Revoke all permits for protests immediately

[angrychair]

The protestors have made it clear they are only there to cause chaos and hurt people and damage property.
Cancel all permits and clear the area before people get hurt.

We don't need another 1968 playing out on live TV. The stakes are to high and it's literally just the first day and they are already turning violent.

[Think. Again.]

1. How very.... UnAmerican.

[angrychair]

2. They are already breaking through the gates

And people have been hurt.

The last thing you want is another 1968 playing out on live TV. Fucking TSF and the Republicans would burn us alive and could hurt the VPs poll numbers.
We cannot afford any issues.

[scipan]

51. Demonstrations fine. Violence not okay. So no, don't revoke their permits. That's not who we are.

IMO of course.

ETA: the first thing that attracted me to the Dem party was how raucous they were AT THEIR CONVENTIONS.

That was when I was a preteen.

The second thing was their advocation for the underdogs.

[Silent Type]

3. You think they'll just walk away?

[Oopsie Daisy]

4. Yes!

[Eko]

5. At first I thought that was reporting on something

dump had said recently.

[LexVegas]

6. Those that support terrorism have rights too. This is America. nt

[Iggo]

19. Yep, just as many rights as those that support genocide.

God bless America.

[edisdead]

37. Fuck that.

Those that support terrorism are likely to engage in it. FUCK THAT.

[LexVegas]

45. Fair point. nt

[Sky Jewels]

64. Like Netanyahu's terrorism and decimation of Gaza

Genocide:FUCK THAT.

[still-prayin4rain]

61. Nope

[Eko]

7. Looks like they have everything under control.

No need to take away everyone's freedom to protest.

Live feed of the fence.

[angrychair]

10. They became violent

Given how critical this is we cannot afford to let it become out of control or a circus.

We cannot allow that violence to hurt her poll numbers. we cannot let the news media stories be about violent protests and push the convention to a side story because the news media would live that to happen.

[Eko]

14. I'm sorry but we dont cancel all protestors for the actions of what, a dozen? two dozen peoples actions.

Out of thousands? That is not us. We are the party of rights. We arrest the troublemakers and move on. I thought I knew where I was.

[angrychair]

21. Sorry I disagree

They agreed to certain conditions to get their permit and they violated those conditions. They have proven they cannot be trusted to protest peacefully. We cannot afford another 1968 of violent protests to become the story and the news media would love nothing more

[MarineCombatEngineer]

22. Well, luckily, your disagreement doesn't mean squat with those in charge

of security.

[Eko]

29. Thanks.

Have a beer on me.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

31. Thanks,

I'll have that beer when I get off the road.

[Eko]

33. When will that be?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

35. Hopefully,

this coming weekend, hoping to get a load headed back to S. AZ. after I drop this load in St. Louis tomorrow.

[Eko]

38. Keep on keeponing.

Eko

[Cha]

65. Safe travels MCE!🕯️🕊️💙🌊🇺🇸🌈

[Eko]

25. With that logic

All of the BLM protests would have been illegal.

[angrychair]

32. Burning down buildings

And killing people is not protesting.

If we wait until that is happening then the news media and Republicans have already won because they will crucify Democrats.

I don't give a shit about those protestors, I only care about VP Kamala Harris becoming president.

[Eko]

34. So you were against the BLM protests.

Noted.

[angrychair]

39. No I'm against

Allowing these people to protest but just not to hurt the election. I truly don't give a shit about them. I only care about VP Harris getting elected. That is all that matters.

[Eko]

46. Noted.

You are not a protector of rights when it gets in the way of your political goals.

[angrychair]

47. There are no more "political goals"

If trump becomes president. The only thing I care about is VP Harris winning and controlling Congress and the Senate.
If that shutting down protestors, that have already shown they cannot be trusted to keep their agreement with the city, fuck them.

[Eko]

48. But dump is not president.

So, yes, you have political goals and are willing to abandon our rights when it gets in the way of them.

[angrychair]

50. Violent protests is NOT a right

They did that. They showed they cannot be trusted. They showed they would not hesitate to use violence.

[Eko]

52. That is why the ones that broke laws

got arrested. The ones that didn't, didn't. What percentage are you good with committing unlawful actions to shut down a protest? 1.2%? That is good enough for you?

[angrychair]

53. I don't care if it's one person

We cannot take the chance to let this become a media circus.
We are so close. I don't want to lose this election because we decided to play nice with a bunch of people cheering for Hamas to kill people.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

55. I see, revoke the permits for those that are obeying terms of the permits.

That's exactly what the repigs would do.

[Solomon]

62. Have another beer on me. I can't believe this op.

Somebody take the shovel away!

[Eko]

56. I am not willing to take away the rights of a thousand or more

because of the actions of a dozen or two for us to win. To me that seems antithetical to the beliefs of the Democratic party. But hey, you do you.

[edisdead]

40. A lot of them were

And that’s fine. I have no problem with that so long as people understand there are repercussions for doing something illegal while protesting. Good trouble as it is known.

[Eko]

49. Yup.

[Jack Valentino]

8. Mayor Daley?

In case you don't remember, or are not old enough to remember,
he called all the protesters there who were against the Vietnam war, "terrorists"...


Democrats are big enough to hear dissent,
without trying to shut it down.

It won't matter. Chill.

[angrychair]

15. Protest ars fine

Breaching the gates and attacking people is not protest.
We cannot afford this to become 1968 and dominate the news cycle.

[Autumn]

9. No, let's don't. They have it under control. nt

[angrychair]

13. Obviously they don't

Because it's literally only been a couple hours and they are already breaching the gates.

You don't stop it now then the violence becomes the story and not the convention.

I don't want a violent convention to hurt her poll numbers or become ads for Republicans

[MarineCombatEngineer]

18. Chill out,

LE has it under control.
You don't cancel protest permits just because a relative few have caused some problems.

[edisdead]

41. Wait we are trusting LE?

The same LE that we know has ties to white supremacists?

I don’t want to shut down anyones rights, but when you disobey the agreement of your permit there are repercussions. If there is injury or worse it needs to be shut down. Immediately. Or there will be stupid and senseless injuries or worse.

[Autumn]

23. Obviously they do. There is no hell raising going on in the convention.

Relax. They have this. Enjoy the show. Kamala took my breath away when she walked out.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

26. Listening to her now, I have chills running down my back, good chills.

VP Harris is a gifted orator who has nothing but positivity in her message.

[Autumn]

30. Seeing her literally took my breath away. I listened to her and cried like a baby.

Never in my life have I felt to much love and hope in any political event.

[David__77]

11. Related to this: "Gaza's IVF embryos destroyed by Israeli strike"

When an Israeli shell struck Gaza's largest fertility clinic in December, the explosion blasted the lids off five liquid nitrogen tanks stored in a corner of the embryology unit.

As the ultra-cold liquid evaporated, the temperature inside the tanks rose, destroying more than 4,000 embryos plus 1,000 more specimens of sperm and unfertilized eggs stored at Gaza City's Al Basma IVF centre.

The impact of that single explosion was far-reaching -- an example of the unseen toll Israel's six-and-a-half-month-old assault has had on the 2.3 million people of Gaza.

…

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/5000-lives-one-shell-gazas-ivf-embryos-destroyed-by-israeli-strike-2024-04-17/

[Beastly Boy]

68. Don't know how you propose to relate this to the OP, but it smacks of the

Project 25 "unborn children" narrative MAGATs are trying to push on the country.

[Maru Kitteh]

12. Don't cancel, move them to some nothing parcel of shit land outside the city.

That's better than they deserve. Fuck those useful idiot twits.

[onandup]

16. The protests are a dud, tbh

Couple thousand people. The "breach" really didn't amount to much.

[soandso]

59. And I didn't see any violence

Cop put back a fence panel they'd removed and they all just stood there while he did.

[Iggo]

17. That's just weird.

[Ping Tung]

20. Are the cops rioting like they did in '68?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

24. No, they aren't,

they're being very professional so far and, this isn't 1968, it' 2024, a very different time.

[redwitch]

27. No.

As long as the protests are peaceful they have the right.

[angrychair]

36. They are already not peaceful

They literally breached the gate. We cannot afford any mistakes. These people start killing people and burning down buildings it could literally cost us the election.

[soandso]

60. Except there was no violence

Maybe you're thinking of pre-crime.

[angrychair]

63. They rammed through fencing

And we're absolutely trying to destroy stuff.
We cannot afford to let their violence become the story this week.

[edisdead]

43. Sorry but if they left the area that they had a permit for

Sorry but if they left the area that they had a permit for and breached an area that they are not supposed to be in, the. Revoke their permit and arrest all of those that come back. And keep arresting them until they go home.

[Groundhawg]

28. That is very undemocratic.

[angrychair]

42. No, trump is undemocratic

And if we let protestors loot and burn and hurt people that is what the likely outcome will be. I mean they were breaking shit within hours of it starting.

We cannot afford to let them turn the news media against is by making the protest the main event and not the convention.

[edisdead]

44. Agreed nip it in the bud.

IaThey have the right to protest. They do not have the right to break shit and to disobey what their permit allows.

[iemanja]

58. Who is covering it?

I’m on CNN and all I see is convention.

BTW, what you are demanding in talking away free speech rights is precisely Trump’s America.

The police are there to deal with law breaking, but that is not what you or the OP are demanding. You want an end to protests because you think they make Democrats look bad. Repress them and then Democrats will look really bad, and hypocritical on top of it.

[LeftInTX]

66. They breached a fence, but it didn't get too out of control.

I think they dispersed shortly after the arrests.

I hope the fence is more secure tomorrow.

[iemanja]

67. Sounds like they handled it appropriately

No reason for alarm.

[LeftInTX]

70. Also Charlie Kirk was on the convention floor this afternoon. Someone must have given him their press credentials

A young Dem called him out. I'm sure he was there to cause trouble.

[The Grand Illuminist]

54. Confliction of serving the greater good.

Both sides points are right. These are desperate times.

[iemanja]

57. There is something called democracy

You are demanding Trump’s America.

[BannonsLiver]

69. *crazed antisemites

[BigDemVoter]

71. I remember 1968 very well.

And the problems at the DNC lost us the election. If revoking permits for violent action is what it takes to avoid **$$Y-Grabber, then that's that.