warpy]

102. This subthread is giving me hope

that I'm not the only one who thinks nitpickers, shit stirrers and self appointed thought police need to be encouraged to go elsewhere. Their spirits are far too tender for a political discussion board.

[MADem]

175. +1,000 -- I think there's a real difference between "hurtful" conversation and

"conversation that holds an opinion with which I do not agree."

If people are "hurt" by opinions, they would probably be better off locking themselves into a small bathroom and talking to themselves.

[neverforget]

23. Why don't YOU put him on ignore since YOU are the one with the problem

[hifiguy]

24. Keep digging.

May this be the epitaph on your DU tombstone.

[LadyHawkAZ]

41. Jury went 3-3 to leave it

[LadyHawkAZ]

46. It's not supposed to be

TOS is very specific.

Unfortunately if the post doesn't get hidden I don't think the TOS alert goes through.

[tandot]

56. I alerted and checked the TOS box

very unfortunate that 3 of the jurors decided that posting someones real name is cool. Unbelievable

[LadyHawkAZ]

62. No, only once

but I think other people have notified the admins about this. Hopefully they will delete both posts.

[tandot]

67. I don't think we can, but when I got the notification of the jury results of 3-3

in my inbox, I was able to send an alert to the admins. Hopefully, they'll take care of it.

[Ruby the Liberal]

75. Yes - realert this POS and check TOS

Admin get all TOS-marked alerts, even after a jury.

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

91. When I alerted, all I got was the jury 3-3 notice. And the post is still up hours later... nt

[jeff47]

85. When alerting on a TOS violation, you often have to remind the jury of the TOS

I copy-n-paste the relevant part of the TOS.

[tandot]

89. Thanks for the advise. I didn't do that.

I just thought that DUers knew that posting someones real name is a violation of the TOS.

I'll definitely do that the next time.

[regnaD kciN]

97. It's also odd...

...that the same post was made to two different threads.

Both were alerted.

In one case, the jury voted to hide it. The other let it stand.

Weird.

[JimDandy]

53. A TOS shouldn't have gone to a jury. Wrong level. Hope femrap's post gets looked at higher up.

Really awful of her to display a name from a private email-which, by the way, was the proper venue for all of her superman-related posts in the first place.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

55. Which would have done no good anyway.

This poster needs to do the right thing and delete it. If not it remains here for every nutcase stalker to see.

[DonRedwood]

59. It was also posted on my post...the jury hid it 6-0

one jury OKs sharing our names in public, one jury hid it...

Posted a DUers real name that they took out of a private email. Not Ok in my opinion. It was posted in two posts so I am alerting on both posts.

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Wed Dec 5, 2012, 10:09 PM, and voted 6-0 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: I'm voting to hide this because I have been sick of your shit for a really long time. You are a mean, nasty, angry person who I would avoid like the plague in real life.

It is sad that a person who is pretty much the opposite of you is leaving and you are staying.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT and said: Please don't use the posters real name without permission
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT and said: On one hand, I don't think anyone should send DU Mail with any expectation of privacy... but this "femrap' person seems to be unhinged and is giving actual feminists a bad name. I am suspecting trollery and am voting to hide to shut this bullshit down.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: No explanation given

[MADem]

173. The Admins should review that as a TOS violation.

That will only happen if the TOS alert was checked.

Respect people's privacy.
Do not post or link to any private/personal information about any person, even if it is publicly available elsewhere on the Internet.

[Cleita]

29. Really not cool, n/t

[kiva]

35. The Cliff Notes version:

"I have problems that no one else could possibly have or understand.

I did not like the cartoon but instead of politely disagreeing with one of the nicest guys on DU I attacked him because I have problems that no one else could possibly have or understand.

When someone e-mailed me about the storm my rant caused, I did not answer her but instead chose to post her e-mail, complete with signature, because I have problems that no one else could possibly have or understand.

Since I am the center of the DU universe no one need bother to try to communicate with me, because I have problems that no one else could possibly have or understand."

And by the way, femrap, if you checked you'd find that many DUers have dealt with the same problems, but with much more grace.

[Jakes Progress]

157. She is truly graceless.

People have shit in their lives. Some deal with it and remain human. Others - as this one - just roll in in and wear it like a coat of self-pity. Nobility is not a part of this one's life. It's amazing how much she could benefit by learning to say "I'm sorry." But I doubt she has ever felt sorry for anything.

[MADem]

174. I would give my eyeteeth

and any or all teeth in my mouth to be able to have the "burden" of caring for my late father.

He's been gone for over thirty years and it still feels like yesterday.

I think that post hit a lot of people the wrong way, for precisely the reasons you express. No grace, no class, no empathy--just me, me, me.

[kiva]

179. Ditto.

My mom's been gone for six years, my dad for eleven...or yesterday, depending on my feelings.

[ms liberty]

37. Congratulations...

You' re about to become my first ignore , and I've been a member since 03.

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

93. Hey, my first ignore too.... hope she gets tomestoned for violating terms of service. NT

[mike_c]

38. wow....

That was just plain mean. I'm sorry your life sucks so much that you have to shit on others to make yourself feel better. Welcome to ignore. I hope you work things out. Somewhere else would be my preference.

[name not needed]

39. You are a goddamned lunatic.

[Blue Palasky]

40. Shhhh

[EverHopeful]

43. You've convinced me to learn about the ignore feature.

There are billions of people on this planet, most of whom don't even know you exist. I choose to retroactively join them.

[hifiguy]

45. Why the fk is deliberately posting another DUer's real name

not grounds for an IMMEDIATE tombstone?

[name not needed]

47. They need more names for the blacklist.

[RagAss]

48. Ignored with Honor....

[apocalypsehow]

50. You are a very unpleasant human being, and are making DU suck for a whole lot good people.

I hope the Admins will look at showing you DU's exit door.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

51. I'll ask you here as well. Please delete this post.

You are to my understanding violating the TOS of DU. It's also painfully rude.

Please delete this before you cause some undeserving person real life problems for trusting you with their name.

[Vanje]

66. Stop it.

[tilsammans]

69. Tacky tacky tacky

#thatisall

[Panasonic]

70. You, alone, are going to carry the burden of killing a popular feature in DU.

Sunday's LOLCats were a staple for me for many months.

You should have not bothered to comment on it.

If you don't accept responsibility, then I have nothing else to say to you.

Therefore, you will be viewed as an outcast of DU.

Don't ask me or anyone for help. I suggest that you leave DU, forever - and find some place to nitpick.

[Ruby the Liberal]

73. What a piece you are.

I, too, work with the public, and you exemplify bad days on the job. So many nights I go home and say something like "you wouldn't believe this latest magnificent POS I had to deal with today", and now I get to come home on GOOD days and see shit like you have been posting to top even that. LOL

Quit while you are "ahead" because believe me, its going to get worse if you keep trying to excuse your nasty ass behaviour.

Have a nice day.

[Canuckistanian]

77. Just go

And never post here again. Seriously.

[DonCoquixote]

79. T-O-S

You could have easily put (person A) instead of putting the person's full name, especially with correspondence that was not meant for public ears.

I honestly feel that we may need harder mods, as no one reads the ToS.

[jeff47]

81. So because your life is unhappy, you want to make other unhappy?

Causing misery to others is not going to make your life better. Nor does your dysfunctional family excuse your actions.

Please get help.

[AlexSatan]

129. +1

[JohnnyRingo]

142. +1

There's the bottom line.
No need to reply to any other post here.

[proReality]

82. Wow

I'm truly sorry you have so much on your plate. But so do I. I'm taking care of my 92-year old father and he has advanced Alzheimer's. I've been caring for him for 6 1/2 years. There is no one else to help because I'm an only child and the closest relatives are 1,000 miles from here. In spite of all the work and frustration, I've managed to remain civil to people.

It can be done. Please try it.

[bhikkhu]

83. Ten years without using the ignore function...

but now I have one person on ignore. I disagree with people all the time, but to be abusive to a really nice person, and then to post private communication with names...ugh. Why? I know this is the big bad internet and all, but why?

Anyway, now I have someone on ignore...but I'd so much rather just have LOLcats back!

[jsr]

84. This is petty and vile.

[ButterflyBlood]

86. Hey did someone order a pizza? I think I can smell one...

Yeah one might be coming soon...

[flvegan]

88. DU's token vegan chimes in. And starts with "Really?"

Awww, how cute. You like animals. (psst, humans are animals, just for future reference and whatnot). And btw, in your first two paragraphs you referenced yourself "I" 13 times. (so long as it's not about you, love).

"Bob" doesn't need to consider how a comic appears to another. If this hardcore asshole liberator of animals can laugh and enjoy what he posts in pictures regarding animals, then you need to turn your sensitivity down a few notches, especially considering what you probably had for dinner tonight. Animals are animals, don't you know.

Invoking 9/11 on DU...ambitious, but rubbish.

[Jamastiene]

100. I have been taking care of a quadriplegic relative for 20 years now.

Your first problem is your mentality about it. As hard as it is, it is a blessing to be able to care for another human being that no one else in the family is willing to care for, especially when it is an older relative. You learn a lot from older relatives and they can be a real joy to be around, if you quit looking at them like a burden and start looking at the entire situation differently. Yes, the human body can be a real nightmare to keep clean, especially when it is another person's body you need to manually care for, but remember there is a person attached to that body. You have to remember it is not easy for them either. Put yourself in their shoes, mentally, and you will realize why your attitude should change. It is NOT easy for them to be in a situation where they have to rely on a family member to take care of them like that.

There are a lot of positives from taking care of a sick parent/relative. In between the work part of it, there are lots of chances to get to spend more time with them and talk to them and, most importantly, listen to them.

I, too, have boxes of stuff from storage that I haven't had time to unpack or go through. I haven't use it in years. Most of it is out and out junk when I stop to think about it. It's no big deal any more really. My entire life is different now than it was 20 years ago...and it is better than it was back then too. It is all in how you look at it. Your attitude is what is causing your trouble.

The bottom line is that you accused SCE of something he is not. Would it kill you to apologize to him or, at the very least, delete references to DUers' real names in your post? They took the time to write you and you turned around and made the entire situation worse by posting their real names on DU for all the not-safe-at-all world to see.

[Scuba]

117. +1

[kiva]

122. +1

You said it perfectly.

[Patiod]

123. Agree 100% Jamastiene

My dad always assumed that he was a burden, and he was anything but because I decided going into it that if I looked at it as a burden, it would be, and if I looked at it as a privilege, just as you did, it would be way, way easier to get up every morning. And it was.

One day my dad asked me how I put up with him, and I said "Do you remember when I was little and had bronchitis all the time? And you would come in and rock me to sleep in the rocker, in this room, even though you had to go to work the next day? Well, you still have a few years of credit on the books for that." He laughed, but I meant it.

I'm pleased to say I took care of him with a happy heart, even though he was a stubborn old coot and we fought like cats and dogs when we were younger.

"And aren't you lucky to have someone to share the experience of parent caring" Yikes. I honestly felt really sad for her when I got this reply.

Keep up the good work of caretaking. And don't worry about my anonymity - my last name is like an Irish "Smith" or "Jones"!

[tosh]

125. "it is a blessing"

Absolute truth!

The poster who has stirred this foul porridge has so much yet to learn. I am concerned for the human in her care.

[Hayabusa]

101. You are quite the piece of work, aren't you?

I can't believe that I'm dignifying your vain attempt at an explanation with a response, really...

[DemocratsForProgress]

103. Adorable...

[letemrot]

104. I've lurked way more than posted

Thanks.. Your ability to spread your misery to all of us is an inspiration. An inspiration to use the ignore feature. I will miss the LOL CATZ. I will not miss you.

[Lucinda]

105. I really am sorry that you are having trouble. I figured that you might be under stress

when I read your posts in the lounge. Things have been pretty rough around DU lately too, and that can definitely add to the stress. I don't agree with what you said, or how you said it, but I do want you to know that I understand how easy it can be for things to spiral out of control.

This place goes a little crazy after a tough election cycle, and I hope it all settles down soon.

Luc

[Raine]

107. Tacky, tacky, tacky what you did. You should

apologize.

[MessiahRp]

108. I think you're way, way over the line with this.

Posting someone's personal name when in fairness they were super polite in asking you to understand who you were upset with is really fucking shady and seriously you deserve a tombstone for that.

As much as you might feel emboldened to attack that Superman cartoon on the grounds of your feelings being upset, realize that you going on a rampage doesn't mean much in the long run. You've gone from what could have been a polite disagreement to bashing the poster personally, driving him away (he who provides a service that others here on this site enjoy)and starting a mob to get you removed from DU. And your flippant attitude about the thoughts of others in this and your attempts to act like you're so cool by showing real names, show that you have a flagrant disregard for this community.

Let me remind you of something. This is a private forum/community. It's not protected by free speech and your ability to exist here is purely subjectively chosen by the Admins and Mods here. You don't have the right to break TOS and call out people by their names. You also don't have the right to be a total asshole and start a massive flamewar. You didn't like the post, we get it. So hit ignore or just make a comment about your point and move on. You chose to make this a bigger deal because you seem to want attention.

If you want these kinds of fights... to make a greater stand against misogyny, you're in the wrong forum. As the HopeHoops incident showed, there is unity on a line of where misogyny cannot go. That comic was silly and you can see from Superman's concerned look at the end that he fucked up and is going to go save her. Is it misogynistic to say a woman has baggage? I say no. I'm a male who has been divorced, had serious family issues, has two biological kids and a ton of debt. If I were single right now, guess what many, MANY women would say about me? I have baggage. Baggage is also subjective, as are most opinion based thoughts.

So your comments are off base to begin with and then rude as fuck when you get to your accusatory tone.

If you want to fight so bad, go to Free Republic. I guarantee there, you'll have a bitter fight every single day about misogyny and you may make more enemies, which I am sure will allow you to puff your self importance up that much higher.

[Vinnie From Indy]

110. Do you get off on being a jerk?

It would appear so.

Cheers!

[demmiblue]

111. Nasty.

I hope SCE stays and you are shown the door.

[HappyMe]

116. There are plenty of people out here having a rough time of it.

That's not an excuse for a unwarranted attack on somebody that did/said nothing nasty to you.
Nor does it excuse you posting somebody's real name.

Pepperoni or sausage?

[Javaman]

118. With your post, I highly suggest you change your screen name to

Pariah. Given all the comments regarding your issue with SalmonEnchangedEvening it appears as if you have purposely put yourself into the position of, and this is the first time I have seen this on DU, social outcast.

My advice would be not to post for a very long time and or issue a massive apology to SalmonEnchantedEvening and to DU.

Lacking those two things, anything you say from this point forward would probably do more damage to your rep than anything else.

my two cents.

[6000eliot]

119. Thank you, ignore function!

[bullwinkle428]

121. If your posting of patiod's private message to you was some effort to engender

sympathy for you on the part of the entire DU community, then it failed miserably.

[snooper2]

126. I think there's a different reason none of your family comes around...

[AlexSatan]

128. You are right :" I just didn't get it"

But yet you decided to not only comment on it, but attack a person who looks to be a very nice person.

It was a joke.

For the humor-impaired: HE IS FLYING. Guess what? Since he clearly can defy physics, that means he can zip down and catch her before she goes "Splat". Haven't you ever seen a Superman movie? He does it all of the time. Heck, he even did it with an airplane.

Here's him doing it a different way.

Do everyone a favor: before getting offended by a cartoon, please ask someone with a sense of humor to explain it to you or at least tell you if it is actually offensive.

[madmom]

130. Apparently things weren't heated enough in

HofF, she had to bring their hatred here.

[matt819]

133. Goodness, you are unpleasant

For someone who has no reason for further communication and has other things in life to occupy his/her time, you sure do have a lot of time to justify your outrage and personal attacks.

[dgibby]

135. Aren't you just so special?

If you treat people in real life the way you do here at DU, then you have only to look in the nearest mirror to discover the reason your family members aren't willing to help you care for your mother. Personally, I feel sorry for your mother. Must be awful to have to live with someone like you.

[bettyellen]

138. My brother went "SPLAT" as you so delicately put it

And that silly cartoon has got nothing to do with going SPLAT. Everyone knows Superman is faster than a speeding bullet.
You want to really trigger on this SPLAT thing - watch Hudsucker Proxy. A great movie that treats jumping out a window as a running joke.

I'm beginning to understand why feminists are getting a bad "rap" here.
Please do us a favor and be sure to make it clear you're not speaking for any other women here. What you posted was self centered self pitying tripe that has nothing to do with feminism or FFS 9/11 victims.

And posting that letter and name? That is so beyond the pale. Vicious behavior for someone who is requesting to be treated with kid gloves.

[MADem]

176. I've never met a real-life feminist who behaved in such a rude fashion.

The ones I know in the real world aren't anything like many of the "self-declared" ones I have seen on DU.

I often wonder if a percentage of the feminist franchise here isn't some sort of quasi-sophisticated crew (or a single person with multiple identities) "having a laugh"--because the visceral anger and continued outrage just doesn't seem real to me.

[bettyellen]

177. Yeah, I'm starting to think it's a parody designed to make men hate feminists +animal rights people

[CitizenPatriot]

181. Right on MADem

I've seen this kind of rage couched under a "cause" often enough, as if it the righteousness of the cause justifies the hate being spewed.

I am a proud feminist and I get plenty angry at the injustices heaped upon women. I choose to direct my responses at the cause, not at random bystanders posting a cartoon. And frankly, I don't have enough outrage left in me to bother with much after getting through being called a barn yard animal by Republicans.

I have half a mind to suspect this person is a parody of the "FemiNazi" we hear so much about from the Right. The tyranny of cruelty always wants its way no matter the name it hides under.

[JohnnyRingo]

143. I keep reading for just one person supporting you.

There are none.

Seriously, what does that tell you that not one person out of the wide range of personalities in the DU community sees your point?

Think about it, you will have to admit that you're either wrong headed, or everyone else in the whole world is. Deciding on the latter is a sympton of mental illness.

[mn9driver]

144. I have a low post count, but I have been here for a very, very long time.

My ignore list after all that time is empty, but now it will have one entry. Your conduct on this forum is appalling and inexcusable. Bye bye.

[heaven05]

145. you

have serious issues and you really shouldn't communicate with anyone, anymore, until you see a life counselor of some type. bye sorry for your pain.

[Katashi_itto]

146. Dear Felrap, it truly sounds like you have a terrible, awful life.

From which there is no escape.

Good to hear!




(Btw, Fel, I have zero relatives, zero anything in the way of relations.

I have no family. )

Never had the benefit of anyone

Chrstmas for me is always an exercise in loneliness.
But except for mentioning it on this post I never tried to inflict that on anyone else.
Nor, as it seems as you do, try to inflcit misery on others simply because something was wrong in my life.

So peddle your whines somewhere else. I find them even more patently offensive.

[steve2470]

153. Hi femrap, a few words

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1937467

Tsiyu has spoken well of you in the link above: "femrap is basically a very good person, but is opinionated". Tsiyu seems to be a good person of good will, so I'm going to spend a minute on your situation. I am assuming you are not a troll. I hope I am correct in that assumption. I'm also assuming everything you said here is the complete truth.

You've made two "mistakes" here. The first was being very unkind to SCE, undeservedly so in my opinion. That can be easily rectified with a sincere apology to SCE, both public and private. Your choice.

The second mistake is more difficult and Skinner may not have mercy. The decision to post a real life name was a very bad one. Again, if Skinner has mercy, you owe Patiod a sincere apology both public and private. If Skinner PPR's you, perhaps you can return with a sincere apology and a pledge to do better.

Your life sounds painful to me. You need help, as in professional counseling. You can get it in your community, I'm sure, for no fee or very low cost fee. I'd like to think you were simply lashing out at an innocent person out of inner pain. Again, I'm giving Tsiyu's words credit and assuming you are not a troll.

Best wishes to you, even if you get PPR'ed.

Steve

[Jakes Progress]

159. You are so right about the apology.

Two are required. A third one to the whole of DU would be a good idea too.

We will see just how "basically a good person" femrap is. Opinionated is one thing. This is bordering on . . . I don't want to use any word that would really fit here.

She should just apologize and hope she is forgiven - by SCE, by Patiod, by Skinner, and by the hundreds and hundreds of those she has outraged.

[TheManInTheMac]

164. "I see no reason for further communication."

Is that a promise?

[dchill]

165. Please delete this post.

[840high]

168. Why punish others for

your unhappy life?

[Arugula Latte]

171. How dare you reveal someone's name?

Wow, that is low.

Ignored.

[rurallib]

15. your job is to find SCE and bring him home!

[jtuck004]

16. EarlG. Would you open a can of tuna and leave it outside the door? Maybe Salmon will return... n/t

Last edited Thu Dec 6, 2012, 05:21 PM - Edit history (1)

[Marrah_G]

19. And after you put out the tuna, could you please take out the trash? n/t

[LadyHawkAZ]

32. +1 to both of you n/t

[LiberalLoner]

36. I agree

[jtuck004]

33. That might be more than a one person job. <G> n/t

[tandot]

76. your post made me LOL

I almost spit my lemonade on the laptop

[Lugnut]

98. +1,000 n/t

[nolabear]

20. It's time for a lot of crap to stop around here.

It has gone too far.

[neverforget]

28. Outrage is all the rage now

[freshwest]

42. I miss the Mods. I don't remember DU2 being this way. It felt safer to be oneself.

[Rhiannon12866]

92. Me, too... ;(

No mods, no catz...

[MADem]

178. I don't. While this system might be a bit painful, it's more real.

When rude, nasty, vicious and vile communications are swept under the rug, many--if not most--people don't see the true nature of individuals, particularly when they were allowed to come back and post assertions following a scrubbed post that didn't match the reality of the situation, and the mods, because of their role, weren't in a position to challenge or correct any horseshit that was brewing.

The light at DU3 is bright and might hurt our eyes at times...but it's revealing. We see these exhortative conversations and long, drawn-out Threads of Drama BECAUSE all is revealed to us. That's a good thing, IMO.

I'd rather make decisions based on "knowing" than "guessing." Or third-hand DUmails!

[SammyWinstonJack]

112. +1.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

25. Top Cat says -- Come Back!

[awoke_in_2003]

26. Don't forget CatWoman...

Eartha was the best

[ralps]

31. Please come back SalmonChantedEvening!!! I really look forward to your Sunday Kittehs!

[applegrove]

34. Here Chanted, chanted, chanted!

[2naSalit]

49. Quick!

Get a can of treats and shake it outside the door, that always worked for my kitty, she'd be right there in two minutes or less no matter what part of the block she was prowling.

[Jackpine Radical]

54. Nonsense. The job calls for our very own

[font size=8 color=red]CATWOMAN!![/FONT]

[redwitch]

61. Did SCE leave over this?

NOOOooooooooooooooooooooooo!

[Rex]

63. Sink Kittah says it feels strange

all this hate and hostility at DU after our leader was re-elected!!!! Why are we not all happy and cheering and looking forward to improved catfood standards?

Sink Kittah NOT APPPPPROVE!!! Not at all.

[Luminous Animal]

65. He quit over a few ignorant posts from femrap? It looks like he was looking for an excuse.

[Hayabusa]

94. Just curious, but

how many times over the last five or six hours have you posted a variation of that exact same sentence?

[Honeycombe8]

68. I'm unfamiliar with the 'toon thing by Salmonchantedevening, or the toon that caused the problem.But

But he shouldn't let the actions of one, or a few, interfere with his posting in a forum where most enjoy his posts. I've been tempted to do that. In fact, years ago I did do that. But I rejoined later....much later.

There are extremists who are unnecessarily hostile and rude. But most are not.

He shouldn't leave because of one poster.

[progressoid]

72. If yooos needs any help, just give my friend CLAWS a call...

[kestrel91316]

78. Dear ADMIN: I am calling out femrap as a TERRIBLE person

who needs her ass kicked off DU for posting personal info about 2 DUers out of spite.

TOS time. If not now, then when????????????

[tandot]

90. totally agree

[flvegan]

95. In a (probably) never before seen event, flvegan agrees with kestrel91316.

[kestrel91316]

154. Hahaha!

Hey, I took you off ignore a LONG time ago. I just know better than to venture over into veggieland very often!

[Logical]

115. LOL, remember when calling out a DUer like you just did would...

Get your post locked? Apparently NOT under the new worthless jury system!

[kestrel91316]

155. When so many others in this thread felt ok speaking their minds about this particular person,

I just had to put in my two cents' worth.

I don't get why the post didn't get hidden, and it's a LOT worse than what I said.

[libodem]

80. Sometimes my phone logs me out

And sometimes I do get myself in trouble but I always go straight to wondering what I did now, exactly. Usually I know I fucked up. But you didn't do anything wrong. I as much as anyone detest a lack of a sense of humor and killjoys hassling us over dirty words and I hate to see them win. If they ever get me for good I'd want to know that I would be missed and contributed something to the dialog. You have contributed much.
You sounded like you meant what you said. Don't let the spiteful snarkers taunt you with the gbcw but we know you will be back jerk offs get you down. (Yeah, Sid I mean you.) That was a shitty thing to say.

Come back any way. If you don't, and some good comes out it by stopping the self appointed alarmists trying to fumagate DU of fun and brightness, being told to back off the hypervigilance, it still wouldn't be worth it.


I'm tired of self-righteousness being a community standard.

[Liberal_in_LA]

87. lol. I hope it works

[Heidi]

106. Recommended!

[Kurovski]

109. Catman DU!

K&R

[Pryderi]

113. I'm Catman

[HappyMe]

120. OMG!!11

A cartoon!!!11 I'm outraged, I tell ya!!!1

[Pryderi]

131. Here's the non-cartoon Catman

[HappyMe]

134. Wow!

Jeeze! Really.....

[Pryderi]

136. His name was Dennis Avner. He killed himself last month

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/14/dennis-avner-stalking-cat-dead-54-apparent-suicide_n_2128555.html

[MADem]

180. What a hot mess!!! What dentist consented to destroy those teeth in that fashion, I wonder?

The cheek implants, too--horrific! The tattooing is just icing on a very sad cake....

[Soundman]

114. I am pretty sure if you

Go to the " fare the well" thread , the op is mentioned by name several times by those begging them to stay. Should probably have the same outrage for those posts as well.

Personally I didn't get the cartoon at all. Seemed as though half the frames were missing. But there is a lot I don't get. My Sunday will not be the same without the cats. I didn't think every one was belly grabbing funny but a few, well they were priceless. Godspeed SEE, No matter what you decide to do.

[jeff47]

124. I'm pretty sure if you actually go to the fare the well thread you'll notice

that the OP mentioned his own name in his post.

What's OK: Outing your own name on DU.
What's not OK: Outing someone else's name on DU.

[Quantess]

132. Just wanted to add my voice of support.

I am in the overwhelming majority who agrees that a couple of good people got crapped on unfairly.
Worse than a flock of feral cats spraying diarrhea on your laps!

[Jim Lane]

137. I really can't understand all these people putting femrap on Ignore.

I will view her posts with interest so as to be able to alert her next ToS violation.

[Atman]

139. I just know why she is still here.

I was banned from the HoF forum (in retrospect, I'm thankful) over a simple humorous comment -- no humor allowed there. And she was among the knife throwers. I've never read anything positive she's posted. Just look at her Transparency page, this post in particular...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1439668

How is this any different than the horrible stuff she's accused everyone else of? I still don't know why she hasn't been served and extra-large pizza. Maybe she contributed an extra-large fee for her star? She should be gone. She is poison. Bring Sid withers, er, with her.

.

[AmBlue]

140. RIGHT ON!!! Do your magic Catman! :-) n/t

[barbtries]

141. to the rescue!

so cute. come on SalmonEnchantedEvening, you can't resist CATMAN can you?

[SalmonChantedEvening]

147. Nooooooo

He beat me up in Jersey one night!! I still have the limp.

Thanks, Atman. I needed to laugh.

[Phentex]

150. Meet me in the Lounge Sunday morning, k?

Pandas. They're going places.

[Panasonic]

151. So you're back?

Happy happy, joy joy!

[hifiguy]

162. That is a hysterical video.

Cow & Chicken and Ren and Stimpy, and all the other good stuff.

And if SCE is really back, it's time to fire the Party Cannon!

[UnrepentantLiberal]

156. I hope you're back.

I enjoy your Sunday thread.

[Hayabusa]

160. Hurray!

[Lilma]

161. I hope your back to stay.

I would miss your posts and the Lol cats.
Don't let one person run you off--please!

[Kurska]

166. Welcome back, don't let the haters get you down n/a

[LSK]

167. from an old DUer who still lurks on occasion..

Just ignore the person and keep posting. I have been here over 9 years now and this stuff is ALWAYS happening. Just keep doing what you are doing as most of the DUers have your back.

[snagglepuss]

170. SO so happy you're back. I often use computers where I can't log into DU to comment

but I always look forward to your thread. Thanks for coming back.

[Surya Gayatri]

148. VERY ANGRY CAT says "Get a life, FemRap" and leave SCE and LOLCats alone!!!

[Blue Owl]

149. It's just "Catman" -- not "Teh Catman"

n/t

[Atman]

152. Or, if you're really hip...

"Cats."

[annabanana]

158. he has been prevailed upon to return

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018249856

(down in the thread)

[freshwest]

163. Hurray! Thanks for the good news.

[Dont call me Shirley]

172. No one will help take care of femrap's elderly mother; they must be alike.

I suggest she get in to a good psychotherapist right away. It will take her the rest of her life to repair the damage done from her upbringing.