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Trump is on the phone with the PM of Israel urging him not to cut a deal right now (Original Post) Travel Hat Aug 2024 OP
America second! Me first! KPN Aug 2024 #1
Arrest the traitorous piece of shit Charging Triceratops Aug 2024 #2
If this report is true.., Squaredeal Aug 2024 #29
is that legal????? n/t gay texan Aug 2024 #3
Of course not. unblock Aug 2024 #6
No. THe Logan Act prohibits foreign negotiations FoxNewsSucks Aug 2024 #7
As Stated Above, No. GB_RN Aug 2024 #20
NO. But good luck getting garland to get off his ass. onecaliberal Aug 2024 #26
WTAF!?! That's ought to get him lock up right now!! Sogo Aug 2024 #4
If he were a Democrat, it would. FoxNewsSucks Aug 2024 #8
A Republican candidate working to keep Americans hostage longer unblock Aug 2024 #5
If true it is a violation of the Logan Act JohnSJ Aug 2024 #9
Hmm. Dick Nixon sandbagging President Jimmy Carter comes to mind Hekate Aug 2024 #10
Actually, That Was Hubert Humphrey Who Was Sandbagged..... The_Counsel Aug 2024 #13
It was Reagan who sandbagged Carter with the Iranians and the hostage negotiations. tetedur Aug 2024 #14
TY for the correction. Reagan was another soulless crook -- but he sure could act the kindly uncle part Hekate Aug 2024 #16
Most likely carried out by Bush Sr since St. Raygun wnylib Aug 2024 #22
The criminal Traitor-Turd has just committed another treasonous Felony Crime! Tarzanrock Aug 2024 #11
One crooked pol to another- "let's grift together" RainCaster Aug 2024 #12
K&R UTUSN Aug 2024 #15
Make it stick! speak easy Aug 2024 #17
This is s big deal kacekwl Aug 2024 #18
That's treason. evolves Aug 2024 #19
I believe it but where's the beef? I want proof n/t Cheezoholic Aug 2024 #21
So what's going to happen? disappearingboy Aug 2024 #23
Treason. AGAIN! joanbarnes Aug 2024 #24
An Israeli-Palestinian agreement would be a good, but not absolutely necessary thing, for President Harris but, jaxexpat Aug 2024 #25
3 weeks ago at Mar-a-Lago.... riversedge Aug 2024 #27
Lock him up Golfnbrew Aug 2024 #28
Setting up "Cease Fire Week" perhaps? Zambero Aug 2024 #30
Despicable if true, but is it true? DavidDvorkin Aug 2024 #31
How do we know that? Tickle Aug 2024 #32

Squaredeal

(711 posts)
29. If this report is true..,
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 04:22 PM
Aug 2024

Joe has the obligation to have him arrested. The Supreme Court agrees with his presidential powers and will have to support him, based on their recent decision, Do it Joe, for the sake of the country! We’re counting on you to do the right thing.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,546 posts)
7. No. THe Logan Act prohibits foreign negotiations
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 12:21 PM
Aug 2024

by unauthorized parties.

Apparently, though, that only applies to Democrats. Republicons violate it all the time and nothing ever happens to them.

GB_RN

(3,531 posts)
20. As Stated Above, No.
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 03:15 PM
Aug 2024

The Logan Act has been on the books since 1799. And in the 225 years since its enactment, very few have been charged/indicted for a violation, and none have been convicted. In light of that fact, and that Cantaloupe Caligula is also a major party’s candidate for president - not to mention we’re now in the DoJ’s 90-day before election window - I don’t think he’ll even be indicted for it, much less convicted.

So, as far as the Logan Act having legal repercussions, it’s like a dog without teeth: All bark, no bite.

The_Counsel

(1,756 posts)
13. Actually, That Was Hubert Humphrey Who Was Sandbagged.....
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 12:39 PM
Aug 2024

...but it was Tricky Dick perpetrating that. Lyndon Johnson even confronted him about it and Nixon basically lied to his face. Johnson didn't want to come off as partisan and left it alone. He should have jailed his ass. We likely don't get Watergate, and we probably don't get the four year crime spree that was the Trump administration, either. Watergate showed them that "if the President doesn't, it isn't illegal," dontchaknow....?

tetedur

(1,411 posts)
14. It was Reagan who sandbagged Carter with the Iranians and the hostage negotiations.
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 12:48 PM
Aug 2024

Hostages were released 20 minutes after Reagan was inaugurated. That was the beginning of Iran-Contra.

wnylib

(25,355 posts)
22. Most likely carried out by Bush Sr since St. Raygun
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 03:20 PM
Aug 2024

was not the sharpest mind on that ticket and Bush was former CIA Director.

 

Tarzanrock

(1,250 posts)
11. The criminal Traitor-Turd has just committed another treasonous Felony Crime!
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 12:25 PM
Aug 2024

If anyone ever had any "doubts" whatsoever about the criminal Turd being a "Traitor" to the United States of America -- here is your answer to whatever lingering "doubts" which may have existed. Is there more despicable treasonous conduct than this? This strikes me as a criminal violation of the Logan Act.

The Turd is a private citizen and as a "private citizen," the Turd has "no authority" whatsoever to involve himself in negotiations with the leaders of foreign governments. This is a Federal Crime!

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799) is a United States federal law that criminalizes the negotiation of a dispute between the United States and a foreign government by an unauthorized American citizen.

RainCaster

(13,444 posts)
12. One crooked pol to another- "let's grift together"
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 12:37 PM
Aug 2024

Biden needs to speak to the people of Israel directly. "We will not support a country that tries to interfere in our elections".

kacekwl

(8,986 posts)
18. This is s big deal
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 03:15 PM
Aug 2024

This guy should be charged immediately if there is any truth to this. Do we have any law enforcement working for America anymore ?

disappearingboy

(87 posts)
23. So what's going to happen?
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 03:21 PM
Aug 2024

Though I'm sure the answer is that this will cost Vice President Harris the election in some way, shape, or form since Loser Donald will make hay with this and say that "if they broke that promise, think of what other promises a Harris administration would break." Or maybe I was just dreading the other shoe dropping because of something like this.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
25. An Israeli-Palestinian agreement would be a good, but not absolutely necessary thing, for President Harris but,
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 03:51 PM
Aug 2024

were Bebe to parlay with the Palestinians it would DEFFINITELY complicate and compromise the progress of plans for an exclusive luxury enclave development on the Gazan Mediterranean coast. Who needs that, you ask? Well where else will the scions of sheiks and emirs indulge their pathetic hubris, spend their money and wield their wealth after the Iranians and climate change have made the Arabian Gulf states socially passe and lethally uninhabitable.

Here's where the really sets in:

I mean, many among the burgeoning generations of super wealthy Arabs are asking, "where am I expected to park my yachts or my harem if I can't live in a civilized environment and control, at least, the local government?" or "what good is a HOA without gate guards armed with swords?"

Still, there are criminal element Americans who envision their place in history as harbormasters for those yachts and harems. Like a King Kushner who promises to keep the Philistine rabble in check (or at least those left after Uncle Bebe and his henchmen gives them object lessons on who runs this place). There's work to be done and no time for dealing them in or, heaven forbid, allowing them any territorial control. This Harris person is a real threat to progress.

Golfnbrew

(78 posts)
28. Lock him up
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 04:06 PM
Aug 2024

Re: Logan Act breech

Not supposed to "crime" when you're out on bail. Recind all privileges and remand to pre-sentencing custody!

Zambero

(9,935 posts)
30. Setting up "Cease Fire Week" perhaps?
Tue Aug 20, 2024, 04:44 PM
Aug 2024

As in "Infrastructure Week"? A designated week where people with zero interest in resolving complex problems and issues posture away while chit chatting and pretending to give a rats as, while offering no more than lip service to the weeks' subject matter, and then close out the proceedings letting things continue to go to hell in a handbag, as intended.

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