STUDY: Age Reversal Pill WORKS In Dogs The Kyle Kulinski Show

[anglesphere]

I hope this ends up working because I'd like to see many of you here stick around for as long as possible.

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[Oopsie Daisy]

1. I'd take it...

[anglesphere]

9. Looks like an interesting plot

I'm going to put aside some time to watch this. Thanks!

[Oopsie Daisy]

13. I missed it entirely when it was in theaters...

... but we rented and streamed it from Amazon Prime (there are two versions... look carefully and rent the one with the "DVD extras"... the behind the scenes stuff was interesting.)

[anglesphere]

18. Thanks (nt)

[WarGamer]

16. a wonderful movie, watched it 10x

[anglesphere]

19. That makes

three recommendations. Thanks.

[Midnight Writer]

2. They should go ahead and try this right away on some terminal patients, like Jimmy Carter.

What have they got to lose?

[anglesphere]

4. It's worth a shot (nt)

[bucolic_frolic]

3. All economic activity would be devoted to the pills and population would explode

No way they will let this happen. It would be a chaos pill.

[anglesphere]

5. If people knew they would live longer

perhaps they would delay having children longer and maybe population wouldn't explode?

[bucolic_frolic]

15. Ha! Fecundity would be a 40-75 year period of life

Just rejuvenate the machinery and pop out another batch!

[anglesphere]

20. They have to introduce a 3 baby max

to avoid resource depletion.

[bucolic_frolic]

21. Using government to limit freedom? That's what we're fighting against. /nt

[anglesphere]

22. So we don't try to extend human lifespan? (nt)

[Liberal In Texas]

6. Yeah, I don't know.

When you google TELOMIR to see what they actually are, what kind of structure in the body a telomir is, you pretty much just get hits about this company and even the death of the CEO of the company - not a great recommendation.

You'll have to prove to me this isn't snake oil until I would take it, or even give it to one of my dogs.
https://www.morningstar.com/news/globe-newswire/9202830/telomir-pharmaceuticals-mourns-the-passing-of-chairman-and-ceo-dr-christopher-chapman

[anglesphere]

12. The video said research

was continuing despite Dr. Chapman's passing. So I guess we'll see where it goes.

[Dave Bowman]

32. The structure in the body is called "telomere".

[Liberal In Texas]

47. No wonder I couldn't find it. They spell it with an i - telomire.

[DavidDvorkin]

7. Hope, hope, hope...

[tinrobot]

8. Not into trusting whatever that influencer is saying.

Before we get too excited here - is there a link to a peer-reviewed scientific study?

[jcgoldie]

10. I don't want to live that long but I'd give my cat one

If she could share more years with me.

[anglesphere]

14. Clinical study here

Hasn't been peer reviewed, though.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.02.26.581616v1

[LisaL]

31. The study in your link is not the correct study featured in the OP.

Different medication. Different authors.

[anglesphere]

35. Apologies

I'll try to track the right one down when I have more time

[LisaL]

36. There is no right one to track down.

Nothing has been published or even posted on bioxriv as of now.

[Xavier Breath]

11. Why didn't the good doctor just take his own pills?

[anglesphere]

17. Had to chuckle at this

even though it's probably too soon.

That was my first unexpressed thought when I heard he died, though.

[Disaffected]

23. Lotta red flags here.

They may be on to something but:

. big improvement within a day or two?

. claimed to successfully treat both old age, cancer and arthritis?

. no mention of side effects (virtually every medical treatment has side effects)

. not peer reviewed

. no apparent control animals (i.e. within a randomized, placebo controlled, blinded trial)?

. just hand out the stuff to a non-clinician to try it?

IOWs, has the unpleasant taste of snake oil.

[anglesphere]

24. Expecting life-saving medicine to also

taste good seems a little entitled to me.

j/K

[Disaffected]

42. Well, it's the least they could do.

[LisaL]

33. Her dogs were not a part of the trial.

But it seems kind of bizarre to me as to why/how she would get her dog with cancer approved for un-tested pill which was being tested not as an anti-cancer drug but as an anti-aging drug? As we all know, young people can get cancer too. So anti aging is certainly not the same as anti cancer.

[Disaffected]

43. IIRC there was some handwaving about

the new telomers creating stem cells which somehow make one youthful and cure cancer, somehow.

[LisaL]

44. If I developed medication that could cure cancer and reverse aging,

I would want to have more than one dog to prove it works. There has been nothing published on this study as far as I can tell.

[Disaffected]

46. Yes, extraordinary claims require

extraordinary evidence which we do not have here.

[ananda]

25. Boy, I need that!

Old age sucks in so many ways!

[anglesphere]

28. Life extension is dream extension

There's so much I still have to do.

[Think. Again.]

26. I wonder why there were no videos of those two dogs before the treatments?

[anglesphere]

29. I think there was of the first dog

There was a brief shot of the first dog lying on a table being administered something.

[Think. Again.]

30. Yes, a still photograph, I think this pill needs a litle more actual verification of effectiveness.

[LisaL]

38. Her dogs aren't even a part of the study.

Sounds like she got access to this medication for compassionate use. Which doesn't make much sense to me, since the medication wasn't even being studied as an anti-cancer drug.

[Think. Again.]

39. Yeah, as hopeful as I'd like to be, that video just seems sketchy to me.

[LisaL]

40. Yea, it is pretty weird.

I even looked on the company's website, and as far as I can tell, this medication is not even being tried as an anti-cancer drug.
Why would she get approved for compassionate use for a dog with cancer? And how would is start working in a matter of days?

[Think. Again.]

41. And pharmaceutical companies don't usually do public outreach/exposure before their product...

...has even been clinically trialed.

[LisaL]

45. I would think so.

There is nothing actually published in peer-reviewed journals on this study about this supposedly miracle drug as far as I can tell.

[0rganism]

27. Such medicine could tear societies apart even as it preserved individual lives indefinitely

Don't get me wrong -- I'd be inclined to take it myself, but there be dragons...
How do we value children when the need for replacement population radically drops?
Entire populations effectively addicted to a drug for their extended lifespans. What happens if the drug effects suddenly reverse or resistances develop in frequent users?
This could easily be the framework for a dystopian sci-fi series.

[anglesphere]

34. I suspect we'll cross those bridges

when we come to them as all of life's problems.

But I imagine the advantages will be too great to put aside.

[MustLoveBeagles]

37. Bookmarking