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sheshe2

(97,629 posts)
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 12:58 PM Aug 2024

Georgia governor seeks legal advice on removing Trump-backed Board of Election members

Sarah K. Burris
August 26, 2024 11:59AM ET

Georgia's governor is seeking legal guidance on whether he can boot three members of the state's Board of Elections who were praised by Donald Trump just months ago.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that Gov. Brian Kemp (R-GA) is requesting guidance from the state's attorney general on whether he "has the authority to remove members of the State Election Board."

"Voting rights groups, Democrats and even some Republicans have raised alarms about the rightwing majority’s recent votes," according to the report.
The three members, Janelle King, Rick Jeffares, and Dr. Janice Johnston, face ethics complaints filed earlier this month that follow their approval of changes that require election boards to search for voting discrepancies before certifying results.

Those changes have been criticized by many, including Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.


More: https://www.rawstory.com/georgia-election-board-kemp/


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Georgia governor seeks legal advice on removing Trump-backed Board of Election members (Original Post) sheshe2 Aug 2024 OP
If he tosses these clowns, he'll save Georgia taxpayers lots of money. Turbineguy Aug 2024 #1
This is great news malaise Aug 2024 #2
Yeah... Kemp will turn around and do something typically RW-obnoxious, but on this, I have to give him praise. hlthe2b Aug 2024 #3
You betcha. There's a power vacuum bubble waiting to burst on that side and he's positioning himself to fill it Cheezoholic Aug 2024 #12
Perhaps he has grown a spine?! sheshe2 Aug 2024 #5
Or maybe he doesn't like the thought of prison malaise Aug 2024 #11
Probably wants to run for President in 2028 SomedayKindaLove Aug 2024 #23
or just survival instinct ecstatic Aug 2024 #43
Excellent point. sheshe2 Aug 2024 #45
TSF trashes Marty, Brian Kemp's wife, and speak easy Aug 2024 #60
Interesting development 🤔.... anciano Aug 2024 #4
I hope he cans them. I want my vote for Harris/Walz counted brer cat Aug 2024 #6
I hope so too, brer. sheshe2 Aug 2024 #8
I hope so, too! ShazzieB Aug 2024 #29
Keep shitting on Governor Kemp, mr trmp....Keep it up spanone Aug 2024 #7
I guess Kemp didn't buy teran Aug 2024 #37
Kemp has his head screwed on straight AverageOldGuy Aug 2024 #9
Him, Youngkin, Cotton amongst others and they're all scary as hell n/t Cheezoholic Aug 2024 #13
He can't run for gov again. Clearly has eyes on a bigger prize Iris Aug 2024 #20
He's term limited. His next option may be Ossify in '26 oldsoftie Aug 2024 #24
"Aegean Stable" is an apt description Prof. Toru Tanaka Aug 2024 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author AverageOldGuy Aug 2024 #10
Here some legal advice... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #14
No he couldn't. The Supremes moonscape Aug 2024 #32
It would take years AFTER they've been disappeared... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #33
They can be disappeared too. TheKentuckian Aug 2024 #64
Who needs a Seal Team 6 extraction? His SS detail could simply send him the way of Indira Gandhi and Anwar Sadat. Marcuse Aug 2024 #59
Thank god that Kemp is even thinking straight! ( I hope) bluestarone Aug 2024 #15
I doubt THIS court will be staying away from this election. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #34
Oh, i HEAR you! bluestarone Aug 2024 #52
Get some backbone Kemp ..... Just Do It !!!! Remove the sobs !!!! Trueblue1968 Aug 2024 #16
Hoping his effort is successful surfered Aug 2024 #17
You can't substitute a BattleRow Aug 2024 #49
He's probably already been told he can't do anything. Carr the AG is a trumpster, so don't expect much from his opinion. Silent Type Aug 2024 #18
These idiots have already turned on Carr too. oldsoftie Aug 2024 #25
I think they're Republicans who don't like NY Carpetbaggers bucolic_frolic Aug 2024 #19
PLeeeze, make it so! ananda Aug 2024 #21
I think trump's win would not be good for Kemp AlexSFCA Aug 2024 #22
Pence is 65 & retained his dignity speaking the truth about trump & sticking with it. oldsoftie Aug 2024 #26
yep, the bar for GOP is so low that a bare minimum is a standout performance AlexSFCA Aug 2024 #39
Boy, would THAT be something! The former VP endorsing the VP of the opposition !! oldsoftie Aug 2024 #57
Clearly, board members posturing GA to participate in a Fascist coup GoodRaisin Aug 2024 #27
I do think, ambitions or not, the Trumpers have crossed a line MadameButterfly Aug 2024 #46
He would be setting up his state to have to defend lawsuits from other states across the GoodRaisin Aug 2024 #48
Can other states really sue over this? MadameButterfly Aug 2024 #50
The other states who certified their votes would have standing. GoodRaisin Aug 2024 #53
I didn't think they'd have standing for another state's electors MadameButterfly Aug 2024 #62
What I meant by standing is that a party can in a court of law demonstrate GoodRaisin Aug 2024 #63
THanks. That is clear and true MadameButterfly Aug 2024 #65
Not a lawyer, just offering a theory to the question you raised as to GoodRaisin Aug 2024 #66
I hope when Kamala gets elected, these lawbreakers find out there's a new Sheriff in town! BComplex Aug 2024 #28
Another benefit to hiring a former prosecutor as President! Think. Again. Aug 2024 #35
Good for Kemp! ShazzieB Aug 2024 #30
You're willing to trust a republican???? Think. Again. Aug 2024 #36
I didn't say I "trust" him. 😉 ShazzieB Aug 2024 #38
Since Kemp formally endorsed trump next week, I'm doubtful how serious he is. But we can hope. Silent Type Aug 2024 #31
Do I remember correctly? returnee Aug 2024 #40
yep. definitely a hypocrite, but trump ecstatic Aug 2024 #42
Right until it no longer serves his interest. returnee Aug 2024 #44
I think he was Secretaty of State which means he was in charge MadameButterfly Aug 2024 #47
Correct. He was running election in GA (SoS) while running against Stacey Abrams AlexSFCA Aug 2024 #61
whoa - looks like the "unity" meeting didn't go the way trump thought ecstatic Aug 2024 #41
Trump is going to go back to hating on Kemp almost VMA131Marine Aug 2024 #51
If those morons hold up the election results mdbl Aug 2024 #55
Those board members should get themselves sized for prison uniforms BrianTheEVGuy Aug 2024 #56
Kemp is busy promoting his version of republican fascism. mdbl Aug 2024 #58

hlthe2b

(113,971 posts)
3. Yeah... Kemp will turn around and do something typically RW-obnoxious, but on this, I have to give him praise.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 01:18 PM
Aug 2024

Cheezoholic

(3,719 posts)
12. You betcha. There's a power vacuum bubble waiting to burst on that side and he's positioning himself to fill it
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 01:36 PM
Aug 2024

along with other far right conservatives. He's one of those "law and order" far RW's meaning he'd be one willing to use whatever power he has to use whatever force at his disposal to make certain groups of society "comply". He's worse than The Felon, he's just a full on asshole.

malaise

(296,114 posts)
11. Or maybe he doesn't like the thought of prison
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 01:35 PM
Aug 2024

A clean up is coming- watch the proceedings

SomedayKindaLove

(1,181 posts)
23. Probably wants to run for President in 2028
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 03:23 PM
Aug 2024

Is my guess so might as well try and root out Trump now.

Could be revenge for Trump’s insults to Kemp as his wife.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
43. or just survival instinct
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 04:31 PM
Aug 2024

He knows trump still hates him - so why would he help trump become a dictator, especially when trump has already threatened his family?

brer cat

(27,587 posts)
6. I hope he cans them. I want my vote for Harris/Walz counted
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 01:21 PM
Aug 2024

and GA once again in the blue column.

sheshe2

(97,629 posts)
8. I hope so too, brer.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 01:32 PM
Aug 2024

Harris and Walz needs your vote to be counted!💙🇺🇸

Go Georgia.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
29. I hope so, too!
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 03:41 PM
Aug 2024

We all want every Dem vote to count and Georgia to land in the blue column again!

AverageOldGuy

(3,835 posts)
9. Kemp has his head screwed on straight
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 01:32 PM
Aug 2024

Kemp is popular in Georgia, thus, he knows he is safe to run for the House or Senate if he no longer wants to be governor. He knows his stature in Georgia likely will help him win this fight.

Also - I think Kemp anticipates Trump will lose and the GOP will need a savior to flush out the Aegean Stable that is now the GOP. Kemp is looking to play a big part of leading the GOP out of the wilderness. .






 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
24. He's term limited. His next option may be Ossify in '26
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 03:27 PM
Aug 2024

He COULD go for the House but I dont know where his residence would be.
The Trumpers here HATE him. They say the Democrats paid him off. Reffensberger too> And now even the AG, who trump endorsed, because HE came out against some trump-led bullshit.

Prof. Toru Tanaka

(2,926 posts)
54. "Aegean Stable" is an apt description
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 06:41 PM
Aug 2024

for what the self-described “Stable Genius” has done to the party of Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt.

Cleaning up the mess he and his ilk have created will truly be a Herculean task.

Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
14. Here some legal advice...
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 01:44 PM
Aug 2024

Biden could have them kidnapped and dropped on a deserted island and would face no legal consequences.

Seriously, he could.

(The immunity ruling must be overturned)

 

Think. Again.

(22,456 posts)
33. It would take years AFTER they've been disappeared...
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 04:09 PM
Aug 2024

...for a supreme court ruling against it.

Marcuse

(9,010 posts)
59. Who needs a Seal Team 6 extraction? His SS detail could simply send him the way of Indira Gandhi and Anwar Sadat.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 11:19 PM
Aug 2024

bluestarone

(22,179 posts)
15. Thank god that Kemp is even thinking straight! ( I hope)
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 01:47 PM
Aug 2024

My concern is, IF he does would this be something that would go all the way to the Supreme court? (maybe this is one of their (TFG's) plans?) THIS court better stay away from this election.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
18. He's probably already been told he can't do anything. Carr the AG is a trumpster, so don't expect much from his opinion.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 02:00 PM
Aug 2024

Hopefully, I'm wrong.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
25. These idiots have already turned on Carr too.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 03:28 PM
Aug 2024

Simply because of ONE decision he made that they didnt like

bucolic_frolic

(55,141 posts)
19. I think they're Republicans who don't like NY Carpetbaggers
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 02:09 PM
Aug 2024

But whatever the reason, kudos to any incumbent Republican who tries to run a fair election here, there, or anywhere

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
22. I think trump's win would not be good for Kemp
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 03:20 PM
Aug 2024

He is serving a 2nd term. What’s after that - senatorial campaign or even higher office? Trump would not endorse him which may sink his chances in national GOP. He reminds me of Pence. What is he doing now? Looks like absolutely nothing.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
26. Pence is 65 & retained his dignity speaking the truth about trump & sticking with it.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 03:31 PM
Aug 2024

One of the few who didnt go back on every word he said & then endorse. He even went so far as to say trump didnt deserve to be president.
The NERVE!!!

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
39. yep, the bar for GOP is so low that a bare minimum is a standout performance
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 04:25 PM
Aug 2024

Pence saves his dignity and it doesn’t seem like he has political future if trump wins. Same with Kemp. Both will benefit significantly if Harris wins. Pence, in particular, should endorse Harris. Then, we can say that he did more than bare minimum.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
57. Boy, would THAT be something! The former VP endorsing the VP of the opposition !!
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 08:17 PM
Aug 2024

heads would explode.

GoodRaisin

(10,922 posts)
27. Clearly, board members posturing GA to participate in a Fascist coup
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 03:32 PM
Aug 2024

should be removed from the positions they are openly abusing. Kemp is making sure he doesn’t get dragged along with the fascists when the shit starts flying.

MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
46. I do think, ambitions or not, the Trumpers have crossed a line
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 04:43 PM
Aug 2024

even Kemp can't tolerate. Ironic since he purged voter roles and didn't recuse himself of being referee for the election that elected him Governor. It should be Stacy Abrams in his place.

Corruption was fine for him then. Even for Raffensburger. But now they are saying, wait a minute, we didn't mean things to go THIS far. We just do the small time stuff, tip an election in our favor. Not the big permanently-ending-democracy stuff.



GoodRaisin

(10,922 posts)
48. He would be setting up his state to have to defend lawsuits from other states across the
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 05:07 PM
Aug 2024

country for disenfranchasing their vote in a federal election. Unlike his own in-state corruption I believe he sees this as a losing proposition for himself if he goes along.

MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
50. Can other states really sue over this?
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 05:19 PM
Aug 2024

I hope you are right. And yes, this is much bigger and involves the whole country.

The problem is the Supreme Court. How to keep them out of this.

GoodRaisin

(10,922 posts)
53. The other states who certified their votes would have standing.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 05:41 PM
Aug 2024

Past that I have no idea how it would all unwind through the courts.

MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
62. I didn't think they'd have standing for another state's electors
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 03:34 PM
Aug 2024

Though of course every state affects all of us. What matters is legal definition of standing, which I infer you know something about.

GoodRaisin

(10,922 posts)
63. What I meant by standing is that a party can in a court of law demonstrate
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 10:08 PM
Aug 2024

that it has connection to and incurred harm from the unlawful actions of another party. Standing gives the aggrieved party(s) the right to bring a lawsuit.

In this case the connection is a federal election (which binds together the electoral votes of all the states) and the harm is the disenfranchisement of voters in states that have certified their vote when one state decides to break the rules. In that sense I believe other states could prove standing to bring a lawsuit against Georgia if Georgia refused to certify it’s vote, resulting in not achieving the 270 electoral votes needed to declare a winner.

MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
65. THanks. That is clear and true
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 11:56 AM
Aug 2024

Thanks for explaining. Are you a lawyer or just well-informed?

GoodRaisin

(10,922 posts)
66. Not a lawyer, just offering a theory to the question you raised as to
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 12:28 PM
Aug 2024

reasons why Kemp might not want to cross this line.

BComplex

(9,914 posts)
28. I hope when Kamala gets elected, these lawbreakers find out there's a new Sheriff in town!
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 03:38 PM
Aug 2024

We need to make this shit a felony with definite jail time.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
30. Good for Kemp!
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 03:44 PM
Aug 2024

I see a lot of speculation in these replies about Kemp's possible motivations, but I don't honestly care. I think this is a good thing regardless of what he may be hoping to gain personally.

ShazzieB

(22,590 posts)
38. I didn't say I "trust" him. 😉
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 04:25 PM
Aug 2024

I just think he's got the right idea about this particular thing.

If I recall correctly, he resisted TSF's attempts to mess with Georgia's election results in 2020, so I'm not surprised that he's looking for ways to do that in 2024.

I'll leave it to others to speculate about his motives if they wish to do so.

 

Silent Type

(12,412 posts)
31. Since Kemp formally endorsed trump next week, I'm doubtful how serious he is. But we can hope.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 03:56 PM
Aug 2024

returnee

(926 posts)
40. Do I remember correctly?
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 04:26 PM
Aug 2024

Didn’t he run against Stacy Abrams for governor, while he was attorney general, and didn’t he use his power over elections to his advantage?

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
42. yep. definitely a hypocrite, but trump
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 04:29 PM
Aug 2024

has crossed him and his wife so he probably is all about following the law now.

returnee

(926 posts)
44. Right until it no longer serves his interest.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 04:31 PM
Aug 2024

Thanks for confirming my unreliable memory.

MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
47. I think he was Secretaty of State which means he was in charge
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 04:53 PM
Aug 2024

of the election he was running in, and using the power of his office to purge likely Dem voters.

I don't think he's a hypocrite so much as having a line he won't cross. Remember Liz Cheney, who has been a hero standing up to Trump and her party, nevertheless voted against the Votings Rights bills proposed in Congress. Seemingly not getting the connection to how these bills would have protected us from the dictatorial takover she is so trying to prevent.

The Republicans who come over to our side must be credited for their consciences however inadequate and late. You don't spend your life in this Republicans party without some damage to principles. And you pay dearly for expressing any at all.

AlexSFCA

(6,319 posts)
61. Correct. He was running election in GA (SoS) while running against Stacey Abrams
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 06:35 AM
Aug 2024

He strategically purged thousands of voters from registration rolls leasing up the election. The lines at specific precincts were extreme. GOP is essentially violating constitution by denying the constitutional right to vote via voter registration system.

ecstatic

(35,075 posts)
41. whoa - looks like the "unity" meeting didn't go the way trump thought
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 04:28 PM
Aug 2024

He probably made so many admissions of illegal activity and plans in the meeting.

VMA131Marine

(5,270 posts)
51. Trump is going to go back to hating on Kemp almost
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 05:32 PM
Aug 2024

as quickly as he started singing his praises again. Maybe Trump had an inkling Kemp was looking at this and wanted to try to intimidate him into reconsidering. If Kemp does do this he is going to take serious heat from the MAGA faithful.

BrianTheEVGuy

(697 posts)
56. Those board members should get themselves sized for prison uniforms
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 07:56 PM
Aug 2024

That will come in handy for them for their long federal prison sentences.

mdbl

(8,650 posts)
58. Kemp is busy promoting his version of republican fascism.
Mon Aug 26, 2024, 08:52 PM
Aug 2024

I wonder who he's asking for advice? Sidney Powell? He already passed anti-union laws and anti-voter laws. He obviously doesn't care what's good for his state, just his party. The only thing he did was thwart Dump's attempt at a coup. The question is,, what would he do next time? His behavior in office doesn't give me any comfort.

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