JD Vance praises teenage rape survivors being forced to give birth because it can be "healing" for them

[Dennis Donovan]

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JD Vance praises Tudor Dixon, who said teenage rape survivors being forced to give birth can be “healing” for them: “The great Tudor Dixon!”

Vile video at link

He's more than weird - he's also cruel!

[dalton99a]

1. Evil scum.

[Warpy]

45. Just an ordinary ignorant, smug male

who doesn't give a damn what happens to anybody else if it punches his ticket to heaven.

I don't know what planet he's living on, but being confronted with 18 years hard labor raising a baby nobody wanted isn't going to "heal" anyone, especially that baby, and the farther under 18 the unwilling mother is, the worse life will be for all of them.

But he goes to heaven, so all that misery is worthwhile.

[Maeve]

2. It can also wreck their lives forever

Too bad he can't empathize

[grumpyduck]

3. Keep talking, dickhead,

keep pissing off those female voters. Go for it.

[BaronChocula]

38. Exactly!

Shady Vance seems ignorant of of the names Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock whose republican ramblings on rape and abortion tanked their senate bids. Keep talkin' Shady. Keep talkin'.

[uponit7771]

48. Right ?!

[pandr32]

4. How would he know?

[bluesbassman]

10. Exactly.

Unless I’m grossly mistaken, he’s neither a woman nor a clinical psychologist so he needs to keep his “healing” opinions to himself and STFU.

[Klarkashton]

5. I'd like to see how he would feel if it was his daughter

Instead of someone else's.
Let's say the rapist was trump for example.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

6. Just when you thought he couldn't be creepier.

[BrianTheEVGuy]

7. Gosh

It would be absolutely terrible for us if Vance’s views on this topic were spread far and wide, especially with undecided voters.

[MagickMuffin]

8. Couch Vance, unless this has happened to you, then STFU

You have no clue what a teenage rape survivors is going through. I do as it happened to me!

[Mossfern]

22. From a fellow survivor:

My sentiments exactly!

[B.See]

40. Vance's mindset is typical of

women hating misogynists, sexual predators, wife-beaters, and RAPISTS. If fkrs like him fell victim to the same sht they defend, they'd change their tune, I think.

[Sky Jewels]

9. He didn't repeat her words though, did he?

Calling Tudor Dixon “great” is quite different than him parroting the rape victim comment.

Don’t get me wrong, he’s obviously a women-despising forced birther Christofascist Taliban scumbag.

[Ms. Toad]

18. Thank you.

It is clear from many responses in this thread that they believe Vance said this (or specifically endorsed the comment).

It is not clear that Vance even knew Dixon made the comment.

[PedroXimenez]

11. Tudor Dixon famous for the best campaign ad ever (Gram died alone!)

the video says worst ad, that must be a typo

[Bayard]

12. To be redundant: What the hell is wrong with this guy?

Oh, sure, a little 10 year old rape victim needs to be, "healed." How about a male rape victim? They don't get pregnant but they're scarred for life.

If all these old white guys were forced to give birth you'd sure be hearing a different tune.

Go away.

[JustAnotherGen]

13. This weirdo

Doesn't know shit from shinola

[central scrutinizer]

14. Any proposals to have the father provide child support for at least 18 years?

I thought not.

[Ms. Toad]

19. That's already the law. n/t

[Lifeafter70]

53. And keeps the victim tied to their rapist for 18 years

It's insane.

[Ms. Toad]

54. I didn't say it was a good law.

But collecting child support is the right of the child, not the parent (and a parent can't generally forfeit what the child is entitled to).

But there are steps the woman can take to minimize the contact. Not necessarily effective, particularly with today's courts - and definitely not ideal.

[Lifeafter70]

55. Sorry did not mean to imply that at all

Unfortunately my daughter had to make that choice. So it hits home for me. She terminated her attacker's parental rights.

[Ms. Toad]

56. Good for her.

[Hekate]

15. JD makes me want to vomit

[Buckeyeblue]

16. Tudor was beaten badly in Michigan's governor's election

So I don't know why Vance would repeat that same strategy.

[madinmaryland]

17. That's not just weird, but fucking sick.

[spanone]

20. Sick Fvck.

[wendyb-NC]

21. He's like TFG

Absolutely abominable, .

[sinkingfeeling]

23. I'll ask again, "how the hell would he know?"

[AllaN01Bear]

24. jd,,, snork.

[TommieMommy]

25. What an asshole

Being a rape victim he will never understand. That horror lives with you forever. Forced to have the baby will not help. What a horrible person he is.😡

[maxsolomon]

26. All he does here is shout her out;

he doesn't explicitly agree with her sentiments on bearing a rapist's children.

Her position is consistent with the absolutist Anti-Choice world: no abortions are acceptable for any reason. I have several Conservative Catholic relatives that would agree (and 2 of them have had IVF twins).

[ProudMNDemocrat]

27. SICK PUPPY thst one.

FORCING a rape victim to carry a rapists' baby is reminding that female of the violence that was perpetrated upon her.

SICK

[Torchlight]

28. Sounds like his first step in trying to shape the narrative

and trying get in front of something he's done we might be reading about in the next few weeks.

[Oopsie Daisy]

29. Hate is a toxic emotion... I know this. But, I honestly and truly and completely HATE him (and Trump.)

[ancianita]

30. There's nothing healing about the years of suffering caused by birthing rapists' babies.

JD Vance breaks 1 commandment & commits 2 deadly sins. Vance is one evil, sick fuck.

[ailsagirl]

31. .....

[IronLionZion]

32. And Big Gretch kicked her ass by 10.5 points in the general election

apparently Michigan voters don't like that sort of attitude.

[True Blue American]

33. JD Vance needs mental treatment

No wonder Romney and other Senators despise him.

[Grins]

34. "...the great Tudor Dixon?"

In the 2022 election she lost by a whopping 10.6% of the vote! It would have been worse if not for the other SIX candidates on the ballot.

This is the first I have heard of her since then. After November 2022 she disappeared, with the rest of the Michigan GOP turning to cannibalism!

[iscooterliberally]

35. My wife told me she was raped back in high school way before I knew her.

Years later as an adult she was playing darts in a sports bar when some drunk came up behind her and groped her. She sent him into the back of squad car with a broken nose. A few days later she got a visit from the Marine Corp. She's only 5' 2" and when they saw her they said, "sorry to bother you" and let it go. I guess she punched out an active duty Marine. Years after that she picked me up in a bar when we were both in our mid 30s. I was the bass player and she was a single mom with 2 sons in elementary school at the time. We've been together 25 years this month. Maybe someone should tell JD Vance that recovering from a broken nose is very "healing" too.

[twodogsbarking]

36. MF SOB is trying to make me sick and the bastard is succeeding.

I think I hit the main expletives.

[rich7862]

37. Vance the evil scum of the world

Vance the evil scum of the world keeps trying to destroy women. This pervert needs to be removed as a nominee.

Republicans only show how barbaric and tyrannical they really are by keeping this devil on the ballot!

[Botany]

39. Well there goes another million or so votes. How many women have been the victims of sexual assault?

Keep talking J.D. Guy-Liner. Keep talking.

[Ilsa]

42. Over the course of their lives, it's about 1 out of 3.

That's an old statistic, but I suspect it's still close. I'm guessing maybe 5-10% result in pregnancy, but I bet the numbers are really unknown.

[Botany]

44. Between Trump being an adjudicated rapist and J.D. Vance's comments about carrying your rapist's

… baby, menopausal women, and other crap how could a single female voter ever vote for
Trump and or any man who cares and or loves for any woman vote for those troglodytes?

Btw as a father and a grandfather Trump’s comments about his daughter being “a hot piece
of ass,” put me around the bend with anger.

[Ilsa]

49. Truly, I cannot understand how they reconcile

such violence with "family values," unless FV really simply means subjugation of women, in the extreme. Yet, Vance's wife is an attorney. same for Tom Cotton (I think) and others. The cognitive dissonance must warp them emotionally.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

41. I do know people who have actively chosen to give birth after being raped. The point is not being forced to do so, of

course.

[Abolishinist]

43. Depends on the circumstances. Were they in a town or in the country. Did she scream for help?

Was she pledged to be married?

From Deuteronomy 22:23-29

23 If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, 24 you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death—the young woman because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man’s wife. You must purge the evil from among you.

25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a young woman pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the woman; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders a neighbor, 27 for the man found the young woman out in the country, and though the betrothed woman screamed, there was no one to rescue her. 28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.

[ShazzieB]

46. That is a standard "pro-life" claim.

Shady Vance didn't come up with this nutty idea, and neither did Tudor Dixon. They're both just spouting something that is standard forced birther rhetoric, along with such gems as "abortion is a second act of violence against a woman who is raped," " a child is not a punishment," and "both victims — the woman and her child — deserve our unconditional support."

The above are all direct quotes from the website of a "pro-life" group (feministsforlife.org), and these ideas are constantly put forward as reasons not to allow rape and incest exceptions to abortion bans.

What these people don't seem to grasp is that women and girls are individuals and need to be able to make their own individual decisions about such very personal matters. There's no "one side fits all" answer to what to do about an unwanted pregnancy, no matter how it came about. It's a personal decision, and it's no one else's damned business.

Unfortunately, these people think it is their damned business, and they have some powerful backers, including the Catholic Church. We can't let that stop us from fighting for reproductive rights, of course, but we need to be aware of who we're dealing with and the beliefs that motivate them to try to outlaw abortion.

[DemonGoddess]

47. Vile. This man is a lunatic

[ck4829]

50. Kick

[Mz Pip]

51. Serious question here

Was Tudor Dixon raped and force to give birth or is she just flapping her jaws about something she never experienced?

[Cirsium]

52. Misleading

JD Vance didn't praise teenage rape survivors being forced to give birth because it can be "healing" for them. He praised Tudor Dixon.

Here is what Dixon said about teenage rape survivors being forced to give birth:

“I’ve talked to those people who were the child of a rape victim and the bond that those two people made. And the fact that out of that tragedy, there was healing through that baby. It’s something that we don’t think about because we assume that that story is someone who was taken from the front yard then returned. That’s generally not the story there. And those voices, the babies of rape victims that have come forward, are very powerful when you hear their story and what the truth is behind that. It’s very hard to not stand up for those people.”

The truth about Dixon and Vance is bad enough and needs no embellishment.

[Ms. Toad]

57. He praised Tudor Dixon, not teenage rape survivors.

It is Tudor Dixon who made the assertion, not Vance.