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senseandsensibility

(24,973 posts)
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 03:47 PM Aug 2024

On the off chance that anyone on this board doesn't understand the privilege given

to white males, look at what has happened just in the last few hours. Right now, two absolute drooling idiots and moral degenerates are commanding press attention, and one is a candidate for President with a decent chance of winning!

NEVER, never would a minority male or a woman of any race with so little to offer be seen by anyone as worthy of attention.

And yet, our nominee Kamala Harris just gave a truly historic acceptance speech at the convention. She's a master communicator and an intellectual giant. But it's not enough. She must answer questions according to the corporate media's schedule because she may not be able to handle whatever it is they decide is important. There is no way she will be judged equally when she does do such an interview. We all know that.

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On the off chance that anyone on this board doesn't understand the privilege given (Original Post) senseandsensibility Aug 2024 OP
"Right now, two absolute drooling idiots and moral degenerates are commanding press attention" just like flies on shit. FSogol Aug 2024 #1
to be fair Skittles Aug 2024 #2
While it may be mostly R's who give cheato a pass senseandsensibility Aug 2024 #4
oh I have ZERO doubt white males have many privileges Skittles Aug 2024 #10
I agree senseandsensibility Aug 2024 #11
many white men ROCK Skittles Aug 2024 #12
fear poozwah Aug 2024 #30
I'll definitely agree. I succeeded in most of my life because I am white, apparently exude confidence, erronis Aug 2024 #15
some privilege is gained simply by being a member of a class. but to really do it well, you have to leverage it unblock Aug 2024 #7
It's the goppers who get the white man's pass over all Democrats BaronChocula Aug 2024 #18
I've said it many times Skittles Aug 2024 #24
Her privilege remarks are so multilayered cachukis Aug 2024 #3
Her speech and delivery last night senseandsensibility Aug 2024 #5
i don't think it's a coincidence that two of the most incompetent white men have been involved in unblock Aug 2024 #6
Very good points senseandsensibility Aug 2024 #9
At the time Obama got elected, I felt it was the perfect storm... crud Aug 2024 #14
Yes; and... whites are becoming a minority yet still wield acutely asymetrical power CoopersDad Aug 2024 #8
The white privileged uber-wealthy males... rubbersole Aug 2024 #16
What the OP says id not only true for holding political office, Mr.Bill Aug 2024 #13
I feel enraged that our fucking system is stacked Sky Jewels Aug 2024 #17
Post removed Post removed Aug 2024 #19
Of course not! leftieNanner Aug 2024 #20
What did I miss? senseandsensibility Aug 2024 #22
A Poster Chose Poorly ProfessorGAC Aug 2024 #23
Stupidly thought he was cracking wise. He thought he could slam Joe Biden. marble falls Aug 2024 #29
I must say it is so damned irritating how far we have NOT evolved Brenda Aug 2024 #21
Kamala Harris is not dumb. Mr. Evil Aug 2024 #25
Does anyone understand which group white males most want to oppress? Warpy Aug 2024 #26
I hear ya Brenda Aug 2024 #28
They view white women as more of a status threat than men that aren't white. haele Aug 2024 #33
That should be "an INdecent chance of winning' Maeve Aug 2024 #27
The Harris/Walz campaign is making the mainstream media, corporate owned and biased toward PatrickforB Aug 2024 #31
You nailed it brother. The decent chance of winning part scares the hell out of me. OverBurn Aug 2024 #32
THIS !! The people who own the M$M relate more to TFG than Harris uponit7771 Aug 2024 #34

FSogol

(47,623 posts)
1. "Right now, two absolute drooling idiots and moral degenerates are commanding press attention" just like flies on shit.
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 03:59 PM
Aug 2024

Skittles

(171,704 posts)
2. to be fair
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 04:01 PM
Aug 2024

no male Democrat could behave like Trump and be taken seriously in any way, no matter WHAT their color

senseandsensibility

(24,973 posts)
4. While it may be mostly R's who give cheato a pass
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 04:05 PM
Aug 2024

they have a lot of power thanks to the electoral college. But culturally, there is a certain "respect" that white males are generally given, especially if they act like know it alls and exude confidence. A woman or man of color who did that with nothing to back it up would be laughed off the stage before their career could even start.

Skittles

(171,704 posts)
10. oh I have ZERO doubt white males have many privileges
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 04:33 PM
Aug 2024

but ANY Democrat behaving like Trump would have been "laughed off the stage" BY DEMOCRATS

senseandsensibility

(24,973 posts)
11. I agree
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 04:36 PM
Aug 2024

and just to be clear, I am married to a white male who is self-deprecating inspite of being very intelligent and talented, and who admires and respects women. Of course he's a Dem.

poozwah

(413 posts)
30. fear
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 12:56 PM
Aug 2024

the fear of losing their white privilege is what is driving the maga movement. having to compete with “the other” scares the hell out of them.

The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is rapidly fadin'
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'
Source: LyricFind
Songwriters: Bob Dylan

erronis

(23,872 posts)
15. I'll definitely agree. I succeeded in most of my life because I am white, apparently exude confidence,
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 04:44 PM
Aug 2024

can talk about many subjects as if I know a lot about them (don't) - a model WASP.

However, I have f'd up so many times in so many ways. I walked around the embodiment of the "imposters syndrome" - knowing I was 80% fake.

unblock

(56,198 posts)
7. some privilege is gained simply by being a member of a class. but to really do it well, you have to leverage it
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 04:18 PM
Aug 2024

by leveraging privilege i mean not just *being* white, male, etc., but also exercising and defending those privileges, pushing for more privilege, reminding people of those privileges, and extending the power of privilege.

thanks in large part to republican "identity politics" (as much as the whine about it, that's what they're all about), the republican philosophy is all about leveraging privilege, and the democratic philosophy is largely about combatting that.

so a white male democrat is white and male, sure, but is seen in some respects as a traitor to his class or privilege box by siding with blacks and women and so on. essentially, he forfeits a lot of that extra privilege that is needed for the highest office in the land.


the one thing donnie is is pure privilege. his incompetence, stupidity, and lack of a moral compass work in his favor by making him a pure beacon of privilege. so for people who like the concept of privilege, there's no better leader than someone whose accomplishments can't be attributed to anything other than pure privilege.

BaronChocula

(4,553 posts)
18. It's the goppers who get the white man's pass over all Democrats
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 05:08 PM
Aug 2024

White male Democrats aren't given the same white man's pass as republicans. In the old South there was a term for any white male who was seen as betraying their race. It was a hyphenated word, the second part being "lover." That term isn't used anymore, but many white Americans still see things the same way. I posted yesterday how Democrats, white male or otherwise, aren't given the credit they deserve while republicans get all the credit they don't deserve (economy, national security, etc.). It's because those white Americans assume that a (basically) all white party is more competent at solving America's problems. It's just part of the American DNA.

Skittles

(171,704 posts)
24. I've said it many times
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 05:39 PM
Aug 2024

Repukes are treated like white men while Democrats are treated like women / POC - we have to be twice as good to be considered half as good

cachukis

(3,933 posts)
3. Her privilege remarks are so multilayered
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 04:04 PM
Aug 2024

the average person will miss them. It will be parsed over time as the recognition by a black woman of how she has taken the responsibility of white privilege and elevated to American privilege.
It is a courageous leap of confidence that has been waiting for this moment.
So happy to have been witness to the shade thrown at those who will never acknowledge it even if they even recognized it.

senseandsensibility

(24,973 posts)
5. Her speech and delivery last night
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 04:06 PM
Aug 2024

was like watching history happen. This speech will be studied and watched fifty years from now and more.

unblock

(56,198 posts)
6. i don't think it's a coincidence that two of the most incompetent white men have been involved in
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 04:09 PM
Aug 2024

the acendency of obama and hopefully harris to the presidency.

we all know women and minorities have to work twice as hard for half the reward, but even that's not enough.

obama was a once-in-a-lifetime leader, and once he got won the nomination over hillary (who certainly would have made an excellent president and just had the bad luck to run against obama's big moment), he should have sailed into the oval office.

and i suppose he did, though it was never a landslide. but early on, shrub was such a disaster that the powers that be made it clear that the only real battle for the presidency that cycle was the democratic primary. shrub was just so awful and tanked the economy there was just no way a republican was winning.

dumb luck of timing as well for mccain, who was one of the better republicans (very low bar, i'll admit)....


and now harris is running against donnie, who somehow makes shrub look competent and normal.

i don't think it's coincidence that shrub's incompetence paved the way for a black man and donnie's incompetence is now paving the way for a black/indian woman.

that's taking away nothing from the incredibly high standards to which obama then and harris now perform. but i agree, privileged people and those perceived as the guardians of privilege have incredible advantages, and they have to really screw up for someone with less privilege to win.

i mean, donnie with zero experience won over hillary, the most experienced and qualified candidate ever. literally everything donnie has ever accomplished in his life he owes to privilege. he certainly doesn't have anything else to offer.

crud

(1,256 posts)
14. At the time Obama got elected, I felt it was the perfect storm...
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 04:44 PM
Aug 2024

When Hillary got the nomination, I was hoping we could bury the Racist wing of America...send them back to their hideyholes.

We have another chance, and it's looking like the perfect storm again.

CoopersDad

(3,330 posts)
8. Yes; and... whites are becoming a minority yet still wield acutely asymetrical power
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 04:24 PM
Aug 2024

As a percentage of the whole, Magats are a minority, whites are drifting away from being the majority, but somehow the media channels and wealth are running the narrative irreversibly in Trump's favor.

Seriously, what the fuck?

rubbersole

(11,222 posts)
16. The white privileged uber-wealthy males...
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 04:56 PM
Aug 2024

...aren't going to go away quietly. This is the political "industrial revolution" with the masses up against unlimited money. Gen Z will emerge from the dust with democracy in their hands. It's what kind of permanent damage the old dinosaurs will cause as their cold dead fingers are pried off the levers of power.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
13. What the OP says id not only true for holding political office,
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 04:38 PM
Aug 2024

it's also true for most professions. Hopefully, Kamala will prove it to be wrong.

 

Sky Jewels

(9,148 posts)
17. I feel enraged that our fucking system is stacked
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 05:00 PM
Aug 2024

in favor of Republican scum, especially the white males, including one who attempted to violently overthrow the government.

Response to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Brenda

(2,054 posts)
21. I must say it is so damned irritating how far we have NOT evolved
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 05:23 PM
Aug 2024

To have to witness this kind of white privilege and male privilege decade after fucking decade.

And to have to hear in 2024 the same damned shit women and minorities heard in the 1950's is disgusting!

Thanks for the post sense.

Mr. Evil

(3,457 posts)
25. Kamala Harris is not dumb.
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 05:47 PM
Aug 2024

Not by any stretch that the Focksnoozes or Newsmaxes will try to construct. The corporate media will try to overwhelm her into a faux pas and force her to become a political version of Simone Biles that has to negotiate a plethora of flaming hoops to remain relevant.

I got news for them. They ain't gonna trip her up. Not once. Not ever!

Warpy

(114,614 posts)
26. Does anyone understand which group white males most want to oppress?
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:36 PM
Aug 2024

It's white women.

Think about that one, people.

Brenda

(2,054 posts)
28. I hear ya
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:57 PM
Aug 2024

They speak loudly to men, who are manly men, full of manly um, stuff.

But it's not even subtext anymore. Chump says he wants to protect the suburban mommies!

A convicted rapist, felon and on-tape joker about grabbing women by the pussy is WAIT FOR IT...

the best person to elect President.

haele

(15,395 posts)
33. They view white women as more of a status threat than men that aren't white.
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 03:40 PM
Aug 2024

Non white males will most likely follow the dude club rules, especially when it comes to the wealthy hierarchy; after all, the only color moneyed folks recognize is green. A wealthy black, latino, or Asian man is probably going to be just as interested in getting wealthier as white men with money.

However, they know most women in a position of power won't put up with dude-bro antics, even if they were greedy. And white women in power remind them of wives or mothers when they exert their power; they're more likely to make them look small in public.

Haele

PatrickforB

(15,425 posts)
31. The Harris/Walz campaign is making the mainstream media, corporate owned and biased toward
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 01:07 PM
Aug 2024

horseraces and gotchas as it is, irrelevant. Their social media director is instead pushing out messages to social media to attract young voters, minorities and others who simply don't watch news on CNN, ABC, NBC, etc. They don't. They don't attribute credibility to anyone on MSM and I mean anyone.

They get their news from Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, Reddit and so on, and they attribute the most credibility to Seth Meyers, John Oliver and Jon Stewart.

Seriously.

This is what my late-30s kids and their friends tell me, at least.

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