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SocialDemocrat61

(7,776 posts)
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 07:04 AM Aug 2024

Is seems members of the National Uncommitted Movement

are staging a sit in outside the convention because they aren’t being allowed to address the convention. Unfortunately, they don’t seem to know about the longtime policy that you have to support the nominee in order to address the convention.

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Is seems members of the National Uncommitted Movement (Original Post) SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2024 OP
Let them have their own goddamn convention. The party of the uncommitted Walleye Aug 2024 #1
They need to support the party first newdeal2 Aug 2024 #5
There are only 30 uncommitted out of 4,700 delegates... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #2
So you're saying that Harris is wrong SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2024 #3
Where the hell did you get that from??? Think. Again. Aug 2024 #4
Just asking a question for clarification SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2024 #6
Yes, I agree that once a candidate is nominated... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #10
The uncommitted can speak out wherever they want, just not at the convention. mucholderthandirt Aug 2024 #7
There had been discussions even after the convention started to have a Palestinian-American address the convention. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2024 #8
I guess genocide with US weapons is a touchy subject. orthoclad Aug 2024 #11
Or maybe, and hear me out.... Happy Hoosier Aug 2024 #13
"the other guy is a monster" is no excuse orthoclad Aug 2024 #14
You misunderstand my post. Happy Hoosier Aug 2024 #19
That Word You Use, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think The Magistrate Aug 2024 #16
Do you consider yourself more aligned with Uncommitted than the party/ticket? BannonsLiver Aug 2024 #20
Had Demonstrations Not Sported Sinwar Portraits and Chanted His Slogans, They Might Have Got It The Magistrate Aug 2024 #15
Well, I'm still angry that the Democrats haven't supported the movement struggle4progress Aug 2024 #9
+1 dalton99a Aug 2024 #17
Who? Move on from these dead-enders. NT Happy Hoosier Aug 2024 #12
"Uncommitted" or those voting "Present" got all the attention they deserved during the roll call. lees1975 Aug 2024 #18

newdeal2

(5,503 posts)
5. They need to support the party first
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 07:23 AM
Aug 2024

As far as I’m concerned, they are a 3rd party and not supporting or planning to vote for the Dem nominee. Why should they get time?

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
2. There are only 30 uncommitted out of 4,700 delegates...
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 07:11 AM
Aug 2024

...yes, everyone's voice should always be heard, but this is DEMOCRATIC politics, such a vast majority voting FOR Harris will be heard much louder.

SocialDemocrat61

(7,776 posts)
3. So you're saying that Harris is wrong
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 07:13 AM
Aug 2024

for not allowing people who don’t support her candidacy to address the convention?

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
4. Where the hell did you get that from???
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 07:21 AM
Aug 2024

You certainly didn't get it from my post.

Do you think it's even possible to allow anyone who wants to speak at the DNC to do so?

And Harris, or anyone, even as President, would have no right to stop anyone from "addressing the election" just as the uncommitted are doing at their sit-in.

SocialDemocrat61

(7,776 posts)
6. Just asking a question for clarification
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 07:31 AM
Aug 2024

I think only those who support the nominee should be allowed to address the convention so was confused about the point of your first post.

So you agree that those who don’t support Harris should not be allowed to address the convention?

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
10. Yes, I agree that once a candidate is nominated...
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 08:51 AM
Aug 2024

...all Party-related activity and statements should serve to get that nominee elected.

That being said, the "uncommitted" are only the delegates who voted "present", and that is exactly what a convention is for, to take a vote and decide on the nominee, so a unanimous opinion is going to be rare.

Edit to add:

Perhaps I was confused by your post too, when you said " address the ELECTION", I believe it is everyone's right to say what they think about our elections. You have revised that to "address the convention", which is a different topic.

mucholderthandirt

(1,789 posts)
7. The uncommitted can speak out wherever they want, just not at the convention.
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 07:45 AM
Aug 2024

Despite what that idiot Republican on CNN thinks, the convention isn't about laying out details of the policy, it's for building enthusiasm for the candidates and get people voting in the election. And Harris has laid out how she thinks things will get paid for, ignorant Scott whatever his name is: the rich and corporations will finally pay their fair share of taxes. That alone is all that's needed.

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,077 posts)
8. There had been discussions even after the convention started to have a Palestinian-American address the convention.
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 07:51 AM
Aug 2024

The sit-in began last night when the word finally came down and it was no.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
11. I guess genocide with US weapons is a touchy subject.
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 10:04 AM
Aug 2024

Similar to when the US armed the Saudis with weapons used for Yemeni genocide.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
14. "the other guy is a monster" is no excuse
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 10:36 AM
Aug 2024

for monstrous behavior.

Do you think it would get T elected to show sympathy for victims of genocide?

Or would this sympathy draw more votes for the Blue?

Happy Hoosier

(9,558 posts)
19. You misunderstand my post.
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 11:01 AM
Aug 2024

It's not that I think we can;t show sympathy to victims of war. It's that I don;t think we should give the stage to someone who is likely to spew Antisemetic bullshit to the world in the name of Democrats.

If you think Democrats are "monstrous," Perhaps you should consider if you are in the right party for you.

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
16. That Word You Use, I Do Not Think It Means What You Think
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 10:41 AM
Aug 2024

Here's an example of genocide....

In 1933, there were fifteen millions of Jews in the world. In 1945, there were nine millions.

Here's an example of not genocide....

In 2012, the population of Arab Palestine was about four and a quarter millions, In 2024 (now) the population is about five and a half millions.

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/state-of-palestine-population/

The Magistrate

(96,043 posts)
15. Had Demonstrations Not Sported Sinwar Portraits and Chanted His Slogans, They Might Have Got It
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 10:37 AM
Aug 2024

But the 'pro-Palestine' demonstrators have be-clowned themselves past accommodation. The taint touches all, even public figures who may not have themselves said or done anything so repellent.

struggle4progress

(126,443 posts)
9. Well, I'm still angry that the Democrats haven't supported the movement
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 07:57 AM
Aug 2024

to make my best friend's peanut-porkrind-avocado-marzipan-mustard crunch the national cereal

But where's the press coverage?

lees1975

(7,097 posts)
18. "Uncommitted" or those voting "Present" got all the attention they deserved during the roll call.
Thu Aug 22, 2024, 10:46 AM
Aug 2024

"Present" isn't a vote that stands for anything specific. So their vote, which took place weeks ago, was announced. The Palestinian concerns over the Gaza War have been addressed by Harris, she spoke to the "leadership" of the movement that showed up in Detroit, and acknowledged her willingness to talk to them, and her sympathy toward their cause with the limits she has on herself, and her candidacy, as far as policy goes. Apparently, that particular leadership is not acknowledged or accepted by all of those involved, and their sympathies and demands go well beyond realistic expectations.

They have no stronger ally, in the Presidential administration, or among anyone running for President, than Kamala Harris.

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