Let me make this pellucidly clear - Arlington was the moment

[malaise]

- the camel’s back is broken.
It is coming to a grand national crescendo. The vast majority of Americans are finished with the CONvicted felon

Down he goes.we will soon be popping corks.

[Skittles]

1. I wondered if there would ever be a breaking point

Trump has long offended me as a veteran and as a decent human being.

[malaise]

3. This is it

and the bone spurs don’t help.

I want the photo of him grinning with the thumbs up spread everywhere

[NJCher]

98. Maybe we can start a museum

Called the Museum of Inappropriate Behavior. This will be our stellar starting exhibit.

[malaise]

101. Great idea

Rec😀

[calimary]

137. Dear God, I hope so, malaise!

I sure do hope so. I keep reminding myself that NOTHING lasts forever. Not even the donald. But SHEESH it’s taking its time.

[malaise]

140. Let's see how the Sunday shows cover it

This is it

[2naSalit]

18. I have been too.

I wore federal uniforms, though not military myself, several in my family are/were, my parents are buried in national cemeteries. I have visited several, including one in England. His even being there is a great offense.

From what I have seen and heard in the last couple days from military folks I talk to and civil servants... they can't accept him for these offenses and will not vote for him, period. Whether they go with Harris or a 3rd party or just stay home, they won't be voting for the orange ogre. I saw Rick Wilson's response and it was something I didn't expect from him but it makes the point.

[malaise]

21. My army vet nephew has many friends who are vets

Even the ReTHUGs among them have had enough this time

[2naSalit]

31. Indeed...

The military members, the current, are rumpsters and they are not happy with this at all.

[AZ8theist]

67. Sadly, most will still vote for the treasonous pig.

[2naSalit]

87. I wouldn't bet on that.

[B.See]

82. Ditto... as the son

of a career military veteran who'd served through three wars.

[SheltieLover]

2. From your keyboard to karma's ears, Malise!

I thought the same thing many times and hasn't happened yet... I sure hope you are right!

[BlueKota]

17. Same

I so badly hope it's true, but every time people say he's finished he pops back up like a vampire crawling out of his coffin at night. I am cautious about letting my hopes get dashed again.

[spooky3]

37. Sadly, you and SheltieLover are right. Nt

[OLDMDDEM]

4. Music to my ears! Thank you.

[Klarkashton]

5. This one came out of the blue. I have to believe

There is going to be more horrible events yet to come in the next two months, it's inevitable.

The debate for example.

[blue neen]

13. Agreed.

Trump knows he could lose this time. He will ratchet up his hateful words and behavior. He's desperate.

[orthoclad]

6. But why did the US Army cop out

and lay the responsibility for charges on a lone low-level staffer?
Trump attacked the US Army, and they chickened out.
We haven't hit bottom yet, I think.

[Lulu KC]

66. The more I read about it, it might be two separate things

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There's the assault of the staffer, and there are other laws that were broken. I am looking to House/Senate committees to take this further.

[orthoclad]

85. You think assault isn't breaking the law?

Trump ASSAULTED THE US ARMY, in the person of a duly-assigned staffer.

I guess infantry should only respond when personally attacked, and only to the particular attacker. Until Mike Johnson says it's ok.

[Lulu KC]

94. Hold on for a minute, please

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Yes, I am fully aware that assault is breaking the law. Not only is it obvious and a well-known fact, it has also been discussed at length on this and so many other threads about the day at Arlington. I am hearing many people say, "Well, she won't press charges so that's it. The Army can't or won't do anything." I am seeing people say the Army copped out, as you did. I am also reading people like Heather Cox Richardson who are explaining how unusual and significant it is that the Army actually put out a statement. And through all the discussion of the assault, I am also curious about the consequences of all the other things those bozos did wrong at Arlington and about Arlington after the day's events were over. They're not done yet.

Before we leave the assault, with the protection of her identity, I don't even know if she's a civilian or a soldier--do you? I'm curious. The Cemetery does hire civilians, though to be a security guard you must be a veteran. If she is a civilian, they may have protocols for "employees" that differ from an enlisted person. I do not know. I will be watching. We'll see what happens. Also, it is not unusual for a woman who has been a victim of physical abuse to be accused of having "mental health issues." How many women don't press charges for all kinds of physical and mental abuse? Yes, I am aware that assault is breaking the law, and also aware of what it is like for a woman to press charges. Very aware.

I am trying to learn which other laws (and not just rules) apply specifically to Arlington National Cemetery and also to other federal and military properties.

When I am reading articles about this, here and elsewhere, I am seeing 1. the assault 2. use of photos in political campaigns 3. having campaign events at Arlington 4. Taking photos of gravesites of veterans whose survivors have not given permission 5. various forms of using all these photos. I'm sure there's more since I last scanned the news. Some of these activities break rules, some break laws that are specific to Arlington and/or other federal and/or military facilities.

All of this is starting to be combined into one blobby blur of description. The reporting is getting murky; the discussions are murkier. All media wants to cover it and everyone's trying to figure it out. (Except for the people who think they know everything. I try not to fall into that trap.)

I spent more time than I should have this afternoon reading a very long discussion between attorneys who are trying to determine exactly what laws DT and his gang broke. They are not clear yet, either. It is a topic of debate. It's kind of like this, but it's kind of like that, etc. They're having a lot of fun with it but for as long as I could pay attention, they just weren't sure.

Then there is the angle of depending on which law was broken, who would be responsible for handling the breaking of the law. Which authority? Department of Defense? Commander in Chief? Civil authorities?

I am watching to see who is picking what up. I know that at least one Senate committee that's involved with the armed forces is discussing it, and the last thing I saw (several hours ago) said that a House committee is also exploring it. I'm sure more has happened since I last scanned the news.

I will be standing by to see what happens next. Keeping it in the public eye, as messy as it gets, is critical. This event had things in it to offend so many different types of people, all of whom happen to be critical blocs of voters. I don't think it will go away as quickly as so many events have.

[FakeNoose]

104. Why haven't we been told the names of the staffers involved in this?

The press has outed (already doxxed) the name of the woman soldier who was following orders and doing her job. But there's been no mention of who are the offending staffers who did the yelling and pushing. Who broke the law, assaulted the soldier, and ignored the restrictions? Someone needs to be held accountable, and if the staff won't come forward then it guess it has to be Chump himself.

[Lulu KC]

118. Oh, I hadn't seen her identity

or that she is a soldier. Interesting.

[FakeNoose]

123. I was talking about the Arlington National Cemetery guard who was assaulted

She was trying to prevent Chump and the unnamed staffers from entering the property and taking photographs for political purposes. It was clearly against the law for them to even be there. The soldier has now been named (doxxed) on social media and several krazy-kult MAGAs are threatening her. She was doing her job and following orders! Why isn't her commanding officer sticking up for her?

Meanwhile the Chump staffers who caused all this trouble are getting off scot-free.

[Lulu KC]

128. Yes--I know about her

But I did not know she'd been identified as a soldier and not a civilian employee. I don't get on social media where any identities are revealed, even of users (unless by choice), so I'd totally missed that she was doxxed. There's so much info out there!

[NJCher]

111. Complex situation

Thanks for sharing the results of your inquiry. You’ll keep us updated, I hope.

[Lulu KC]

119. More is emerging

While I was away from my computer for a few hours yesterday, several people posted pretty thorough articles that answered some of the questions I have and/or acknowledged that this is indeed a complex subject. Now I've taken to doing a DU search of "Arlington" to see the information others have found because it's happening pretty quickly.

p.s. Thank you!

[orthoclad]

135. Simply put, the US Army is afraid of Trump and chickened out.

[AKwannabe]

113. The low level staffer is a female

Afraid of tRumps crazy ass followers and that person made the decision to not press charges. That is a personal decision. Even for a low level female staffer.

You get my point right?

[FakeNoose]

132. No, she's a soldier following orders

Her commanding officer needs to come forward. No soldier stands alone in the situation like this.

It's not her choice to press charges anyway. The Army or the Marine Corps need to follow through on this.

[orthoclad]

134. No I don't

the Trump staffer attacked the US Army.
The chain of command should respond. Not the staffer.

[AKwannabe]

138. Ya'll

In case you missed it.

EVERYTHING that has been reported
Is that SHE did not press charges
If
Army was in charge of it all then THEY shoulda done right by HER/THEM/THEY
But didn’t. DIDN'T

Keep on keepin on ok…

[AKwannabe]

139. K...

Soldier or staffer

Youins men should prolly stay outta it.
This btwn her and stupid.

Just sayin

[TheProle]

7. If I had a nickel for every pronouncement that Trump was finished

I'd be as rich as Trump claims to be.

I mean, ride the Arlington thing as far as it'll go. But pretending there is a bottom to this guy (and that his sycophants would even recognize it if he ever reached it), is pretty much folly.

He needs to beaten again, and beaten badly, at the polls.

[pnwest]

14. Every time we think he's found his bottom...

…we find out there’s a basement

[DeeDeeNY]

40. And after that, many sub-basements

[B.See]

83. No low TOO low for them. They HAVE no bottom.

[consider_this]

95. time for a down escalator

[Carlitos Brigante]

8. No, it's not. This will be forgotten in a week, week 1/2. While the same stooges in your TV screen will move on

to more important shit. Like if Harris said she was flipping burgers at McDonald's but it turns out she was working the register. Or the Time Tim Walz said John Deere when it turns out it was a Caterpillar tractor.

[Xavier Breath]

52. Thank you.

I wish I had a dollar for every time someone here buried this guy. This won't make any more of a difference than any of the other horrendous, despicable, nearly-unspeakable things he's done the past nine years. This guy's a Timex watch on the Energizer Bunny.

[yourout]

9. I hope this also ends Vances miserable political...

Existence as well.

[malaise]

11. Shady Vance will soon be

Sarah who?😀

[mobeau69]

51. He has four years left in the Senate.

[democrattotheend]

10. I doubt it

If the things he said about veterans didn't disqualify him in 2016, they won't lose him any more votes now. His flip flops on abortion, however, seem to be pissing off the far right that already was squeamish about voting for him. Here's hoping that issue becomes their Gaza (while not helping him by taking the issue off the table for swing voters who thought he handled the economy better but were voting Dem because of reproductive rights).

[malaise]

12. He laughed and gave a thumbs up at their graves while violating the rules

For a photo op.
This one is simple.

[RussellCattle]

30. I wonder too, but hope that the second hand reports of his comments in the past are one thing, but.....

……video of him and his entourage in Arlington, grinning like idiots for the camera will prove be quite another thing.

[usonian]

15. I've been waiting for the Willie Horton moment. This is it, folks.

Trump was not at the Capitol on Jan 6, mugging for the cameras thumbs-up. He chickened out and watched TV instead of his promised "march to the Capitol."



Trump was not at the gallows to knock the trap door out from Mike Pence. 🐓🐓🐓🐓🐓🐓🐓🐓



Trump was not at the war memorial in France with thumbs up.
🥖 Baguettes 🥖 are unpopular with Maguettes.
And it was RAINING. Sacre Bleu!



And so on.

This time, he decided to step over and dishonor veterans, in the most ultra-weasel way.

It's a wonder he didn't take a leak on their graves. Only Pampers prevented that.

He probably has done worse things (in public) in the past, but this was the most blatant.

So much so that even "bothsider" morally neutered people had to call bullshit on his villany.



Many of them, anyway.

And by staging a photo extravaganza in a cemetery, he asked the universe to speed him to one of his own.

[Zoomie1986]

73. That gallows was never going to be used as such

Anyone with even a rudimentary familiarity with carpentry can see that it wouldn't do the job.

My grandfather was apprenticed to the carpenter who had the contract to build gallows in their Wild West town back in the day. Grands never built an official gallows, because hanging went out of style by the time he was an adult. However, I do know that both his journeyman trainer and he himself would have laughed at that pathetic amateur-hour attempt at a gallows.

[usonian]

75. Of course.

I am sure that it was there for some symbolic necktie photos and threats. Gruesome enough.

Growing up, we were told that a neighbor down the street hung some Nazis after WWII. I never looked up the Army MOS for that, if there was one.

I joined the Coast Guard to throw people rescue ropes. I am sufficiently wild so as not to hit them and knock them out, but the opportunity never arose.

Pardon the hyperbole. I just got my artistic license.

[Arne]

120. Pictures I have not seen before. Good job finding them.

[WarGamer]

16. No one is CHANGING their vote because of this

[BattleRow]

25. Maybe not..but

some may choose to not vote at all because of this egregious and opportunistic insult.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

26. You're wrong,

several R truckers I know, who are vets themselves, have said that he stepped over the line and now they're either staying home or voting for the Harris/Walz ticket in Nov.

Don't underestimate how much this has pissed off vets like myself, there is a deep anger with us vets because of the horrific stunt he pulled at Arlington National Cemetary, so don't say that this will not change one vote, you couldn't be more wrong.

[Permanut]

33. Amen.

[WarGamer]

36. All right... we'll see.

I always respect a veteran.

Like my grandfather who was on a Light Cruiser in WW2, island hopping in 1944-45, bombarding defensive positions and fighting off kamikazes...

And my son loading up B1b's to fight the war on terror...

I didn't have a reason to join in the peaceful 80's...

[MarineCombatEngineer]

44. Thank you.

My father, god rest his soul, was one of the original Navy Seabees building and fighting his way across the Pacific also.

From listening and talking to my trucker friends, vets and non vets, this has really struck a sour chord with them, the willful blunder of Been A Dick and his entourage at Arlington will reverberate up to and including Nov 5.

I just can't fathom why that idiot would do such a thing, especially in light of the blocks of voters he's losing, he really can't afford to lose the vet vote.

[WarGamer]

46. all true...

[BattleRow]

47. Dad was

a Seabee also. RIP.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

49. Way cool.

My dad was disappointed that I joined the Marines instead of following in his footsteps, but in the end, it all worked out good, we worked with the Seabees quite often during my career.

I do love the Seabee motto:
We Build
We Fight
We Party All Night.
Can Do.

[ShazzieB]

59. Thanks for giving us the vet perspective on this.

I suspect it may be hard for some of us who aren't vets to fully comprehend just how offensive this is to folks like you. I had no idea of the enormity of this myself, when it first hit the fan, but I've been getting quite an education in the last few days from reading the news stories and comments from people like yourself.

I hope with all my heart that this will the major nail in Trump’s political coffin that some are predicting.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

60. Thank you.

i don't think Been A Dick realizes just how bad he fucked up, but he's going to learn on Nov. 5th when we send him to the boneyard of history.

[malaise]

61. THIS

All to look presidential for a photo op

[llmart]

103. Nothing he has ever done...

and no picture of him has EVER made him look presidential. However, we all know people who are so poorly informed/uneducated/dimwits who actually think this jerk is a "strong leader".

My brain hurts trying to understand how so many in our country can believe he's fit to be anything other than the person who shovels road kill off our streets. In fact, wouldn't that be fitting punishment for some of his lower level crimes if a judge ordered him to do community service and that was the job they gave him?

[Arne]

122. Very fitting because road kill usually has Maggots.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

99. It was the most blatant demonstration of how he regards the sacrifices of soldiers and familes to be worth nothing.

People and their suffering mean nothing to traitortrump except what he can extract for himself. Telling that doesn't reach as many people as him demonstrating it.

[RandomNumbers]

107. It will certainly move the needle for vets who are not hard-core MAGA. Not sure how many there are,

that aren't already intending to vote for Harris-Walz.

Also it may not move the needle far enough. There are reasons why they are not already Dems. For any that are just reflexively R and haven't yet understood how evil TSF is, yeah this could do it. It just boggles my mind that there could be very many left like that. And if they solely get news from right-wing sources, how much do they even know about this event?

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

130. That's one of the huge issues. Many MAGATs

are living in a entirely different universe than us because they believe only Fox tells them the truth. The fact they seem to not know that some of the major Fox hosts admitted to privately hating Dolt 45 goes a ways to showing how clueless they are.

So many Rs, for decades more, have been voting based on believing countless lies.

[Aristus]

136. Yours is a very encouraging post, MCE.

Thanks, I needed that.

[Lulu KC]

68. Not sure about that

I am hearing that veterans and active service people are over it. They may not all run to Harris/Walz, but he may lose their votes.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

129. Which, once again, proves that his supporters are a cult.

Even the ones voting out of pure greed & the BS belief that "taxation is theft" are in a cult, but a different cult.

Nothing will change their vote. Because, as bad as Trump will ever prove himself to be, he they have been brainwashed to believe that Dems are worse. I mean, aside come on, many even believe Dems--as a group--are actual demons & child traffickers, and etc.

The Greed Group doesn't gaf about anything but money & power.

So, yeah, the idea that any of his true-believer supporters are abandoning him seems far-fetched.

Still, there are some who were saying in polls a few weeks ago that they'd vote for him who were not true believers. They may now be in play.

[Evolve Dammit]

19. This will not move the needle in MSM. Vets yes

[Evolve Dammit]

20. I hope

[peggysue2]

22. There does seem to be a doom-loop for Agent Orange

They've been floundering ever since Kamala Harris and Tim Walz came on the scene with the atmosphere and stories getting worse and worse. All of it is fueled by Trump and Vance's own missteps and craziness.Trump's been flip-flopping daily and Vance has become a robotic albatross.

It reminds me of the constant barrage Hillary Clinton was under in the final stretch of the 2016 election although that was the product of the Far-Right's fiction machine--Pizzagate, she's dying of some undisclosed disease, she's the Queen of a pedophile cult, yada, yada.

What's going on now? Completely Don the Con's fault and his flailing campaign.

Wonderful to think Donald Trump is tasting his own vile medicine. Delicious!

[Sky Jewels]

23. You'd think that his attempt to violently overthrow the government,

steal an election, end democracy and install himself as dictator would have done the trick…

[malaise]

24. He will never enter the WH again

Take that to the bank

[Joinfortmill]

74. Yup. He's done.

[SomedayKindaLove]

27. Is this the first US Presidential campaign

To actually die in a cemetery?

[malaise]

110. Nicely played

😀

[BoRaGard]

28. In other words, the day the Elephant Diaper burst

and the whole world got a stinking load of the G.O.P. disdain and disrespect for the men and women who defend America.

[dameatball]

29. And yet, we have some DUers insisting there are too many posts about it. Fact is, it is a big deal.

Maybe one of those huge gaffes where the orange doofus feels compelled to something even more repulsive to change the narrative. i hope not.

[ananda]

32. Today at bridge, only one person I know is voting for Trump.

There are quite a few rich Republicans there who want
nothing to do with Trump any more.

This may be a good sign.

And it's Texas.

[malaise]

34. Great news

Rec

[keithbvadu2]

35. Disgracing Arlington, the family, those who made the ultimate sacrifice. Now blaming the family.

Disgracing Arlington, the family, those who made the ultimate sacrifice. Now blaming the family.

[Lulu KC]

71. And the gravestone on the left

was not authorized to be photographed. I wish I could share where I read it but my head is swirling with coverage of this! It is a very sad story of a veteran who committed suicide. His family is deeply offended.

[The Third Doctor]

38. I doubt it. The fact that he is the gop nominee

At all means that he's mostly untouchable. The 34 felonies, insurrection, rape liability didn't sink him.

[J_William_Ryan]

39. "- the camel's back is broken."

Disagree.

If mocking a disabled reporter, bragging about sexually assaulting women, and doing nothing for more than two hours while a rightwing mob destroyed the Capitol Building didn’t do it, then this likewise won’t dissuade members of the Trump Cult and others on the blind partisan right.

Trump remains a threat – his winning this election remains a real possibility.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

100. It's cumulative.

[Eyeball_Kid]

133. It's the old story: elections are won at the margins.

There doesn't need to be a massive migration away from Trump, although that would be deviously satisfying. We should be looking for a small percentage of people wanting to escape from the Trump Misery Bus. A 2-5% shift might end up as a landslide. The MAGA movement is on its last legs right now. They'll all be back in the garage when they watch Trump lose big.

[BigDemVoter]

41. I have had a long week with very little time to read the news or watch TV. . .

Is it really getting that serious? I'm so used to hearing things like he'll finally have to face the music only to see him skate through unbelievable things he says/does. . . . Is this one really different, you think? Your optimism IS infectious!

[Warpy]

42. Media honchos seem shocked that so many peoiple care

about that clueless oaf using dead soldiers as props in a stupid campaign ad. That rictus with the thumbs up (translation: look at all these dead losers and suckers and I'm still here, ha ha ha) certainly did him no good.

No dictator in history has managed to gain and keep power without the consent of the military. That's one of the grim lessons of history and he's blown that completely.

[BattleRow]

58. I have never seen any photo taken,anywhere

of people standing next to any grave with thumbs up and smiling....much less in the sacrosanct,hallowed ground of Arlington.

And the family with him??

I have posted this several times,but I will implore people again to watch the film,"Seven Days in May"..a classic political coupe thriller.

An older film,but the theme of the enemy within is timeless...and timely.

[keithbvadu2]

78. "...without the consent of the military" - Ironic that you should mention that.

Republicans/right wing want to take control of our military.

Understanding What PROJECT 2025 Means For Our Military

[relayerbob]

43. Oh, he's going to go lower

It's going to get worse. It won't matter if the only person who votes for him is him.

[brewens]

45. Imagine if he had just done the photo op at the big sign at the entrance? The message of dignity and respect with him

in the pic would gag a maggot, but he wouldn't be getting anywhere as much crap about it. He may have even made some hay with a few people by criticizing Harris for not being there.

I know that is what I would have told him to do if he absolutely had to go there.

[11 Bravo]

48. FUCK! I hope you're correct. But the flabby bastard has survived "Grab 'em by the pussy" ...

insults to Gold Star families, insane babbling nonsense about Revolutionary War airports, killer boat batteries, sharks, cancer-causing windmills, Hannibal Lecter, bleach injections, and more.
Cultists can't be swayed.
So we need to VOTE!
(And Jill Stein, Cornell West, and every other no hope attention whore needs to fuck ALL the way off.)

[SheltieLover]

56. Yes & publicly calling for pootin's help,to find "her emails!"

[GiqueCee]

50. Trump is a pitiful clown, a tasteless sideshow...

... to distract the unwary from more closely monitoring the covert actions of the malicious swine that still support him. You know, the incels with high-powered weapons and bad attitudes. J6 was just a test run. These psychopaths don't care if Trump wins or loses, their bible is Project 2025.
There will be blood.

[Tarzanrock]

53. It is a direct slap in the face to the decency and dignity of every American living and deceased.

The Turd's egregious behavior at the Arlington National Cemetary is a slap in the face to every American family who ever had a family member serve in the Nation's military. It is a slap in the face to every spouse of every service person and to every child and every grandchild of every service person. It is a direct slap in the face to the decency and dignity of every American living and deceased. I've been to many military funerals for my Father and for my Uncles who all honorably served in WW II. They then fought those monstrously evil Fascists so that their children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren would never have to fight Fascism again. There is something real special about the formality and the pomp and circumstance of military funerals where the Nation honors its service people. The deceased's casket is draped with the American flag. There is a military honor guard present in dress uniform commanded by an Officer. Taps are played with a bugler and there is a gun volley fired by the armed military honor guard. The American flag is removed from the casket and it is properly folded into its triangular pattern. The officer in charge then presents that folded flag to the deceased's family. When the officer presents the flag to the family, he tells the family something like this: "On behalf of the President of the United States and the United States Army, this flag is presented, on behalf of a grateful nation, as a token of appreciation for your loved one's honorable and faithful service."

[Blue Owl]

54. Lock that fat ass up

[bucolic_frolic]

55. Yes because this mirrors political, legitimacy, and security issues of the nation State

Cheato in office and out has made a mockery of the country and its values as expressed in 225 years of law, policy, war. He's been subtle at times but it's like throwing contempt and satire at us, weekly.

[agingdem]

57. and after last night's CNN interview I would say

the Trump funeral pyre should include CNN and Dana Bash..if nothing else, Bash confirmed the slow death of CNN as she regurgitated Trump's talking points pathetically disguised as "legitimate" questions..

[malaise]

65. The questions were pathetic

The media is sick

[Snoopy 7]

62. Don't forget

It’s not just trump that we need to get rid of. The corporate fat cats and corporate media needs to be taken out too. After all they are the ones paying for and pushing project 2025.

[Wednesdays]

63. Well, I agree he's lost the 2024 election

But he's not finished politically, not by a long shot. Mark my words: he will be running for president in 2028, even if it's from a prison cell.

[malaise]

80. He will be a washed up criminal has been

and no one will listen. He’ll find some more shit to sell to stupid people. And that’s if he doesn’t croak or stroke out😀

[WinstonSmith4740]

64. I think you're right.

His brain-dead cult doesn't care what he says, but this should make an awful lot of people finally say "enough".

[CanonRay]

69. I said that the minute I heard about it.

They stepped on the 3rd rail. I was praying the story wouldn't get buried.

[malaise]

84. You were right

This sordid circus is over

[Joinfortmill]

70. Yup.

[TheCowsCameHome]

72. I hope you are right.

Maybe this is the moment we've been waiting for.

[PatrickforB]

76. Yes, this desecration of sacred graves seems to still be blowing up.

Let us all hope you are quite right. Hell, the straw that broke the camel's back for me was clear back in 2016 when the Access Hollywood tape came out followed by the Howard Stern interview. I knew then the guy was a total dirtbag. And boy, has he proven it since.

Let's all hope for a real true-blue tsunami. If Kamala gets the House and Senate, we can really make some progress.

[BattleRow]

77. Would it be possible

for a petition to be signed by families of loved ones buried at Arlington,publicly denouncing Trump's dishonor and callous behavior?

Perhaps even a lawsuit against him?

[malaise]

81. Great idea

Start a thread

[BattleRow]

86. Thank you

But,I'm less than savvy about such things.

However,you or others are more than welcome to do so.

[dchill]

79. Still, we must not underestimate the depravity of his cult...

...or his deeply craven party.

[B.See]

88. Exactly. Clearly there are many

within his cult following who will remain unmoved in their DEVOTION and adoration of Trump, no matter WHAT he says or does, to us, to America, even to THEM.

In part because many have become so thoroughly indoctrinated and brainwashed, that they reject OUTRIGHT, any news, information, or FACTS, that are contrary to what they are told to believe, or want to believe.

It would be a GRAVE mistake to think Trump is "done."

[malaise]

89. Ridicule and expose the fool and finish him off

That is all

[B.See]

90. absolutely.

[dchill]

92. Without doubt!

[KentuckyWoman]

91. I wish, but really doubt it.

I have a firm belief that 48% of voters will go for him no matter what. There is no low he could go to that loses their support. I hope I am wrong.

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

93. i am not so sure

[niyad]

96. Dear Goddess, may it be so! However, it seems that he has the longevity

of a hostess twinkie (the old jokes being that there was no expiration date on a twinkie package, and that the only things left after a nuclear war would be twinkies, cockroaches, and carp).

[cilla4progress]

97. At last

HAVE YOU NO DECENCY???

A big tsf banner down the road from us was taken down.

And - he never had any. Decency.

So frustrating, as we have all known from the beginning!

[RedSpartan]

102. Strongly disagree.

MAGA is a cult, and the first rule of a cult is that the leader is infallible and never wrong. I have Republican acquaintances who are saying it’s no big deal and the press is just hyping it up to have something to report on. They will never abandon him and will happily follow him to the grave.

[malaise]

105. Check the lifespan of cults in the USA n/t

[Easterncedar]

124. Mormons, Scientology

[Tree Lady]

108. Agree unfortunately have conservative

neighbors who put up huge trump vance flag after it happened. Large block lettering. I winced as I walked by.

They are religious, seniors who seem nice but this is yucky. They live on next street over. No one of 6 houses on my court has anything. We all know who is right and left. (3 of each) I bought a shirt but no sign or flag wanting my court to stay this way.

[D23MIURG23]

112. Cults get that way by shedding the people who aren't fully committed.

A lot of cults get smaller and crazier over time because people who join find reasons to leave as the cult leader gets worse and worse. You are 100% right that not everyone is going to leave the Trump cult over this. But if this reduces his support by a couple percent, that's enough. We just need to beat him by enough that he can't steal the election.

If we can do that, then Republicans can worry about how they are going to get their people to support anyone else, or whether they are going to get 83 year old demented orange man running for president from prison in 4 years. Couldn't have happened to a nicer party.

[RandomNumbers]

106. NO POPPING CORKS until at least late on Nov 5th!!!

I will be surprised if it is decided that early, but anyway that is the EARLIEST we would be able to start popping any corks!

I have become so disappointed in my country over the past 10 years.

[malaise]

116. Never forget

You and many others stopped him in 2020/21 .

[D23MIURG23]

109. I sure hope so. I thought he was done when the access hollywood tape got leaked.

This scandal does seem like it has legs, though.

[oldmanlynn]

114. All the Maga supporters will still be there

Remember all the Maga supporters that are supporting Trump and wanting this nastiness are still out there. When another guy like Trump comes along it’ll be just the same old thing.

This wont change until fox news and the like are prevented from spreading misinformation and stoking hatred.

Hopefully trump getting thumped will push some into closets.

When Harris wins we have to enact legislation that safeguards our democracy better.

[spanone]

115. K&R

[kimbutgar]

117. I'm keeping my fingers crossed this happens

Unfortunately there are a lot of magaloons who will not be affected by this national disgrace to our military.

[Old Crank]

121. We can only hope

I hope a lot of military turn on the GOP. They just use our military for props.

[malthaussen]

125. Don't count your chickens before they're running around in the yard.

I suppose it is human nature to constantly try to predict the future. I prefer to wait on events.

-- Mal

[Martin68]

126. Yup, a cemetery too far. The plan was to highlight the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan. Instead it highlighted

Trump's total lack of humanity.

[malaise]

127. Precisely

Rec

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

131. I'm more cynical. His supporters are a cult.

I don't think facts are involved for cult members.

Also, is Fixed Noise even revealing this latest fuck up to the loyal clan?

I fervently wish your analysis were correct, but I just can't see how the news even gets to the Mass-o-MAGAts!

And once it does, they have to believe it and get past their conveniently-imparted brainwashing--that no matter what Rs do, Dems are far, far worse. I've been seeing a lot of RW claims of Dems being actual demons lately.

Then again, maybe that's maybe that's a sign they're on the breaking point!

Again, I truly hope you're right, but every time I've thought Pissolini had finally gone too far, I've been proven wrong!