My take on Gus,

[kozar]

Those of you who know me, will get this. I have bit my tongue for a few days, on this, but no more.
There are many times, over the years, I had to " get physical" with LilBit, in order to protect her.
Be it to pull her outta the way of a foul ball at a ball game, to catching her when she fell off the couch while dancing.
I did exactly what Tim did, I protected my child.
No one called me an abuser, they called me,LilBit's Dad.
Well done Gus's Dad !!!


Koz

[Walleye]

1. Thanks for sharing that, the Magas are really getting desperate to start pulling this kind of shit

[Brainfodder]

3. With his Sept. 18th sentencing in the very near view, what other loser Nth quality BS are they going to spew?

His already doubting the results of the election, since he knows he aint winning, what else he got, he is trapped!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Already used so many tropes, muhahaha!

Thinking 50M+ landslide now, and possibly a lot more with 9.18 and time for OPERATION LET HIM SPEAK to bury him further!

[Walleye]

6. I really hope the sentencing doesn't get postponed again.

But he has years left of appeals. They’ve got to put him in the pokey right away. This is what happens to our justice system when we try to prosecute somebody with unlimited amounts of money. We need to see him in a jail cell

[applegrove]

2. You can see the teleprompter Gus was going to walk into

in the video I saw this morning. It is dark. No doubt Tim didn't want Gus getting hurt.

[kozar]

5. Exactly,

Walz, on a national stage, millions watching, cared about his son.
I was at a ball game and at home.
Tells me his character.

Koz

[applegrove]

7. It was an instinctive move by someone used to

protecting his youngest.

[Walleye]

10. I have always been a Klutz. And I'm sure my parents would've done exactly the same thing and I would've been grateful.

One of the things parent desires. The most is to keep their child from being hurt. But what do you expect, when they ridiculed his genuine display of love for his father during the applause? They’ve always tried to make something dirty out of Joe Biden, kissing his grandchildren for chrissakes

[barbtries]

18. i kiss my children

when we hug. and i tell them i love them so much. i am forever grateful that I was raised in what was in many ways a dysfunctional family, the love was never left behind.

[debm55]

52. same here

[kozar]

63. One day my Mother and i were talking,

We used to talk about some silly stuff,, I grew up in the 60s,. A couple months ago, she asked me, " I see my grandchildren, being , coddled. There's no discipline other than soft words. Did I raise you badly?"
I told her,
" Mom, you and Dad used belts, I was thrown through a wall by Dad. You guys, would be in jail today. The only reason you met LilBit, is, everytime you hit me, I learned love. And 45 years later, I adopted her. Mom, you taught me love, through your hate."


Yeah barb, my family was dysfunctional as well

Koz

[Walleye]

8. It was one second of nothing and they're making it into a campaign slur

[spanone]

4. K&R

[KentuckyWoman]

9. I married a "Gus"

My husband tended to walk out in front of cars in parking lots and right into things in crowded places. We were friends since age 8. Holding onto him or redirecting him was so automatic that I never even realized I did it until this hubbub over Gus and the teleprompter. I didn't even notice it when it happened.

Also, you guys might flame me for it, but I don't understand why everything needs a label. Everyone learns differently. Everyone has different gifts and challenges. Everyone has quirks. To sort of quote Forest Gump's Mom - If God wanted us all the same, then everyone would walk into teleprompters.

Edit to add, yes my husband was autistic - as diagnosed very late in life. He drove, he worked, he loved, he functioned in society. He had some quirks and challenges ... and we all do.

[Walleye]

11. Exactly. I don't think anybody noticed it until the assholes kept replaying it. I sure didn't.

I’m pretty sure I had undiagnosed ADHD in school. They didn’t diagnose it at all in girls anyway, and when I was growing up, they just called it. “will you sit down and shut up”

[Trueblue Texan]

17. I had that too, Walleye! nt

[watrwefitinfor]

29. That's three of us. We should form a club or something.

My first grade teacher gave me all A's on my report cards. Then she wrote in her comments each month that "I can't make her stop talking", "I can't make her sit down", "She is still talking all the time and will not stay at her desk" and so on till the next to last monthly comment was - you guessed it - "Please make her sit down and shut up".

A few years later my oldest son's kindergarten teacher called me in for a conference to tell me she just didn't know "what I'm going to do with little Eugene". All I could say to her was, "Me, too!"

That's when I first wondered whether I might be hyper, like he was. And remembered my own first grade report cards. Which I still have and drug out to remind myself. And I remembered how my own mother "handled" it - she chuckled at the notes, then ignored it.

And so I hugged him and praised him some more.

Sending hugs to Gus and his family, too. Someone did some good work and good loving there. He expresses himself and his emotions beautifully.

Wat

[Walleye]

37. Yep, I also got A's and notes on my report card about "self-control"

[TBF]

53. Same, lots of A's and "she is always talking" ...

and I see it in my teenage son too. I did take him for evaluation when he was young & they thought he didn't quite meet the need for meds, but he definitely has the distraction and obsessive tendencies that I have. I guess he got enough calmness from my husband to balance it out better!

[catrose]

30. Yes, me too. Also diagnosed with "Would you pay attention and quit daydreaming? :

[Walleye]

39. Yes, ADHD had a lot of names in those days. I was in school in the 50s,strong pressure to conform then

[Walleye]

38. My father had a little bit of OCD. I didn't know what it was until long after he was gone. Just thought he was unique

A talented photographer and science teacher. He had little quirks that used to bother me when I was younger, but not too much. I miss him.

[33taw]

12. Even Snopes debunked it this morning.

[blm]

13. Of course.

Every attentive parent has done this.

[Ocelot II]

32. I have a somewhat foggy recollection of being yanked with some force

out of the path of traffic on the busy street in front of our house (I was about 4 at the time). And then I got yelled at afterwards. It's what parents do if they have to; my mother wasn't going to just stand there and watch me get run over.

[ananda]

14. Is there a link to the video? I'd like to see it.

Thanks in advance.

[SilasSouleII]

21. I just googled it

Only outlet I saw that had the story is the Times of India. There is NOTHING to it. BS story. Probbably will do more harm to the other side if they choose to run with it.

[ananda]

25. OK, I saw it. I think it's a big nothingburger.

I did see that scene when watching the convention
but didn't even notice the yanks.

[kozar]

31. anada

There was no " yank"

Simply, a Father, redirecting,
His Son

[ananda]

40. I think you can call it a yank and at the same time....

realize that a yank is good if protective and bad
if abusive, just as anything could be, even a smile.

My view is that Walz is caught between a rock and a
hard place wrt Gus. Here's why.

Being nd and a little immature, it's quite possible that
big crowds, late nights, and over-stimulation can be
too much for Gus emotionally. I know this is true bc
I have a niece who is nd and I've seen it in person.

You love your child. If you don't include them, they
will feel hurt and left out. If you do include them,
they may get over-stimulated. In a political situation
like this, where Republicans are just looking for something
attackable, you can't win for losing... unless...

you are Tim Walz, Gwen Walz, Kamala Harris, and good
Democrats who see through what Republicans are doing...
and that it's very clear that the Walzes and the whole
family are grounded in love.

We all know what we saw... love.

And that is that.

[kozar]

41. Im done, lost my daughter, you chose,

To hijack my thread

Koz

[ananda]

42. I apologize.

...

[Hekate]

44. 🌸

No need to apologize, afaiac

[Hekate]

43. This is an open thread where people are sharing their own family experiences. No one is "hijacking your thread"

Just double-checking, but this is General Discussion.

We are all in the human condition together, koz.

[question everything]

24. If you have to

This is the story and includes the twit. I don’t twit so cannot put the clip here.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/watch-tim-walz-slammed-by-viewers-after-they-see-him-aggressively-yank-his-disabled-son-front-stage/ar-AA1pjyCA

[Ocelot II]

27. That was *it*? All he did was give him a quick little pull

to keep him from bumping into the teleprompter. MAGA made it sound like he'd furiously dragged him halfway across the arena. I didn't even notice it when I watched the event live. They really are desperate.

[kozar]

28. And sometimes,

I just had to give LilBit,
A quick pull as well

Koz

[Klarkashton]

35. That article reads like it was written by Andy Ngo.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

56. I just watched that clip 4 times.

I still didn't see anything. At what time mark does the "abuse" supposedly occur? When they hug onstage toward the end.

Trumpers are delusional.

[question everything]

58. Just as they all form a line on the stage, the governor pulls Gus towards him, kinda keep in line

Very subtle and, as many observed, away from the teleprompter but, hey, details details

[barbtries]

15. how are you Kozar?

big hugs to you. Thank you for all you did for your darling daughter and all you continue to do.

[kozar]

22. Im ok

Was cleaning some things up, here, found the baseball, that Frank Vilola caught, when I grabbed,and covered, LilBit.
Just brought back some memories.

Koz

[kozar]

23. Im ok

Was cleaning some things up, here, found the baseball, that Frank Vilola caught, when I grabbed,and covered, LilBit.
Just brought back some memories.
If I was smart enough, to post pics here,
I would


Koz

[GoreWon2000]

16. The magas are despicable turds

who are incapable of showing any emotion but hate. Gus is a sweet, loving child who must be celebrated. His parents must also be celebrated for the loving environment they're raising him in.

[Mysterian]

62. In their quest for total power

republicans have encouraged and condoned this type of indecency.

[debm55]

19. Thank you , kozar. You were a great father.

[onecaliberal]

20. Yes, many times.

[CaptainTruth]

26. Thank you for the post, I know how you feel.

[Ocelot II]

33. And what do you suppose the MAGA media would have said

if Gus had bumped into the teleprompter and knocked it over? They'd have been all over Walz' ass for not pulling him away. He'd have been called a negligent dad who'd failed to keep an eye on his special needs kid.

[kozar]

34. Ty for

Proving my OP

If I would have done something wrong with LilBit,, I knew, what was coming,
Trust me,
It's harder, on a neighborhood stage,
I've been there.
Ty for posting

Koz

[SWBTATTReg]

36. Good for you in protecting your child. That's what Moms & Dads are for. And, I never did think his tugging at Gus

was overly aggressive or the like. Not in the least. And for those making these idiotic statements, doom and gloom and such, f**k them. No matter what anyone does, they're going to see the negative in anything going on w/ Walz or Kamala, they are that desperate to pin something on them that's negative, will stick. As we all noticed, the idiotic repugs were caught off guard big time, and they are still trying to catch their breath, being that their esteemed leader who's a big fat joke, isn't leading them (or rather, he's leading them all off a cliff to their doom).

Perhaps someone knows this, the numbers of republicans that have flocked to Kamala's banner? I have seen the numbers of ethic groups supporting Kamala:

-She has garnered significant support from various ethnic groups, particularly among Asian, Black, and Latino communities.

-Significant support from immigrant communities, a big big plus. Especially Latinos in FL, etc;

-And I'm guessing here, significant support from those on Social Security AND those that are disabled;

- And of course Female voters in overwhelming numbers, as tRUMP and vance continue their despicable nonsense against women (witness the Nikki Haley voters moving over to Kamala's banner, WONDERFUL!

-And of course vast numbers of white democratic voters, mostly in urban centers;

-On a positive note, djt is losing sizable percentages of his 'poorly educated voters' (I personally think that these people are tired of being insulted by tRUMP, and I don't blame them one bit). As we've all seen over the last several years or plus, those finding jobs haven't necessarily needed degrees, but trade craft experience/certificates.

-Sizable numbers of military veterans. These people are tired of being insulted by tRUMP too.

[Jack Valentino]

45. My take on Gus is, the MAGAts had so little to attack the Democrats about our convention,

(Reposted as an OP, since I was so long-winded https://democraticunderground.com/100219379244 )

that they were left without much but to attack a young man with disabilities
who cheered for his father in tears.... That's it and that's all.

Reminded me of this incident in political history...

Back in 1972, Senator Edmund Muskie, the front-runner for the 1972 Democratic presidential nomination,
(Hubert Humphrey's running mate in 1968),

was routed out of the race by accusations from the far-right Manchester NH newspaper,
the 'Manchester Union Leader', owned by a notorious right-winger whose name I do not recall anymore,
that he was crying in public while responding to attacks which that newspaper made about his wife.

As it happened, it was snowing heavily when he made his statement outdoors,
so the alleged tears may have actually been only snowflakes melting on his cheeks.
Never the less, he was forced to withdraw from the campaign over this incident,
since back then especially, it was "unmanly" to cry.

Well, there is nothing wrong with crying, whether it actually happened or not,
unless you are not a human being!

In any case, Gus's tears were "tears of joy",
and many such tears were shed by speakers at our convention!

At least we have moved a bit beyond such attacks against politicians,
and now the Republicans are left with attacking a young man with disabilities who isn't on the ballot...

I suppose that is "progress" in comparison to 1972,
but not so much progress in terms of respect for fellow human beings
who may have disabilities but also have feelings.

[kozar]

46. Ok, im done

Do any of you, understand, WHT I've done in my life? And now, they are gone?
And you feel like posting?

Im done, I have very few friends on here,
I did, what God ,asked me to do.
When I posted about it,,

Very few cared, about, what I posted.
You all cared, about your posts

That's not being a Democrat!!
That's being, someone, who just needs post counts..

Koz , out

[obamanut2012]

47. I understand your pain, but please quit attacking duers

No one has ever do e anything on here but love you,protect you, and some have litwrakly saved yiyr lufe.

Please, be kind to them.

[Hekate]

49. Well said

[Hekate]

50. This is GD. I know you know where the Bereavement forum is, & the various recovery & support forums are

That is where you need to go when you are feeling this raw. I was here when people literally saved your life — please don’t lash out at your fellow DUers this way.

[riverbendviewgal]

51. Yes. Well done Gus's dad,

You know what is to be like that.

[BrightKnight]

54. If you look at love and see weakness then you don't know Jesus.

[kozar]

55. Im sorry, if i said something wrong

I meant my post, as " I understood what Tim Walz, did"

I lived it with LilBit. As I read through replies,
I got triggered, by , maybe bots, maybe by parents on the edge, as I was once.

Im now, just an older guy, living alone, with a cat I adopted.
and I shared , one of my life's experiences
I thank you all, for understanding.

Koz

[Evolve Dammit]

57. Thanks for posting Koz

[notroot]

59. "Oh so you want to make fun of young men crying?"

[allegorical oracle]

60. Gus is a treasure. nt

[kozar]

61. I did my job

I sat here, for a year, with a fricking cat, (I do love LilGlad), but I'm done and tired, I ask women out ( 4 times) they say no.
I ran out yesterday, to buy some rum, 3 ladies said hi, you smell good (Savage, by Dior)
The one neighbor, that I want , to knock on my door,,
Waved ,and said ,," HI Doug"
Now, I'm 16 again, never asked a woman out, MrsK asked me to marry her, the judge told me to love LilBit, when I adopted her.

My cat, just wants food.,

Im a frigging mess, Hawks won though
Can anybody, tell me, who I am?