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Probatim

(3,235 posts)
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 02:12 PM Aug 2024

Is Trump tanking his election chances on purpose?

Usually, when the title of an article is a question, the answer is always NO; however, I'm starting to wonder.

I've said this a few times here and it's been said elsewhere in this forum, but I honestly think Vance was selected to replace FFF 45 via the 25th Amendment.

He's the candidate of choice for hedge fund managers, crypto-bros, and, likely, close allies with the Project 2025 klan.

Is the plan to get FFF 45 re-elected, invoke the 25th, put Vance in charge, and lead America into the next great century (where things will be fixed so good, you'll never have to vote again)?

Does FFF45 know this? Has it wrecked his brain to the point of gibberish? Or is he just that stupid, lazy, and senile? Is it all of the above?

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Is Trump tanking his election chances on purpose? (Original Post) Probatim Aug 2024 OP
No, but it is showing that he had no plan B OnDoutside Aug 2024 #1
tRump even said that in one of his mumbling events...... a kennedy Aug 2024 #21
The problem I see with that theory subterranean Aug 2024 #2
Will his ego allow him to be relieved of duty? Probatim Aug 2024 #6
Of course not. He wants to stay out of jail, and the only way Ocelot II Aug 2024 #3
This is the clearest reason why the answer is "no," IMO. RockRaven Aug 2024 #5
NO Skittles Aug 2024 #4
Take Trump's passport away RussBLib Aug 2024 #7
and really who would care, less likely we'd ever hear from the orange piece of shit again. a kennedy Aug 2024 #22
No, he is utterly incompetent Mysterian Aug 2024 #8
No he is just proving what a fluke the 2016 win was. yellowcanine Aug 2024 #9
No. He's just more delusional now and doesn't listen to anyone. Lonestarblue Aug 2024 #10
Another one of these moot, gee whiz questions that really doesn't matter. SWBTATTReg Aug 2024 #11
ouch Probatim Aug 2024 #13
Nah, I just think he can't get out of his own way...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2024 #12
He's a raging narcissist. chowder66 Aug 2024 #14
No he's now the worst candidate ever and will get crushed like the cockroach he is Tribetime Aug 2024 #15
The majority of the GOP wants him and his cronies gone... Chakaconcarne Aug 2024 #16
Why would he possibly do that? Makes zero sense FrankBooth Aug 2024 #17
Blowing Smoke Out His Ass got him this far in life. He is doing what he does, Emile Aug 2024 #18
I've wondered that myself. But he needs the leftyladyfrommo Aug 2024 #19
No. obnoxiousdrunk Aug 2024 #20
he knows it's over JuJuChen Aug 2024 #23
I admit, I thought the same for a short while canetoad Aug 2024 #24

OnDoutside

(20,862 posts)
1. No, but it is showing that he had no plan B
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 02:17 PM
Aug 2024

Plan Biden as it were. They're throwing everything at the wall to see what'll stick so they're bound to find something, but hopefully not yet !

a kennedy

(35,556 posts)
21. tRump even said that in one of his mumbling events......
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 05:05 PM
Aug 2024

something about all my resources were in beating slow joe, (now......I don’t remember the rest), but he doesn’t have a plan B.

subterranean

(3,750 posts)
2. The problem I see with that theory
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 02:20 PM
Aug 2024

is that if he's tanking his election chances on purpose, he is less likely to get elected, so the plan won't work.

Ocelot II

(129,726 posts)
3. Of course not. He wants to stay out of jail, and the only way
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 02:20 PM
Aug 2024

he can be sure of that is to win the election. His problem is that he's a lunatic and a moron and he has no idea how to run a winning campaign now that he has an unexpected adversary. And his ego would never allow him to do something that would make him look like a loser.

RockRaven

(18,934 posts)
5. This is the clearest reason why the answer is "no," IMO.
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 02:25 PM
Aug 2024

TCF needs the power and privilege of the presidency to shield him from the consequences of his prior criminal behavior. He needs it personally, another Repug having that same power doesn't provide the same benefits to TCF.

a kennedy

(35,556 posts)
22. and really who would care, less likely we'd ever hear from the orange piece of shit again.
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 05:07 PM
Aug 2024

But.....ya never know. I JUST WANT HIM GONE. so sorry for yelling.

Lonestarblue

(13,340 posts)
10. No. He's just more delusional now and doesn't listen to anyone.
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 02:33 PM
Aug 2024

He needs to be elected so he can cancel all his federal trials and convince Republican officials in Georgia to cancel the state trial. I cannot see him dropping out or allowing Vance or anyone else to replace him.

SWBTATTReg

(26,144 posts)
11. Another one of these moot, gee whiz questions that really doesn't matter.
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 02:33 PM
Aug 2024

But, with my 2 cents, I'll venture a guess that (1) djt has a long history of failures, still does it too, by running literally nonstop w/ the selling of goods nonstop, stupid shoes, shirts and shit. Trying to always score a few bucks off his supporters (what few are left).

Project 2025 is now toxic as hell. No way any candidate running w/ this will ever get anywhere.

Vance as a viable running mate? He never was, and we can tell, he has the lowest favorability rating ever. Ever! Only tRUMP could pull this off, he wanted a pasty which is why I think (IMHO) he picked vance. vance must have done some shit to really impress the orange mango.

Is tRUMP mangling his election deliberately? No. He's not doing it on purpose. It's just in his nature (bankruptcies, loser profile, etc.). He doesn't listen to anybody, period. He's narcistic and can't do any wrong.

And Kamala is doing everything right. She's right on top of tRUMP's ignorant claims and texts w/ her own texts, emails, rapid-fire.
And she gives substantial speeches about her policies and such, vs. what the orange tango gives out, more hate, more idiot comments, more of the same junk. It'll be such a relief to get the idiot out of politics once and for all in early Nov. Like a lot of other people (and I hear this sentiment more and more), people are sick and tired of tRUMP. Literally sick and tired of him.

Chakaconcarne

(2,775 posts)
16. The majority of the GOP wants him and his cronies gone...
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 03:17 PM
Aug 2024

and they are seeing that Russia has too much power over the GOP...

I wouldn't be surprised if some within his campaign are egging on his behavior or just clearing the way for it to happen.

At the debate, Kamala should do everything possible to set him off in front of the entire country.

FrankBooth

(1,849 posts)
17. Why would he possibly do that? Makes zero sense
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 03:33 PM
Aug 2024

He desperately does not want to go to jail, and becoming President is the surest way of making sure he doesn't. It's really that simple. Even entertaining your theory, I don't see how 'tanking' his own campaign helps JD Vance become president. Doesn't that just make it more likely Trump loses the election and Vance doesn't become president?

Regardless, all these posts about Trump dropping out or in some way purposefully sabotaging himself are silly. He's not dropping out, they aren't removing him, and he's not purposefully sabotaging himself. The damage he's doing to his own campaign is because his long standing mental issues are worsening and becoming harder and harder for his handlers to hide.

Emile

(41,380 posts)
18. Blowing Smoke Out His Ass got him this far in life. He is doing what he does,
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 03:43 PM
Aug 2024

just like most rich assholes. Blow that smoke out their ass. I worked for a lot of these phony SOB's during my life.

canetoad

(20,400 posts)
24. I admit, I thought the same for a short while
Fri Aug 16, 2024, 05:12 PM
Aug 2024

But in 2016 I thought trump was enacting a parody of republicans and would reveal himself as a moderate before long. How wrong was I?

You've contradicted your own theory by saying that he needs to get elected first, before handing off to Vance, whom I agree, is a repub dream president.

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