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[Srkdqltr]

1. What? Am i missing something? How is that a shot?

[pat_k]

11. This may provide some insight

His comment could be read as looking down on Walz for being so ready to serve the role as VP to Harris in whatever way V.P. Harris wished. Shapiro was more about negotiating the role he wanted to play.

How a low-key Midwestern governor shot to the top to be Harris’ VP pick

Tim Walz was in the midst of his interview with Vice President Kamala Harris’ vetting team when he told them there was something important they needed to know.

He doesn’t use a teleprompter, the Minnesota governor said. He doesn’t even have one, in fact. So if he was the pick, Walz said, Harris’ team would have to get him a teleprompter and teach him how to use it.

But Walz made it clear he would be a team player.

Asked how he saw his role as VP, Walz said he would perform the job however Harris wanted him to. . . asked if he had ambitions to run for president himself one day, Walz said he did not, a point that sources said was not lost on a team looking to minimize the potential for any internal drama in a future Harris administration.

“He had a very clear understanding that it was to be a partner. . .

“It was a home run," . . .

Shapiro. . . did not go over as well with Harris’ team. . . (He) struck some as overly ambitious, with “a lot of questions” about what the role of the VP would be. . .

Walz was seen as a pick that would come with less drama and palace intrigue. . .

“It was a striking contrast” between the two, said the source. . .

. . . In the end, the bigger hurdle for Shapiro was his face-to-face meeting with Harris, where he posed “very specific” questions about the role of a vice president. . .

“He was negotiating the job with her, while Walz was saying ‘What can I do to help?’” . . .

[stopdiggin]

27. thanks. that was more insight and 'insider' info than I really had any access to ... -(nt)-

[onetexan]

29. Great analysis. Shapiro isn't someone who would be happy playing second fiddle

After PA he should run for POTUS. He is that good but he is an alpha. A forest cannot be ruled by 2 tigers, as the asian saying goes. Shapiro will have his turn one day. In the meantime let him take care of PA.
I love his impressive background and gravitas. He's someone who can punch the likes of Josh Hawley or Ted Cruz or any of the RW losers on the other side.

[stopdiggin]

24. that's what you call a a relatively 'backhanded compliment'

"for what Harris is looking for" - is going to be read in most cases as a 'qualifier' - plainly implying the possibility (in fact probability) - of better ...

[msongs]

2. well thats one opinion nt

[Ocelot II]

3. I didn't get that at all.

[pat_k]

16. See post upthread

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219355149#post11

[Jack Valentino]

4. Why repeat what you perceive as a negative comment?

Just sayin'.

[Claustrum]

5. LOL no.

[Scrivener7]

6. Lol! Lots of brandy new posters posting how Democrats are divided tonight.

Which, by the way, is bullshit.

[Betty Boom]

13. Oh, get over yourself

I was a Democrat while you were still in diapers, most likely.

[Scrivener7]

15. Lol! Keep digging.

[oregonjen]

14. And misspelling Walz's name.

[Scrivener7]

18. Yep.

[Betty Boom]

19. And I didn't say anything about Democrats being divided

I am thrilled with this campaign. But that doesn’t mean that as a long time political observer, and a keen viewer of politicians from personal experience, that I Don’t know a shot when I see a shot. We would do well to stop blowing sunshine up each other‘s butts and face the fact that this is going to be a hard fought campaign no matter how we are feeling now.

I found his statement unnecessary and unacceptable. A Politician that skillful says what he means. It was a shot and it affects the way that I feel about him

[Scrivener7]

22. Oh, so keen!

[madaboutharry]

7. There was an article shortly after the VP announcement that discussed the pick.

It was posted somewhere here. It seems that Gov. Shapiro did not do well in his interview, coming off as someone who would overshadow VP Harris in her job as president. The people involved in the interviewing process were put off by his personal ambition.
Gov. Shapiro is a talented politician, I don't see him as suited for a supporting position. He will have his turn. This wasn't the on ramp for him.

[Betty Boom]

9. Exactly

That is what the others who have replied are missing. I’m guessing they did not read that article or were unaware of that. I stand by my opinion that it was a very subtle shot.

[emulatorloo]

31. So subtle that it was non-existent. I didn't hear anything negative.

[pat_k]

21. See excerpts from the article I think you are referring upthread

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219355149#post11

[madaboutharry]

26. Yes, that was the article.

And it also debunks the bullshit lie Trump is trying to peddle that Shapiro was passed over because he is Jewish.

[Deuxcents]

8. I watched the interview n that's nothing what I heard..he was very supportive

And excited for this election. 🗳️

[Cha]

10. That's Ridiculous.. Why are you taking a "shot" At PA Gov Shapiro ?

[MustLoveBeagles]

12. I didn't get that from him

[spanone]

17. bye betty boom

[Tribetime]

20. IMHO I didn't see it that way I thought he was great

[doc03]

23. You have quite an imagination to take that as a shot IMO nt

[LisaL]

25. He saying that Harris made a wonderful VP choice.

That's not a shot at anything. And yes, he is ambitious, but that is a good thing.

[OAITW r.2.0]

28. Hi Betty....are you new at this?

Looking forward to your future OP's.

[snowybirdie]

30. Never met

a politician who wasn't ambitious. Shapiro is a future we need. The next generation is accruing the experience needed for then.

[Srkdqltr]

32. Ok so i misunderstood, you are saying Shapiro

Was not picked because he was too ambitious. That makes sense.
And Walz was looked at as a team player.

[MLAA]

33. Could be, if the article I read about how 'staff' viewed his interview with Kamala went vs how Walz approached it.

according to unnamed ‘staff’ was accurate/true. Shapiro was interested in what the job would be like in terms of independence, ie what would it do for me and Walz approached it with how can I help you. Who knows if that is what really transpired since, again as my sometimes faulty memory recalls the assessment of the interviews were from unnamed staff.

[stopdiggin]

34. It was a shot for sure.

You don't just use this kind of language by accident. It might not have qualified as the worst slam anyone has ever heard uttered. But, there was a rather big, "But" worked in there ... And these guys use words as tools ... (sometimes scalpels)

[Betty Boom]

36. Thank you

Sometimes I need to remember that there are people who are rather naïve about politics on this site

[ZonkerHarris]

35. The only toxicity I see here is from you. You don't come off well in the OP and the edit is even worse.

consider deleting the OP and starting over with this very Democratic and protective community.
Your defensiveness in the edit is very anti-DU, towards the site and members.
If you are a Democrat like you say, and know it enough to criticize it so much after joining 36 days ago, then you should understand why our members are wary of the very dangerous trolls that attack this site, right?
Reread the TOS of this site (term of service, the rules)
if you think you can't abide by the terms perhaps this isn't the place for you to hang and support the Democrats you say you have been voting for a long time.