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Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 11:12 AM Aug 2024

Andrew Weissmann: "Is it just me, or is this the best friggin convention we have ever seen?"



Andrew Weissmann (weissmann11 on Threads/Insta)🌻
Party conventions usually are scripted, "life-like," deadly bores - regardless of party.
Is it just me, or is this the best friggin convention we have ever seen? Inventive, inspiring, energizing.


It hit a home run!
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Andrew Weissmann: "Is it just me, or is this the best friggin convention we have ever seen?" (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Aug 2024 OP
I'm 65 and it's the best I've ever seen. bullimiami Aug 2024 #1
Hear, hear. I never thought anything could top the '92 DNC. peppertree Aug 2024 #28
Agree. mzmolly Aug 2024 #36
Wasn't it though. My favorite, I must admit, was Zell Miller peppertree Aug 2024 #38
Zell Miller was great. mzmolly Aug 2024 #43
Remember when Zell said he wanted to challenge Tweety to a dual? NoSheep Aug 2024 #48
Oh - that's right. By then he had pretty much turned coat, sadly. peppertree Aug 2024 #49
yeah...ye ole likker NoSheep Aug 2024 #68
As they often say in the Deep South: peppertree Aug 2024 #69
that's a good one! NoSheep Aug 2024 #70
Why, thank you. peppertree Aug 2024 #71
I'm 75 and I've never watched a convention. BonnieJW Aug 2024 #31
Mr. Weissmann North Shore Chicago Aug 2024 #2
Wow! My opinion too. rockbluff botanist Aug 2024 #3
For Weissmann to make that statement is awesome!! wordstroken Aug 2024 #21
Made the some comment last night - Andrew is one intelligent guy!!! FHRRK Aug 2024 #4
It's kind of blowin' me away.... How do they possibly top last night? Chakaconcarne Aug 2024 #5
I would be willing to bet Tim Walz has a couple meme's tucked away. gordianot Aug 2024 #30
I'm 71. I've seen them all since the late 50s. They used to be on all day when I was a child. badhair77 Aug 2024 #6
But back then they would actually cover the nuts and bolts displacedvermoter Aug 2024 #12
And, remember, they had only weeks to reframe the convention to support Harris instead of Biden. Lonestarblue Aug 2024 #66
Somebody last night opined that this was displacedvermoter Aug 2024 #67
That was my reaction on the first night PatSeg Aug 2024 #7
Filling two arenas & connecting the two events was masterful!!! CrispyQ Aug 2024 #8
Our leaders are bringing their A game to take the country back. D23MIURG23 Aug 2024 #9
In my mind, I don't think anything can top 2008. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #10
That was awesome.... but I don't think even that can top what we've seen this year. NT Happy Hoosier Aug 2024 #14
That's cool. I disagree. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #18
I agree. johnnyfins Aug 2024 #22
Exactly. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #27
"there's still a decent chance Trump somehow pulls this off" - if not winning the election, erronis Aug 2024 #39
Loving it! Wild blueberry Aug 2024 #11
Nicely written - I feel your vibes. erronis Aug 2024 #40
Definitely. I had planned to give it a miss. Happy Hoosier Aug 2024 #13
My 17th Cirsium Aug 2024 #15
It absolutely is! ananda Aug 2024 #16
Hell yes!! Much more diverse, fun, YOUNG, energetic & vibrant with uplifting messages of hope and moving forward onetexan Aug 2024 #17
Have watched these conventions since I was a youngster. I remember mostly male faces, almost ALL white, Attilatheblond Aug 2024 #25
Wow! Your thoughtful post brought tears to my eyes also. Joy again. erronis Aug 2024 #41
Thank you, erronis. Mostly, it's just lived experience, shared in hopes of inspiring Attilatheblond Aug 2024 #50
Thank you for this comment. It made my day. n/t. NNadir Aug 2024 #57
And you made mine. Attilatheblond Aug 2024 #58
I totally agree about the DJ! He's so awesome, and what a great way to set up the roll call! That was so much BComplex Aug 2024 #47
Yes. It's 2008 but more - ms liberty Aug 2024 #19
Going to be a tough act to follow in 2028 relayerbob Aug 2024 #20
Having any convention at all in 2028 TommyT139 Aug 2024 #44
That's a good point relayerbob Aug 2024 #45
I don't know . . . moreland01 Aug 2024 #23
I agree, but I think the last 3+ years have also been filled with positive actions erronis Aug 2024 #42
The DNC has to be COMMENDED for the Roll Call of States PARTY!!! ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2024 #24
Gonna be hard to top, 2nd Gentleman, Michelle, and Barack...... a kennedy Aug 2024 #26
Jamie Harrison was not taking any chances yobrault1 Aug 2024 #29
It's a good one! I'd change a few things, but I'd happily give it 4.5 stars. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #32
It is the best rollout to convention I've ever seen Jarqui Aug 2024 #33
It's not just you SpankMe Aug 2024 #34
The best mzmolly Aug 2024 #35
This is the best, but, the most exciting I think was the 1968 convention. Who knew what was going to happen next. LiberalArkie Aug 2024 #37
Well, I still love the old ones best with all the spontaneity but of the modern ones this is the best friggin' one!! nt Peregrine Took Aug 2024 #46
Do you remember when the delegates used to marybourg Aug 2024 #64
Oh it's pretty goddamned AWESOME Blue Owl Aug 2024 #51
Out of the PARK!! Cha Aug 2024 #52
Damn straight... ultralite001 Aug 2024 #53
I feel like I'm mainlining joy. Nt lostnfound Aug 2024 #54
This is the first one I've actually watched Elessar Zappa Aug 2024 #55
I agree with Andrew LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #56
I remember 1968 joanbarnes Aug 2024 #59
Indeed, yes! Wednesdays Aug 2024 #60
OMG yes Hekate Aug 2024 #61
A resounding yes I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2024 #62
I just remembered the White House Convention of 2020. SleeplessinSoCal Aug 2024 #63
The enthusiasm, the positive energy! Aussie105 Aug 2024 #65

peppertree

(23,336 posts)
28. Hear, hear. I never thought anything could top the '92 DNC.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 12:47 PM
Aug 2024

But our guys and gals proved me wrong!

peppertree

(23,336 posts)
38. Wasn't it though. My favorite, I must admit, was Zell Miller
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 01:38 PM
Aug 2024

I feel bad saying that, because he later turned coat - that old boozer.

But his Zell zingers were something else.

The one I always remember was his line against Perot:

"Sounds to me like instead of shaking the system up, Mr. Perot's been shaking it down!"

Ross quit the very next day.

mzmolly

(52,792 posts)
43. Zell Miller was great.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 01:52 PM
Aug 2024

My favorite moment however was the reunion of Fleetwood Mac. Don't Stop captured the hopeful vibe of that time, perfectly.

https://watch.weta.org/video/dont-stop-iponiu/

I played the song to death in the Bush years, when I needed an emotional boost.

peppertree

(23,336 posts)
49. Oh - that's right. By then he had pretty much turned coat, sadly.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 04:37 PM
Aug 2024

There was an ugly meanness to him by 2004.

Of course though, hard liquor will do that to people eventually.

peppertree

(23,336 posts)
69. As they often say in the Deep South:
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 06:01 PM
Aug 2024

We've got a dry county - and the drunks to prove it.

BonnieJW

(3,124 posts)
31. I'm 75 and I've never watched a convention.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 12:52 PM
Aug 2024

I watched this one and I'm so glad I did. I was either grinning, crying, or dancing. The roll call? A party.

rockbluff botanist

(360 posts)
3. Wow! My opinion too.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 11:16 AM
Aug 2024

For someone as buttoned down as Andrew Weissmann to almost use bad language, well, just WOW!

Chakaconcarne

(2,787 posts)
5. It's kind of blowin' me away.... How do they possibly top last night?
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 11:18 AM
Aug 2024

...and I thought that after the first night...

badhair77

(5,179 posts)
6. I'm 71. I've seen them all since the late 50s. They used to be on all day when I was a child.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 11:20 AM
Aug 2024

I’ve been so exhausted with politics this past year I wasn’t going to watch but I was sucked in on Mon and this is the best.

displacedvermoter

(4,491 posts)
12. But back then they would actually cover the nuts and bolts
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 11:30 AM
Aug 2024

Last edited Wed Aug 21, 2024, 12:50 PM - Edit history (1)

of the Convention, including disputes over accreditation of delegates (no longer a thing normally) platform hearings (which now get hammered out well in advance) and other matters people don't want be to bothered with any more. I always found that fascinating, but the whole process has changed now, and coverage is now as shallow as everything else the media present.

I forgot to say, Hell Yes!, this is the best Convention I ever saw. Whoever is running this is a genius, and deserves both a Cabinet spot and an Emmy!

Lonestarblue

(13,474 posts)
66. And, remember, they had only weeks to reframe the convention to support Harris instead of Biden.
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 08:34 AM
Aug 2024

An impressive result!

displacedvermoter

(4,491 posts)
67. Somebody last night opined that this was
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 08:45 AM
Aug 2024

a political convention and "not a concert" with some concern. But, you know, people actually watch concerts, and remember them!

(Truth be told I don't remember a lot of concerts I went to 🙄 when I was younger!!!)

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
8. Filling two arenas & connecting the two events was masterful!!!
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 11:23 AM
Aug 2024
Take that, crowd size Donnie!!

D23MIURG23

(3,138 posts)
9. Our leaders are bringing their A game to take the country back.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 11:23 AM
Aug 2024

I'm very proud of my party and my country right now. The Democratic party and those who don't want a dictatorship of the rich and unfit are not going quietly.

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
18. That's cool. I disagree.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 11:51 AM
Aug 2024

2008 was truly special from my view. A historic, flawless convention with great speeches by Hillary, who was very graceful in defeat, Bill, Joe and of course, Obama on the final night (maybe the greatest convention speech of all time).

And to top it off, the tribute to Teddy Kennedy, who would die not long after, was extraordinary. Hearing him speak for the final time at that convention, pulling from his 1980 convention speech, will always stay with me as an unforgettable moment.

It also didn't hurt that I felt immense relief and confidence about that election. It truly felt like a celebration of what I knew was coming.

Unfortunately, while I still think Harris has a really good chance of winning, and imo is the favorite, it's not a slam dunk and the anxiety I have about this race does creep into my enjoyment.

johnnyfins

(3,767 posts)
22. I agree.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 12:12 PM
Aug 2024

Its almost as if Im waiting for the other shoe to drop. The dishonesty and horseshit from the other side has me worried. I am worried and hopeful. I guess thats better than just worried.

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
27. Exactly.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 12:47 PM
Aug 2024

As much as I want to enjoy this, and I am, it's still in the back of my mind that there's still a decent chance Trump somehow pulls this off.

Funny enough, it's probably the first convention since 2004 where I am not really confident we'll win.

As I said, 2008 felt like a celebration of what was to come.

I felt good in 2012.

Definitely felt good at the convention point in 2016.

Was very confident four years ago.

But today? Definitely worried. Like you, worried and hopeful but worried nonetheless.

erronis

(23,869 posts)
39. "there's still a decent chance Trump somehow pulls this off" - if not winning the election,
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 01:39 PM
Aug 2024

then jamming the gears of the election and democracy. With help from other greedy people such as Thiel, Putin, Murdoch, Koch, etc.

Wild blueberry

(8,295 posts)
11. Loving it!
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 11:26 AM
Aug 2024

Feel as though it's a whoosh of healing energy after all the destruction of the Carnage years and aftermath, like we have collective PTSD. Everything about this convention, the superb speeches, and the deep bench of great Democratic talent is cheering, enlivening, and refreshing. We've needed positive energy, and this convention has it blowing out the rafters and into our homes. Agree with Andrew Weissman!
Thank you.

Happy Hoosier

(9,533 posts)
13. Definitely. I had planned to give it a miss.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 11:38 AM
Aug 2024

But it is actually pretty awesome. Whoever ran this event needs a prominent role herding cats in the Harris admin... they know how to get stuff done!

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
17. Hell yes!! Much more diverse, fun, YOUNG, energetic & vibrant with uplifting messages of hope and moving forward
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 11:48 AM
Aug 2024

and unity, and most importantly, NOT GOING BACK!! The producers of the show did a great job, and that DJ - i can't say enough how fun that roll call was

Attilatheblond

(8,876 posts)
25. Have watched these conventions since I was a youngster. I remember mostly male faces, almost ALL white,
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 12:28 PM
Aug 2024

and some funny hats. It didn't look the the America I knew from walking around my multi-cultural neighborhood. No, didn't look like it at all.

Slowly, painfully slowly, the DEM conventions changed. A few more women, the occasional person of color, but it still didn't quite look like my America, the one I saw, the one I knew outside our door.

I am old now, and come from a line of women who fought for rights from back when my grandma couldn't vote. My daughter carries the fight on her narrow shoulders, and has since she was 14 and researched for a paper on sex education and reproductive freedom. We marched for Planned Parenthood and reproductive rights, at her suggestion, when she was 15. She signed us up to be on call to guard the boundary of the PP Clinic, and shield clinic visitors from protesters the week the court ordered ban on such protests was lifted. And we were among the many who held that border line many MANY times, shoulder to shoulder, a human privacy screen. We sometimes sang Amazing Grace when the hostile, angry protesters failed to sing their hymns in those early Saturday morning hours. That really pissed them off, the very fact that, yes, we knew the words.

But still then, the DEM Convention, while improved in looking more diverse, still had a ways to go.

Last night, watching with my now middle aged daughter, I tried to keep my face turned to the TV at an angle from her sight, lest she see the tears running down my face. Then she mentioned the diversity, the energy, the HOPE. Ah! She noticed the change too, and she has always paid attention.

Yes, thinking back to what I remembered from all the decades of watching, I was thinking the same thing. THIS looks like my AMERICA! This was the America I knew and loved. And I almost felt the hands of my mother and grandmother on my shoulders. I could almost hear them: FINALLY!

Yep, a mighty fine convention we have going on. While I am mindful of the many ways the Oligarch owned GOP has planned for, and intends to steal this election from the voters' hands, my depression is lifting.

The fight is on, but what an army we have to wage it!


Attilatheblond

(8,876 posts)
50. Thank you, erronis. Mostly, it's just lived experience, shared in hopes of inspiring
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 05:05 PM
Aug 2024

or at least making someone laugh, or shed a tear of understanding.

I hope that mentioning the 4 generations of women in my clan who engaged in various ways will remind us all to salute the generations before us and encourage the generations after us.

Someday, remind me to tell you about my grandmas death, on Missouri's primary election day in 1960. The old girl did indeed 'die with her boots on'.

BComplex

(9,912 posts)
47. I totally agree about the DJ! He's so awesome, and what a great way to set up the roll call! That was so much
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 02:44 PM
Aug 2024

fun!!! Nobody has ever dreamed of doing it that way before!!

ms liberty

(11,237 posts)
19. Yes. It's 2008 but more -
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 12:06 PM
Aug 2024

But maybe I say that because as a woman, it is. So much more.
And it feels young and new and lighthearted. And fun. It's genius. Whoever planned this has it going on.

moreland01

(870 posts)
23. I don't know . . .
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 12:18 PM
Aug 2024

I cried my eyes out in 2008 (Obama) and in 2016 (Hillary) watching those inspiring conventions.

This one hasn't made me cry as much (I will admit to some tears, especially after hearing from the women who was impregnated at 12 by her scumbag father), but it sure has me jumping up and down, cheering and smiling so much my face hurts. All the positive feels.

I keep resisting allowing my mind to drift back to how it felt on that night and following morning of November 8th. Like, I don't want to get my hopes up just to be slammed back to the ground.

The last 8 years has been so deflating, disappointing, demoralizing . . . just awful . .. realizing what kind of people we share this country with.

Here's to hoping that FINALLY, after an overwhelming win for the Harris/Walz campaign, the MAGAts crawl back into their hidey holes for the rest of eternity.

erronis

(23,869 posts)
42. I agree, but I think the last 3+ years have also been filled with positive actions
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 01:45 PM
Aug 2024

and a glimpse of what is possible when the magats/republicans are steam-rolled out of the way.

Thanks to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris!

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,895 posts)
24. The DNC has to be COMMENDED for the Roll Call of States PARTY!!!
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 12:21 PM
Aug 2024

Close to an hour of non-stop EXCITEMENT and JOY filled with celebrities, rousing intro speeches, uplifting music, and more!

BRILLIANT move on the part of the DNC organizers!!

a kennedy

(35,971 posts)
26. Gonna be hard to top, 2nd Gentleman, Michelle, and Barack......
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 12:32 PM
Aug 2024

They were just perfect for this convention. Gonna be very hard to top them.

yobrault1

(204 posts)
29. Jamie Harrison was not taking any chances
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 12:49 PM
Aug 2024

and pulled out all the stops for this convention. He deserves a lot of kudos as does the crowd for their sustained energy.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
32. It's a good one! I'd change a few things, but I'd happily give it 4.5 stars.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 12:54 PM
Aug 2024

EDIT: I thought that Patti Labelle was marvelous! A bittersweet moment.

Jarqui

(10,908 posts)
33. It is the best rollout to convention I've ever seen
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 12:55 PM
Aug 2024

Short as it has been ...
But what they have done is remarkable - haven't missed a beat

I'm not sure about the 2008 convention.
I waited about 40 years for that one and never campaigned harder to that point.
They're both special

LiberalArkie

(19,798 posts)
37. This is the best, but, the most exciting I think was the 1968 convention. Who knew what was going to happen next.
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 01:35 PM
Aug 2024

I mean, wasn't Mike Wallace arrested? Who was going to be beat up by the the inside storm troopers?

If it was a movie, no one would believe it.

Peregrine Took

(7,583 posts)
46. Well, I still love the old ones best with all the spontaneity but of the modern ones this is the best friggin' one!! nt
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 02:01 PM
Aug 2024

marybourg

(13,640 posts)
64. Do you remember when the delegates used to
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 01:16 AM
Aug 2024

“Snake-dance” around the perimeter of the (much smaller) arena holding up pillar signs for their candidates? That was when the actual voting for the nominee took place at the convention.

Blue Owl

(59,086 posts)
51. Oh it's pretty goddamned AWESOME
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 05:11 PM
Aug 2024

Celebrating Joe's last four years along with his legacy career as one of America's greatest senators and VPs, and now transitioning to a bright future full of FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY with our next generation of fabulous Democratic leaders....

















































Elessar Zappa

(16,385 posts)
55. This is the first one I've actually watched
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 05:50 PM
Aug 2024

so I can’t compare it to others, but this one is certainly exciting and inspiring. I’ve enjoyed all the speakers, especially the Obamas.

joanbarnes

(2,119 posts)
59. I remember 1968
Wed Aug 21, 2024, 06:27 PM
Aug 2024

So I had grave misgivings, especially when Biden “stepped down,” but I could not be more proud of my Hometown, Chi Town!

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
63. I just remembered the White House Convention of 2020.
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 12:28 AM
Aug 2024

It was a travesty. Downright third reich-like. Tons of flags and not a true patriot in sight. I still don't understand how it was allowed, other than breaking the law and rules are a mainstay of the GOP.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/rnc-2020-day-4/index.html

Aussie105

(7,914 posts)
65. The enthusiasm, the positive energy!
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 05:54 AM
Aug 2024

Coming at you in waves, you can feel it through the TV.
What must it be like to be actually there?
Unending, almost overpowering energy, enthusiasm, optimism, the ultimate Trump antidote!

Bottle it, sip it sparingly until November!

The pent-up frustration with Trump and his evildoers is released, their power over us is now no more than an irritation to be sneered at.

Or to coin a phrase or two:

There is light at the end of the tunnel!
Tomorrow will be better than yesterday!

etc

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