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angrychair

(12,285 posts)
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 05:40 PM Aug 2024

CNN caught manipulating its panels

MeidiasTouch has found out that CNN's panel of "undecided" voters had at least one plant. The one person that said they were supporting trump after watching VP Harris's acceptance speech is actually a trump supporter:

BREAKING: Last night after VP Harris' speech, one CNN "undecided voter" panelist said he'd now vote for Trump. We found his pro-Trump social media posts, including Trump's mugshot and disappointment that Mike Pence didn't overturn the election.



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CNN caught manipulating its panels (Original Post) angrychair Aug 2024 OP
Busted. underpants Aug 2024 #1
And they planted them Traildogbob Aug 2024 #2
God doesn't rape. He just immaculately injects his holy spirit into the (un)willing vessel. erronis Aug 2024 #69
I sometimes Traildogbob Aug 2024 #75
I knew it The Third Doctor Aug 2024 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Aug 2024 #25
code for "uppity" Tetrachloride Aug 2024 #48
You can't expect them to, you know, vet their handpicked 'undecideds' panel nt lostnfound Aug 2024 #4
It's crazy, right? Since when are "journalists" expected to have access to the internet? Or Carlitos Brigante Aug 2024 #7
CNN fraud again bucolic_frolic Aug 2024 #5
Big doofus mofo. Of course he'd be MAGA. oasis Aug 2024 #6
this other guy they had looked suspicious too PedroXimenez Aug 2024 #8
I see what you mean . Permanut Aug 2024 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author wcmagumba Aug 2024 #9
Of course. No rational undecided voter watches last night Thrill Aug 2024 #10
Did CNN purposely "plant" them, or are we calling the trumpster a "plant" because it was Silent Type Aug 2024 #11
It was CNN angrychair Aug 2024 #13
The most rational answer misanthrope Aug 2024 #29
Thanks for the suggestions. I usually go for either Harry's or Gillette, Abolishinist Aug 2024 #59
Very sharp reply. Shave and a haircut, two bits - for you.. erronis Aug 2024 #71
disagreed, a better explanation is they wanted balance PedroXimenez Aug 2024 #61
If CNN didn't do a basic check to see if they misrepresented themselves, is there really a difference? JHB Aug 2024 #14
For that kind of interview, I doubt anyone does a deep dive, costly, timely vetting. Silent Type Aug 2024 #15
You don't need to do a deep dive to find out a loudmouth hardcore Trump supporter. JHB Aug 2024 #18
Exactly, laziness misanthrope Aug 2024 #32
think you're probably right - in that 'plant' is probably an implication stopdiggin Aug 2024 #20
You require access to their social media Voltaire2 Aug 2024 #30
It's not like CNN is a multi-billion dollar corporation SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2024 #40
Well, exactly how much does it cost to type their name i to google, as niyad Aug 2024 #43
Did you actually try searching under "Bryant Rosado?" You get mostly Real Estate stuff because that's what he does. Silent Type Aug 2024 #44
So three mouse clicks counts as a deep dive these days? LuvLoogie Aug 2024 #50
There doesn't need to be a "deep dive" done, just cursory searchs uponit7771 Aug 2024 #57
As mentioned in Post #44, do a cursory search using their name. You won't find anything unless you do a deep dive. Vast Silent Type Aug 2024 #60
If that is the case kcr Aug 2024 #63
Scrolling through his X posts to hit paydirt took about 60 seconds onandup Aug 2024 #64
Don't need a "deep dive" SocialDemocrat61 Aug 2024 #65
Rosado has a very LONG history of tweeting Pro-Trump posts. Cnn did not vet him riversedge Aug 2024 #46
At the very least kcr Aug 2024 #62
Glad it's being highlighted, but lets remember this is nothing new JHB Aug 2024 #12
They need to apologize for their inadequate screening of the panel every hour of every day for the next week. beaglelover Aug 2024 #16
CNN has fallen a long way from 9-11, when my daughter called me from work & ordered me to turn them on Hekate Aug 2024 #17
lol. I knew something was off about him ecstatic Aug 2024 #19
Another "blacks for Trump?" Botany Aug 2024 #21
Drawn sides are what they are. czarjak Aug 2024 #22
Shocked, I tell ya. Not NewHendoLib Aug 2024 #23
The most parsimonious answer is that the panelist lied to CNN misanthrope Aug 2024 #24
Nobody on those things is undecided JI7 Aug 2024 #26
gee Corporate Media supporting the GOP IbogaProject Aug 2024 #27
Well, maybe the Trumpster lied to CNN iemanja Aug 2024 #28
On the other hand, this IS cnn we are discussing. niyad Aug 2024 #35
Those shitweasels are trying to make tRump fail upwards by any means possible Blue Owl Aug 2024 #31
Yawnnnnnnn. Colour me soooooo NOT surprised. niyad Aug 2024 #33
I'm shocked. Shocked I tell you. TomSlick Aug 2024 #34
CNN or CON? moondust Aug 2024 #36
I watched this morning. TNNurse Aug 2024 #37
Plant? Speaks2 Aug 2024 #38
There are only two possibilities angrychair Aug 2024 #45
Negligent Speaks2 Aug 2024 #54
I haven't watched CNN since Ted Turner sold them. Meadowoak Aug 2024 #39
Their credibility is zero. I'm sick of being gaslighted. Boomerproud Aug 2024 #42
As soon as he opened his fucking mouth Aviation Pro Aug 2024 #47
Undecided voters watching the Democratic Convention? Hmmm. Hmm. hay rick Aug 2024 #49
That did seem totally at odds with common sense and logic, considering the effect Uncle Joe Aug 2024 #51
Well, if you are going to search under his name, you won't get anything in first several pages beyond Silent Type Aug 2024 #52
Our unbi-ass news media. republianmushroom Aug 2024 #53
Ok. But is there also a possibility some were also pro Harris to begin with? Freethinker65 Aug 2024 #55
Sure, that is why CNN had an obligation to do at least minimal vetting. NT. Voltaire2 Aug 2024 #76
***THE M$M IS HELPING TRUMP !!!*** Without help from the M$M Trump would not be a reality host has been uponit7771 Aug 2024 #56
Just one more reason why Luck Counts Aug 2024 #58
Shocker. evemac Aug 2024 #66
CNN's reputation... GiqueCee Aug 2024 #67
same old stuff. AllaN01Bear Aug 2024 #68
I seriously doubt this is the first time dlk Aug 2024 #70
I know small town newspaper reporters Mysterian Aug 2024 #72
YeH they are Figarosmom Aug 2024 #73
Yeah whoever set up that "undecided" panel should be fired. yellowcanine Aug 2024 #74
Shame on CNN LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #77

Traildogbob

(13,018 posts)
2. And they planted them
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 05:45 PM
Aug 2024

A black one. Surprised they could not find a 14 year old rape victim that feels blessed by God for her coming Child.

erronis

(23,881 posts)
69. God doesn't rape. He just immaculately injects his holy spirit into the (un)willing vessel.
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 05:20 PM
Aug 2024

Ask Mary.

Traildogbob

(13,018 posts)
75. I sometimes
Sun Aug 25, 2024, 01:15 PM
Aug 2024

Try and imagine how Joseph dealt with it all. He never had sex with the Virgin, his wife, she tries to explain no penetration, not even the tip, and the public as a whole trying to believe the whole story.
Another question, does God have a penis, if so why?
And if you believe the whole tell, then God can not be female, right? If she is, where did the sperm come from, IVF? And ALL the God the Father stuff is Debunked.
And we always ask ourselves, how do people fall for the Jim Jones’s, the Davidian fools, and now why do people believe a word of trump?
Well, people have believed weirder shit from our beginning.

Response to The Third Doctor (Reply #3)

 

Carlitos Brigante

(26,848 posts)
7. It's crazy, right? Since when are "journalists" expected to have access to the internet? Or
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 05:55 PM
Aug 2024

personnel on the payroll that have to do........ What's that thing called?....... Research?!!

Response to angrychair (Original post)

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
11. Did CNN purposely "plant" them, or are we calling the trumpster a "plant" because it was
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:01 PM
Aug 2024

later discovered they were a trumpster.

I don’t believe anyone can be truly “undecided” at this point.

angrychair

(12,285 posts)
13. It was CNN
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:03 PM
Aug 2024

That called them "undecided voters" therefore it would be logical to assume they were undecided voters that were properly vetted for this very important segment.

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
29. The most rational answer
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:56 PM
Aug 2024

is a violation of both Hanlon's Razor and Occam's Razor.

CNN didn't bother to properly vet the panelists, which included this one who lied about his bias.

Abolishinist

(2,957 posts)
59. Thanks for the suggestions. I usually go for either Harry's or Gillette,
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 10:43 PM
Aug 2024

but I'll check these out!

OK, OK. I'm familiar with Occam's, but I must say not Hanlon's. So I looked it up, very interesting!

PedroXimenez

(673 posts)
61. disagreed, a better explanation is they wanted balance
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 07:31 AM
Aug 2024

everyone was positive toward Harris, they didn't want be accused of bias, so they went looking for someone they thought would be negative.

JHB

(38,213 posts)
14. If CNN didn't do a basic check to see if they misrepresented themselves, is there really a difference?
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:04 PM
Aug 2024
 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
15. For that kind of interview, I doubt anyone does a deep dive, costly, timely vetting.
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:12 PM
Aug 2024

I’d be ticked if they had some guy with a MAGA hat, but that is not what happened here.

JHB

(38,213 posts)
18. You don't need to do a deep dive to find out a loudmouth hardcore Trump supporter.
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:20 PM
Aug 2024

Just as in past iterations of these panels, it's been easy to find out that the "ordinary undecided person" had been active in their state or local Republican party for years.

But somehow, nobody does so much as a Google search beforehand.

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
32. Exactly, laziness
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:58 PM
Aug 2024

Hanlon's Razor: Don't ascribe malice when incompetence will suffice.

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
20. think you're probably right - in that 'plant' is probably an implication
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:26 PM
Aug 2024

that will fail hold up when it comes to solid evidence. Slipshod and a bit lazy, yes. But ...

Also think - you're simply not going to win any debates with this crowd. "It's CNN !" So, of course ...

SocialDemocrat61

(7,647 posts)
40. It's not like CNN is a multi-billion dollar corporation
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 07:17 PM
Aug 2024

with huge financial resources that can afford to do a ‘costly’ internet search.

Oh right, they are.

niyad

(132,440 posts)
43. Well, exactly how much does it cost to type their name i to google, as
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 07:24 PM
Aug 2024

the most basic starting point?

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
44. Did you actually try searching under "Bryant Rosado?" You get mostly Real Estate stuff because that's what he does.
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 07:34 PM
Aug 2024

First few pages are mostly Real Estate, Linkedin, etc., stuff except for the Midiatouch article -- that BTW doesn't use the OP's title -- and an article appearing 1 hour ago.

Midias' title is: "Bring Back Trump"– CNN "Undecided Voter" Panelist Has Pro-Trump Social Media History.

The word "plant" is not used in the article.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
60. As mentioned in Post #44, do a cursory search using their name. You won't find anything unless you do a deep dive. Vast
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 11:03 PM
Aug 2024

majority of hits are about the guys real estate work.

kcr

(15,522 posts)
63. If that is the case
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 07:54 AM
Aug 2024

then they shouldn't claim the panel is undecided. It is misleading. If it's simply too impossible to check, as you claim, then they can't have an undecided panel.

I think your claim is bogus, however. Checking facts and verifying sources is basic journalism.

 

onandup

(701 posts)
64. Scrolling through his X posts to hit paydirt took about 60 seconds
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 09:16 AM
Aug 2024

He doesn't tweet that often.

He reposted this August 24, 2023.


SocialDemocrat61

(7,647 posts)
65. Don't need a "deep dive"
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 10:12 AM
Aug 2024

Found this in less than 5 minutes



And I’m not a multi-billion dollar corporation with thousands of employees.

riversedge

(80,810 posts)
46. Rosado has a very LONG history of tweeting Pro-Trump posts. Cnn did not vet him
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 07:40 PM
Aug 2024

a bit IMHO!


..........January 6th

Rosado indicated disappointment that Vice President Mike Pence refused to overturn the electoral college vote for Trump. Rosado replied "SMH," shake my head, to a CNBC tweet on January 6th reporting that "Mike Pence rejects Trump's call to overturn Biden election."

kcr

(15,522 posts)
62. At the very least
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 07:52 AM
Aug 2024

they didn't bother to check. If they're going to claim that their panel is composed of undecided voters, they should at least make an effort to weed out partisans.

JHB

(38,213 posts)
12. Glad it's being highlighted, but lets remember this is nothing new
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:03 PM
Aug 2024

In any number of past panels like this, plenty of the "undecided" turn out to be people who've been active in their state or local republican party for years, some having run for office. But someone manages to not do basic vetting and puts them on these panels.

beaglelover

(4,466 posts)
16. They need to apologize for their inadequate screening of the panel every hour of every day for the next week.
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:13 PM
Aug 2024

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
17. CNN has fallen a long way from 9-11, when my daughter called me from work & ordered me to turn them on
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:18 PM
Aug 2024

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
19. lol. I knew something was off about him
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:23 PM
Aug 2024

An obviously planted asshole who went out of his way to give her a low score on her speech. The good news is his bullshit didn't seem to sway others. He was the only one on the panel who said he'd vote trump.

misanthrope

(9,495 posts)
24. The most parsimonious answer is that the panelist lied to CNN
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:54 PM
Aug 2024

not that CNN went to lengths to find then conceal him.

JI7

(93,617 posts)
26. Nobody on those things is undecided
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:55 PM
Aug 2024

Real undecideds don't follow politics that closely. They certainly aren't going to end up on these type of panels. Real undecidsju just vote based on what they think is popular at the moment.

IbogaProject

(5,913 posts)
27. gee Corporate Media supporting the GOP
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 06:56 PM
Aug 2024

Gee corporate media supporting the GOP rather then presenting balanced coverage? That is like asking if a bear goes potty in the woods.

TNNurse

(7,541 posts)
37. I watched this morning.
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 07:04 PM
Aug 2024

They also gave grades on her speech. The ranged from A to C. He was the C. He said he was a realtor.
All of the others except one said Kamala. The holdout woman said she would probably not vote.

Speaks2

(103 posts)
38. Plant?
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 07:11 PM
Aug 2024

I don't see anything indicating CNN manipulation. I have no problem believing it, but I also have no problem believing the individual (T supporter) lied in the first place and that CNN didn't investigate any of their focus group members.

angrychair

(12,285 posts)
45. There are only two possibilities
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 07:37 PM
Aug 2024

CNN is grossly incompetent or complicit. There are no other possibilities.

Speaks2

(103 posts)
54. Negligent
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 09:16 PM
Aug 2024

I'd use grossly negligent rather than incompetent, but you're echoing my statement, for sure.

Aviation Pro

(15,578 posts)
47. As soon as he opened his fucking mouth
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 08:02 PM
Aug 2024

And said that VP Harris got a C, I knew he was fucking sus.

hay rick

(9,605 posts)
49. Undecided voters watching the Democratic Convention? Hmmm. Hmm.
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 08:06 PM
Aug 2024

I'm sure they represent the MILLIONS of voters who watch every minute of political conventions, interviews, etc. and are still uncertain about the difference between the two parties and presidential candidates. What a dilemma for those conscientious and conflicted citizens!!!

I call bullshit.

Uncle Joe

(65,137 posts)
51. That did seem totally at odds with common sense and logic, considering the effect
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 08:29 PM
Aug 2024

on the rest of the actual undecided voters on their panel.

Thanks for the thread angrychair.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
52. Well, if you are going to search under his name, you won't get anything in first several pages beyond
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 08:31 PM
Aug 2024

his work. See Post #44 if you want facts.

Freethinker65

(11,203 posts)
55. Ok. But is there also a possibility some were also pro Harris to begin with?
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 09:24 PM
Aug 2024

Honestly, many will say anything to get on TV. CNN failed again.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
56. ***THE M$M IS HELPING TRUMP !!!*** Without help from the M$M Trump would not be a reality host has been
Fri Aug 23, 2024, 10:19 PM
Aug 2024

GiqueCee

(4,259 posts)
67. CNN's reputation...
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 04:35 PM
Aug 2024

... has gone down the toilet, and ain't NOBODY gonna fish it out again.

dlk

(13,247 posts)
70. I seriously doubt this is the first time
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 05:25 PM
Aug 2024

And I seriously doubt CNN is alone in this endeavor.

Mysterian

(6,486 posts)
72. I know small town newspaper reporters
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 05:31 PM
Aug 2024

who have much higher journalistic standards than the scurrilous lice at CNN.

Figarosmom

(11,991 posts)
73. YeH they are
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 05:31 PM
Aug 2024

Calling into Copan on the democrats line too. You can always when it's a magat because of the issues they say are important or say democrat when it should be democratic. They aren't fooling many I don't think but Shane on CNN . They think they can appease a madman.

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