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Nevilledog

(55,096 posts)
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 07:12 PM Aug 2024

Arlington National cemetery tried to stop Trump




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From NPR’s ⁦@QuilLawrence:⁩ Arlington National Cemetery officials say Trump campaign staff verbally abused and pushed aside cemetery official who objected to filming and photography at gravesites

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Arlington National cemetery tried to stop Trump (Original Post) Nevilledog Aug 2024 OP
Link to NPR story: Ocelot II Aug 2024 #1
Let there Be Major BCKFIRRE for the Fucking Treasonous Asshole. Cha Aug 2024 #2
I read he smiled & gave a thumbs up. -nt CrispyQ Aug 2024 #3
So much for "a very solemn ceremony". Prof. Toru Tanaka Aug 2024 #24
Yes. Here he is in all of his GLORIOUS, IGNORANT, VILE ANTI-AMERICAN IMBICILITY: AZ8theist Aug 2024 #35
They are all smiling. It's gotta be the family of the dead. I don't understand this. mucifer Aug 2024 #37
Yeah, and a couple of them are flashing hand signs of their own. misanthrope Aug 2024 #47
The hospice nurse in me says if this helps the family grieve it's ok . But, there are other families at Arlington and mucifer Aug 2024 #57
I doubt the family had the idea of Trump using Arlington in campaign material misanthrope Aug 2024 #62
I try to think outside the box here. The family is grieving. They clearly love trump . I think mucifer Aug 2024 #66
What he did was AGAINST THE RULES of Arlington. AZ8theist Aug 2024 #75
But just you watch. He may change the mucifer Aug 2024 #81
What do you suppose their hand gestures mean? HoosierDebbie Aug 2024 #60
Couldn't tell you misanthrope Aug 2024 #63
Hook 'em horns? Looks like a bunch of hateful MAGA idiots that need arresting. mucholderthandirt Aug 2024 #64
The Sick Part Is That DallasNE Aug 2024 #78
How would you feel SARose Aug 2024 #46
Hideously vile. calimary Aug 2024 #69
This is despicable Blue_Roses Aug 2024 #79
He Did. GB_RN Aug 2024 #44
No security at the cemetery? LiberalFighter Aug 2024 #4
I can already predict who will come on this thread to present the Trump point of view Prairie Gates Aug 2024 #5
Tell us. As some might not catch those individuals. usaf-vet Aug 2024 #41
Can't keep their lies straight... EarthAbides Aug 2024 #6
doublespeak PedroXimenez Aug 2024 #10
This is national news malaise Aug 2024 #7
Why didn't the call security or the police? Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #8
The pictures from this indecency induces a violent gag reflex rockbluff botanist Aug 2024 #9
The campaign used those families since they Klarkashton Aug 2024 #17
I would demand a Bible and some gold shoes . Permanut Aug 2024 #55
He gave them nothing. Klarkashton Aug 2024 #59
Bet you're right.. Permanut Aug 2024 #61
They Are Trying To Whitewash Trump Baron2024 Aug 2024 #11
Baron 2024 you are absolutely correct. Diamond_Dog Aug 2024 #21
TRUMP IS A FUCKING DRAFT DODGER!!! AZ8theist Aug 2024 #36
"I don't think that in a million years he ever would have thought to go to Arlington and lay a wreath" YET HE DID! usaf-vet Aug 2024 #43
Only for a photo op, nothing sacred about that MagickMuffin Aug 2024 #56
Magats do what they want gab13by13 Aug 2024 #12
This is disgusting and disgraceful Coexist Aug 2024 #13
This Steven Cheung guy is fast elbowing his way up to the front of the Trump Parade of Assholes. NBachers Aug 2024 #14
He's got a butt-fuck UGLY face. . . DinahMoeHum Aug 2024 #20
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall . . . NBachers Aug 2024 #26
More like BattleRow Aug 2024 #28
First person I thought of was slightlv Aug 2024 #30
Sontarans... TommyT139 Aug 2024 #67
His head looks like his mom was in labor for 962 hours. OMGWTF Aug 2024 #40
You flip that pic of Cheung's face dweller Aug 2024 #50
protocol disaster from day 1. pansypoo53219 Aug 2024 #15
Corey Lewdenowski is back on the job! flying_wahini Aug 2024 #16
Certainly has the whiff of that horrible bastard. Klarkashton Aug 2024 #18
He Was There DET Aug 2024 #19
I thought of him immediately, and the way he grabbed the female reporter at a rally Walleye Aug 2024 #33
If there is federal law about it, prosecute every slimey traitortrump asshole involved. Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2024 #22
Trump Campaign Used Section 60 for Campaign Stunt LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #23
What an effin' asshole bully. ancianita Aug 2024 #25
I won't forget this Steven Cheung piece of shit. nt The Unmitigated Gall Aug 2024 #27
Good catch by @FixMediaNow chowder66 Aug 2024 #29
I wonder why security wasn't called. nt mcar Aug 2024 #31
Democrats have their talking points for tomorrow. i just hope the media lets them speak on it Takket Aug 2024 #32
Didn't the network news dutifully run the footage and report on it like it was a legitimate story? Walleye Aug 2024 #34
I AM SO FKING SICK OF THIS MONSTER! OMGWTF Aug 2024 #38
That guy has a 2nd nose Mountainguy Aug 2024 #39
Trump is despicable MissouriDem47 Aug 2024 #42
Trump is a thug. yardwork Aug 2024 #45
Trumpists just don't have any boundaries when it comes to respect for those who gave their lives for our country. Martin68 Aug 2024 #48
The fucking nerve of the goddman nazis. spanone Aug 2024 #49
Sounds like someone needs to be arrested mdbl Aug 2024 #51
The tattooed lady on the far left and the one beside tRump are throwing heavy metal Devils BamaRefugee Aug 2024 #52
This motherfucker has desecrated Arlington National Cemetery Blue Owl Aug 2024 #53
Yes, and he did that simply by being there. Towlie Aug 2024 #68
So, what is the penalty for this? BlueSpot Aug 2024 #54
You know that cemetary is covered in surveillance video cameras. Lunabell Aug 2024 #58
Violence so he can have a photo-op you say? Sounds familiar underpants Aug 2024 #65
I'm curious about what was promised to those family members who... Hugin Aug 2024 #70
a digital trading card that has his likeness and onethatcares Aug 2024 #73
What a great idea, though not digital but real trading cards of MAGA idiots. Boebert, MTG, Vance,..... EarnestPutz Aug 2024 #80
how do we put it into action? onethatcares Aug 2024 #85
Kind of late in the game, but a DNC fundraider, selling them, would've been good. EarnestPutz Aug 2024 #87
I'd like to know EXACTLY what was said. SidneyR Aug 2024 #71
Apparently MAGATs can't read orangecrush Aug 2024 #72
Like his goons breaking into his physicians office to sieze records. They will do anything the orange mobster wants Evolve Dammit Aug 2024 #74
What's with the slander against the cemetery staff? maxsolomon Aug 2024 #76
TFG is using footage and photos his campaign took at Arlington National Cemetary for political purposes LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #77
This desecration should go into an anti-Trump TV ad asap Number9Dream Aug 2024 #82
That is assault and tresspass PurgedVoter Aug 2024 #83
Kick BlueWavePsych Aug 2024 #84
Psychopaths feel they're above laws, rules & norms. They feel entitled 2 do what ever they want. LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2024 #86

AZ8theist

(7,485 posts)
35. Yes. Here he is in all of his GLORIOUS, IGNORANT, VILE ANTI-AMERICAN IMBICILITY:
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 09:04 PM
Aug 2024


What a mother-fucking disgusting piece of shit Dotard is.......unbelievable

misanthrope

(9,542 posts)
47. Yeah, and a couple of them are flashing hand signs of their own.
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 10:03 PM
Aug 2024

My hunch: Trump's team discovered at least one family of friendlies among the dead, then reached out to see if they would like to attend the grave of their deceased relative with Trump. They jumped at the opportunity to be with a celebrity, and the Trump campaign simply spun it as the family inviting Trump to the graveside. That was intended as cover.

mucifer

(25,698 posts)
57. The hospice nurse in me says if this helps the family grieve it's ok . But, there are other families at Arlington and
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 10:39 PM
Aug 2024

they need to be respected.

misanthrope

(9,542 posts)
62. I doubt the family had the idea of Trump using Arlington in campaign material
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 01:16 AM
Aug 2024

then successfully reached out to his organization who took their suggestion and ran with it. I think the idea came from the campaign. Which means at its core it isn't about the family at all but his polls.

mucifer

(25,698 posts)
66. I try to think outside the box here. The family is grieving. They clearly love trump . I think
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 06:54 AM
Aug 2024

for this specific family him being there with his thumbs up photo might actually be healing to them as they grieve. But, at the same time it is triggering other grieving families who feel disrespected when a photo like that is taken near where their loved ones are buried.

Yes, it's clear trump has absolutely no goal in helping these families. he is only there to help himself. But, he probably did help this family and some other maga families in their grieving.

AZ8theist

(7,485 posts)
75. What he did was AGAINST THE RULES of Arlington.
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 02:03 PM
Aug 2024

Reports indicated his MAGAt teams "pushed" their way onto sacred ground after being told it's not allowed.
He's just a vile, disgusting excuse for a human. Doesn't matter how it may have helped the family, it's another example of him being a dick.

mucifer

(25,698 posts)
81. But just you watch. He may change the
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 04:01 PM
Aug 2024

rules at Arlington so that being a dick there is acceptable.

That’s what he’s doing changing the rules and the culture.

misanthrope

(9,542 posts)
63. Couldn't tell you
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 01:19 AM
Aug 2024

Looks they have their index fingers and pinkies extended, like metal fans making the devil horns.



DallasNE

(8,018 posts)
78. The Sick Part Is That
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 03:05 PM
Aug 2024

Trump negotiated the conditions that eventually led to the attack that killed those 13 Americans and allowed all of those American weapons to fall into the hands of the Taliban. And Trump would do the same thing with Ukraine if given the opportunity.

SARose

(1,831 posts)
46. How would you feel
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 09:46 PM
Aug 2024

If Major Navas was your husband, son, father? See tombstone to the left.

I would be outraged!

Marine Raider
The Marine Raider Regiment consists of a Headquarters Company and three Marine Raider Battalions (1st, 2d and 3d). The Regiment provides tailored military combat-skills training and advisor support for identified foreign forces in order to enhance their tactical capabilities and to prepare the environment as directed by USSOCOM as well as the capability to form the nucleus of a Joint Special Operations Task Force. Marines and Sailors of Marine Raider Regiment train, advise, and assist friendly host nation forces - including naval and maritime military and paramilitary forces - to enable them to support their governments' internal security and stability, to counter subversion and to reduce the risk of violence from internal and external threats. Regiment deployments are coordinated by MARSOC, through USSOCOM, in accordance with engagement priorities for Overseas Contingency Operations.

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Purple Heart Recipient, too.

For God’s sakes!

Capt. Moises A. Navas was killed in action on March 8, 2020, while accompanying Iraqi security forces during a mission to eliminate an Islamic State stronghold in Iraq.
Navas, known as “Mo,” was born in Panama and grew up in Maryland. He joined the Marine Corps in 2004 and served multiple deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan.
The 34-year-old is survived by his wife, Liset, and four children a daughter and three sons.
“The Gold Star Family Home Program will allow us to stay in Sneads Ferry, NC with our military family and community. This will give our kids much-needed stability and security and allow me to provide for the children without having to worry about the financial stress of a mortgage,” said Liset.
Tunnel to Towers paid off the mortgage on the Navas family’s home in October of 2020.


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calimary

(90,393 posts)
69. Hideously vile.
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 11:09 AM
Aug 2024

What are we looking at? A self-styled “victim” getting revenge on the gravestone of a deceased?

Cuz that’s how it looks, or how it could easily be interpreted.

Blue_Roses

(13,901 posts)
79. This is despicable
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 03:22 PM
Aug 2024

and SO disrespectful. I am appalled that he would actually think this would be a good idea. What a moron.

GB_RN

(3,574 posts)
44. He Did.
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 09:38 PM
Aug 2024

I’ve seen the photo. Cantaloupe Caligula the Corpulent is so rude, condescending, and sleazy, plus, a narcissistic, sociopathic whingeing, douchebag.

usaf-vet

(7,829 posts)
41. Tell us. As some might not catch those individuals.
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 09:28 PM
Aug 2024

Having had the honor of visiting Arlington, including the Tome of the Unknowns. I hope there is a federal law that will come into play and sanction EVERYONE who desecrated the site. Especially the adjoining headstone that they trampled on.

My guess is that the USMC individual they had their picture taken around would have been the first to tell them, "Hell, no, don't do this!"

EarthAbides

(453 posts)
6. Can't keep their lies straight...
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 07:26 PM
Aug 2024

First they claim there was no altercation and they have it on film that there was no altercation and then they say... "The fact is that a private photographer was permitted on the premises and for whatever reason an unnamed individual, clearly suffering from a mental health episode, decided to physically block members of President Trump's team during a very solemn ceremony," Cheung said in the statement.

These people are so despicable...

PedroXimenez

(673 posts)
10. doublespeak
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 07:44 PM
Aug 2024

like one day him saying "I love Nazis" then the next day saying "I hate Nazis". Then when people say he loves Nazis they yell Liars! He said he hates Nazis!

Irish_Dem

(81,904 posts)
8. Why didn't the call security or the police?
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 07:30 PM
Aug 2024

Oh never mind.
I don't know why I even bother asking.

rockbluff botanist

(360 posts)
9. The pictures from this indecency induces a violent gag reflex
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 07:38 PM
Aug 2024

The families and trump are gathered around the grave site with thumbs up and all grinning like demented monkeys. They deserve each other.

Klarkashton

(5,360 posts)
17. The campaign used those families since they
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 08:22 PM
Aug 2024

Are magas and blame Biden for what happened. They drove them there.
He probably bought them all quarter pounders and gave them autographed maga hats afterwards. Thus the big smiles and thumbs up.

Permanut

(8,471 posts)
61. Bet you're right..
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 12:42 AM
Aug 2024

Navy vet here; My Dad, Mom, my Father-in-law and Mother-in-law and all of my uncles are in Willamette National Cemetery. Hallowed ground that has NEVER been desecrated like this.

 

Baron2024

(1,492 posts)
11. They Are Trying To Whitewash Trump
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 07:46 PM
Aug 2024

Trump is anti-military and anti-veteran. His team is trying to counter that perception. I think that Trump is realizing that he might lose to Harris, so he might actually be listening to his advisors more. This whole staged appearance at Arlington is designed to cover up Trump's real contempt for the military. I don't think that it is Trump's idea. I don't think that in a million years he ever would have thought to go to Arlington and lay a wreath. The whole thing is staged. It is troubling because it may appeal to low information voters who don't understand that Trump could care less about our veterans.

AZ8theist

(7,485 posts)
36. TRUMP IS A FUCKING DRAFT DODGER!!!
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 09:09 PM
Aug 2024

When is the media going to focus on Private "bone spurs"??????????????

Why was it SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fucking easy to "Swiftboat" John Kerry (who ACTUALLY SERVED) and then to IGNORE..



A TRAITOR WHO IS AN ACTUAL DRAFT DODGER???????*

(*These are rhetorical questions, of course, because we all know the Reich Wing bias of the MSM.)

usaf-vet

(7,829 posts)
43. "I don't think that in a million years he ever would have thought to go to Arlington and lay a wreath" YET HE DID!
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 09:32 PM
Aug 2024

NBachers

(19,510 posts)
14. This Steven Cheung guy is fast elbowing his way up to the front of the Trump Parade of Assholes.
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 08:16 PM
Aug 2024

flying_wahini

(8,279 posts)
16. Corey Lewdenowski is back on the job!
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 08:18 PM
Aug 2024

What do you bet he was here?
And that’s why. They strong armed their way in and got their shot.

Hermit-The-Prog

(36,631 posts)
22. If there is federal law about it, prosecute every slimey traitortrump asshole involved.
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 08:32 PM
Aug 2024

It's the National Cemetery, not a political stage.

chowder66

(12,379 posts)
29. Good catch by @FixMediaNow
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 08:48 PM
Aug 2024

Fix Media Now (by the Media and Democracy Project)
@FixMediaNow
It is disgraceful that as part of this report,
@quillawrence
includes Trump’s accusation about Afghanistan withdrawal with none of the context that Pompeo and Trump very deliberately created the conditions for chaos by, for instance, releasing 5,000 Taliban fighters from prison.


Takket

(23,749 posts)
32. Democrats have their talking points for tomorrow. i just hope the media lets them speak on it
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 08:50 PM
Aug 2024

but they'll probably just ignore it

Walleye

(45,120 posts)
34. Didn't the network news dutifully run the footage and report on it like it was a legitimate story?
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 08:54 PM
Aug 2024

MissouriDem47

(429 posts)
42. Trump is despicable
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 09:31 PM
Aug 2024

Trump and his entourage invading a National Cemetery for a photo op is beyond despicable. Why any veteran or active duty military members would support him is beyond my comprehension. This is just one more example for his hatred of his betters that served.

Martin68

(27,942 posts)
48. Trumpists just don't have any boundaries when it comes to respect for those who gave their lives for our country.
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 10:04 PM
Aug 2024

Even animals have more respect for the dead.

BamaRefugee

(3,892 posts)
52. The tattooed lady on the far left and the one beside tRump are throwing heavy metal Devils
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 10:18 PM
Aug 2024

Horns with their hands.
Are they trying to ward off the Orange Anal Wart, or reveling in his Satanic power?

Blue Owl

(59,364 posts)
53. This motherfucker has desecrated Arlington National Cemetery
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 10:18 PM
Aug 2024

and every soldier buried there — lock him the fuck up.

BlueSpot

(1,310 posts)
54. So, what is the penalty for this?
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 10:21 PM
Aug 2024

And how would that unfold?

Genuinely curious. I mean, if they just need someone to file a complaint, that would be easy.

 

Lunabell

(7,309 posts)
58. You know that cemetary is covered in surveillance video cameras.
Tue Aug 27, 2024, 10:46 PM
Aug 2024

Probably with sound. The video will show the alleged shoving of the caretaker. And, if I'm not mistaken, on Federal grounds will make it a federal crime. I hope the videos captured the whole thing and those bullies are prosecuted.

Hugin

(37,922 posts)
70. I'm curious about what was promised to those family members who...
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 11:26 AM
Aug 2024

Showed up? Tennis shoes? Money? An air freshener? A two for one coupon for a trip under a bus?

Of course, none of it will materialize, except for the bus trip.

onethatcares

(17,002 posts)
73. a digital trading card that has his likeness and
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 12:17 PM
Aug 2024

"Some gave all, he gave nothing " on it

 

EarnestPutz

(2,843 posts)
80. What a great idea, though not digital but real trading cards of MAGA idiots. Boebert, MTG, Vance,.....
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 03:46 PM
Aug 2024

.....Gaetz, Trump as the "gold" card and naturally many others. "Collect them all!"

onethatcares

(17,002 posts)
85. how do we put it into action?
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 05:17 PM
Aug 2024

Hello, folks at the DNC . All it takes is a shake of your checkbook to do this.

SidneyR

(219 posts)
71. I'd like to know EXACTLY what was said.
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 11:31 AM
Aug 2024

We should know just what sort of verbal abuse as inflicted on the Arlington official. Maybe hearing just how abusive they were would affect people a little.

Evolve Dammit

(21,803 posts)
74. Like his goons breaking into his physicians office to sieze records. They will do anything the orange mobster wants
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 01:56 PM
Aug 2024

maxsolomon

(38,945 posts)
76. What's with the slander against the cemetery staff?
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 02:24 PM
Aug 2024

"... an unnamed individual, clearly suffering from a mental health episode...?

shameless.

I'd hope that unnamed individual comes forward. maybe an older volunteer staffer?


LetMyPeopleVote

(180,789 posts)
77. TFG is using footage and photos his campaign took at Arlington National Cemetary for political purposes
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 02:39 PM
Aug 2024



And there you go. Donald Trump is using footage and photos his campaign took at Arlington National Cemetary for political purposes -- against the rules and laws that govern this hallowed ground. Arlington officials tried to stop him from politicizing the cemetery, and Trump staff physically attacked them. This whole episode is sickening and affront to all those hundreds of thousands of families who never agreed to allow their deceased loved ones to be dragged into politics.

PurgedVoter

(2,715 posts)
83. That is assault and tresspass
Wed Aug 28, 2024, 04:22 PM
Aug 2024

I hope there is a video record so this can be open and shut and the people who pushed their way in and the people who they did it for can all spend a little time in a small room thinking about their life choices.

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