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DemocratSinceBirth

(101,847 posts)
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 09:34 AM Aug 2024

****BREAKING**** Exclusive: Kamala Harris surges ahead of Donald Trump in latest poll taken after DNC

Democrat Kamala Harris has surged ahead of Republican Donald Trump, 48%-43%, a new USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll found.

The findings reflect an eight-point turnaround in the presidential race from late June, when Trump had led President Joe Biden in the survey by nearly four points.

The vice president's small lead was fueled by big shifts among some key demographic groups traditionally crucial for Democrats, including Hispanic and Black voters and young people. Among those with annual incomes of less than $20,000, in the biggest change, a three-point Trump edge over Biden in June has become a 23-point Harris advantage over Trump in August.

The poll of 1,000 likely voters, taken by landline and cell phone Sunday through Wednesday, has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points. With the election approaching, the survey is now measuring likely voters; previous polls were of registered voters.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/08/29/kamala-harris-donald-trump-suffolk-usa-today-poll-results/74984967007/

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****BREAKING**** Exclusive: Kamala Harris surges ahead of Donald Trump in latest poll taken after DNC (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2024 OP
In before the same several DU posters crap all over this news Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #1
This. Gaytano70 Aug 2024 #5
Thank you obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #14
Is it acceptable to mention sarisataka Aug 2024 #18
I dunno... my criticism of polls still stands. Happy Hoosier Aug 2024 #19
Yes. GOTV and we got this! ananda Aug 2024 #20
Exactly and well said. Tired of the constant hand wringing naysayers. FlyingPiggy Aug 2024 #34
"the survey is now measuring likely voters; previous polls were of registered voters." Important! lindysalsagal Aug 2024 #2
Likely voters are voters who have voted recently.. getagrip_already Aug 2024 #9
It also doesn't count the scads of newly registered young women obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #15
and young men. 40M Gen Z are eligible to vote this election. Majority lean left. The yough GOTV is going strong & they onetexan Aug 2024 #27
"Landline" LOL RedSpartan Aug 2024 #3
Several of my friends have no landline. Norbert Aug 2024 #6
I have no landline and I don't answer unknown callers central scrutinizer Aug 2024 #11
If the caller ID indicated that it was a political poll Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #25
I am an old boomer, and I do not answer my cell phone to any number not niyad Aug 2024 #29
Needed this after disappointing Emerson polls kansasobama Aug 2024 #4
lol they weren't disappointing obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #16
I get so many polling questions that I find it difficult to know "on the fly" which ones are reliable. 33taw Aug 2024 #7
This is one of the highest rated pollsters on 538 Johnny2X2X Aug 2024 #8
So one point above the margin of error is a surge? mucifer Aug 2024 #10
The surge is the movement from the previous poll, which is significant Fiendish Thingy Aug 2024 #12
I thought the definition of MOE was that any lead greater than the MOE is considered to be statistically significant. TheRickles Aug 2024 #32
MOE applies to the results for each candidate, not the margin between them Fiendish Thingy Aug 2024 #33
Got it - thanks! TheRickles Aug 2024 #35
Seriously? Yes, it is a surge obamanut2012 Aug 2024 #17
Sadly so Bucky Aug 2024 #22
Yes. Anything else I can help you with? dchill Aug 2024 #24
Probably underestimates the surge in registrations for Harris in battleground states. yellowcanine Aug 2024 #13
5% is good... but still disappointing Bucky Aug 2024 #21
So let me get this straight. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2024 #23
Great news, but TAKE NOTHING FOR GRANTED Wednesdays Aug 2024 #26
Overcome Wih Kamala czarjak Aug 2024 #28
Good news but there are still a lot of undecideds underpants Aug 2024 #30
Shhhhh ffr Aug 2024 #31
Nice! And even better, Suffolk is rated 2.9 of 3 by 538 (nt) pat_k Aug 2024 #36

Johnny2X2X

(24,205 posts)
1. In before the same several DU posters crap all over this news
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 09:37 AM
Aug 2024

She's ahead and her momentum is still going strong. It's OK to say that while at the same time acknowledging there's a long way to go and we have to work harder than ever still.

sarisataka

(22,694 posts)
18. Is it acceptable to mention
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 11:06 AM
Aug 2024

the double standards regarding polls if we don't criticize the polls themselves?

Happy Hoosier

(9,533 posts)
19. I dunno... my criticism of polls still stands.
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 11:14 AM
Aug 2024

I think this poll probably underestimates her support. I'm happy to see it report a lead, but I think it probably underestimates her support by a couple points.

lindysalsagal

(22,905 posts)
2. "the survey is now measuring likely voters; previous polls were of registered voters." Important!
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 09:40 AM
Aug 2024

But I still think they're under-polling women, who will be voting in droves. They're using sample sizes from 2020 and 2016.

getagrip_already

(17,802 posts)
9. Likely voters are voters who have voted recently..
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 09:53 AM
Aug 2024

So lv polls wont poll younger voters or those who havent voted recently.

Both of those could cause a large under count in this election.

A lot of roe voters, democracy voters, and anti govt intrusion voters may come out of voting retirement for this election.

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
27. and young men. 40M Gen Z are eligible to vote this election. Majority lean left. The yough GOTV is going strong & they
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 11:45 AM
Aug 2024

w deliver for Harris Walz, i'm confident of it.

RedSpartan

(1,766 posts)
3. "Landline" LOL
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 09:40 AM
Aug 2024

Yes, and cell phone, too, but no one Gen X or younger answers those for an unknown number.

I suspect the spread is even bigger toward Harris.

Norbert

(7,762 posts)
6. Several of my friends have no landline.
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 09:49 AM
Aug 2024

I am hoping this is like when Herbert Hoover was leading FDR IN 1932 and polling by telephone backed them up. Many households back then didn't have phones or couldn't afford them.

central scrutinizer

(12,654 posts)
11. I have no landline and I don't answer unknown callers
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 10:22 AM
Aug 2024

And I’m a boomer. Maybe I should rethink this in case I am being polled

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
25. If the caller ID indicated that it was a political poll
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 11:44 AM
Aug 2024

... Then I would consider taking a chance and answering the line.

niyad

(132,430 posts)
29. I am an old boomer, and I do not answer my cell phone to any number not
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 11:54 AM
Aug 2024

in my contact list (that is what voicemail is for!), nor do I have a land line. I blessed the day caller ID became available on landline phones, made ignoring people even more fun.

33taw

(3,340 posts)
7. I get so many polling questions that I find it difficult to know "on the fly" which ones are reliable.
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 09:49 AM
Aug 2024

Does anyone know of a link with reliable polling companies?

Fiendish Thingy

(23,219 posts)
12. The surge is the movement from the previous poll, which is significant
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 10:30 AM
Aug 2024

But you are right to question the lead in the context of the MOE.

For a lead to be statistically significant, in a two candidate race, it must be double the MOE.

TheRickles

(3,381 posts)
32. I thought the definition of MOE was that any lead greater than the MOE is considered to be statistically significant.
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 12:06 PM
Aug 2024

I've never heard of MOEx2 being the criterion, but I'm willing to learn.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,219 posts)
33. MOE applies to the results for each candidate, not the margin between them
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 12:11 PM
Aug 2024

So Harris 48, Trump 43 with a MOE of +/-3.1 for each candidate could range from

Harris 51.1, Trump 39.9 to
Trump 46.1, Harris 44.9

And that’s assuming the sample was a true representation of the actual electorate that shows up to vote in November.

That’s why, in a two candidate race, a candidate’s lead must be more than twice the MOE to be statistically significant.

Bucky

(55,334 posts)
22. Sadly so
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 11:41 AM
Aug 2024

We have a lot of work to do.

Winning the election is job #1. Job#2 is ending Trumpism. This con artist and his crew's hated of democracy needs to be embarrassed out of the Republican Party. Otherwise the cancer will come back.

yellowcanine

(36,788 posts)
13. Probably underestimates the surge in registrations for Harris in battleground states.
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 10:33 AM
Aug 2024

So all in all, a most satisfactory result for now.

NoMoreRepugs

(12,075 posts)
23. So let me get this straight.
Thu Aug 29, 2024, 11:42 AM
Aug 2024

Increase in women voters for Harris vs the SlobFather.
Increase in Black and Hispanic voters.
Large increase in new voter registrations.
Huge shift among low income voters.
Nonstop stories of disenchanted Republican voters.
The RoeVember phenomenon.

Somehow this translates into only a 7-8% swing??

Riiiiiggggghhhhhttttttt….

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