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Dennis Donovan

(31,059 posts)
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 08:24 AM Aug 2024

GW Bush has had 3 opportunities now to stymie Trump by endorsing the Democratic nominee - and refused every time



Fernand R. Amandi
For all his talk about democracy building efforts in Iraq and post 9/11 exhortations about freedom, former GOP President George W. Bush has had 3 opportunities now to stymie Donald Trump by endorsing the Democratic nominee — and refused every time.

His castigation is deserved.
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GW Bush has had 3 opportunities now to stymie Trump by endorsing the Democratic nominee - and refused every time (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Aug 2024 OP
Michelle needs to have words with W VMA131Marine Aug 2024 #1
Republicans hate the bush's. I'm not sure it'd help at all. jimfields33 Aug 2024 #52
lol Torchlight Aug 2024 #54
For those of us who thought Dubya knowingly sat on his hands... Girard442 Aug 2024 #2
Yeah, who wants his endorsement? LisaM Aug 2024 #4
Bush also backed Kavanaugh for the Supreme Court. delisen Aug 2024 #38
2004 White House Correspondents Dinner struggle4progress Aug 2024 #3
Who cares? Fuck that guy. hatrack Aug 2024 #5
An incompetent weasel of the highest (lowest?) level! displacedvermoter Aug 2024 #6
Now you've gone and insulted the entire Mustelidae family! lastlib Aug 2024 #21
Very true, and should I run into any ferrets, minks, displacedvermoter Aug 2024 #24
Busy. Paintin'. tanyev Aug 2024 #7
Don't want the endorsement or support of a war criminal Deminpenn Aug 2024 #8
THIS! FalloutShelter Aug 2024 #11
I agree berniesandersmittens Aug 2024 #61
I have no doubt that bu$h is just fine with trmp. spanone Aug 2024 #9
A Bush endorsement would be HUGE for Harris WSHazel Aug 2024 #10
He's pretty much stayed out of politics. Michele Obama seems to like him ... marble falls Aug 2024 #12
He got the taxpayers of Arlington to pay for displacedvermoter Aug 2024 #17
It makes me angry, too, but name one sports franchise that hasn't peeled taxpayers? Jerry Jones comes to mind ... marble falls Aug 2024 #25
From Public Integrity displacedvermoter Aug 2024 #53
Green Bay Packers? ProfessorGAC Aug 2024 #58
To be fair ... VMA131Marine Aug 2024 #62
To be honest, displacedvermoter Aug 2024 #72
Horny little bugger.... Dan Aug 2024 #44
I honestly feel he's on the wrong side of the bell curve and she feels a sisterly or neighborly sympathy ... marble falls Aug 2024 #71
Maybe Bush realizes his endorsement won't help. Self Esteem Aug 2024 #13
He knows why Trump was selected by the oligarchy, same reason he was travelingthrulife Aug 2024 #14
One musclecar6 Aug 2024 #15
Reality check. Jirel Aug 2024 #16
Yeah, for all we know, he doesn't recall being POTUS at all. nt allegorical oracle Aug 2024 #49
Why expect patriotism now? nt Gore1FL Aug 2024 #18
Who gives a shit what this lying war criminal does? Nanjeanne Aug 2024 #19
While Trump wins Most Incompetent and Corrupt President hands down, GWB is still a contender for Worst. Nt Fiendish Thingy Aug 2024 #20
IMHO the Harris campaign leaves no stone unturned and is brilliant at strategic timing. They are working all wiggs Aug 2024 #22
The war criminal? Fuck him. bif Aug 2024 #23
He's a no good piece of shit. Klarkashton Aug 2024 #26
It's easy to spot who's working for the billionaires club Blue Owl Aug 2024 #27
I don't think anybody cares. Ocelot II Aug 2024 #28
He is friends with the Clinton's and Obama's. Kaleva Aug 2024 #50
Nevertheless, it seems doubtful that his endorsement would have much effect Ocelot II Aug 2024 #51
I agree Kaleva Aug 2024 #55
A Bush endorsing a Democrat is like a Kennedy endorsing a Republican underpants Aug 2024 #29
I see what you did there. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #31
bush is a rightwinger, "never forget" that. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #30
TBH, his endorsement would likely hurt more than help, anyway relayerbob Aug 2024 #32
Another idiot PJMcK Aug 2024 #33
Smirko McCokespoon is Putin's Boss Kid Berwyn Aug 2024 #34
He's a coward BlueKota Aug 2024 #35
Would anyone care if he endorsed Kamala or Hillary or anyone else? Renew Deal Aug 2024 #36
Yep, reinforce the "deep state" nonsense in exchange for NOTHING. TheKentuckian Aug 2024 #64
Source? Link? Amaryllis Aug 2024 #37
He's a war criminal. onecaliberal Aug 2024 #39
THANK YOU Skittles Aug 2024 #65
To be honest, we don't need or want Dubya's endorsement. Tommy Carcetti Aug 2024 #40
Bush is seen as a disastrous president by most. His endorsement wouldn't help much at all JI7 Aug 2024 #41
That worthless fucker should be serving life in prison. SamKnause Aug 2024 #42
He said what they were all thinking out loud. CrispyQ Aug 2024 #43
Maybe the Dems asked him to please stay silent? mainer Aug 2024 #45
Ami the only one things GW is dumb as a brick? nolabear Aug 2024 #46
Nope. I'm with you. Bush wasn't gonna stymie anyone Raven123 Aug 2024 #47
The bush family is the reason we have Dump. They're another terrorist crime family. Clouds Passing Aug 2024 #48
tweet author doesn't seem to understand the neocons definition of "Democracy" WarGamer Aug 2024 #56
Useless waste of oxygen. aocommunalpunch Aug 2024 #57
bushthief killed American democracy in 2000! GoreWon2000 Aug 2024 #59
Even though daddy Bush had enough sense to vote for Hillary wishstar Aug 2024 #60
I won't defend W. He was a horrible president Buckeyeblue Aug 2024 #63
Fuck him. He is a war criminal. BigDemVoter Aug 2024 #66
CHICKEN GEORGE can go fvck himself. madinmaryland Aug 2024 #67
I don't have very high expectations of him. milestogo Aug 2024 #68
Is he even sentient at this point? Sparkly Aug 2024 #69
Do we even *want* his endorsement? Mad_Machine76 Aug 2024 #70
"Doing the right thing" DFW Aug 2024 #73
Really shouldn't expect much from a WAR CRIMINAL Martin Eden Aug 2024 #74
A terrible man, and who would he influence versus Adam Kinzinger? Passages Aug 2024 #75
He's a coward awesomerwb1 Aug 2024 #76
This mother fucker? Botany Aug 2024 #77
Did anybody really believe that little dick GW Bush had changed? hadEnuf Aug 2024 #78

VMA131Marine

(5,270 posts)
1. Michelle needs to have words with W
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 08:28 AM
Aug 2024

That said, does anyone really care who he endorses, if anyone. W left office as one of the most unpopular presidents ever …

Girard442

(6,887 posts)
2. For those of us who thought Dubya knowingly sat on his hands...
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 08:30 AM
Aug 2024

...during the runup to 9/11, this is totally on-brand.

LisaM

(29,634 posts)
4. Yeah, who wants his endorsement?
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 08:33 AM
Aug 2024

He set the blueprint for election lies, and we are dealing with his SCOTUS. He picked Roberts and Alito. He defamed Al Gore. What I want from him is an apology.

delisen

(7,366 posts)
38. Bush also backed Kavanaugh for the Supreme Court.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 12:32 PM
Aug 2024

G W Bush bears responsibility for the loss of human rights of women in America.

struggle4progress

(126,153 posts)
3. 2004 White House Correspondents Dinner
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 08:31 AM
Aug 2024


Once a vacuous cynic, always a vacuous cynic. And once a sycophantic stenographer, always a sycophantic stenographer

hatrack

(64,887 posts)
5. Who cares? Fuck that guy.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 08:35 AM
Aug 2024

The worst president in US history save one, and we're expecting him to Do The Right Thing now, 16 years after he walked away from the giant pile of shit he left for us to clean up?

Who.

Cares.

displacedvermoter

(4,501 posts)
6. An incompetent weasel of the highest (lowest?) level!
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 08:37 AM
Aug 2024

He has James Buchanan as a buffer between himself and Trump on the worst president ever list, that is about the best thing historically I can say about this lazy and cruel man.

lastlib

(28,264 posts)
21. Now you've gone and insulted the entire Mustelidae family!
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 10:34 AM
Aug 2024

Weasels are noble beasts compared to any of the * clan. They and their relatives demand an apology!

displacedvermoter

(4,501 posts)
24. Very true, and should I run into any ferrets, minks,
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 11:10 AM
Aug 2024

badgers, ermines, stoats or wolverines today, I will make amends! Or just plain weasels!

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
8. Don't want the endorsement or support of a war criminal
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 08:47 AM
Aug 2024

Let's not forget Bush had the election handed to him by SCOTUS when they stopped the vote counting in FL.

berniesandersmittens

(13,197 posts)
61. I agree
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 03:17 PM
Aug 2024

His silence speaks more IMHO.
The man's got a stink on him that we should want nothing to do with.

spanone

(141,610 posts)
9. I have no doubt that bu$h is just fine with trmp.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 08:50 AM
Aug 2024

It's party over everything with these cons.

WSHazel

(758 posts)
10. A Bush endorsement would be HUGE for Harris
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 08:53 AM
Aug 2024

It would be a signal to RINOs that it is OK to abandon Trump, and could move a few million votes from Trump to Harris, which puts the Presidency pretty much in the bank for Harris. Romney and Cheney endorsements would be good too, but Bush would be best. Low information Republican voters probably don't know much of what Trump says or does because they don't care and the media treat him like a normal Republican. They are supporting him because that is what their social circle is doing and the Republican Party seems united so they are just going along with the crowd.

A former Republican President saying "no" to Trump would be a huge signal to these voters that Trump is not normal, despite a decade of MSM normalizing his behavior, and that it is OK for Republicans to vote for Harris or stay home. I think a Bush endorsement in September would be fatal to Trump's campaign.

Once it becomes clear that Trump is going to lose, a lot of Republicans who have been kissing his ass will start distancing themselves from Trump and even speak up against him. Trump is an obese, 78 year old man that likely has been a frequent user of drugs throughout his life. This is his last election, and Trump has never been able to turn out his voters when he is not on the ballot. That means he becomes pretty much worthless politically if he loses this election. A Bush, or Romney or Cheney, endorsement could start dominoes tipping that could permanently end the Trump era in America.

marble falls

(71,926 posts)
12. He's pretty much stayed out of politics. Michele Obama seems to like him ...
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 09:04 AM
Aug 2024

... He's not a deep, in touch sort of guy. His life doesn't change much whether TFG is in the WH or not.

He was a pretty good executive with the Texas Rangers.



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displacedvermoter

(4,501 posts)
17. He got the taxpayers of Arlington to pay for
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 09:37 AM
Aug 2024

his stadium using chicanery and a cheesy land deal. A grifter and a lazy incompetent.

marble falls

(71,926 posts)
25. It makes me angry, too, but name one sports franchise that hasn't peeled taxpayers? Jerry Jones comes to mind ...
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 12:16 PM
Aug 2024

Don't blame the teams - they only ask, our elected officials and those who vote for these bond issues and tax rebates are to blame.

displacedvermoter

(4,501 posts)
53. From Public Integrity
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 01:44 PM
Aug 2024
https://publicintegrity.org/politics/how-george-w-bush-scored-big-with-the-texas-rangers/

Bush used his father's name -- in his preparations for running for Governor of Texas -- to increase his visibility by buying the Rangers.

Peter Ueberroth (a Bush Pere donor), the commissioner of MLB, pressed for more local investors, so his father's former donors, including Fort Worth billionaires with ties to the oil company that bought Shrub's faltering oil firm, ponied up the money, $86 million. Shrub had to come up with $500,000 that he obtained from a Midland, Texas bank where he had been a board member.

Bush would then be rewarded, for using his and his father's name in the transactions, with a full ten percent share of the team. Finding the stadium was not up to major leagues standards, the new ownership hit up the taxpayers for the money to build a new ballpark, threatening to move the team out of Arlington. A sales tax hike would raise the $135 million needed. To sell the proposal, the owners said they would come up with $50 million of their own money, which was raised by a $1 surcharge on ticket sales. They would eventually raise $200 million, and all of the revenues then generated went back to the owners.

They then orchestrated the condemnation of surrounding parcels of land for parking and construction of future properties. Subsequent lawsuits led to some $11 million in settlements, which the owners tried to pass off onto the taxpayers of Arlington, before settling a decade later.

Bush would eventually be part of a group that sold the team for three times what they had originally paid, and then governor would pocket some $14 million on his $500,000 or so investment.

Crook, grifter, nepo baby of the highest echelon!

ProfessorGAC

(76,704 posts)
58. Green Bay Packers?
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 02:48 PM
Aug 2024

There's no "owner", just the city residents. Not thinking of many others.
Reinsdorf (White Sox & Bulls) has had clean hands for a while, but not totally clean.
The Ricketts family spent tons of their own money on the Cubs and area around Wrigley, but they squeezed the city, too.
Maybe Steve Ballmer or Cohen, who are both beyond rich?
Now, I'm reaching for names and there are 122 major sports franchises.
You ask a really good question.

VMA131Marine

(5,270 posts)
62. To be fair ...
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 04:02 PM
Aug 2024

There are very few new stadiums built these days that don’t get some combination of public financing and property tax concessions. It’s ridiculous, but that’s the way things have evolved because cities don’t want to lose their sports teams and the leagues are only to willing to let teams relocate. Hence, the San Francisco 49ers play 50 miles away from SF in Santa Clara, the San Diego Chargers now play in LA, Oakland has lost its football and baseball teams to Las Vegas, and the owners of the Cleveland Browns want to build a new stadium far away from downtown.

displacedvermoter

(4,501 posts)
72. To be honest,
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 10:32 PM
Aug 2024

Bush's acquisition of the Rangers, the financing and construction of the stadium, the acquisition of adjacent properties to up the value of the team, and the subsequent sale of the team, was a colossal scam. It is very different than the arrangements you are talking about, though those are aggregious ripoffs as well.

Billionaires gouging taxpayers who will, mostly, be unable to afford tickets to see the teams their tax dollars are supporting, is just one more galling testament to how unfair modern America has become.

marble falls

(71,926 posts)
71. I honestly feel he's on the wrong side of the bell curve and she feels a sisterly or neighborly sympathy ...
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 09:43 PM
Aug 2024

... for him. I imagine she's developed a pretty good BS detector over the years.

 

Self Esteem

(2,248 posts)
13. Maybe Bush realizes his endorsement won't help.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 09:15 AM
Aug 2024

Who's it supposed to win over?

If anything, Bush's endorsement could harm Harris. Remember how many so-called liberals sat out the 2016 election or voted third party because they thought Hillary was a warmonger? Wasn't that Susan Sarandon's justification for voting Stein? I also remember RFK's (the original) speech writer endorsing Trump because he would see out JFK/RFK's vision of ending forever wars.

No better way to create that narrative again than to have the biggest warmonger of them all endorse Harris. Yeah, no thanks.

travelingthrulife

(5,179 posts)
14. He knows why Trump was selected by the oligarchy, same reason he was
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 09:27 AM
Aug 2024

A brainless rubber stamp for their ambitions./

musclecar6

(1,884 posts)
15. One
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 09:33 AM
Aug 2024

Thing to consider is between now and November 5, we still have some time where it might be helpful to have people like Cheney and Bush, Romney, etc., with an endorsement at various points along the way here to keep it fresh in the minds of the voters.

Just like Bernie held off for awhile after Kamala was set up for the nomination, before weighing in after the DNC convention. This way people start adding to the pile of endorsers. If Bernie came out right away, it would've got lost in the shuffle with everybody else jumping on the bandwagon, a few days after Joe steppped down.

Jirel

(2,369 posts)
16. Reality check.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 09:37 AM
Aug 2024

Dubya has stayed out of politics (and the spotlight) for good reason. He stays home and paints ugly pictures that a 5 year old could paint, for good reason. He has no post-presidency to speak of for a reason.

Dubya was the party boy, and it wrecked his brain. We watched signs of this while he was in office. He is likely no more mentally fit than Dump. So of course he’s staying quiet. His handlers are not going to put him in that position, even if he wanted to be. I doubt the guy gives a damn about much. The last line of the article says it all - “Bush remarked about his life in retirement, “I think part of having a fulfilling life is to be challenged. I’m challenged on the golf course, I’m challenged to stay fit, and I’m challenged by my paintings…I am happy.””

https://millercenter.org/president/gwbush/life-after-the-presidency

Fiendish Thingy

(23,236 posts)
20. While Trump wins Most Incompetent and Corrupt President hands down, GWB is still a contender for Worst. Nt
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 10:34 AM
Aug 2024

wiggs

(8,812 posts)
22. IMHO the Harris campaign leaves no stone unturned and is brilliant at strategic timing. They are working all
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 10:35 AM
Aug 2024

these guys and for the ones willing to put country over party they will have a timeline and method for coming out. I bet the Cheneys have been enlisted to help w GW.

If not GW, then there will be plenty of others.

Ocelot II

(130,533 posts)
28. I don't think anybody cares.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 12:20 PM
Aug 2024

The Democrats don't like him and the MAGA GOP don't like him either. His endorsement of either candidate won't make a bit of difference.

Ocelot II

(130,533 posts)
51. Nevertheless, it seems doubtful that his endorsement would have much effect
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 01:35 PM
Aug 2024

on voters on either side. If the Obamas and the Clintons think he's a fun guy to have a beer with, fine, but he's not a political force at all any more.

Kid Berwyn

(24,395 posts)
34. Smirko McCokespoon is Putin's Boss
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 12:27 PM
Aug 2024


How Billionaires Picked Putin as "Russia’s Pinochet"

By Greg Palast
BuzzFlash, March 16, 2022

Vladimir Putin did not arrive from outer space on an abalone shell.

Putin went from the virtually unknown Deputy Mayor of St. Petersburg to Russia’s President and potentate by winning a weird competition organized by Russian billionaire Boris Berezovsky who sought a "Russian Pinochet" to succeed Boris Yeltsin as President.

The competition, dubbed "Operation Successor," went so far as to send Russia’s "Larry King," Mikhail Leontyev, to interview General Pinochet for Russian TV while Pinochet was under indictment in Chile on murder charges. Russians were treated to the old dictator’s advice on choosing a leader who could imitate Pinochet’s "strong hand," a police state, while promoting a hyper-capitalist economy.

Snip...

Berezovsky and other oligarchs, in Davos, Switzerland, attending that mating event of the rich and powerful, were horrified that the monied elite were giving their affection to Gennady Zyuganov, leader of the newly re-branded Communist Party of the Russian Federation. Polls showed Zyuganov was certain to defeat Yeltsin in upcoming elections.

Berezovsky and other oligarchs, panicked that Zyuganov would seize their ill-gotten gains, formed what they called the “Davos Pact” to re-elect Yeltsin — at all costs. And that cost a lot: they bought up all the media, all of it, and iced out Zyuganov. Bill Clinton jumped in, sending in an army of US elections and PR consultants.

Continues…

https://www.gregpalast.com/how-billionaires-picked-putin-as-russias-pinochet/

Renew Deal

(85,151 posts)
36. Would anyone care if he endorsed Kamala or Hillary or anyone else?
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 12:29 PM
Aug 2024

I don't think it would actually move any votes and might hurt the Democrat.

 

TheKentuckian

(26,314 posts)
64. Yep, reinforce the "deep state" nonsense in exchange for NOTHING.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 04:14 PM
Aug 2024

Dumbass Dubya has no juice.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,498 posts)
40. To be honest, we don't need or want Dubya's endorsement.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 12:42 PM
Aug 2024

Honestly, all we need from him is a non-endorsement of Trump, which apparently seems to be the case as it was in 2020.

Anything beyond that would be too complicated for us as Democrats.

Let him go back to painting or whatever the hell he's been doing with his life since he's left office.

His mere silence works just fine.

JI7

(93,616 posts)
41. Bush is seen as a disastrous president by most. His endorsement wouldn't help much at all
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 12:42 PM
Aug 2024

I think Mike Pence might help more.

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
43. He said what they were all thinking out loud.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 12:58 PM
Aug 2024
If this were a dictatorship it would be a heck of a lot easier... as long as I'm the dictator. Hehehe.
~George W. Bush


I kind of see him as a precursor to Trump. Then Palin came along with her racist rhetoric & wasn't shut down by the media or the Republican Party so it opened the door wide for Trump with his combo platter of racism & misogyny.

Guess what, you cult assholes, we're not going back. You take your hate back to your living rooms & private BBQs & you keep that shit out of OUR public sphere.

mainer

(12,554 posts)
45. Maybe the Dems asked him to please stay silent?
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 01:06 PM
Aug 2024

I have no doubt he despises Trump. But his endorsement of Kamala comes with drawbacks. It opens up an avenue of attack against her. I can just see the rightwing response: "Incompetent warmonger of course endorses the Dems."

I would prefer he stay quiet. I don't think GWB is an evil man, but he is a weak and incompetent man.

WarGamer

(18,613 posts)
56. tweet author doesn't seem to understand the neocons definition of "Democracy"
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 02:12 PM
Aug 2024

And Shrub is quite poewrless in the GOP of 2024.

aocommunalpunch

(4,581 posts)
57. Useless waste of oxygen.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 02:40 PM
Aug 2024

Just flatline already so I can go back to not thinking about him. What a fucking disgrace.

 

GoreWon2000

(1,461 posts)
59. bushthief killed American democracy in 2000!
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 02:57 PM
Aug 2024

bushthief created the election stealing road map in Florida in 2000 that the orange turd is now using. It would be the height of hypocrisy for bushthief to endorse Harris-Walz. bush thief didn't care one bit about democracy in 2000.

wishstar

(5,829 posts)
60. Even though daddy Bush had enough sense to vote for Hillary
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 03:14 PM
Aug 2024

although momma Barbara despised Trump and stated that G HW Bush voted for Hillary, she said she wrote in Jeb on her ballot. Not surprised she couldn't bring herself to vote for Hillary since she was so snarky toward Hillary and seemed to deeply resent Bill Clinton for defeating the elder Bush.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/book-details-barbara-bushs-dislike-trump-estrangement-gop/story?id=61960776

Buckeyeblue

(6,352 posts)
63. I won't defend W. He was a horrible president
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 04:06 PM
Aug 2024

But he hasn't endorsed Trump. And he won't. He didn't speak during the convention. His silence says everything.

Sparkly

(24,885 posts)
69. Is he even sentient at this point?
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 06:22 PM
Aug 2024

I'm sorry, but he seemed to be losing his mental ability (limited as it was to begin with) back in 2004. He's done nothing since 2008 that would indicate intellectual vigor. It doesn't seem politicians seek his counsel, his endorsement, or his appearance for much of anything except the rare "all living past presidents in attendance" events.

Of course, tfg makes him look brilliant.

Mad_Machine76

(24,957 posts)
70. Do we even *want* his endorsement?
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 06:37 PM
Aug 2024

Really? I don't really even care. We can officially say he's not our worst President but he's still not somebody whose endorsement we really want, right?

DFW

(60,186 posts)
73. "Doing the right thing"
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 02:36 AM
Aug 2024

That was never W’s strong point.

(Unless Cheney gave him permission first)

Martin Eden

(15,628 posts)
74. Really shouldn't expect much from a WAR CRIMINAL
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 06:55 AM
Aug 2024

Last edited Tue Aug 27, 2024, 09:10 AM - Edit history (1)

Arguably, his crimes are worse than Trump's.

Bush and his cohorts exploited the national tragedy of 9/11 to launch the PNAC war of choice in Iraq based in a coordinated campaign of deliberate lies about ties to al Qaeda and weapons of mass destruction.

Nearly 5,000 American soldiers were killed; many times that number were grievously wounded; the final cost will be in the $trillions; the fiasco gave rise to the next generation of battle hardened terrorists; the region is still in turmoil; and upwards of a million people have died.

Passages

(4,161 posts)
75. A terrible man, and who would he influence versus Adam Kinzinger?
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 11:02 AM
Aug 2024

The Obamas and the Clintons can have him, for whatever politeness they believe is necessary. Most Americans have no respect for him nor should they.

War Criminals Among Us: Bush, Cheney, and the Eyes of the World
In which we learn how to say 'war crimes' in Malaysian.
By Charles P. Pierce Published: Jun 01, 2015


https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a35397/bush-cheney-war-crimes/

awesomerwb1

(5,103 posts)
76. He's a coward
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 11:12 AM
Aug 2024

Always has been.
I always found the "relationship" between the Obamas and the Bushs pretty weird.

Botany

(77,323 posts)
77. This mother fucker?
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 11:17 AM
Aug 2024


He had coffee and cigars with Prince Bandar whose wife paid for the room and board for
some of the 9/11 hijackers less than 1 week after the attack.
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