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Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 12:39 PM Aug 2024

Federal court is requiring Trump to appear for an hearing over copyright infringement against the estate of Isaac Hayes



Sarah Reese Jones
A federal court is requiring Trump to appear for an emergency hearing over his alleged copyright infringement against the estate of Isaac Hayes.


The Isaac Hayes Estate Granted Emergency Hearing In Lawsuit Against Trump

A federal court is requiring Trump to appear for an emergency hearing over his alleged copyright infringement against the estate of Isaac Hayes.

Isaac Hayes III posted:

🚨Breaking 🚨The Federal Court has granted our request for an Emergency Hearing to secure injunctive relief.

Donald Trump, Donald Trump, the RNC, Trump, Trump for President Inc. 2024, Turning Point and The NRA are required to appear in court September 3rd, 2024 at the Northern U.S. District Federal Court in Atlanta.

See you in court.


/snip


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Federal court is requiring Trump to appear for an hearing over copyright infringement against the estate of Isaac Hayes (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Aug 2024 OP
Can artists file a class-action suit orthoclad Aug 2024 #1
Trademarks, not copyrights. haele Aug 2024 #10
Ivanka registered trademarks, not copyrights, which is not unusual. CaptainTruth Aug 2024 #12
Our Company Did That ProfessorGAC Aug 2024 #24
You kind of have to do that in a China to protect your marks. LisaM Aug 2024 #37
Our Company Went So Far As... ProfessorGAC Aug 2024 #42
You're 100% right. Been there, done that. Thankfully I had attorneys & staff to deal with that. I didn't envy them. CaptainTruth Aug 2024 #47
Thanks for the confirmation, I've been amazed at how much backlash I've gotten for saying that... CaptainTruth Aug 2024 #46
I stand corrected. orthoclad Aug 2024 #33
Not a class action. legallyblondeNYC Aug 2024 #51
Could they still take coordinated legal action? orthoclad Aug 2024 #53
I missed that, which song did he steal this time? Walleye Aug 2024 #2
That song was released on Stax records. LeftInTX Aug 2024 #32
Seems like it might violate campaign finance contributions somehow Walleye Aug 2024 #34
Free use/ domain/ bulk buys do not violate campaign finance laws. (It's not campaign finance) LeftInTX Aug 2024 #36
I love all those artists, my college roommate had an Otis Redding album that I played the grooves off of Walleye Aug 2024 #40
Much of Stax music was featured in Blues Brothers. Most of the Blues Brothers artists were former Stax musicians. LeftInTX Aug 2024 #44
I still love the Booker T and MG sound Walleye Aug 2024 #45
Steve Cropper, Donald "Duck" Dunn and Willie Hall DJ Synikus Makisimus Aug 2024 #55
Before the album (A Briefcase full of Blues), and the film, the Blues Brothers made their debut appearance on SNL... Brother Buzz Aug 2024 #59
You hear a combination of Otis Redding's "Cant' Turn You Lose" and Booker T's "Time is Tight" in the Blues Bros version LeftInTX Aug 2024 #60
Ah, but Jake and Elwood performed Isaac Hayes' Soul Man" in the SNL Cold Opener Brother Buzz Aug 2024 #66
This interview explains some of that Momma Aug 2024 #61
Thanks for this! LeftInTX Aug 2024 #67
Sam and Dave would agree Evolve Dammit Aug 2024 #49
Shaft Attack! werdna Aug 2024 #3
That's funny, you know he would never use the song from Shaft Walleye Aug 2024 #35
One of my all-time favorites Evolve Dammit Aug 2024 #50
Same here Walleye Aug 2024 #52
"I had nothing to do with that." QED Aug 2024 #4
Clearly not the staffer who selected birdographer Aug 2024 #6
"Respondeat superior" soldierant Aug 2024 #26
"Hold on, I'm coming" song he's not supposed to be using. lindysalsagal Aug 2024 #5
I'm coming? Dave Bowman Aug 2024 #23
Why that's what JD Vance said to the couch. magicarpet Aug 2024 #39
Pink has a song PJMcK Aug 2024 #62
From IsaacHayes3 twitter irisblue Aug 2024 #7
That's quite a cast of characters. ShazzieB Aug 2024 #22
Hang the evil SOB by his gonads... GiqueCee Aug 2024 #8
Trump has gonads? 11 Bravo Aug 2024 #9
That's why I said... GiqueCee Aug 2024 #11
He has a figure? rubbersole Aug 2024 #15
HA! GiqueCee Aug 2024 #38
I wonder if they also look like mushrooms? Dave Bowman Aug 2024 #29
So do jellyfish, no biggie (grin) orthoclad Aug 2024 #56
Isaac Hayes wrote "Hang the evil SOB by his gonads"? WOW! Wonder Why Aug 2024 #18
I hope they BattleRow Aug 2024 #19
They don't seem to have any artistic talent on their side. So they have to steal, especially from Black people, Walleye Aug 2024 #31
He is a convicted felon, not supposed to continue to break the law. onecaliberal Aug 2024 #13
"throw this rotting corpse behind bars" Dave Bowman Aug 2024 #28
Good God in Butter does he look like he died and they haven't closed the casket lid. Botany Aug 2024 #14
Here's hoping the other artists follow with their lawsuits, too. Deuxcents Aug 2024 #16
Isaac Hayes wrote it. Sam and Dave sung it... iluvtennis Aug 2024 #17
I love that song wryter2000 Aug 2024 #27
Dirty Diaper, DON The Con will lose and we will have to pay Attorney Fees for Estate of Issac Hayes !!!!!!!!!!! Trueblue1968 Aug 2024 #20
Well done wryter2000 Aug 2024 #21
Hold on malaise Aug 2024 #25
+1 Dave Bowman Aug 2024 #30
Free clue for republicons: Stealing is wrong. BoRaGard Aug 2024 #41
The Estate of Isaac Hayes John Shaft Aug 2024 #43
Pay your debts, you SLIMEBALL MOTRHERFUCKER Stinky The Clown Aug 2024 #48
He doesn't look good. Joinfortmill Aug 2024 #54
Go get 'im, Judge! What a scofflaw. He badly needs to get his comeuppance. summer_in_TX Aug 2024 #57
Unlikely that the judge has ordered trump to appear personally onenote Aug 2024 #58
Not just Shaft, bail bondsman Truck Turner is coming after him as well! Crowman2009 Aug 2024 #63
While this is great, where is AG on his violation of the Logan Act? AllyCat Aug 2024 #64
I always love when MAGA gets told not to use a song! Initech Aug 2024 #65

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
1. Can artists file a class-action suit
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 12:42 PM
Aug 2024

about his many, many copyright infringements?

He thinks copyrights are his playground. After all, didn't China give Ivanka about 60 copyrights in 2017?

haele

(15,393 posts)
10. Trademarks, not copyrights.
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 01:40 PM
Aug 2024

Means she may get some sort of residual for the trademark use of her name, logo, or image, but there's a few legal use rules that are different.

A trademark stylized X used by a particular company or a trademarked term like "Good to the Last Drop aren't protected by Copyright. They are treated as legal representation for advertising purposes.

So, a comedian can use the trademark term "good to the last drop" in a punchline on national TV or in a movie without having to get permission to the parent company of Maxwell House Coffee.

But an artist or designer holds the copyright to their creation, and there's legal processes for the use of their creation by outside entities to promote someone or something, or to make money off that creation, or for someone else to claim it as their own creation.

Haele

CaptainTruth

(8,198 posts)
12. Ivanka registered trademarks, not copyrights, which is not unusual.
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 01:48 PM
Aug 2024

I worked in IP licensing for a couple decades, managing corporate IP (patents, trademarks, copyrights) licensing & we routinely registered our trademarks in China, including for products we didn't make, because that prevented Chinese companies from using our name on those products. It's common for companies that license their trademarks globally to do that.

ProfessorGAC

(76,693 posts)
24. Our Company Did That
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 03:37 PM
Aug 2024

They trademarked every product & variants in China, although 5 divisions were unlikely ever to be made in China or sold into those far east markets.
It was done for the very reason you described.

LisaM

(29,633 posts)
37. You kind of have to do that in a China to protect your marks.
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 04:05 PM
Aug 2024

There are a lot of trademark squatters in China who register other company's marks and it's onerous to remove them.

ProfessorGAC

(76,693 posts)
42. Our Company Went So Far As...
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 04:28 PM
Aug 2024

...not competing in markets requiring reactions governed by our trade secrets, because there's no way to keep is secret there.
There were a few tricks we did in the chemistries we did practice but the risk of letting those tricks leave our sites was moderate, at most.
I don't think any intellectual property is safe in China.

CaptainTruth

(8,198 posts)
47. You're 100% right. Been there, done that. Thankfully I had attorneys & staff to deal with that. I didn't envy them.
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 05:53 PM
Aug 2024

CaptainTruth

(8,198 posts)
46. Thanks for the confirmation, I've been amazed at how much backlash I've gotten for saying that...
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 05:48 PM
Aug 2024

...all from people who've never worked a day in IP licensing with no experience in IP law & how it all works in the modern world.

We licensed technology patents & trademarks, I guarantee you have our tech in your PC/Mac, phone, TV, laptop, tablet, & probably more. Whatever you're using to read this message, our tech is in it. I'm sure you're familiar with COGS (class of goods & services). We didn't make clothing but through our China office we arranged to have some T-shirts made & sold in China, so that we could register our TMs there in the clothing COGS (or the Chinese equivalent) so that no Chinese company could make clothing using our trademarked name. That's just one example, it was normal to have registrations in dozens of COGS for products we didn't make (defensive registrations). If you're serious about protecting your IP, that's what you do. And I'm sure you know about the cases where a company didn't actively police & defend their IP & courts ruled that they had allowed it to become generic.

legallyblondeNYC

(168 posts)
51. Not a class action.
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 08:33 PM
Aug 2024

Each individual artist was specifically harmed at different events, times, dates, etc. So, we're looking at a pattern of behavior that is repeated. But they weren't all harmed in exactly the same way (like stock fraud).

Walleye

(44,797 posts)
2. I missed that, which song did he steal this time?
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 12:43 PM
Aug 2024

Oh no, I see “hold on I’m coming”. I was really offended by that one. The man is an abomination.

LeftInTX

(34,286 posts)
32. That song was released on Stax records.
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 03:54 PM
Aug 2024
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stax_Records

Much of their catalog has been sold etc. Checkered history of takeovers etc.

I have no idea WHO owns the rights to their music, because it has been bought several times.

It looks like Hayes may have signed on to the new label, so maybe he's in luck! (But then, I heard that all of their old music was lost to investors)

LeftInTX

(34,286 posts)
36. Free use/ domain/ bulk buys do not violate campaign finance laws. (It's not campaign finance)
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 04:01 PM
Aug 2024

It would be rather he paid to use the song and was he required to pay etc. The same licensing requirements apply to the NBA etc. It's not campaign laws, it's just licensing. Often times, it's the venue that pays and not the campaign.

Stax is R n B: Sam and Dave. Otis Redding. Staple Singers, Booker T and the MGs, (I think a few Aretha Franklin)

Walleye

(44,797 posts)
40. I love all those artists, my college roommate had an Otis Redding album that I played the grooves off of
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 04:13 PM
Aug 2024

LeftInTX

(34,286 posts)
44. Much of Stax music was featured in Blues Brothers. Most of the Blues Brothers artists were former Stax musicians.
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 04:53 PM
Aug 2024




The music in the mall is a fusion of an Otis Redding tune and Booker T. I believe one of the Blues Brothers was with Booker T and the MGs.

DJ Synikus Makisimus

(1,438 posts)
55. Steve Cropper, Donald "Duck" Dunn and Willie Hall
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 11:44 PM
Aug 2024

were all members of Booker T and the M.G.s as well as the Blues Brothers band (in the movie and, I think, on tour).

Brother Buzz

(39,895 posts)
59. Before the album (A Briefcase full of Blues), and the film, the Blues Brothers made their debut appearance on SNL...
Sun Aug 25, 2024, 01:21 AM
Aug 2024

They performed Isaac Hayes' smash hit, "Soul Man".

Arguably the best SNL Cold Opener.... EVER


LeftInTX

(34,286 posts)
60. You hear a combination of Otis Redding's "Cant' Turn You Lose" and Booker T's "Time is Tight" in the Blues Bros version
Sun Aug 25, 2024, 01:32 AM
Aug 2024






Can't hear "Time is Tight" too well in the background, but in the car chase movie scene, you can hear it quite well. You hear the organ going on the the background with the Booker T riff....

First time I saw the movie: "This sounds like Booker T and the MG's", but I couldn't place it because it was something else.

Brother Buzz

(39,895 posts)
66. Ah, but Jake and Elwood performed Isaac Hayes' Soul Man" in the SNL Cold Opener
Sun Aug 25, 2024, 01:09 PM
Aug 2024

Curiously, Steve Cropper initially recruited Isaac Hayes as a replacement session keyboardist because Booker T. Jones was leaving for college. Turned out, Booker T continued to do Stax session work on weekends while in college.

Things really took off when the sage, Cropper, paired Isaac Hayes with David Porter and cut them loose.

Walleye

(44,797 posts)
35. That's funny, you know he would never use the song from Shaft
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 03:57 PM
Aug 2024

Way too funky for his audience

QED

(3,349 posts)
4. "I had nothing to do with that."
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 12:50 PM
Aug 2024

He'll probably say this - and it may actually be true. One of his staffers may have chosen the song. But it would be on his behalf so yeah, it's on him.

birdographer

(2,937 posts)
6. Clearly not the staffer who selected
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 01:18 PM
Aug 2024

"Send in the Clowns" and the Titanic theme song for a later hate rally he held...

irisblue

(37,507 posts)
7. From IsaacHayes3 twitter
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 01:28 PM
Aug 2024



🚨Breaking 🚨The Federal Court has granted our request for an Emergency Hearing to secure injunctive relief.

Donald Trump,
@realdonaldtrump
, the RNC, Trump, Trump for President Inc. 2024, Turning Point and The NRA are required to appear in court September 3rd, 2024 at the Northern U.S. District Federal Court in Atlanta.

See you in court.


ShazzieB

(22,582 posts)
22. That's quite a cast of characters.
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 03:32 PM
Aug 2024
Donald Trump, @realdonaldtrump, the RNC, Trump, Trump for President Inc. 2024, Turning Point, and The NRA are required to appear in court

I presume this actually means "lawyers representing each of those entities" are required to appear, but it sounds like a crowded courtroom either way.

Shame on all of them for disregarding the wishes of the Hayes estate.

GiqueCee

(4,243 posts)
8. Hang the evil SOB by his gonads...
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 01:37 PM
Aug 2024

... figuratively speaking, of course. This courtroom appearance might provide the Orange Gargoyle with a perfect opportunity to tank his chances of winning once and for all. He is incapable of keeping his fat, racist mouth shut, and stealing from a deceased black artist means nothing to him. Here's hoping he fucks himself royally.
His musical choices are pretty much limited to Kid Rock, Lee Greenwood, and Ted Nugent. Nugent wrote a song years ago called "Jailbait". That would be perfect for Trumpleforeskin.

Walleye

(44,797 posts)
31. They don't seem to have any artistic talent on their side. So they have to steal, especially from Black people,
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 03:51 PM
Aug 2024

He has no respect for them

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
13. He is a convicted felon, not supposed to continue to break the law.
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 01:51 PM
Aug 2024

Someone throw this rotting corpse behind bars already.

Dave Bowman

(7,151 posts)
28. "throw this rotting corpse behind bars"
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 03:46 PM
Aug 2024

Or dump it in Central Park. What's good for the bear is good for the gander.

Botany

(77,315 posts)
14. Good God in Butter does he look like he died and they haven't closed the casket lid.
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 01:55 PM
Aug 2024

Donny’s September dance card as per court dates is getting “all full up.”

He already has something on the 5th and then a sentencing hearing for his 34
felonies in the middle of the month, and don’t be surprised when T-Swizzle sues
his ass for the unauthorized use of her picture.



So Donny is on the hood for 83 million to E. Jean Carroll, something like 350 million
to New York State, and now this.

iluvtennis

(21,497 posts)
17. Isaac Hayes wrote it. Sam and Dave sung it...
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 02:44 PM
Aug 2024


I remember my parents playing the 45 on the phonograph.

Trueblue1968

(19,251 posts)
20. Dirty Diaper, DON The Con will lose and we will have to pay Attorney Fees for Estate of Issac Hayes !!!!!!!!!!!
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 03:07 PM
Aug 2024

malaise

(296,081 posts)
25. Hold on
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 03:39 PM
Aug 2024

He’s coming.

Effin brazen racist stealing black music - the entitled convicted felon just takes what he wants






Great news

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
41. Free clue for republicons: Stealing is wrong.
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 04:17 PM
Aug 2024

There's even a whole bunch of stuff about that in the Bible. You should check it out.

summer_in_TX

(4,168 posts)
57. Go get 'im, Judge! What a scofflaw. He badly needs to get his comeuppance.
Sun Aug 25, 2024, 12:26 AM
Aug 2024

Beyoncé agreed to allow Kamala to use her song. Don't you know that every single song she uses in her campaigning is only used with permission from the artist or copyright holder? After all, her husband is a copyright attorney.

onenote

(46,139 posts)
58. Unlikely that the judge has ordered trump to appear personally
Sun Aug 25, 2024, 12:51 AM
Aug 2024

More likely the named defendants are being instructed to appear through counsel. Posting the actual order might clarify what the order requires.

Crowman2009

(3,524 posts)
63. Not just Shaft, bail bondsman Truck Turner is coming after him as well!
Sun Aug 25, 2024, 09:36 AM
Aug 2024

Yep, that's Nichelle Nichols as the main villain.

AllyCat

(18,840 posts)
64. While this is great, where is AG on his violation of the Logan Act?
Sun Aug 25, 2024, 09:47 AM
Aug 2024

I keep waiting to see news of that. Clear violation. Just as this appears to be.

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